[00:00] <tomreyn> keep in mind you could also go directly to 18.04 then
[00:00] <mouses> It's usually the 'best bet' in my experience, but I have not played with recent upgrade options - much may have improved and I may be very ignorant of it
[00:00] <herouxma> yep, another very good point
[00:00] <herouxma> Feeling like starting a new life
[00:00] <herouxma> lol
[00:01] <herouxma> Thanks for the inputs, will go from scratch to 18.04
[00:01] <herouxma> Gnome is the default environment for 18.04? Is there any Unity legacy?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> !unity | herouxma
[00:03] <Bashing-om> herouxma: unity is still maintained in the universe repo by the community :)
[00:04] <herouxma> Sorry, I meant the Unity Launcher
[00:05] <herouxma> http://unity.ubuntu.com/ server not found
[00:06] <herouxma> Unity Homepage first link
[00:07] <Bashing-om> herouxma: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity" ? completes for me.
[00:08] <herouxma> Okay, will let go of Unity and get Gnome at work like I have on others
[00:08] <dev1ce> fsociety
[00:08] <herouxma> yes, the wiki first link in wiki failed just saying
[00:08] <herouxma> But I am good, won't install Unity as my desktop
[00:09] <herouxma> will go with Gnome, will miss rotating my desktop...but for what it really served...
[00:10] <Bashing-om> herouxma: In 18.04 there is also Wayland. YMMV but I found it smoother and faster than Gnome.
[00:11] <herouxma> oh, good to check that then...I have ran XFCE on Fedora for a while, was pretty speedy
[00:12] <Bashing-om> herouxma: I too have my preference as XFCE as my daily driver.
[00:13] <mouses> XFCE + i3 here :)
[00:14] <mouses> i3 is love, i3 is life :)
[00:14] <herouxma> I see, but Wayland isn't it a replacement of X11Free86?
[00:14] <mouses> herouxma: Wayland is a alternative to xorg
[00:14] <herouxma> I see, well, xorg is relatively stable I've found
[00:15] <herouxma> with years...I wonder if still maintained though
[00:15] <herouxma> just kidding
[00:16] <herouxma> Stable release: 1.20 / 10 May 2018; 11 months ago
[00:17] <autojack> I have a service that uses init scripts, rather than systemd unit files. if I make changes to the init script and then start the service using 'systemctl start,' systemd notices that the init script has changed and tells me I should run 'systemctl daemon-reload.' I understand what daemon-reload does, but it is not clear to me what happens if I don't run it in this situation.
[00:18] <autojack> are my systemd unit files then not picking up the changes to the init scripts? that does not seem to be the case.
[00:33] <AssociateX> Hello all
[00:34] <AssociateX> Ctrl+alt+F1 does not bring me to a VT. What is the solution?
[00:35] <Bashing-om> AssociateX: ctl+alt+F2 ? ... maybe F1 is the GUI ?
[00:35] <rfm> autojack, you need to run systemd-sysv-generator after editing the init scripts (it's normally done at boot)
[00:36] <rfm> autojack, possibly daemon-reload will run it for you, I haven't checked
[00:37] <AssociateX> @Bashing-om, ctl+alt+F2 no worky.
[00:38] <rfm> autojack, yup systemctl man page says daemon-reload will "rerun all generators"
[00:41] <Bashing-om> AssociateX: Will take one with greater skills than I to know what is not taking place :(
[00:47] <autojack> rfm: thanks! but I still don't understand what happens if I *don't* do that. as far as I can tell, the changes to the init script still get picked up. or am I wrong about that?
[00:47] <ChunkzZ> anyone around?
[00:50] <ChunkzZ> I'm trying to do an ssh tunnel: ssh -N -D 1080 ayescott66@165.227.231.75 but I'm still seeing my default ip in deluge and other apps. 127.0.0.1:8112 and 127.0.0.1:8080
[00:51] <ChunkzZ> am I doing something wrong?
[00:54] <rfm> autojack, it may depend on just what change you are making in the init script,.  Since the generated .service runs the init script to start/stop/reload if you're just chaniging, say, args on the demon command, the changes will seem to take effect
[00:56] <rfm> autojack, other changes (like dependencies or the run levels it should start/stop in, would not take effect until the generator is run
[00:57] <AssociateX> How do I access my VT?
[00:58] <autojack> rfm: thanks a lot for clarifying! in this case the service doesn't depend on any others, and I'm not changing the run level, so that explains why the changes seem to take effect on the systemd side.
[00:58] <autojack> much appreciated.
[01:01] <ChunkzZ> anyone?
[01:06] <qwebirc58543> hi
[01:08] <qwebirc58543> my wifi only works if i unplug and replug the adapter... Has anyone ever experienced this?
[01:10] <rfm> ChunkzZ, i've never used the -D forwarding, but it seems that specifying to forward port 1080 wouldn't (and shouldn't) affect any other ports so I don't see why you expected :8122 and :8080 to be affected.
[01:10] <ChunkzZ> what?
[01:11] <ChunkzZ> ssh -L 8082:www.ubuntuforums.org:80 ayescott66@165.227.231.75 and it says it cannot chdir
[01:11] <ChunkzZ> wth
[01:12] <ChunkzZ> Could not chdir to home directory /home/ayescott66: No such file or directory
[01:12] <ChunkzZ> what am I doing wronmg  rfm ?
[01:12] <ChunkzZ> wrong*
[01:16] <rfm> ChunkzZ, sounds like the user doesn't have a home directory on the remote system
[01:16] <ChunkzZ> yeah I don't
[01:17] <ChunkzZ> it's a server from a vpn provider
[01:24] <ChunkzZ> rfm, all I want is traffic to go through localhost
[01:24] <ChunkzZ> like.. through localhost to the remote ssh tunnel.
[01:25] <ChunkzZ> or is it the other way around?
[01:27] <ChunkzZ> rfm, any ideas?
[01:28] <rfm> ChunkzZ, well, ssh tunnelling will let you do that for specific ports, but it has to be able to log into the remote system, thus needs a (writable) home directory to get through login
[01:28] <ChunkzZ> no.
[01:29] <ChunkzZ> ssh -N -D8112 ayescott66@165.227.231.75 that connects after I enter my password.
[01:32] <ChunkzZ> rfm, ^
[01:33] <ChunkzZ> If I use my browser, my ip has changed to the ssh tunnel but I can't connect to localhost rfm
[01:35] <rfm> ChunkzZ, what do you mean "my ip has changed?"
[01:36] <ChunkzZ> like I say.. not the ip from my isp.. it's the IP from the tunnel.
[01:37] <rfm>  ChunkzZ what IP has changed, where, how are you observing that?  I still don't have an idea what you mean
[01:37] <ChunkzZ> rfm, my damn external ip has changed from my isp's one
[01:37] <ChunkzZ> sigh
[01:38] <ChunkzZ> googling my ip[
[01:38] <ChunkzZ> lol
[01:58] <autojack> ChunkzZ: -D creates a SOCKS proxy listening on port 1080.
[01:58] <autojack> you would need to tell your applications to then use that proxy in order to route their traffic through it.
[01:59] <autojack> or else set that as a system-wide proxy setting.
[02:11] <ChunkzZ> yeah I think I need a systemwide proxy setting but that's proving to be hard autojack
[02:11] <ChunkzZ> the tunnel is no good because sab+ won't allow to use a proxy
[02:12] <ChunkzZ> any ideas on a system wide proxy autojack ?
[02:13] <autojack> ChunkzZ: well,  you also said "it's a server from a vpn provider." are you even able to open that SSH session or not?
[02:13] <ChunkzZ> yeah I can
[02:13] <ChunkzZ> but...
[02:13] <autojack> ok.
[02:13] <ChunkzZ> the tunnel is no good.
[02:13] <autojack> I don't know offhand how to set a system wide proxy in Ubuntu. I would expect it to be in the network config/control panel.
[02:13] <autojack> I don't know what sab+ is.
[02:14] <ChunkzZ> I wish I could tunnel everything without using an app that supports proxies
[02:14] <ChunkzZ> can that be done autojack ?
[02:14] <autojack> also, if you are using a VPN, why do you also need the SSH tunnel?
[02:14] <ChunkzZ> because my isp is throttling openvpn
[02:14] <ChunkzZ> :/
[02:14] <autojack> weird.
[02:15] <ChunkzZ> can I just not tunnel everything on localhost?
[02:15] <SonOFaza> good morning. am i missing something or does the askubuntu.com website have no logout option?
[02:15] <ChunkzZ> autojack, ^
[02:15] <autojack> I don't know what you mean by that. when you use SSH -D to create a SOCKS proxy, nothing will use it until you tell it to.
[02:15] <ChunkzZ> autojack, yeah but basically, apps I use don't have a proxy setting to use it.
[02:15] <autojack> either your app needs to have a proxy setting, or you need to set the proxy to be used system-wide in the network settings.
[02:16] <autojack> yeah so, system-wide proxy.
[02:16] <ChunkzZ> damn
[02:16] <SonOFaza> autojack: ++
[02:17] <SonOFaza> so when i just close the browser tab with askubuntu.com its secure enough?
[02:17] <autojack> ChunkzZ: why "damn?" it should be 5 seconds of configuration setup.
[02:22] <ChunkzZ> socks_proxy="socks://ayescott66:passwordhere@46.23.78.25:1080/"
[02:22] <ChunkzZ> but my internet isn't working autojack
[02:22] <ChunkzZ> say bad port number
[02:23] <autojack> if you are using the SSH -D 1080 approach, you would want to set that config to just localhost:1080, no username or password.
[02:23] <autojack> and no public IP.
[02:24] <ChunkzZ> nope, I'm using: nano /etc/environment
[02:24] <ChunkzZ> so it's system wide
[02:24] <autojack> that has nothing to do with what I am saying.
[02:24] <autojack> your proxy is not listening on 46.23.78.25 and it shouldn't need a username and password. you are providing those when you open the SSH tunnel.
[02:25] <ChunkzZ> what? no ssh tunnel no more bro
[02:25] <autojack> you are confusing the shit out of me.
[02:26] <ChunkzZ> why?
[02:26] <autojack> what are you trying to do? I understood that you were trying to route your internet traffic over an SSH tunnel to your VPN provider.
[02:26] <ChunkzZ> no, I'm trying to do a system wide proxy.. the tunnel was ages ago.
[02:26] <autojack> ok sorry, when I said tunnel I meant proxy. the -D. SOCKS proxy.
[02:27] <autojack> my point stands. that proxy is going to listen on localhost, and is not going to need a username and password.
[02:27] <ChunkzZ> but it needs my user/pass.. right?
[02:27] <ChunkzZ> how else would it connect?
[02:27] <autojack> it isn't going to connect it for you. you have to run the 'ssh -D 1080 ...' command somewhere.
[02:28] <ChunkzZ> so confused
[02:28] <autojack> that is what opens the network connection to your vpn provider and creates the SOCKS proxy.
[02:28] <ChunkzZ> you've lost me brother
[02:28] <autojack> that makes two of us.
[02:29] <ChunkzZ> I'm not tunneling now. I'm trying to setup a system wide proxy.
[02:29] <autojack> ok. where is that proxy going to send traffic? to your VPN provider?
[02:29] <SonOFaza> without "ssh -D" you need an additional software that provides the proxy functionality
[02:30] <autojack> ChunkzZ: perhaps you should read the ssh man page, specifically around the -D option. it might make things clearer for you.
[02:31] <autojack> as I said earlier, the -D option creates a local SOCKS proxy, listening on the port you specify, which will route traffic through the SSH session to the network you are SSHing into.
[02:31] <autojack> that sounds like what you want.
[02:31] <autojack> once you have that SSH connection created, you then need to tell your apps, or your whole system, to route traffic through the proxy. otherwise they will ignore it.
[02:31] <linuxgecko> hey guys, trying to install 18.04.2 desktop on my laptop with a busted screen. i have an external monitor, but it's not using it exclusively. as such, it's displaying thei installed prompts on the busted screen. how do i force it to switch?
[02:32] <linuxgecko> s/installed/installer/
[02:32] <ChunkzZ> how do I tell the whole system to do that autojack ?
[02:33] <autojack> ChunkzZ: I don't mean to be rude, but have you googled for "ubuntu system wide proxy?"
[02:33] <ChunkzZ> that's defo what I want.
[02:33] <ChunkzZ> yeah I have
[02:33] <ChunkzZ> and it's broke my system
[02:33] <ChunkzZ> lol
[02:33] <ChunkzZ> curl: (5) Could not resolve proxy: ayescott66
[02:34] <autojack> yeah, so the setting you pasted used some public IP, and a username and password. that makes no sense if you are using ssh -D to start up the proxy.
[02:34] <autojack> that's why I told you to use localhost instead of the public IP, and leave out the username and password.
[02:34] <autojack> but you need to first run the 'ssh -D' in a terminal somewhere. otherwise the tunnel is not running.
[02:34] <autojack> sorry PROXY
[02:34] <autojack> WHEN I SAY TUNNEL JUST CHANGE IT TO PROXY
[02:34] <autojack> fuck's sake
[02:34] <ChunkzZ> lmao
[02:35] <autojack> anyway that's as good as I can explain it!
[02:35] <autojack> I've only done this a few thousand times over the last 20 years.
[02:35] <autojack> if I can't make it clear, well...
[02:36] <autojack> the reason it broke your internet is because your system tried to route everything over a connection that didn't exist.
[02:36] <ChunkzZ> ssh -N -D 8112 ayescott66@165.227.231.75
[02:36] <ChunkzZ> what part of that don't I need?
[02:36] <autojack> that looks good if you run it in a terminal and it successfully connects you to that remote IP.
[02:37] <ChunkzZ> yeah it's connected
[02:37] <autojack> but when you said you configured socks_proxy="socks://ayescott66:passwordhere@46.23.78.25:1080/" that looks wrong to me. you are telling your system to connect to the SOCKS proxy at this IP: 46.23.78.25
[02:37] <autojack> instead, it should be localhost.
[02:37] <autojack> because the SSH connection has the proxy listening for you on localhost.
[02:38] <autojack> and the SSH _proxy_ does not require a username and password. only your initial ssh command you already ran needed that.
[02:38] <autojack> so you can leave those out too.
[02:41] <ChunkzZ> like this? ftp_proxy=http://127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1:5050/
[02:41] <ChunkzZ> autojack, ^^
[02:42] <autojack> that looks weird to me, and it's setting an FTP proxy only instead of a SOCKS proxy.
[02:42] <autojack> so it is saying only send FTP connections through that.
[02:42] <autojack> and I don't know why it would be 127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1.
[02:43] <ChunkzZ> so what should it be?
[02:43] <autojack> based on what you pasted before (I don't know where you got that) I would do socks_proxy="socks://localhost:1080/"
[02:45] <is_null> hi all, after apt upgrade it won't boot anymore: Failed to mount /var/lib/docker, when i try manually it fails because of unknown filesystem typebtrfs, i think i let the package maintainer version of a config like grub config or something and overwrote the kernel command line where was btrfs support for stage2 or something is that possible ?
[02:47] <ChunkzZ> still showing my isp's ip autojack
[02:48] <ChunkzZ> ssh -N -D 5050 ayescott66@165.227.231.75 and socks_proxy="socks://localhost:5050/"
[02:48] <ChunkzZ> autojack, ^
[02:51] <ChunkzZ> yeah still showing my ip autojack
[02:52] <ChunkzZ> deluge is showing my ip too
[02:52] <autojack> shrug.
[02:52] <autojack> the only other thing I can say is, only new connections would pick up the settings change.
[02:52] <autojack> you might need to restart the app, or like in Chrome, open a new tab.
[02:53] <ChunkzZ> yeah I did
[02:53] <ChunkzZ> both
[02:53] <ChunkzZ> :(
[02:53] <privism> If you want to route everything it will be easier to setup a VPN server
[02:53] <privism> socks proxy depends on application support
[02:54] <ChunkzZ> socks_proxy="socks://127.0.0.1:5050/" from: nano /etc/environment
[02:54] <ChunkzZ> privism, my isp throttles openvpn so I can't.
[02:54] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://extensions.gnome.org/ # search for proxy
[02:55] <ChunkzZ> idk how you use that leftyfb
[02:55] <ChunkzZ> I downloaded it proxifier@gnome-shell-extensions.lahsivjar.v6.shell-extension.zip
[02:55] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: pick one of the extensions to let you set the system-wide proxy
[02:55] <ChunkzZ> ^
[02:56] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: are you running Ubuntu 18.04 or later with gnome?
[02:56] <ChunkzZ> no.
[02:56] <ChunkzZ> xfce and 19.04.
[02:56] <leftyfb> ok, nevermind then
[02:57] <ChunkzZ> lol
[03:07] <is_null> all my btrfs checks are fine really, it's just that btrfs unknown file system and Press Enter for maintenance
[03:08] <devslash> hi
[03:08] <devslash> i cant use my phone (samsung s10) with ubuntu
[03:09] <devslash> when i run mtp-detect i get an error Attempting to connect device(s) error returned by libusb_claim_interface() = -6LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to initialize device error returned by libusb_claim_interface() = -6LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to initialize device
[03:23] <pipegeek> So, I'm trying to migrate a VM from virtualbox to libvirt/kvm on disco
[03:24] <pipegeek> I exported to ova and used virt-v2v to import into libvirt
[03:24] <pipegeek> when I try to run it from virt-manager, I get "Error starting domain... Could not open '/home/libvirt/images/my-vm-sda' Permission denied
[03:24] <pipegeek> I've steadily relaxed the permissions on that path until out of exasperation I did chmod -R 777 /home/libvirt
[03:25] <pipegeek> and still I am seeing the same error.
[03:25] <pipegeek> Any idea what is going on here?
[03:25] <pipegeek> that path corresponds to a storage pool.
[03:26] <pipegeek> could this be an apparmor thing?
[03:32] <pipegeek> it's gotta be apparmor.
[03:38] <pipegeek> except that stopping apparmor entirely doesn't seem to solve the problem
[03:40] <is_null> pipegeek: should be in journal if apparmor ?
[03:41] <pipegeek> oh.  yes.
[03:41] <is_null> pipegeek: no, i think you need to permission for libvirt user or something like that
[03:41] <pipegeek> and so it is.  And it is definitely apparmor, though I've theoretically updated the profile for libvirt to include that path
[03:41] <pipegeek> is_null: like I said, I chmodded it all 777.  All users should have access
[03:42] <is_null> well there's also acl that would come at play indeed
[03:42] <pipegeek> I also set the acl to allow that user
[03:42] <pipegeek> and I see apparmor="DENIED" for that path repeatedly in journalctl.
[03:43] <pipegeek> doing aa-teardown unfortunately just causes virt-manager to complain that it can't query apparmor profiles
[03:43] <pipegeek> doing systemctl restart apparmor fixed that, but then apparmor started blocking access agian.
[03:49] <pipegeek> bind-mounting that path into /var/lib/libvirt/images and then reconfiguring the vm to use that path fixed it
[03:49] <pipegeek> but that's frustrating
[03:50] <ki1180tt> Hello
[04:35] <linuxgecko> hey guys, trying to install 18.04.2 desktop on my laptop with a busted screen. i have an external monitor, but it's not using it exclusively. as such, it's displaying the installer prompts on the busted screen. how do i force it to switch?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> linuxgecko: on laptops there's sometimes a key combo Fn + F7 for example to switch screens
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> linuxgecko: is it hdmi or vga?
[04:38] <linuxgecko> lotuspsychje: i tried something like that, and it didn't seem to work. I'll try again.
[04:38] <linuxgecko> hdmi external
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> linuxgecko: do you see POST boot on the external screen, or really nothing
[04:53] <tatertotz> linuxgecko......close the lid
[04:54] <tatertotz> linuxgecko ..low hanging fruit
[05:30] <Valen> that'll often suspend the whole thing though
[05:37] <fairuz> Hi Good people
[05:40] <fairuz> I'm getting this error when trying to install sqlsrv in my Ubuntu 16.04
[05:40] <fairuz> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/20160303/pdo_sqlsrv.so' - /usr/lib/php/20160303/pdo_sqlsrv.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[05:40] <fairuz> I've installed it using pecl
[05:40] <fairuz> Is there anything I can do to fix this? Thanks
[06:16] <samba35> i have lost liberoffice word document password ,is it possible to recover it
[06:17] <ducasse> samba35: try #libreoffice
[06:17] <samba35> ok ,thanks
[06:22] <r15> hi #ubuntu,
[06:23] <r15> i have network-manager which keeps on disconnecting dhcp lease on lubuntu
[06:23] <r15> these are the logs from network-manager https://pastebin.com/gdYA1PhA
[06:23] <r15> if i manually give dhclient <interface> then ip reamins on the ethernet devices.
[06:25] <r15> info="Failed name lookup - disconnected path" error=-13 profile="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-helper
[06:29] <r15> any clue?
[06:30] <r15> i created a live iso using bootcd , on source machine there is no issue with the dhcp, however on live image i have dhcp issue https://pastebin.com/gdYA1PhA
[06:33] <starsaboveus> Hi, what version of Lubuntu are you using, @r15?
[06:37] <tatertotz> r15 same when booted to livecd/liveusb eh?
[06:43] <r15> tatertotz:issue with the custom live image only, not the source machine of custom image
[06:46] <r15> to create iso i used bootcd
[06:53] <tatertotz> r15 have you looked at your "lease"?
[06:54] <tatertotz> r15 it's not controlled from ubuntu
[06:54] <r15> tatertotz: lease is fine, since issue is replicating with laptops as well.
[06:54] <tatertotz> r15 what is your lease time?
[06:54] <r15> issue disappears if i give dclient ens3
[06:55] <tatertotz> r15 is it the same when you boot other NOT ubuntu linux livecd/liveusb?....you probably only been repeating the same things and expecting different results
[07:11] <r15> installed connman now, testing
[07:22] <amosbird> hello, how can I fix booting problem? it cannot boot into ubuntu, only the grub shell after power on
[07:26] <EriC^^> amosbird: type in the grub shell "echo $prefix" and "echo $root" and type what it says here
[07:37] <amosbird> EriC^^: https://la.wentropy.com/1iaL.png
[07:42] <x220> hi
[07:44] <EriC^^> amosbird: type "configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[07:46] <ygk_12345> hi all
[07:46] <amosbird> EriC^^: (hd0,msdos1) doesn't have /boot
[07:47] <ygk_12345> i am seeing these messages intermittently on dmesg on 16.04
[07:47] <ygk_12345> bnx2x 0000:01:00.3 eno4: NIC Link is Up, 1000 Mbps full duplex, Flow control: ON - receive & transmit bnx2x 0000:01:00.3 eno4: NIC Link is Down
[07:47] <EriC^^> amosbird: what does "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" give
[07:47] <ygk_12345> the nic is loosing connectivity some times
[07:47] <ygk_12345> is this a bug with the qlogic drivers ?
[07:48] <TJ-> ygk_12345: sounds like a switch doing what is called "port flapping" - what switch is the PC connected to?
[07:49] <ygk_12345> TJ-: let me check it once
[07:50] <TJ-> ygk_12345: is there only one connection back to the switch? (this can happen when STP is enabled and you've got two links to the switch - e.g 2 NICs, or NIC > switch + Wifi > AP > switch
[07:51] <ygk_12345> TJ-: it is a server with 10 G qlogic connected to  [‎5/‎14/‎2019 1:20 PM] Prabhakar Chaladi:  brocade FLS648
[07:51] <ygk_12345> sorry
[07:51] <ygk_12345> TJ-: brocade FLS648
[07:51] <TJ-> ygk_12345: the fact you've an interface named eno"4" suggests the PC has multiple interfaces
[07:51] <ygk_12345> TJ-: yes
[07:52] <TJ-> ygk_12345: I've seen this when you *think* some of the links are using VLANs but actually aren't, so the switch cannot figure out which port to use
[07:54] <sifu> hi
[07:54] <ygk_12345> TJ-: is it not a driver issue in the server ?
[07:54] <sifu> anyone using draftsight on ubuntu?
[07:55] <sifu> when i print to pdf why took so long to convert to pdf?
[07:55] <TJ-> ygk_12345: it could be but that is rare, usually its a physical issue or related to the phy layer/layer 2 (ethernet)
[07:56] <TJ-> sifu: I'd doubt a driver issue - it is just reporting the physical port state
[07:56] <TJ-> oops,
[07:56] <TJ-> ygk_12345: I'd doubt a driver issue - it is just reporting the physical port state
[07:56] <sifu> TJ: how can i fix that, i'm new in linux
[07:56] <TJ-> sifu: sorry, I tab-completed your nickname by mistake in answering someone else
[07:57] <sifu> no prob
[07:57] <sifu> anyone can help me pls
[07:57] <ygk_12345> TJ-: how to proceed now ?
[07:58] <TJ-> ygk_12345: I'd be checking the physical cables/links first, then I'd check the switch's config (port-flapping used to be a common gotcha on default-config dell switches, for example, with multiple links)
[07:59] <TJ-> ygk_12345: also, are you doing any kind of bonding/LACP/trunking from PC to switch ?
[07:59] <ygk_12345> TJ-: no
[07:59] <TJ-> ygk_12345: I'd go with physical issue on the link first then, followed by carefully considering the switch port configuration
[08:00] <amosbird> EriC^^: https://la.wentropy.com/Hdyp.png
[08:01] <ygk_12345> TJ-: it was working fine earlier only some days ago we started noticing these errors
[08:01] <amosbird> and there is no grub.cfg in either grub/ and grub2/
[08:01] <iamclown> hey
[08:01] <^OvO^> Hi can I minimize onboard screen keyboard in ubuntu ?
[08:02] <^OvO^> it just take my half of screen
[08:02] <^OvO^> I can't resize it
[08:03] <TJ-> ygk_12345: one thing to check is that the dmesg link config is always the same when it comes up - flapping can be caused by auto-mdix problems, which could show up as the link negotiating different speeds/duplex/ etc
[08:04] <TJ-> ygk_12345: right - you've a timeframe when this started, so investigate what changes were made on the network at the time (change in config somewhere, new devices added, cables 'tided', cleaner pulled wire out, etc!)
[08:04] <tomodachi> him checking the cve details for this:
[08:04] <tomodachi> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2019/CVE-2019-11815.html
[08:05] <tomodachi> some distros has the abbreviation DNE
[08:05] <tomodachi> what does that stand for?
[08:05] <TJ-> tomodachi: Does Not Effect if i recall correctly
[08:06] <TJ-> tomodachi: check in #ubuntu-hardened
[08:07] <TJ-> ygk_12345: one thing you could try is disabling auto-negotiation on the port
[08:07] <^OvO^> Hi
[08:08] <ygk_12345> TJ-: ok
[08:09] <^OvO^> HI
[08:17] <^OvO^> any help ?
[08:19] <EriC^^> amosbird: try "configfile (hd0,msdos1)/grub/grub.cfg"
[08:19] <EriC^^> or "configfile (hd0,msdos1)/grub2/grub.cfg"
[08:26] <^OvO^> EriC^^ didn't you help me
[08:27] <Ool> perhaps better to write in /etc/default/grub rather than in /grub/ directly
[08:28] <EriC^^> Ool: wha
[08:28] <EriC^^> amosbird: is this ubuntu?
[08:34] <amosbird> EriC^^: hmm, .... it's centos
[08:34] <EriC^^> amosbird: :D
[08:35] <EriC^^> amosbird: /join #centos
[08:40] <thefatma> Hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu18.04 with raid 0, and whenever i arrive at the partitions section it goe's "unexpected error bla bla dont send" but when i try it withou the raid 0 it works fine, any ideas?
[08:45] <TJ-> thefatma: how is the RAID-0 striping presented? A hardware device, or a logical 'fake' RAID device?
[08:54] <kontolgede> @telex: wong kowo tha kuwe?
[08:55] <r15> hi, i created live iso, need to integrate install to harddisk option
[08:55] <r15> is there any such package available please?
[09:00] <r15> found it. Thanks
[09:03] <amosbird> EriC^^: does this mean the disk is broken? https://la.wentropy.com/lW6U.png
[09:07] <ducasse> amosbird: please remember that we do not support centos
[09:16] <Seveas> amosbird: that looks like it's trying to read from or write to a floppy disk (fd0). Do you actually have one of those?
[09:17] <Peanut> Hi, good morning. I would like to distribute a newer version of the i40e driver (Intel network card) to the servers that I manage. As this is a kernel module, how would that conflict with the existing i40e driver in the Ubuntu kernel? Can I distribute the compiled module as a package, or should it be distributed as a DKMS ?
[09:17] <TJ-> Peanut: Yes, DKMS
[09:18] <TJ-> Peanut: DKMS will handle moving the built-in module out the way, and restoring it should the DKMS module be removed
[09:18] <Peanut> TJ-: OK, thanks. I found some information on making and distributing a DKMS, I'll see if I can work my way through that.
[09:18] <TJ-> Peanut: if you distribute the binary then you've got to ensure you build a new version and install it each time the kernel requires an upgrade - tha's what DKMS manages
[09:19] <TJ-> Peanut: if you need help shout out - it is pretty simply as long as the module code will build out-of-tree. Some modules have requirements to pull in private headers and therefore will fail to build
[09:20] <Peanut> TJ-: Yes, that's what I'm trying to prevent - having to build a new package for every kernel package. I hope that by the next LTS, this driver version will have made it into the regular Ubuntu kernel.
[09:20] <TJ-> Peanut: I use DKMS extensively to test modification to modules so I pull the code from the kernel tree into my /usr/src/<module>-<version>/ , create a dkms.conf there, and test
[09:21] <Peanut> Oh, just found an i40e-dkms on github. Awesome.
[09:22] <TJ-> Peanut: your only challenge is if the kernel API/ABI and driver aren't in sync
[09:22] <Peanut> TJ-: They are, I've already built the module and tested it on a single server. But now I need an efficient way to roll it out over 80 or so servers.
[09:23] <TJ-> Peanut: sounds like a 5 minute job then :)
[09:24] <Peanut> TJ-: Ansible will make it a 5 minute job once I have the package. Although in retrospect, I wish I could have returned these network cards.
[09:25] <TJ-> Peanut: you mean you want to debianise the dkms source?
[09:26] <Peanut> A DKMS isn't distributed as a .deb? Bummer.
[09:31] <TJ-> Peanut: you just need to add a basic ./debian/ directory to the source with some basic files in. I'd highly recommend using the wireguard-dkms package as an example
[09:37] <TJ-> Peanut: that is: https://github.com/EggieCode/wireguard-ppa
[09:38] <roboirc> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? and which one does kwin work on?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: discussions about ubuntu you can ask in #ubuntu-discuss
[09:38] <roboirc> ok
[09:40] <Peanut> TJ-: thanks, I was just dissecting the package. It seems that a DKMS can indeed be retrieved/installed with the standard Debian/Ubuntu packaging tools.
[09:43] <awright> hi guys I need some help with ubuntu 18.04 and nginx with CORS I have followed guide after guide but feel like I end up with the same issue
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> awright: the guides on linuxconfig are mostly clean, compare perhaps? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-the-nginx-web-server-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[09:46] <awright> lotuspsychje: nginx is setup correctly its a CORS cross origin resource sharing that eludes me
[09:46] <awright> so its not setup correctly per se
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> awright: perhaps if you elaborate deeper on it, volunteers might have ideas here
[09:47] <awright> I have a cors configuration that works for nginx v. 1.11.1 but doesnt work with nginx v 1.14.0 I have tried alot of the recommended workarounds and cant figure it out
[09:48] <tomreyn> awright: how do you know "it does not work", what exactly does not work?
[09:49] <tomreyn> and how is it supposed to work
[09:49] <awright>  https://pastebin.com/8jb2Zb8x here is the configuration. the error is that even though the cors pre flight stuff is there i still receive errors saying the request header field token is not allowed by access-control-allow-headers in preflight response
[09:50] <awright> the application would allow the use of a javascript file that is being blocked by CORS currently
[09:50] <awright> tomreyn: it should actually allow my application to communicate properly with algolia and it can't
[09:51] <thsnr> awright: which header is getting blocked? x-csrf-token?
[09:52] <tomreyn> awright when you compare headers returned now with headers returned previously, what changed exactly?
[09:53] <awright> thsnr: it says token, I thought it was x-csrf-token
[09:53] <tomreyn> don't test this from your application debugging whatever thing, but just making curl requests.
[09:55] <tomreyn> https://securityheaders.com/ may also help if that's easier.
[09:56] <awright> tomreyn: i see this command recommend to test: curl -H "Access-Control-Request-Method: GET" -H "Origin: https://www.google.com.au" --head http://www.example.com.au
[09:58] <awright> i get the same response from my working endpoint and the endpoint I am moving to
[09:59] <thsnr> log your request headers and ensure that all are allowed
[10:00] <ekarlso> Hi huys
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> welcome ekarlso how can we help you?
[10:00] <ekarlso> anyone here having issues with ubuntu 19.04 and lenovo laptops (I have a P1 which is very new) and sleep / suspend ? My laptop basically reboots or doesnt suspend properly
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: on lenovo's we reccomend checking if your firmware is up to date to avoid acpi issues as first
[10:02] <awright> thsnr: checking that now
[10:03] <tomreyn> awright: turns out i've fallen behind on those specs, would need to read up. so i can't help. it's obviously not really an ubuntu issue, just because you run some server which uses some modern web technique on ubuntu. but maybe awright can still help. you could also try #nginx (though it's also pretty unrelated there IMO) and some http related channels you can spot using !alis
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: some models might have firmware updates in the software centre
[10:03] <tomreyn> i mean maybe thsnr can still help you, awright ;-)
[10:05] <awright> tomreyn: thanks for help I do appreciate the effort
[10:08] <tomreyn> ekarlso: if you run this, it should return your specific lenovo model and current firmware version:   journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[10:08] <tomreyn> "current" as in the one you have installed currently.
[10:09] <ekarlso> DMI: LENOVO 20MES0YN00/20MES0YN00, BIOS N2EET35W (1.17 ) 12/21/2018
[10:17] <ekarlso> looks to be the latest tomreyn
[10:17] <tomreyn> ekarlso: no, the latest would be 1.21, released apr 2019: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/THINKPAD-P-SERIES-LAPTOPS/THINKPAD-P1-TYPE-20MD-20ME/20ME/20MES0YN00/downloads/DS504956
[10:18] <ekarlso> oh, it's not released via LVFS ?
[10:18] <tomreyn> lvfs depends on vendors cooperating
[10:19] <ekarlso> well they have released stuff before there :/
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:23] <thsnr> awright: it also seems to me that nginx is only including the CORS headers for preflight requests. afaik they also need to be present for the actual request
[10:24] <awright> ok
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: after the firmware is up to date, you could also try an LTS version of ubuntu, to compare with the suspend issues on 19.04
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: if those are the same, you can deeper look into logs to troubleshoot
[10:34] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: just tried, same issue on both, laptop seemingly goes into suspend with LED going off into the suspend fading cycle then it goes out of suspend without me doing anything
[10:34] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: what stuff to look at ?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: dmesg would be a good start
[10:35] <ekarlso> I just see suspend exit
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: could you pastebin the whole dmesg please, volunteers can take a look for you
[10:36] <ekarlso> sure
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[10:36] <android> hello
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome android
[10:37] <ekarlso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XFJ9XNMhWD/
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && ubuntu-drivers list please
[10:47] <u0_a165> hello
[10:47] <u0_a165> does anyone know how to stretch
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> u0_a165: stretch to 2 monitors?
[10:48] <u0_a165> lotuspsychje yes
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> u0_a165: wich ubuntu version are you on please
[10:50] <u0_a165> lotuspsychje:mean??
[10:50] <BluesKaj> u0_a165, which release
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> u0_a165: uname -a && lsb_release -a
[10:51] <tomreyn> u0_a165: run this, post the http address here:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[10:52] <nutzer_> hi
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> welcome nutzer_
[10:53] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, think he was scared away
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: are you still with us mate?
[11:00] <sappheiros> is he dying or something?
[11:00] <sappheiros> oh i'm sorry
[11:00] <sappheiros> wrong channel
[11:01] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: yes, had to drop out a bit :)
[11:03] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje:
[11:03] <ekarlso> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3m3QcswJms/
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: ok and how about nvidia-smi to see wich one is active
[11:06] <ekarlso> | NVIDIA-SMI 418.56       Driver Version: 418.56       CUDA Version: 10.1     |
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: did you install cuda yourself manual?
[11:12] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: no ?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: stock drivers then right, thats what i wanted to know you didnt install drivers from nvidia?
[11:15] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: I used the tooling from ubuntu to do it
[11:15] <thefatma> Hey guys, im i created a swapfile and im trying to locate him, how could i do that?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: allrighty tnx, so other ideas to test could be testing 18.04.2 LTS on your new firmware, or switching nvidia drivers to 390
[11:16] <qwebirc91906> hi, I'm trying to edit the .bashrc file, can I use nano for that?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> qwebirc91906, that will work
[11:17] <qwebirc91906> I want to edit this in .bashrc and also .profile files: export GOROOT=/usr/lib/go export GOPATH=$HOME/go export PATH=$PATH:$GOROOT/bin:$GOPATH/bin
[11:17] <qwebirc91906> I just copy paste that in each after opening them with nano?
[11:19] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: eh, already tested on 18.04 using usb after update
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: okay
[11:20] <qwebirc91906> hi anyone can help my question above?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !patience | qwebirc91906
[11:23] <qwebirc91906> ok hope someone can help its simple like setting environment variables but im new in linux
[11:25] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: or just kick ubuntu out for fedora 30 which worked...
[11:26] <Pharoah> looks like there is more questions then answers on here
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: your suspend worked on fedora?
[11:28] <ekarlso> yes
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: you should have mentioned this in your original question
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: can you file a new !bug please?
[11:31] <tomreyn> ekarlso: before you file a bug, please see if you can reproduce it without non standard kernel parameters and using both the ubuntu 18.04 GA (4.15)  and HWE (4.18) kernels.
[11:32] <TJ-> ekarlso: your dmesg suggests there's some device in the system that is triggering an ACPI wakeup event immediately after the PC has suspended
[11:32] <Mdlpe> hi, how to make a script to set my display color when the session begin an after the screen lock on bionic ?
[11:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc91906: this doesn't look strictly wrong to me, that's if those are separate lines.
[11:33] <TJ-> ekarlso: what kernel version worked with Fedora?
[11:34] <qwebirc91906> tomreyn what do you mean?
[11:34] <tomreyn> qwebirc91906: i mean what i said. which part is unclear?
[11:35] <Mdlpe> *** after login
[11:36] <tomreyn> qwebirc91906: ah, probably the part about multiple lines. you posted this here, looking as if you are planning to put all of this into a single line in ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile:  export GOROOT=/usr/lib/go export GOPATH=$HOME/go export PATH=$PATH:$GOROOT/bin:$GOPATH/bin
[11:36] <tomreyn> qwebirc91906: but that would be wrong. you'd need tohave all the "export ..." parts go onto separate lines.
[11:37] <tomreyn> !paste | qwebirc91906
[11:37] <qwebirc91906> but whats the $HOME command? Im using linux in windows and I keep all linux files in C:\linux
[11:38] <cfhowlett> $HOME is a directory location in your linux filesystem.  NOT  a command
[11:39] <qwebirc91906> but im using linux in windows, there is no Home
[11:39] <cfhowlett> you have a home under linux NOT windowns
[11:39] <qwebirc91906> but im using linux inside windows
[11:40] <cfhowlett> in linux do this:       ls                     to list your files and directory locations
[11:47] <qwebirc91906> whats the equivalent of $HOME when im using windows in linux
[11:47] <qwebirc91906> i put all files in C:\linux, is this the equivalent of $HOME?
[11:47] <tomreyn> !wsl | qwebirc91906
[11:48] <cfhowlett> home = your HOME directory for your user acccount
[11:49] <qwebirc91906> ubottu i know and i installed, but there is no $HOME, so i need to know the equivalent
[11:49] <cfhowlett> qwebirc91906, what is your end goal??
[11:49] <tomreyn> i think ubottu's point is that you're asking a WSL specific question, qhich means you should be asking it in #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows
[11:53] <qwebirc91906>  cfhowlett end goal is to set environment variables to install Golang: mkdir -p $HOME/go/bin echo "export GOPATH=$HOME/go" >> ~/.bash_profile echo "export GOBIN=\$GOPATH/bin" >> ~/.bash_profile echo "export PATH=\$PATH:\$GOBIN" >> ~/.bash_profile source ~/.bash_profile
[11:54] <cfhowlett> qwebirc91906, do this in your terminal:              pwd                                                   will print your working directory
[11:55] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: within the WSL environment, $HOME works just fine
[11:55] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: if you're referring to the ENV for Windows to copy files to within the Windows environment, that is beyond the scope of the support provided here.
[11:58] <qwebirc91906> cfhowlett I did and got this: hector@LAPTOP-3327CPIC:/mnt/c/linux$
[11:59] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: please see my post above. We cannot help you with anything within the Windows commandline
[12:00] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb im using ubuntou command line
[12:00] <cfhowlett> best to take to the experts in WSL channels
[12:00] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: $HOME works just fine
[12:01] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: where in that case ?
[12:01] <ekarlso> !bug
[12:01] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb why $HOME works fine? when i download Golang it doesnt go to the linux folder
[12:02] <qwebirc91906> give me links to linux windows support please, but not many people there to help
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !wsl
[12:02] <geirha> because that linux folder isn't your homedir ..
[12:03] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: do you need to have bbswitch ?
[12:03] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: sudo apt instal golang # that is how you "download" (install) golang. If you've downloaded it by another means, we cannot support that
[12:03] <thsnr> qwebirc91906: GOPATH and GOBIN do not control where Go is installed, only packages installed via Go
[12:03] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: sorry: sudo apt install golang
[12:04] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb but when I do sude apt install golang I do it from which directory in the terminal?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> qwebirc91906, your are (badly) confusing windows and linux protocols.  so sudo apt install golong and it will be set up with no further effort.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> https://termbin.com/iorq                 <<< like this
[12:06] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: it doesn't matter. Just install it
[12:07] <qwebirc91906> done
[12:07] <qwebirc91906> but now i need to do this:  You have to set GOPATH, GOROOT and GOBIN in Ubuntu also And also GO111MODULE to 'on' For these download first tar.gz file of go installation file
[12:07] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: is this for a class?
[12:09] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb not much more important, need to have golang properly installed with environment variables correct to then run some go code
[12:09] <leftyfb> Run your code
[12:10] <leftyfb> The install should take care of those ENV's
[12:12] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb I did this and i got errors: mkdir -p $GOPATH/src/github.com/cosmos cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/cosmos git clone https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos-sdk cd cosmos-sdk && git checkout master make tools install
[12:12] <qwebirc91906> fatal: destination path 'cosmos-sdk' already exists and is not an empty directory. hector@LAPTOP-3327CPIC:~/go/src/github.com/cosmos$ cd cosmos-sdk && git checkout master Already on 'master' Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'. hector@LAPTOP-3327CPIC:~/go/src/github.com/cosmos/cosmos-sdk$ make tools install go install -mod=readonly ./contrib/devtools/gosum/ flag provided but not defined: -mod usage: install [-i] [build
[12:13] <qwebirc91906> Run 'go help install' for details. contrib/devtools/Makefile:67: recipe for target '/home/hector/go/bin/gosum' failed make: *** [/home/hector/go/bin/gosum] Error 2 hector@LAPTOP-3327CPIC:~/go/src/github.com/cosmos/cosmos-sdk$
[12:13] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: ok, we're not going to help you install some blockchain project from github. Please take the time to learn what each and every one of those commands does and eventually you might be able to figure this out on your own. Good luck
[12:14] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb why you dont help if it is blockchain?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> because they do their own support of their product
[12:15] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: we cannot help you with random projects from github
[12:15] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: also, you are dead wrong. At this point, an education(class) is a way more important than what you are trying to achieve.
[12:16] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb what do you mean by dead wrong?
[12:16] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: good luck
[12:16] <cfhowlett> means you should be learning the basics before try more advanced coding.
[12:17] <qwebirc91906> which tutorial you recommend for linux in windows?
[12:17] <qwebirc91906> also do you have link to the chats for linux in windows?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> forget the windows section and just learn linux.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> IBM has several excellent tuts.
[12:18] <leftyfb> qwebirc91906: there's thousands of tutorials and books available online. Try google.
[12:18] <qwebirc91906> please  give link to best tutorial for beginner
[12:18] <cfhowlett> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lpic1-map/index.html
[12:18] <qwebirc91906> many tutorials are bad or scam i cant know which one is good
[12:20] <qwebirc91906> thanks for link, to join the chat room for windows in linux whats the link please?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> already gave it 3 times.  search your irc history - another important skill
[12:21] <qwebirc91906> cfhowlett how to search history in irl?
[12:21]  * cfhowlett has left the thread
[12:22] <qwebirc91906> leftyfb how to search history in irl?
[12:33] <ndayalan> I was trying to find the font that I am currently using in my terminal (st-256color) and used the command "fc-match". I am unclear whether it displays the current font that am I using or the first font from the list of fonts installed. I use Ubuntu 16.04
[12:34] <cfhowlett> ndayalan, look in  "preferences > text"
[12:35] <cfhowlett> should be Monospace Regular 12 pint
[12:35] <cfhowlett> *point*
[12:37] <ndayalan> cfhowlett: your answer works in gnome-termianl but i use st-termianl
[12:38] <cfhowlett> ah.  NO idea then.  sorry.
[12:57]  * Younder has a Windows machine running windows 10 with auto-cad, visual studio and steam. Also ne running Ubuntu 18.04 with Comsol multi physics, Varicad, nvidia docker, KICAD etc.
[12:57] <kreyren> i have end-user stuck in try ubuntu cause of data corruption and i need him to sent me output of commands is there something which output i can pipe to command to generate URL ?
[12:58] <kreyren> `meaning alternative to `command| curl -n -F 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io`
[12:58] <kreyren> since curl is not present
[12:58] <cryptodan> kreyren: you can do nc termbin.com 9999
[12:58] <cfhowlett> kreyen pastebin??
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !paste
[12:58] <Younder> does he have wget?
[12:58] <kreyren> cryptodan, command | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[12:58] <cryptodan> yes kreyren
[12:59] <kreyren> cryptodan, thanks
[12:59] <cryptodan> and if their dns isnt working do nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[13:00] <kreyren> cryptodan, noted, ty
[13:17] <beerstein> how can i update drivers?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> beerstein: You will need to provide more information about what you are trying to do.
[13:19] <tomreyn> beerstein: which, and why do you need to?
[13:26] <beerstein> i need amd last opengl drivers on oder version of linux i had 4.5 now i got 3.5
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> beerstein: Most of the focus here is on the applications, drivers, and os that is presently available through Canonical and Ubuntu's official software channels. Can you please explain what you are trying to do so it might be possible to provide you with better support or direct you to a more appropriate channel for help?
[13:34] <kreyren> is `try ubuntu` running on ramfs ?
[13:34] <kreyren> -> can i remove USB stick and expect it to work?
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> kreyren: The USB drive needs to remain attached to the system for the session
[13:35] <kreyren> meh
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> kreyren: It only loads into RAM what it needs at the current moment. The system will lock up if something goes in search of an application not already in the ramfs
[13:36] <kreyren> is it expected to lock up if USB stick is removed then?
[13:36] <kreyren> end-user need said USB script to fix corruption
[13:36] <kreyren> and it only boots try ubuntu atm
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> kreyren: It might work out better for the end user to connect here directly instead of going by proxy
[13:39] <kreyren> he cant go by proxy since this is the only system he has
[13:40] <kreyren> but ty for info i have an idea
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> kreyren: That's not what I said... I referred to you as the proxy. It would be better if this end user would directly connect to IRC themselves for assistance. There are plenty of way to connect via another computer or mobile device
[13:42] <kreyren> works for me, sent him here
[13:42] <kreyren> relevant: https://www.facebook.com/groups/GNUAndLinux/10162175255770019/?comment_id=10162175809305019&reply_comment_id=10162175927190019&notif_id=1557838280821115&notif_t=group_comment
[13:42] <kreyren> btw. he's packing a lot and doing lots of pebcaks, have fun :D
[13:44] <Bonbon> Hi!
[13:44] <Bonbon> Help me!
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Bonbon
[13:45] <Bonbon> Guys! Help me again! Now I am trying to install Ubuntu again from the bootable flash drive. It gives me this warning `Error fsyncing/closing/dev/sda1: Input/output error`. Because of that, I can't install Ubuntu. Please guys, help me. Please
[13:45] <kreyren> Bonbon assuming you are Denniel Luis Saway something.. ?
[13:46] <Bonbon> Yes, I am.
[13:46] <kreyren> gut, pragmaticenigma he's yours
[13:47] <leftyfb> Bonbon: it's a bad usb drive
[13:47] <cfhowlett> agreed!
[13:47] <kreyren> TLDR: he has /dev/sdb which he confirmed beeing his flash disk which is used to install ubuntu (https://i.imgur.com/Z1DLhqN.png) and which has https://i.imgur.com/hjM3NL7.png ... recommending to provide instructions to fix it so that it can be used to install ubuntu
[13:47] <Bonbon> Ok, then I ain't gonna install it there
[13:48] <kreyren> also recommending to verify that /dev/sda doesn't have important data
[13:49] <Bonbon> Ok, since the thesis of my sister is on her drive alreay, i'm ready to wipe anything in the sda
[13:49] <kreyren> What is on your sda?
[13:50] <Bonbon> Videos
[13:50] <kreyren> meaning what data are on it.. make sure that they are not important first
[13:50] <Bonbon> And some learning stuff.
[13:50] <kreyren> so pretty important
[13:51] <Bonbon> pretty important
[13:51] <Bonbon> really...
[13:51] <kreyren> >  Ok, since the thesis of my sister is on her drive alreay, i'm ready to wipe anything in the sda => dont be insane then
[13:51] <leftyfb> Bonbon: make backups elsewhere. Remove ALL drives except the drive you are installing to and your install media
[13:51] <cfhowlett> first priority : data backup
[13:51] <kreyren> or he can make a new partition using gparted that he has open already and install ubuntu on it
[13:52] <Bonbon> guys! good thing, my sister knows how to back up and I am not!!! i'm ready to do anything!!!
[13:52] <zubuntu> hi there
[13:52] <zubuntu> i freshly installed 18.04
[13:52] <Bonbon> I'm ready to completely ditch winshit10
[13:52] <kreyren> Bonbon, your sister knows how to copy files.. nice .. tell her to teach you one day
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> !language | Bonbon
[13:53] <zubuntu> on Software&Update > Other Software i can not mark Canonical Partners repository
[13:53] <zubuntu> how can i fix that?
[13:53] <zubuntu> i can not choose
[13:53] <zubuntu> i click on it but it doesnt mark it
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> zubuntu: please if you ask a question to the channel use all in one line
[13:53] <Bonbon> Ok, i'm sorry. So sorry. I'll keep waiting, though
[13:54] <kreyren> lotuspsychje, i believe that he's serious that wasnt sarcasm
[13:54] <zubuntu> ok
[13:55] <kreyren> Bonbon, check fb sent requested screenshot
[13:55] <zubuntu> on Ubuntu 18.04 > Software & Updates > Other Software - how can i select/choose/mark Canonical Partners repository?
[13:57] <zubuntu> ok nevermind i fixed it
[13:58] <nfakhir> zubuntu: you need to be root
[13:58] <zubuntu> nfakhir: without root i did it. i click on Edit then without changing anything i said OK and then i could be able to click on it to select
[13:58] <zubuntu> now another question. do i need to install additional drivers after fresh install of ubuntu?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> zubuntu: did you click the tab additional drivers?
[14:01] <zubuntu> lotuspsychje: yep
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> zubuntu: what does it show?
[14:01] <zubuntu> wait it says searching for drivers
[14:02] <zubuntu> oh
[14:02] <zubuntu> no additional drivers available
[14:02] <zubuntu> so no need it seems
[14:06] <nfakhir> zubuntu: you confused me, you did type your password at some point ?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> zubuntu: there a nice help page in ubuntu, the blue icon with ? it has some nice topics about getting around in ubuntu
[14:07] <zubuntu> nfakhir:  i dont remember
[14:07] <zubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok
[14:20] <cyberbob> hi all
[14:20] <cyberbob> someone using azure-cli on ubuntu 18.04 ?
[14:21] <cyberbob> While installing, it takes forever and never progress Progress: [  4%] [######. for the last 10min or so . . .
[14:21] <cyberbob> killed and tried like 5times and same issue, so thought to check if someone else faced same issue
[14:22] <leftyfb> cyberbob: how are you installing it?
[14:22] <tda> slow repo maybe
[14:23] <cyberbob> tda, actually it downloads and takes forever on unpacking so i believe not related to slow repo (Unpacking azure-cli (2.0.64-1~bionic) over (2.0.64-1~bionic) ...
[14:23] <cyberbob> )
[14:23] <leftyfb> cyberbob: how are you installing it?
[14:24] <cyberbob> leftyfb, using official doc https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cli/azure/install-azure-cli-apt?view=azure-cli-latest
[14:25] <leftyfb> cyberbob: ok, you'll need to contact Microsoft for support. We cannot support their repo and software.
[14:30] <Younder> AZURE... how quaint. There is always Amazon Web serviseces (AWS) or google has their Cybernetes.
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> Younder: please stay on topic
[14:33] <cyberbob> Thanks leftyfb, I'll try some other ways and then get back to azure support if needed :)
[14:34] <leftyfb> cyberbob: there is a snap for it: sudo snap install azure-cli
[14:34] <Younder> pragmaticenigma, Yeah with the overwhelming traffic on this channel we are headed for congestion.
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> Younder: discussing goes to #ubuntu-discuss
[14:35] <leftyfb> Younder: there are guidelines for a reason. Take it up with the IRC council if you have concerns with the guidelines
[14:36] <Younder> I'll try #ubuntu-pedantic
[14:37] <sappheiros> is there something like iMessage or Google Hangouts that I can use in lubuntu 18.10 to message a macOS laptop?
[14:38] <sappheiros> don't want to use hangouts.google.com because google documents crashes this i386 laptop
[14:38] <sappheiros> oh, and my mother refuses to use it
[14:38] <sappheiros> (i mean i can't just sign on to google hangouts to message her)
[14:38]  * sappheiros didn't sleep well.
[14:39]  * sappheiros looks into 'MessagePak'
[14:39] <sappheiros> *ck
[14:40] <leftyfb> sappheiros: google hangout is not google docs
[14:40] <sappheiros> i mean, i'm searching the muon package manager for 'messag' to see if there's any closs-platform service working with i386
[14:40] <sappheiros> leftyfb: yeah but i realized the reason i wasn't using it with her is she refuses Google products
[14:40] <tomreyn> there are xmpp clients, irc clients etc.
[14:41] <leftyfb> sappheiros: sounds like signal-desktop might be more her style
[14:41] <Younder> most use hexchat here
[14:41] <sappheiros> is there signal for i386?
[14:41] <sappheiros> oh, she could get on hexchat, true ...
[14:41] <leftyfb> sappheiros: that I'm not sure. Though, with i386, your options are only shrinking as time goes on.
[14:41] <sappheiros> erm, maybe ...
[14:42] <leftyfb> sappheiros: I can guarantee you, a $5 Raspberry Pi computer would perform better than that i386 you've got there.
[14:42] <sappheiros> leftyfb: yeah. i decided to take the advice of ##linux, microsoft's visual studio code group, golem.network, and basically try not to buy any more cheap laptops
[14:42] <sappheiros> but i can't get a new laptop for ~5 months
[14:42] <sappheiros> lol
[14:43] <sappheiros> leftyfb: so is the message here, "don't try to buy cheap laptops on amazon.com -- learn how to actually build one yourself"?
[14:43] <popey_> sappheiros: no, signal don't build for i386
[14:45] <leftyfb> sappheiros: I never said anything about building a computer yourself. Unless you mean a pi. Which doesn't require "building" a computer, just plugging in cables
[14:45] <popey_> sappheiros: what is the laptop spec / model?
[14:47] <TJ-> popey_: this came up yesterday in ##linux; it's core a 32-bit core-2 duo chip!
[14:47] <popey_> ok, so a bit old, but usable
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> sappheiros: Most if not nearly all providers of messaging services offer very little if any support for a desktop computer. The few remaining clients out there are mostly hacked together attempts to connect to various services, with frequent bugs and crashes as the provider frequently changes their APIs to lock out unauthorized 3rd party clients.
[14:48] <TJ-> here's the link for the CPU itself, that confirmed it. I believe the make/model is something like Dell D620 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/27233/intel-core-duo-processor-t2300-2m-cache-1-66-ghz-667-mhz-fsb.html
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> sappheiros: The better option is to find a messaging platform that works via a mobile device cross platform. Signal, WhatsApp, and others offer secure messaging device to device, with the option to interface via a computer if needed
[14:49] <sappheiros> T2300 cpu, i think, not core 2 duo
[14:50] <sappheiros> yes, dell latitude d620
[14:50] <sappheiros> so basically IRC won out by default for desktop as messaging migrated to smartphones?
[14:50] <sappheiros> i kinda miss AIM and Yahoo! Messenger and MSN Messenger lol
[14:50] <popey_> whats the actual goal here?
[14:51] <sappheiros> you could play minesweeper on MS....... i guess to message my mother's laptop on IRC now, is the solution we've come to, popey_
[14:51] <sappheiros> she install hexchat, we message on freenode, problem solved. i guess.
[14:51] <thsnr> sappheiros: is text the only requirement or do you also want to send files, voice/video call, ...?
[14:51] <sappheiros> popey_: i was wondering if there was an open-source alternative to iMessage
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> sappheiros: Just remember that IRC is NOT SECURE. Anyone on freenode can potentially intercept your messages
[14:52] <popey_> you could use bonjour
[14:52] <TheSHAD0W> Help?  Doing a dist upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, the screen died in the middle of the upgrade (changing sysctl).  No screens to reconnect to.  I'm running over ssh.  Anyone have ideas on how to reconnect?
[14:52] <popey_> ichat on the mac and a chat client on linux
[14:52] <tda> everyone's moved into their walled gardens. guess everyone's ok with a couple different chat services
[14:52] <Younder> Are you aware of the '/ignore' command?
[14:52] <popey_> bonjour would work over your lan
[14:52] <TJ-> !info mumble | sappheiros
[14:53] <TJ-> sappheiros: you can also run a private mumble server, it supports text/voice and is very performant. I've run a server for several years. You'd just have the client on yours and your mum's systems
[14:53] <sappheiros> neat, thanks
[14:54] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: so that's an ubuntu server you're upgrading? and you used "do-release-upgrade" to start the upograde?
[14:54] <TJ-> !info mumble-server | sappheiros
[14:54] <TheSHAD0W> Yes.
[14:55] <TheSHAD0W> It was complaining about changes I'd made to etc/sysctl.conf, I was copying that info down to restare that, and then the screen session just died.
[14:55] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: if you start that via ssh, a second ssh server is started listening on a different port (i forgot which, but we can look it up).
[14:55] <TheSHAD0W> restore *
[14:55] <TheSHAD0W> I'm still connected via ssh, and that port is currently blocked via firewall.  Is there a need to connect to that?
[14:56] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: hmm, this sounds like maybe you accidentially pasted something into the screen session which included commands to kill the session
[14:56] <TheSHAD0W> I don't think so...
[14:56] <TheSHAD0W> But it's possible.
[14:56] <Younder> TheSHAD0W, I use etckeeper. THat way I have arevision control system on /etc and cad see changes, restore old settings etc when I see fit.
[14:56] <TheSHAD0W> Don't have that, unfortunately.
[14:57] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: i think the other ssh server is just there so you can still reconnect when the original ssh server is restarted / replaced during the upgrade.
[14:57] <tda> check top, see if the upgrade is still running. or try apt update
[14:57] <TheSHAD0W> tomreyn: Yes, that's what I'd thought.
[14:57] <TheSHAD0W> tda: The upgrade is still running, apt and dpkg are locked out currently.
[14:58] <TheSHAD0W> Question is, at the point where sysctrl.conf is being replaced, is the system in a bootable state?
[14:58] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: but there should still be a screen session since the upgrade runs in a screen session if initiated over ssh, so if that vanished that's unusual.
[14:58] <TheSHAD0W> I can drive 25 mines to get to the main console if I have to.
[14:58] <TheSHAD0W> tomreyn: IKR?
[14:59] <tomreyn> how did you check for terminal multiplexer sessions?
[14:59] <TheSHAD0W> screen -list on both root and my user accounts.
[14:59] <TheSHAD0W> drive 25 miles * :-P
[15:00] <tomreyn> "sudo screen -list" should have listed it
[15:00] <Guest48> Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but on ubuntu 18.04.2 (LTS), despite the latest gnome-online-accounts being installed, the online accounts tab in Settings is empty, it doesn't show different types of accounts, just "Add an account" and underneath that, a white box with a the three little black squares in the middle
[15:01] <popey_> Guest48: is it a clean install?
[15:01] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: is there anything in /var/run/screen ?
[15:01] <Bonbon> Hi
[15:01] <Younder> Guest48, You need to set up SAMBA for this to work
[15:01] <TheSHAD0W> "No sockets found"
[15:01] <Bonbon> David M. Košecký ???
[15:01] <tomreyn> Bonbon: sorry?
[15:02] <Younder> Guest48, https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/install-and-configure-samba#0
[15:02] <popey_> Younder: stop
[15:02] <TheSHAD0W> Folders for my user and root, both empty.
[15:02] <TJ-> TheSHAD0W: check the dist-upgrade log files under /var/log/
[15:02] <Guest48> popey_ uh, I think it was upgraded from whatever the previous version is... 16 or 17.  Younder, I will try this samba tutorial, i feel like i had it setup at one point but may have uninstalled it
[15:02] <Bonbon> tomreyn help me on something here :'(
[15:03] <tomreyn> !ask | Bonbon
[15:03] <popey_> Guest48: i wonder if you're missing some package - try `sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^` (the ^ is important) let us know if it pulls in missing packages
[15:03] <Bonbon> Guys! Help me again! Now I am trying to install Ubuntu again from the bootable flash drive. It gives me this warning `Error fsyncing/closing/dev/sda1: Input/output error`. Because of that, I can't install Ubuntu. Please guys, help me. Please :'( 1
[15:03] <Bonbon> tomreyn ^^^
[15:04] <TheSHAD0W> 2019-05-14 08:27:25,201 INFO re-exec inside screen: '['screen', '-e', '\\0\\0', '-c', 'screenrc', '-S', 'ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window', '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-5mxnc4w7/bionic', '--mode=server', '--frontend=DistUpgradeViewText']'
[15:04] <tachikomas> BonBon try to see if you have resources in use
[15:04] <tachikomas> with lsof
[15:04] <TJ-> Bonbon: check sda isn't failing
[15:05] <tomreyn> !smart | Bonbon
[15:05] <leftyfb> Bonbon: you've been answered by several people several times.
[15:07] <Guest48> thanks popey_, I entered the command (including the ` at start and end) and it is now sort of thinking things over, no result so far
[15:07] <popey_> no, don't use the `
[15:07] <popey_> Guest48: kill it, and run without those
[15:08] <hggdh> grep Younder
[15:08] <lordcirth_> popey_, in future it would be safer to use single quotes ',  not backticks
[15:08] <popey_> lordcirth_: force of habit
[15:09] <TheSHAD0W> So, in the middle of do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, screen session terminated and cannot be resurrected, it's stuck with a lot of packages half-installed...  Process is still outstanding, I doubt the system is in a bootable state.  How do I recover from this?
[15:09] <Younder> hggdh, ?
[15:09] <Guest48> it says the following packages will be installed: aisleriot cheese gnome-mahjongg gnome-mines gnome-sudoku libgnome-games-support-1-3 libllvm6.0 libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-style-breeze notification-daemon shotwell shotwell-common   ubuntu-web-launchers xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[15:10] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: i guess your best way forward is to review the the process tree, identify the process which is probably waiting for input, and kill it. then keep watching the process tree and see to it that all processes in volved in the release upgrade quit. once that's done, review your sources.list file, see where it points to, and if it still points to the previous release, just start the release upgrade again. if it already points to the new
[15:10] <tomreyn> release, use    apt update && apt -f install && apt full-upgrade   to complete the upgrade (at least the most critical part of it).
[15:10] <popey_> Guest48: good, so you did have some missing packages
[15:10] <hggdh> Younder: wrong command, sorry -- forgot to "/" at the beginning
[15:10] <il> ls
[15:10] <il> hello
[15:10] <lordcirth_> il, hi
[15:10] <tomreyn> TheSHAD0W: but the better and cleaner approach there is a new install really, so i recommend that.
[15:10] <il> i cant login to my ubuntu
[15:10] <il> and cont use tty
[15:10] <Guest48> popey_ mostly stuff about games though... I'll try to browse through apt show of that list and see which one is the relavent one.
[15:11] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: you should be able to kill the upgrade and "dpkg --configure -a" to make it continue
[15:11] <il> when i login in tty its run a dm
[15:11] <popey_> Guest48: well, you ideally should just let all of them install
[15:11] <tomreyn> !enter | il
[15:11] <TheSHAD0W> tomreyn: The process that it's specifically hanging on is a less session showing the diff of sysctl.conf.  I haven't killed that yet because it will then hang on dpkg asking whether to replace it with the installers version, and killing that would derail the entire upgrade.
[15:11] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: nah, killing it can be continued as I mentioned above
[15:12] <TheSHAD0W> Let me try that.
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> il: to be able to help you, we need more details like ubuntu version, kernel version, graphics card chipset,..
[15:13] <TheSHAD0W> Okay, it's now hung on dpkg.  Shall I kill that?
[15:13] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: the dpkg that was already running or the one you started?
[15:13] <tomreyn> il: also discuss what changed between when it worked and now.
[15:13] <Younder> Is this a good time to mention 'killall' that allows you to give the name of the process. (If there are several it kill's all hence the name.)
[15:13] <TheSHAD0W> The one that's part of the dist-upgrade.
[15:13] <popey_> I would kill dpkg and start it again with --configure -a, yes TheSHAD0W
[15:14] <TheSHAD0W> Roger.
[15:14] <popey_> Younder: stop
[15:14] <TheSHAD0W> It opened a new dpkg session.
[15:14] <TheSHAD0W> I think it's undoing the upgrade.
[15:14] <popey_> no
[15:14] <popey_> it wont
[15:15] <TheSHAD0W> It says dpkg --auto-deconfigure
[15:15] <popey_> that's not what I said to run :)
[15:15] <TheSHAD0W> I haven't run anything, just killed.
[15:15] <TheSHAD0W> It was started by the dist-upgrade process.
[15:15] <popey_> ah okay. is it killed now?
[15:16] <TheSHAD0W> It looks like it may have restarted itself.  Letting it run a bit longer...
[15:16] <il> ok , guys when i login my ubuntu with sddm its just show me a black screen and anfter a sec i go back to sddm login page , and again and again this happend , and when i try login in tty its happend like in login page sddm , now i am use live boot to come here , please help me :(((
[15:16] <TheSHAD0W> Looks like dpkg is doing stuff right now via top, not gonna interrupt it right now.
[15:18] <il> i use kubuntu 18.02 lts before its works but now its dont work , i have to many de
[15:18] <Younder> il do you use a NVIDIA drives?
[15:18] <il> no
[15:18] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: nice
[15:18] <TheSHAD0W> Okay, it looks like the dist-upgrader bailed out.
[15:20] <Younder> il well usually when this happens, you have installed a new graphics driver and the compiler hasnt compiled in the modifications to the kernel. The two have to be in sync.
[15:20] <TheSHAD0W> Now running dpkg...  And it died, "processing was halted because there were too many errors"
[15:20] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: more than one is too many errors usually :)
[15:20] <deanc> Hi. I am running the following command sudo chown <myuser> foldername/ but the folder remains owned by root
[15:20] <deanc> no errors or anything
[15:21] <il> how can install new graphic driver
[15:21] <TheSHAD0W> Running apt-get install -f
[15:21] <il> its works before i logput
[15:21] <il> out
[15:21] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: i wouldn't. I would dpkg --configure -a, to make it finish what it was doing
[15:22] <TheSHAD0W> LOL too late.
[15:22] <tomreyn> il: what do you mean by "when i login in tty its run a dm"? what does 'dm' stand for? what haopens exactly when you switch to a text terminal (tty) and login?
[15:22] <popey_> Why ask for help then not take it :(
[15:23] <Guest48> popey_ i did the 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^' command and then I did sudo apt update && sudo apt upgradeand it installed a bunch of additional samba stuff.
[15:23] <TheSHAD0W> Okay, well, dpkg is now reporting everything completed...
[15:24] <Guest48> or rather, it upgraded a bunch of samba stuff
[15:24] <tachikomas> Did you read before upgrading anything ?
[15:27] <TheSHAD0W> Okay, so dpkg is reporting nothing left to do, dpkg --configure -a returns with no comment.  aot-get upgrade reports a crapload of upgrades which I'm hesitant to do right now.  Shall I try a reboot?
[15:27] <tachikomas> TheSHAD0W: What are you trying to do ?
[15:27] <TheSHAD0W> apt-get upgrade *
[15:27] <tachikomas> why ?
[15:27] <TheSHAD0W> tachikomas: Had a distribution upgrade that went awry.
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> TheSHAD0W: You have a back up ... right?
[15:27] <TheSHAD0W> LOL
[15:28] <TheSHAD0W> You have a point.
[15:28] <tachikomas> mhh, so what is the problem now ?
[15:28] <tachikomas> you dist upgrade, it didnt work
[15:28] <TheSHAD0W> No idea if the system is in a bootable state.
[15:28] <tachikomas> well
[15:28] <tachikomas> do you have stuff in /boot ?
[15:28] <tachikomas> initrd kernel etc ...?
[15:28] <popey_> TheSHAD0W:  if you can apt upgrade, and apt dist-upgrade, it should be fine.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> full-upgrade is the current command
[15:29] <cfhowlett> ?
[15:29] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: i would absolutely not reboot until you have done the dist-upgrade
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> popey_: They're beyond that right now
[15:29] <popey_> not really pragmaticenigma
[15:29] <popey_> I've debuged my way out of many an upgrade :D
[15:29] <tachikomas> and ?
[15:30] <tachikomas> your system is still running ? :D
[15:30] <Guest48> So now when I run 'gnome-control-center online-accounts' I get an error message: (gnome-control-center:24253): online-accounts-cc-panel-WARNING **: 17:28:27.690: Error getting a GoaClient: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.OnlineAccounts: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.OnlineAccounts exited
[15:30] <TheSHAD0W> popey_: do-release-upgrade reports no upgrade available.  Shall I do an apt-get upgrade?
[15:30] <Guest48> with status 1 (g-dbus-error-quark, 25)
[15:30] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:30] <tachikomas> TheSHAD0W: you can apt update and then apt dist-upgrade
[15:30] <tachikomas> or update => upgrade and then dist => upgrade
[15:30] <TheSHAD0W> dist-upgrade reports a lot of packages to upgrade.  Shall I do it?
[15:31] <popey_> yes
[15:31] <popey_> it's the half finished release upgrade you're doing
[15:31] <TheSHAD0W> In process.
[15:31] <tachikomas> do a upgrade BEFORE
[15:31] <popey_> you dont need to upgrade before dist-upgrade.
[15:31] <Younder> popey_, I usually reinstall before a major upgrade. Though you can ge a update to work for a while it usually breaks down at some point.
[15:31] <tachikomas> yeah well, if he has any ppa, it might broke.
[15:31] <popey_> Younder: nope.
[15:32] <popey_> My laptop has been upgraded from 11.10 all the way through 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 and beyond.
[15:32] <popey_> Upgrades can almost always be fixed when they go awry
[15:32] <Younder> popey_, Well I have been using ubuntu since 2006 and have learn t a few lessons
[15:33] <popey_> Super
[15:33] <leftyfb> lol
[15:33] <shangul> Where to download Ubuntu 18.04.2 for i386?
[15:34] <cfhowlett> shangul, 32bit has been suspended.  use 16.04
[15:34] <Younder> www.ubuntu.com
[15:34] <popey_> shangul: we no longer make 32-bit ubuntu desktop iso builds.
[15:34] <leftyfb> shangul: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[15:35] <tomreyn> shangul: there are other flavours available which still support i386
[15:35] <popey_> shangul: any reason you want 32bit in 2019?
[15:35] <shangul> popey_, a 32 bit computer :)
[15:35] <leftyfb> shangul: that is a text based installer. You'll need to select the ubuntu-desktop package during the install in order to get the desktop GUI
[15:35] <popey_> shangul: fair :D
[15:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu and lubuntu are available in 32 bit, shangul
[15:35] <Younder> popey_, Is steam still broken. In that NVIDIA refuses to install i386 drivers?
[15:36] <shangul> cfhowlett, I know but Ubuntu is not
[15:36] <leftyfb> cfhowlett: Default Ubuntu 18.04 is as well. As I posted above
[15:36] <popey_> Younder: steam works fine here.
[15:36] <leftyfb> shangul: please see the link I gave you
[15:36] <shangul> leftyfb, I saw
[15:36] <leftyfb> shangul: it also requires an internet connection during the install
[15:37] <Younder> popey_, It did out of the box here to until I installed the latest CUDA installation. Then I found out that NVIDIA no longer supports i386 just AMD64 versions of it's library.
[15:37] <qwebirc65317> hi, how to fix this?: go install -mod=readonly ./contrib/devtools/gosum/ flag provided but not defined: -mod usage: install [-i] [build flags] [packages] Run 'go help install' for details. contrib/devtools/Makefile:67: recipe for target '/home/hector/go/bin/gosum' failed make: *** [/home/hector/go/bin/gosum] Error 2
[15:38] <shangul> Thank you channel!
[15:38] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: you were told earlier. We cannot support WSL and your issue is with your blockchain github project. Contact the maintainer for help.
[15:39] <Younder> popey_, now steam lives on my 'new' windows machine
[15:41] <Younder> popey_, whatever works, I have 2 workstations. Others might not be so lucky
[15:41] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb it's not about WSL its normal linux question
[15:42] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: Contact the maintainer of the "cosmos" project on github. We cannot support that here.
[15:42] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb are you admin here?
[15:42] <popey_> qwebirc65317: we're all volunteers here
[15:42] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: That is irrelevant
[15:44] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb not irrelevant maybe other members here are nicer and willing to help me
[15:44] <cfhowlett> nope
[15:44] <popey_> qwebirc65317: we have guidelines for what's supported here. Random repos are out of scope for support here.
[15:44] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: it's not a matter of being "nice" This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Not for WSL or random linux projects on github. Your issue is not supported here.
[15:44] <cfhowlett> not a matter of "nice" or "willing".  your package is outside the scope of the channel.
[15:45] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb thanks, have a nice and will be back if have ubuntu questions
[15:46] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: not if you're running WSL
[15:47] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb you explain here how to partition hard drive to install linux?
[15:48] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: We will help you install Ubuntu on a computer, sure
[15:48] <nicomachus> !wsl
[15:48] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb thanks, but seems very complex to partititon hard drive to install linux..
[15:49] <popey_> qwebirc65317: an alternative is to use it in a Virtual Machine, such as VirtualBox or VMWare
[15:49] <cfhowlett> virtualbox is a very sane option
[15:49] <Younder> I have one parton for / one for /var one for /tmp one for /home and one for /usr/local. all settable from gparted, but it is not a beginners setup
[15:49] <qwebirc65317> popey, hmm but isnt that like WSL?
[15:49] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: it can be as simple as a checkbox during the graphical install
[15:50] <qwebirc65317> leftyfb do you have telegram? hard to talk here in this trollbox
[15:50] <popey_> qwebirc65317: no, it's "real" ubuntu
[15:51] <leftyfb> qwebirc65317: I only provide support here
[15:51] <qwebirc65317> popey so i install virtualbox and then how to install ubuntu there?
[15:51] <nfakhir> qwebirc65317: "trollbox" ?
[15:51] <popey_> qwebirc65317: https://askubuntu.com/questions/142549/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-virtualbox
[15:51] <popey_> the first answer there is comprehensive
[15:52] <Younder> qwebirc65317, ZEN OS is a option, but has restrictions on graphics drivers. No games..
[15:52] <nfakhir> quintopia: you can download already installed VirtualBox boxes
[15:52] <nfakhir> qwebirc65317: ^^
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Younder: please dont suggest other Oses in the ubuntu support channel
[15:54] <Younder> nfakhir, yes, sort of, there is a command line tool called vagrant that installs VirtualBox (and other virts) images
[15:54] <qwebirc65317> nfakhir where to download already installed vitualbox that are not trojan or sth?
[15:55] <popey_> qwebirc65317: you're better off clean installing, it doesn't take long, 20 mins or so
[15:57] <thsnr> qwebirc65317: it is telling you that -mod is not a supported flag
[15:57] <thsnr> you are trying to use Go 1.12 commands with an older version (probably 1.10 on Ubuntu)
[15:57] <cfhowlett> thsnr, as his package is out of scope of this channel, please go direct chat with support
[15:58] <thsnr> ack
[16:00] <qwebirc65317> thsnr I have newer version of go: hector@LAPTOP-3327CPIC:~$ go version go version go1.10.4 linux/amd64
[16:00] <qwebirc65317> popey whats the guide with the 20min installing?
[16:00] <popey_> qwebirc65317: the askubuntu link I posted
[16:01] <popey_> qwebirc65317: if you install in a VM, then you can get newer versions of golang easily with "snap install go --channel=1.12/stable" (snaps don't work in WSL)
[16:02] <TheSHAD0W> Okay, well, system is booting, thank you tomreyn, popey, tachikomas, for your help.  :-)
[16:02] <popey_> TheSHAD0W: happy days!
[16:04] <Younder> vagrant with VirualBox is less wasteful tan snal
[16:05] <Younder> snap
[16:05] <ash_worksi> I'm working on a 16.04 box
[16:05] <qwebirc65317> popey but before going through that guide i need to download virtualbox and ubuntu in windows right?
[16:05] <ash_worksi> when I do `PS1=\u` I get "u" for the prompt instead of a username
[16:06] <popey_> qwebirc65317: ya
[16:06] <Younder> better still is installing docker
[16:06] <Younder> but that is just my 2 cents
[16:06] <ash_worksi> nvm, I needed to quote it
[16:10] <qwebirc65317> Younder you are referring to me about docker?
[16:10] <qwebirc65317> popey whats best safe links to download latest virtualbox and ubuntu?
[16:11] <popey_> qwebirc65317: virtualbox.org for virtualbox, and ubuntu.com/download for ubuntu
[16:12] <Younder> qwebirc65317, there is to my knowledge no unsafe link yet. www.ubuntu.com
[16:12] <Younder> qwebirc65317, and then sudo apt install virualbox
[16:13] <popey_> Younder: you're giving unhelpful advice
[16:14] <Younder> Because Linux repositories are centralized you don't have to worry about safety to the same degree as you do under Windows.
[16:14] <compdoc> unless something is broken with the current version of virtualbox, just use whats in ubuntu repositories
[16:14] <popey_> Younder: they're installing virtualbox on windows, so there is no "apt install" on there.
[16:15] <Younder> popey_, Then why are they here
[16:15] <popey_> Younder: currently to get help installing ubuntu. which is reasonable.
[16:15] <Younder> popey_, whatever ;) sorry
[16:18] <qwebirc65317> Younder how can i isntalt vitualbox before isntalling ubuntu?
[16:18] <cfhowlett> qwebirc65317, you are installing virtualbox to windows.
[16:19] <popey_> qwebirc65317: ignore Younder
[16:20] <Younder> qwebirc65317, I missed the fact that you had windows, then wanted to intsall virtualbox and in that windows
[16:21] <Younder> qwebirc65317, I missed the fact that you had windows, then wanted to install virtual-box and in that Ubuntu
[16:21] <Younder> so yes ignore me
[16:24] <sudovim> Hi, i noticed that the command 'sudo' now prints *s when i enter my password, is this a new change? how can i disable it?
[16:25] <dax> sudovim: sudo visudo, look for pwfeedback on a Defaults line, remove it
[16:26] <sudovim> ah, thanks dax !
[16:26] <dax> (I'm about to go afk, but hopefully that's a quick fix.)
[16:27] <sudovim> dax: it worked, thanks a bunch!
[16:29] <qwebirc65317> popey i downloaded virtualbox, but for ubuntu says this is it ok?: "Ubuntu Desktop ›  Download Ubuntu desktop and replace your current operating system whether it’s Windows or Mac OS, or, run Ubuntu alongside it."
[16:29] <qwebirc65317> popey i dont want to replace windows but instal ubuntu in virtualbo
[16:29] <popey_> qwebirc65317: yes, that's correct
[16:29] <popey_> qwebirc65317: you will end up at https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[16:29] <popey_> hit the big green button
[16:30] <Siecje> I'm in two docker images. When I do cat /proc/version I see Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10 in both. But in one i see jessie in apt update. In the other I see strech debian. How can I tell which distro I am using?
[16:30] <popey_> Siecje: lsb_release -a
[16:31] <Siecje> popey_: I don't have it in either.
[16:31] <popey_> hah, neat!
[16:32] <popey_> Docker images are made by the developer (or yourself) and they can contain literally anything. how about cat /etc/issue ?
[16:32] <popey_> Siecje: ^
[16:33] <Siecje> One appears to be debian. Why does it say ubuntu 16.04
[16:34] <popey_> Siecje: like I say, people can jam anything in a docker image.
[16:34] <Siecje> popey_: The image is python:3.6.8
[16:35] <nfakhir> Siecje: they're most likely not the same image
[16:36] <Siecje> nfakhir: They are not the same image.
[16:36] <Siecje> Isn't that an official Python image?
[16:42] <qwebirc65317> popey ubuntu still downloading, then i will follow the guide you sent me before and will let you know if it works
[16:46] <thsnr> Siecje: the docker image python:3.6.8 is based on Debian stretch
[16:48] <thsnr> Siecje: you can check yourself here https://hub.docker.com/_/python (under Shared Tags)
[16:49] <Siecje> thsnr: Why does it say Ubuntu in /etc/version?
[16:53] <thsnr> Siecje: either it is not that image or you have modified it yourself: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mzRpS4VZ2k/
[16:53] <jcotton> how do you get libgmp installed?
[16:53] <jcotton> ghci needs it but it can't find it, despite having installed all the pre-reqs
[16:55] <jcotton> oh ic it's libgmp10 in the repos
[16:57] <qwebirc65317> popey ubuntu is being installed in VM but it asks options: "erase disk and install ubuntu", "encrypto the new ubuntu install.." "use LVM..", which do I choose?
[16:57] <jcotton> hm
[16:57] <jcotton> ok install libgmp3-dev worked
[16:57] <compdoc> erase disk and install ubuntu
[16:59] <qwebirc65317> anyone can help with this: popey ubuntu is being installed in VM but it asks options: "erase disk and install ubuntu", "encrypto the new ubuntu install.." "use LVM..", which do I choose?, im using this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/142549/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-virtualbox
[17:01] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, no need to repeat your question. What about the choice is confusing?
[17:01] <jcotton> lordcirth_: he was adding some information to it
[17:01] <jcotton> not just a straight repeat
[17:01] <lordcirth_> Ah, true
[17:01] <qwebirc65317> because if it is in Virtualbox why is there option of erasing harddisk? i dont want to erase harddisk just install ubuntu in virtualbox
[17:01] <jcotton> b/c there's a virtual harddisk
[17:01] <jcotton> that the MV sees
[17:02] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, it's the virtual hard drive inside the VM.
[17:02] <qwebirc65317> are you sure? if true harddisk is erased it will be catasthrophe
[17:02] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, yes. That's how VM's work.
[17:03] <jcotton> it can't see the actual disk
[17:03] <OerHeks> qwebirc65317, as you can reinstall that vm, that option is valid
[17:03] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, VM's emulate hardware. The "hard drive" is actually a file on your real hard drive.
[17:04] <qwebirc65317> ok
[17:04] <qwebirc65317> so i choose the erase hardisk option then?
[17:04] <jcotton> yes
[17:06] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth i opened the VM again and that option was not there anymore so i guess was install, next step is: "After a successful installation we have to remove our installation .iso image from the virtual optical drive before we reboot. This can be done from the "Devices" menu or by removing the .iso from the VM settings:"
[17:07] <qwebirc65317> I click "eject disk .."?
[17:09] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, yes
[17:09] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth says not possible to eject and ask to clik force eject?
[17:10] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, if it booted properly after the install that shouldn't happen
[17:10] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, shut it down, then remove it, then boot
[17:10] <qwebirc65317> by shut it down you mean force eject?
[17:13] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, no, shut down the VM
[17:13] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth ok, then by remove what do you mean?
[17:14] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, removing the ISO from the VM.
[17:15] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth ok and then?
[17:17] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, and then start the VM again, like I said.
[17:19] <uxfi> Anyone here from the US?
[17:19] <lordcirth_> !chat | uxfi
[17:20] <uxfi> sorry
[17:21] <jcotton> what's the default umask supposed to be?
[17:21] <jcotton> mine is 000 for some reason
[17:21] <lordcirth_> jcotton, mine (default bionic) is 0002
[17:23] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth maybe error is for this: "A 64-bit guest needs the CPU virtualization technology (VT-x AMD/V) to be enabled in BIOS." If I install 32 xhats the difference?
[17:23] <jcotton> thanks lordcirth_
[17:24] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, yes, you need virt support for 64bit. 32bit could work, but you'd need a 32bit ISO.
[17:24] <jcotton> virt support also makes everything faster
[17:24] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth, god how to enable the 64bit support?
[17:25] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, it's in your BIOS settings
[17:26] <qwebirc65317> how to open BIOS settings? sorry im a total noob
[17:27] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, you reboot, and press  the key it says, to get BIOS settings.
[17:32] <qwebirc65317> lordcirth reboot windows? what key to press?
[17:33] <lordcirth_> qwebirc65317, as the computer boots, it will usually show "press Del for BIOS" or something like that
[17:42] <qwebirc65317> lordtcirth boot is not restart right? how to restart with boot?
[17:42] <OerHeks> unmount the iso in virtualbox, and done
[17:56] <OerHeks> yay, intel-micro code update
[17:59] <Niwla23> I have a problem
[18:00] <lordcirth_> !ask | Niwla23
[18:02] <Niwla23> I installed the ircd-hybrid server. Now i wanted to reinstall it and removed it via apt-get. And i deleted the folder in etc. Now i reinstalled, and the folder havent been recreated. How to do that it recreates everyting?
[18:05] <dserodio_> I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.2 on a Dell Inspiron 5378 laptop with an external monitor. Today I updated all packages, and when I returned from lunch, the lock screen wouldn't unlock correctly (a frequent problem). I rebooted, and now it won't recognize the external monitor anymore. I tried a colleague's monitor and he tried mine: the problem is definitely in my notebook. My first thought it to try to rollback the updates, how can I find out which
[18:05] <dserodio_> packages were updated? Any other ideas?
[18:06] <lordcirth_> Niwla23, you could try using 'apt purge' instead of remove, then installing
[18:06] <lordcirth_> dserodio_, you can see what packages changed in /var/log/apt/
[18:07] <dserodio_> thanks lordcirth_
[18:18] <Niwla23> So how to just uninstall a package so you can install it like it was never installed?
[18:18] <lordcirth_> Niwla23, that's what 'apt purge' does. 'apt remove' keeps config files
[18:27] <rbo> Does anyone have experience installing nvidia drivers with Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 on ubuntu 19.04, it appears the drivers are installed and the nvidia profile was selected, however it doesn't appear that it is activated at all.
[18:28] <rbo> Everytime I attempt to use nvidia-settings I just get the message ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded
[18:28] <rbo> Same thing trying to use cuda, it just says that there is "No Cuda capable device detected"
[18:28] <rbo> is this something that I would have to enable in the kernel?
[18:30] <Bashing-om> rbo: "doesn't appear that it is activated: -> wgar shows ' sudo lshw -C dosplay ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[18:31] <Bashing-om> what*
[18:31] <Bashing-om> rbo: sudo lshw -C display ** sheesh .
[18:32] <rbo> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/kcxmNRvr
[18:33] <rbo> It detects the device, and I have gone through several iterations of installing the NVIDIA drivers, (the official method says unable to launch nvidia-drm) and the ppa methods install the appropriate NVIDIA drivers but I get the error that "unable to communicate with NVIDIA driver" / driver not loaded.
[18:34] <Bashing-om> rbo: UnGood "*-display UNCLAIMED >> configuration: latency=0" - nope, NO driver is loaded :(
[18:35] <rbo> ah, what am I missing from all of this. I am not entirely sure?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> rbo: What says the manager ? ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' .
[18:35] <rbo> https://pastebin.com/hAZtW4ww
[18:36] <rbo> oh... it says nvidia is blacklisted o-O
[18:36] <rbo> that is dumb.
[18:37] <Bashing-om> rbo: Yeah - "Is nvidia blacklisted? yes" .. and I do not have access to a 19.04 install to verify where that might take place :(
[18:38] <rbo> Bashing-om: it's in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[18:38] <DXH30> so what we got here
[18:39] <DXH30> is nvidia considered non-free drivers ?
[18:39] <rbo> DXH30: you mean "proprietary" ?
[18:39] <DXH30> yea
[18:39] <DXH30> isn't ?
[18:40] <rbo> DXH30: there are certain drivers from nvidia that are considered proprietary and some are open source. but yes, originally NVIDIA wasn't supported due to it's proprietary nature.
[18:40] <Bashing-om> rbo: Naybe ,, a lot has changed wuth sytemd and later releases. might check also /lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf . Still looking for where else :)
[18:41] <plouj> what happened to this disco package: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-5.0.0-7-generic_5.0.0-7.8_i386.deb ?
[18:41] <rbo> Bashing-om: thanks! yeah for some reason it is blacklisted inside of there! Seems like something a lazy dev would do ?
[18:42] <DXH30> I still don't know why is there any blacklisted driver, someone care to tell me whats wrong with proprietary driver ?
[18:44] <rbo> I think it was originally to prevent drivers from clashing incorrectly and then causing a system to kernel panic? I am not entirely sure.
[18:44] <rbo> brb.
[18:44] <calcul0n> yes, blacklist is just a config so the kernel does not load it
[18:44] <calcul0n> nvidia is know to cause conflicts with nouveau, its free alternative
[18:46] <DXH30> btw, if I've installed binary kernel header, where can I configure it with make setup. I got some issue on wireless Network driver which prevent me from enabling it after it got disabled randomly.
[18:47] <genii> plouj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1821413
[18:47] <genii> plouj: "abandoned"
[18:48] <DXH30> or maybe it is my hardware problem
[18:48] <calcul0n> DXH30, it's maybe just turned off, you can check that with rfkill
[18:50] <DXH30> yeah I've get permission Denied with rfkill, and it couldn't up somehow until I get my laptop reboot.
[18:51] <DXH30> I think it is my hardware problem, bcos it happen on any other distros I try
[18:57] <plouj> genii: interesting, thanks
[18:58] <genii> plouj: You're welcome
[19:01] <rbo> ok Bashing-om
[19:01] <rbo> Removing it from the blacklist-nvidia.conf fixed it.
[19:01] <rbo> :eyeroll:
[19:02] <rbo> Really, I just commented everything out.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> rbo: Glad was just that :) You do good work :P
[19:02] <rbo> Thanks, I will document my findings.
[19:22] <ChunkzZ> anyone around? I need help setting up a "socks5" proxy to route all my traffic through on ubuntu cli.
[19:26] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://www.serverlab.ca/tutorials/linux/administration-linux/how-to-configure-proxy-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[19:32] <ChunkzZ> NOT what I'm looking for leftyfb
[19:32] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: how so?
[19:33] <ChunkzZ> I need a socks5 proxy for ALL traffic.
[19:33] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: yeah? Follow the link I posted
[19:33] <ChunkzZ> I did and it doesn't work
[19:34] <ChunkzZ> export HTTP_PROXY=user:pass@my.proxy.server:8080 < I need something that can add a socks5 proxy with port(s).
[19:34] <ChunkzZ> anyone else?
[19:35] <Ben64> can you explain what you mean
[19:35] <beznicku_android> what
[19:35] <ChunkzZ> Ben64,  me?
[19:35] <beznicku_android> yep
[19:36] <Ben64> indeed
[19:36] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html
[19:36] <ChunkzZ> I have a vpn provider that offers http and http(s) proxies.. I want all my traffic to go through the socks5 proxy. what leftyfb linked me to is just apt and I can't configure a port to connect to.
[19:37] <teward> ChunkzZ: you configure that in the proxy string...
[19:37] <ChunkzZ> ?
[19:37] <teward> https://user:password@proxy:PORTNUMBER/
[19:37] <ChunkzZ> lmao
[19:37] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html
[19:37] <teward> ^ general 'functional' behavior for a general proxy, same applies for SOCKS proxies you just need to append port numbs to the strings.
[19:37] <Ben64> uh the link leftyfb says how to do it, with ports, and it's not just apt
[19:37] <teward> alternatively, DNAT as was suggested
[19:37] <teward> and that's global
[19:38] <ChunkzZ> I'm lost
[19:39] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: follow the last link I gave you.
[19:39] <ChunkzZ> I am
[19:42] <ChunkzZ> doesn't work left
[19:42] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb,
[19:42] <ChunkzZ> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[19:42] <ChunkzZ> Bad argument `nl.torguardvpnaccess.com'
[19:42] <teward> well yeah you can't do that in DNAT/SNAT
[19:42] <teward> you need the IP(s) themselves.
[19:42] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: you need an ip, not host
[19:42] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: 88.202.177.199
[19:43] <teward> funny I get 88.202.177.184 for that lookup
[19:43] <teward> and other ones
[19:43] <leftyfb> teward: it's regional I think
[19:43] <ChunkzZ> Bad argument `88.202.177.199'
[19:43] <leftyfb> teward: I get different ip's from different hosts
[19:43]  * leftyfb sigh
[19:44] <ChunkzZ> from: root@odroidxu4:/etc/openvpn# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s ! 88.202.177.199 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 88.202.177.199:1090
[19:44] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: may I ask why you're doing this? Why do you need a web proxy for all your traffic? It's not what it's meant for really
[19:44] <leftyfb> odroid?
[19:44] <ChunkzZ> because I can't use a vpn because my isp throttles it.
[19:46] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: it's not supported here, but maybe look into https://www.wireguard.com
[19:47] <zubuntu> hi
[19:47] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: wireguard is a different protocol than openvpn or ipsec. I'm guessing your ISP hasn't fingerprinted the traffic to throttle yet
[19:47] <zubuntu> how to enable firewall in ubuntu?
[19:47] <leftyfb> zubuntu: are you behind a NAT(router)?
[19:48] <zubuntu> i am using normal adsl connection
[19:48] <zubuntu> i mean something like windows firewall
[19:48] <tona> hello eveyone
[19:49] <tona> how could I know if my repositories are connected
[19:49] <tona> how could list my repositories
[19:50] <zubuntu> tona: i wish i knew..
[19:50] <leftyfb> zubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW  though, if you are behind a router, you don't really need it
[19:50] <leftyfb> tona: open up the "software and updates" program
[19:50] <tona> but how could I do it using the console
[19:51] <bb36e> tona `apt update` will try to fetch from each repo
[19:51] <leftyfb> tona: grep -v -- "#" /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[19:51] <zubuntu> leftyfb: i have a modem but not sure if it protects good enough
[19:51] <tona> is there another way to list only the repositireoes on the console
[19:53] <leftyfb> zubuntu: on your pc, in a terminal, run: ip addr   # does it show an ip starting with 24.113? Or something like 192.168?
[19:54] <zubuntu> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
[19:54] <leftyfb> zubuntu: please do not paste the entire thing here
[19:54] <zubuntu> inet 192.168...
[19:54] <tona> using yum repo info give me ,  one response everything is connected  is there one similiar command for ubuntu
[19:55] <leftyfb> ok, that is a private ip. You are protected behind a NAT'd router. There is no routing to your machine from the internet
[19:55] <zubuntu> oh good then
[19:55] <zubuntu> thx leftyfb
[19:56] <leftyfb> tona: apt-cache policy | grep http | awk '{print $2 $3}' | sort -u
[19:58] <tona> ok leftyfb it give me many http , but I tried to use curl url and told me server not found but it is retrieving packages , then something I am missing :) ?
[19:59] <OerHeks> using yum repo info ???
[19:59] <leftyfb> tona: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[19:59] <leftyfb> OerHeks: he was giving a comparison
[19:59] <zubuntu> is there any cleanup app like windows disk cleanup?
[19:59] <tona> I am trying to check the connnectivity from each repositores in order to verify everythign is working
[20:00] <leftyfb> zubuntu: none that are suggested
[20:00] <leftyfb> tona: sudo apt update # this will verify everything is working
[20:00] <OerHeks> zubuntu, bleachbit is a heavy tool, use with caution https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/download-bleachbit-2-0
[20:01] <tona> ok and how could I check or compare the response of this output command
[20:01] <zubuntu> OerHeks: i used that once and erased many things necessary. i am afraid to use it
[20:02] <zubuntu> so is there any way to clean unnecessary things recommended?
[20:02] <OerHeks> zubuntu, that is why we warn against it, without knowledge it is a dangerous tool indeed
[20:02] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, what do you want to do? Free up space?
[20:02] <leftyfb> tona: sudo apt -q update ; status=$? ; if [ "$status" = "0" ] ; then echo "Everything is fine!" ; else  echo "Something isn't working correctly" ; fi
[20:02] <linuxgecko> is there a way from console, that i can force a display shift from extend to mirror?
[20:03] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: randr
[20:04] <zubuntu> lordcirth_: not only freeup just want to remove if there are unnecessary things behind
[20:04] <lordcirth_> zubuntu,
[20:04] <lordcirth_> zubuntu, ncdu can help
[20:05] <zubuntu> i mean if there is a way to do it on terminal it is ok even
[20:05] <zubuntu> no need program or not recommended app
[20:05] <zubuntu> or a way to fix/delete broken things
[20:05] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: tyvm! i'll check and confirm that did as needed.
[20:06] <leftyfb> zubuntu: what is broken?
[20:06] <TEOSEOOOO> hola
[20:06] <LUCITA> hola
[20:06] <OerHeks> zubuntu, you can search manually in your homefolder, for data/cache to delete..
[20:07] <leftyfb> !es | TEOSEOOOO
[20:07] <OerHeks> TEOSEOOOO, please not again..
[20:07] <TEOSEOOOO> FUCK YOU
[20:07] <leftyfb> !op | TEOSEOOOO
[20:07] <LUCITA> fak
[20:07] <LUCITA> ptooooooooooooooooo
[20:07] <leftyfb> genii: missed one
[20:07] <zubuntu> ok i will check and make research for it
[20:08] <genii> !es| LUCITA
[20:08] <LUCITA> rsoblríkr
[20:08] <leftyfb> genii: they are the same troll
[20:08] <tona> thanks so much leftyfb
[20:09] <genii> leftyfb: Probably just probing to see if mods are around
[20:09] <jcotton> he should use modprobe for that
[20:09] <jcotton> *badum* *tsh*
[20:09] <blackflow> badum-tss!
[20:09]  * genii crawls back to work
[20:10] <genii> !uy
[20:10] <genii> Ah, no Uruguay specific channel
[20:13] <ChunkzZ> teward, you know much about danted?
[20:13] <ChunkzZ> I'm trying it on ubuntu 18 before I do my server.
[20:15] <oddcoder> is this the right place to ask about upstart ?
[20:16] <ChunkzZ> or anyone else?????
[20:16] <oddcoder> I wanted to upstart a service whose conf is not in init dir
[20:16] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: that will not help your issue with routing all traffic on your client through a proxy
[20:17] <leftyfb> oddcoder: what version of ubuntu?
[20:17] <jbase> hello
[20:17] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, danted is a proxy server, no?
[20:17] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: correct
[20:17] <ChunkzZ> so then IT should be fine./
[20:17] <lordcirth_> oddcoder, what Ubuntu version? Isn't upstart 14.04 and earlier?
[20:17] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: that will not help your issue with routing all traffic on your client through a proxy server. Regardless of which server you run
[20:18] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, then what will?
[20:18] <oddcoder> lordcirth_: it is not that I am using old ubuntu
[20:18] <leftyfb> lordcirth_: did you look at wireguard?
[20:18] <leftyfb> oddcoder: what version of ubuntu?
[20:18] <oddcoder> I installed upstart because that is what the project was using
[20:18] <lordcirth_> oddcoder, don't change your init system just for one program. Adapt what the project does to systemd.
[20:18] <oddcoder> I guess it is 16.04
[20:18] <jbase> Somehow I ended up with a box with a different network adapter than that used during installation. So, I have no connectivity. Current network adapter is Atheros E220x killer gigabit adapter (1969:e091). Kernel is 4.4.0.146-generic. I need to enable (or download) the ALX network driver module. How can I do it ?
[20:19] <jbase> please :)
[20:19] <leftyfb> oddcoder: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[20:19] <oddcoder> well
[20:19] <oddcoder> ok
[20:19] <oddcoder> just a moment when I vpn into the network
[20:19] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: did you look at wireguard?
[20:19] <oddcoder> i will lose connecton here
[20:19] <oddcoder> I wanted to avoid that xD
[20:19] <ChunkzZ> yes
[20:20] <ChunkzZ> my vpn provider doesn't use it
[20:20] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: If you require the proxy services provided by your VPN provider, what you do think running your own proxy server is going to give you?
[20:21] <jbase> Please help: is it possible to extract a certain driver from an Ubuntu distro, to install it on a target machine? I am missing the alx networking driver module
[20:21] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-wireguard-supporting-vpns-in-2019/
[20:21] <ChunkzZ> what the hell you on about? who said I wanted to host my own vpn????????????????
[20:21] <elm_> do Ubuntu smartphones still exist?
[20:21] <leftyfb> elm_: no
[20:21] <oddcoder> bzck
[20:22] <oddcoder> leftyfb: confirmed Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
[20:22] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: danted is a proxy server
[20:22] <oddcoder> so you suggest moving that app to systemd
[20:22] <oddcoder> ?
[20:22] <oddcoder> is there manuals for the porting or somethign ?
[20:22] <leftyfb> oddcoder: as suggested, why not create a systemd unit calling the same binary as the upstart script?
[20:22] <lordcirth_> oddcoder, it shouldn't be complicated. it's just starting and stopping a program.
[20:23] <oddcoder> I never used upstart or systemd before
[20:23] <oddcoder> xd
[20:23] <oddcoder> let me see
[20:23] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Example_Systemd_service
[20:23] <elm_> leftyfb: can I hack an existing Android smartphone to run with ubuntu?
[20:23] <jbase> ok, i don't mind partaking in your conversation
[20:24] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: they do provide a client, but I think it would only work with the dante server. I also do not think it's going to provide you anything more than what you have now. Also, there's dante no client provided by ubuntu.
[20:24] <leftyfb> elm_: It's not supported here
[20:24] <OerHeks> jbase, installing an ubuntu driver on what exactly?
[20:24] <lordcirth_> jbase, are you sure you don't have the driver? 4.4 should have nearly every gigabit driver
[20:25] <elm_> leftyfb: is that software still developed or not? what does that mean: not supported here?
[20:25] <leftyfb> elm_: it is not developer anymore, nor supported here. As in, it's offtopic here.
[20:26] <jbase> lordcirth, problem is this installation was done on a different box with a Realtek network adapter. I had to move it to another mobo.
[20:26] <dax> elm_: try /join #ubports
[20:26] <jbase> So the driver is missing. If I try a fresh install, network card is immediately detected and working
[20:27] <leftyfb> jbase: why do you say the driver is missing? Are you sure the NIC name didn't just change and you need to update your netplan settings?
[20:27] <jbase> I need to force the system to update network drivers according to current setup
[20:28] <jbase> leftyfb: lspci does not show "kernel module in use"
[20:29] <jbase> dmesg | grep eth
[20:29] <jbase> yeilds nothing
[20:29] <leftyfb> jbase: ls /sys/class/net/
[20:30] <jbase> lo
[20:32] <jbase> I have net.ifnames=0 in kernel to stop eth renaming, my network card is always eth0
[20:32] <jbase> in grub
[20:32] <jbase> *when it's present :)
[20:33] <apb1963> 16.04 My root was 10GB (sdb1) and the system warned me I was low on space - 100MB left.  So I decided to resize it larger.  My /usr/local was mounted on another partition, also 10GB (sdb2 I think), I had another partition with 30 GB, unallocated.  And additional space/partitions carved up in various ways probably not relevant.  I backed up /usr/local and then deleted partition 2 on someone's advice.  After, I could no longer boot.
[20:33] <apb1963>  I'm typing from a live disk.  The partition table appears to have merged all of the contiguous unallocated space into one partition (i.e. 10GB + 30GB=40GB).  On someone else's advice I attempted to restore the partitions to how they were originally.  This result follows.  You'll notice on the first entry I typed in the wrong info due to sleep deprivation but finally accepted the default.  The next entry it wouldn't let me enter
[20:33] <apb1963> and I finally went with the default as others recommended.  I ended up with this: https://snag.gy/pcVRd2.jpg   Now I've been told to reorder my partition labels... and I decided to come here instead to talk to people that know partitions and the tools inside & out.
[20:34] <lordcirth_> apb1963, is this a virtual machine?
[20:34] <apb1963> lordcirth_: no
[20:34] <lordcirth_> apb1963, why only 40GiB then?
[20:34] <apb1963> apb1963: because of math
[20:34] <apb1963> lordcirth_: because of math
[20:35] <apb1963> gotta stop typing to myself
[20:35] <lordcirth_> Anyway, with that little space you can't really afford to divide things up too much. It's probably simplest to reinstall and use only /.
[20:35] <apb1963> next!
[20:35] <lordcirth_> 18.04 will use a swap file, so that's flexible
[20:36] <apb1963> someone that bothers to read what I wrote please
[20:36] <lordcirth_> apb1963, I did read it. Why can't you reinstall?
[20:36] <jbase> leftyfb, is it possible to find a module by pci id and do insmod on it
[20:36] <jbase> ?
[20:37] <jbase> or is there some driver repository for ubuntu? the kernel DOES have this driver, but it's not installed during installation
[20:37] <jbase> I install using dpkg -i linux-image*.deb linux-headers*.deb
[20:37] <leftyfb> apb1963: I read what you wrote. Lose the attitude and reinstall and restore from backup
[20:37] <is_null> apb1963: there is no such thing of "merging all of the contiguous unallocated space", there's j"just more contiguous space when you remove a partition from the table"
[20:38] <is_null> *next to contigous space
[20:38] <is_null> apb1963: contigous spaces does not deserve an entry in the partition table that stores the list of partitions including start end sectors
[20:39] <apb1963> When you take two partitions and end up with one partition that includes both, I call that merging.
[20:40] <apb1963> I had 1 10GB partition and one 30GB partition.  I now have 1 40GB partition.  That, is a merger.
[20:40] <is_null> apb1963: also post your fstab
[20:41] <is_null> lordcirth_: you don't reinstall linux
[20:41] <is_null> *need to
[20:41] <leftyfb> apb1963: you mean you deleted the 30G partition and expanded that 10g. That is a deletion and expansion. Merging would not require deletion and restoration of data
[20:42] <kgrandly> Hello everyone! I get the following error https://pastebin.com/bCW9FhKx while installing thelounge.deb on my virtual machine. I've already tried this suggestion https://askubuntu.com/questions/954862/couldnt-be-accessed-by-user-apt-pkgacquirerun-13-permission-denied but this error appears: No such file or directory
[20:43] <apb1963> is_null:
[20:43] <apb1963> # cat /etc/fstab
[20:43] <apb1963> aufs / aufs rw 0 0
[20:43] <apb1963> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[20:43] <is_null> please use a paste site
[20:43] <apb1963> leftyfb: no, I didn't.
[20:43] <leftyfb> kgrandly: we cannot support that .deb package outside of the ubuntu repos. You can install the snap of it though. sudo snap install theloungeirc
[20:43] <TJ-> apb1963: you didn't return yesterday; did I/we break the system on reboot?
[20:43] <apb1963> TJ-: yes
[20:44] <is_null> apb1963: the /etc/fstab from the root partition of the system you're sacrifying chicken to resurrect
[20:44] <apb1963> TJ-: couldn't boot
[20:44] <TJ-> apb1963: arghhh! I waited ... and waited and worried
[20:44] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you
[20:44] <TJ-> apb1963: are you still recovering it now?
[20:44] <apb1963> TJ-: needed to bring up another machine in order to burn a cd
[20:44] <apb1963> TJ-: so that I could live boot
[20:44] <apb1963> TJ-: yes
[20:45]  * TJ- goes to sit on the naughty step
[20:45] <apb1963> lol
[20:45] <apb1963> TJ-: I'm live booted now with kubuntu 16.04
[20:45] <TJ-> apb1963: and you're fixing the 18.04 install?
[20:45] <apb1963> TJ-: no.  ubuntu 16.04
[20:46] <TJ-> apb1963: oh; thought it was 18.04 we were working on yesterday
[20:46] <apb1963> hmm
[20:46] <il> hi guys how can create my channel in irc in ubuntu 18 lts
[20:46] <jcotton> 18 what?
[20:46] <apb1963> does that naughty step include any spanking stations?
[20:46] <jcotton> 18.04? 18.10?
[20:46] <leftyfb> il: go to #freenode for help with IRC
[20:47] <TJ-> apb1963: I'm looking at your imgpaste of gparted; is 16.04 in sdb1 and 17.04 in sdb3 then?
[20:47] <apb1963> TJ-: there is no 17 ... only 16 & 18 which I wasn't actually using.
[20:48] <TJ-> apb1963: sorry, that was a typo... 18.04 in sdb3 ?
[20:48] <TJ-> apb1963: I'm looking at: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/bxdjU
[20:49] <apb1963> TJ-: yes
[20:49] <TJ-> apb1963: so what is the state of play now? what are you fixing?
[20:49] <apb1963> TJ-: and thank you for that... I didn't save all my pastes
[20:49] <apb1963> TJ-: hang on for snapshot
[20:50] <TJ-> apb1963: are you (still) dealing with partition issues, or is that solved now?
[20:50] <apb1963> TJ-: this is where I am currently  https://snag.gy/pcVRd2.jpg
[20:50] <apb1963> TJ-: not solved
[20:52] <apb1963> TJ-: let me bring you up to speed with the whole story...  you're the first "someone".
[20:52] <apb1963> TJ-: 16.04 My root was 10GB (sdb1) and the system warned me I was low on space - 100MB left.  So I decided to resize it larger.  My /usr/local was mounted on another partition, also 10GB (sdb2 I think), I had another partition with 30 GB, unallocated.  And additional space/partitions carved up in various ways probably not relevant.  I backed up /usr/local and then deleted partition 2 on someone's advice.  After, I could no longer
[20:52] <apb1963> boot.  I'm typing from a live disk.  The partition table appears to have merged all of the contiguous unallocated space into one partition (i.e. 10GB + 30GB=40GB).  On someone else's advice I attempted to restore the partitions to how they were originally.  This result follows.  You'll notice on the first entry I typed in the wrong info due to sleep deprivation but finally accepted the default.  The next entry it wouldn't let me
[20:52] <apb1963> enter and I finally went with the default as others recommended.  I ended up with this: https://snag.gy/pcVRd2.jpg   Now I've been told to reorder my partition labels... and I decided to come here instead to talk to people that know partitions and the tools inside & out.
[20:54] <holi-il> hi il
[20:54] <TJ-> apb1963: I'm still waiting for snag.gy to load! You do pick 'em  :D
[20:54] <apb1963> TJ-: lol it's the overseas connection I'm sure.  run a traceroute to it
[20:55] <TJ-> apb1963: OK, well let's dispense with the myths first. In GPT the partition labels can be in any order so you do not need to re-order them
[20:55] <TJ-> apb1963: I have, its about 20 hops. pings completely fail.
[20:55] <holi-il> how can create my channel in irc
[20:56] <leftyfb> holi-il: go to #freenode for help with IRC
[20:56] <apb1963> TJ-: comes right up for me
[20:57] <apb1963> TJ-: whereas imgur...  that takes forever... so long I had to give up.
[20:57] <apb1963> TJ-: yeah... thanks for that about the reorder
[20:57] <TJ-> apb1963: someon broke the Internet :)
[20:57] <TJ-> apb1963: OK, so right now the problem is what? that 16.04 in sdb1 fails to boot?
[20:58] <apb1963> TJ-: yes
[20:59] <TJ-> apb1963: how is it failing? Does GRUB start? Does GRUB load Linux? Does the kernel start but userspace fail?
[21:01] <apb1963> TJ-: would a look at dmesg help?  https://termbin.com/mohq
[21:01] <TJ-> apb1963: indeed. is that from the 16.04 that fails?
[21:02] <apb1963> TJ-: yeah it just hit me... it's from kubuntu so ... nvm
[21:02] <TJ-> apb1963: ahhh no, that's the liveISO casper boot
[21:02] <apb1963> he's such a friendly little ghost
[21:03] <TJ-> apb1963: you've got pastebin ability so let's collect some data, mmmmm
[21:03] <apb1963> hmmm.... mount the partition and snarf the logs?
[21:03] <TJ-> apb1963: nope, not yet
[21:03] <TJ-> apb1963: I want to know the current state of the partition table and other stuff. I'm formulating a command to collect what is needed
[21:04] <apb1963> 'k
[21:06] <TJ-> apb1963: " cat <( cat /proc/partitions; lsblk -f ; mount ; ) | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[21:06] <apb1963> TJ-: https://termbin.com/velp
[21:08] <TJ-> apb1963: so you've currently for the 16.04 root-fs mounted at /mnt/ ?
[21:08] <apb1963> TJ-: I forgot I did that last night
[21:08] <[itchyjunk]> Hello, a tutorial says `pip3 install numpy`. but ubuntu says i should install `python3-pip`. is `pip3` the same as `python3-pip` ?
[21:08] <apb1963> TJ-: but yes
[21:09] <TJ-> apb1963: let's grab the partition table: " sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[21:09] <tomreyn> [itchyjunk]: package "python3-pip" provides, ampongst other, the pip3 command.
[21:10] <[itchyjunk]> oh, i see. thanks
[21:10] <apb1963> TJ-: https://termbin.com/2y2w
[21:11] <tomreyn> [itchyjunk]: which files are available from a package can be seen at https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python3-pip -> click on your ubuntu release codename -> click on "list of files"
[21:12] <tomreyn> [itchyjunk]: the "numpy" library can also be installed as a package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&exact=1&keywords=python3-numpy&searchon=names
[21:14] <[itchyjunk]> yeah i saw i could get it as `apt install` but i was told `pip install` from a virtual environment is the best way to do it. now just to figure out the virtualenvironment
[21:14] <TJ-> apb1963: OK, let's see if we can review the last boot log from the broken install: "journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[21:16] <apb1963> TJ-:
[21:16] <apb1963> root@kubuntu:~# journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:16] <apb1963> Using --boot or --list-boots with --file, --directory or --merge is not supported.
[21:16] <TJ-> apb1963: what version of kubuntu live are you using? That should work on 18.04
[21:16] <apb1963> 16
[21:16] <TJ-> apb1963: Arghhh!
[21:17] <apb1963> TJ-: could have sworn I mentioned it... sorry
[21:17] <TJ-> apb1963: you did, but I thought we were talking about the broken install :)
[21:18] <TJ-> apb1963: lets try an alternative: "tail -n 1000 /mnt/var/log/kern.log | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[21:19] <apb1963> TJ-: that's more my speed.  :D  https://termbin.com/iwt7
[21:21] <TJ-> apb1963: nothing helpful there, it is all just network DHCP
[21:22] <TJ-> apb1963: lets go back to you describing where it gets to. 1. Does GRUB start? 2. Does GRUB load the kernel? 3. Does the kernel start to boot?
[21:22] <apb1963> TJ-: just to be clear....  the broken install is ubuntu 16.04.  I'm running a kubuntu 16.04 live disk.  The 18.04 ubuntu that sits there is in an unremembered state - i.e. I don't remember, but I do know I wasn't ready to upgrade, that was a bit of a test.
[21:24] <apb1963> TJ-: I'll have to reboot to be 100%, but I believe grub starts... I don't think the kernel loads but again... I was half asleep at the time.  Shall I reboot?  I was trying not to since I'd lose all my pastes but I think you have the relevant ones.
[21:24] <TJ-> apb1963: we could experiment by using QEMU virtual machine to boot the broken install, that way you can see where it gets to and repeatedly test it without physically rebooting the PC
[21:24] <apb1963> TJ-: sounds good.  I've never used it though.
[21:26] <TJ-> apb1963: give me a moment to figure out the command you need here
[21:28] <apb1963> TJ-: this seems reasonable: https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/qemu-ubuntu-tutorial.html
[21:30] <ChunkzZ> anyone know how to use openconect with tcp/udp? I can connect with "iphere:22" but idk if it's using tcp/udp. I need udp.
[21:31] <TJ-> apb1963: yes, but doesn't cover what I want to do, so looking at my notes. We want to add a serial console and capture it to a log file
[21:34] <TJ-> apb1963: as well as the other options we'd need "-serial tcp:127.0.0.1:9999 -monitor stdio" and have a separate process doing "nc -l -p 9999 | tee boot.log" - and on the kernel command-line we'd have to add "debug console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8"
[21:35] <apb1963> TJ-: kewl  give me a minute to put that together
[21:37] <AdmiralAsshat> Hello! Can anyone enlighten me as to what Ubuntu is doing on the backend to let you execute a java binary natively on the command-line without invoking the java interpreter?
[21:37] <TJ-> AdmiralAsshat: binfmt
[21:38] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: it still is using the java interpreter. it's just like an automatic shebang line.
[21:39] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: using binfmt, a feature that identifies file types by some magic byte sequence and can execute the correct program to run it.
[21:39] <AdmiralAsshat> TJ-, so if I wanted to dupe the behavior on another Linux OS that doesn't have it, what would you recommend? An alias/script like so?  `java -jar myJar.jar $@` ?
[21:40] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: if you need a command to be portable, write the full one out. don't rely on kernel behavior to be present. it's a configuration option.
[21:40] <apb1963> is anyone else following my conversation with TJ and wants to see the rest?  If so... message me, we're going to a private channel so as not to disturb others here anymore.
[21:40] <TJ-> AdmiralAsshat: it uses the kernel's binfmt_misc support, look that up
[21:41] <AdmiralAsshat> I unfortunately have to maintain compatibility with a python script that expects /usr/bin/foo to be able to execute directly, as if it were on Ubuntu. So if I need it to work on Fedora, I'm expecting that I need /usr/bin/foo to be a symbolic link to /usr/bin/foo.sh that would then call java and all the param options, yeah?
[21:42] <ChunkzZ> anyone know how to use openconect with tcp/udp? I can connect with "iphere:22" but idk if it's using tcp/udp. I need udp.
[21:42] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: why a symlink? you can use a shebang script. those are usually enabled on Linux.
[21:42] <ryuo> largely guaranteed outside of embedded Linux which might disable it for some reason.
[21:43] <TJ-> !info binfmt-support | AdmiralAsshat
[21:43] <AdmiralAsshat> ryuo, yeah, it could be a script. Do you think the one-liner above will pass muster?
[21:44] <AdmiralAsshat> If a script will work for Fedora users, I'd probably prefer to do that rather than add another dependency.
[21:44] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: probably. be sure to use exec with it or you'll have a shell hanging around for no good reason.
[21:44] <ryuo> apb1963: sure?
[21:47] <AdmiralAsshat> ryuo, TJ-, thanks for your help. I'll probably just go the script route.
[21:48] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: most portable option. binfmt is a convenience.
[21:48] <ryuo> AdmiralAsshat: for it to work, each system would have to be configured to do the same.
[21:48] <ryuo> but shebang scripts are almost always available and require no system configuration.
[21:49] <AdmiralAsshat> Thanks!
[21:51] <adamcunnington> Where are the launcher icon's sourced from?
[22:15] <jiqiren> i'm having trouble getting non-builtin apt source working with unattended upgrade, any pointers?
[22:17] <jiqiren> basically not able to figure out the right mix of stuff to put in Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins for https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian
[22:53] <jbase> So... Im back
[22:53] <jbase> the problem I am getting is network driver lost when installing another kernel
[22:53] <jbase> Is there a way to force installation of a specific driver when installing a kernel?
[22:57] <tomreyn> jbase: usually, network interface drivers come with the kernel. there are exceptions. which hardware (NIC), ubuntu version and kernel version is this about?
[22:57] <jbase> the driver I need DOES come with the kernel, I cant make my machine install it
[22:58] <jbase> it's networking drivers. They are normally installed on fresh install.
[22:58] <jbase> But I moved the harddisk from another machine which had a different network adapter.
[22:58] <jbase> So i have no connectivity on new machine
[22:59] <jbase> If I install fresh from usb stick, it's working. If i install with dpkg -i linux-image-nn.deb, its not getting installed!
[22:59] <tomreyn> if this NIC driver is supported by linux, then it should work out of the box, even if you moved disks around.
[22:59] <jbase> yes, I moved the disks, but the machine where it was installed, did NOT have this network adapter.
[23:00] <tomreyn> if you need a separate module, which needs to be built for the very kernel version you have, then that will need to be built.
[23:00] <jbase> so it's not activated in this install. How can I activate it? module name I need is "alx"
[23:00] <jbase> it's atheros network adapter.
[23:01] <tomreyn> alx is the Qualcomm Atheros AR816x/AR817x PCI-E Ethernet Network Driver
[23:01] <jeremy31> jbase, alx has been part of the kernel for years
[23:01] <tomreyn> right
[23:01] <jbase> jeremy31, yes it is! but its absent if you move the disk from the machine that didn't have that adapter during installation!
[23:02] <tomreyn> and on linux you don't need to install new drivers when you moved the mouse pointer
[23:02] <jbase> I've previously had exactly the same problem with rtl8168 card, but I found a separate install script for it.
[23:02] <jeremy31> jbase, it should work as nothing is really saved, hardware is scanned during boot
[23:02] <jbase> anyway, I have no idea why it's not installed automatically, can you help me out? :)
[23:03] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, you around?
[23:03] <tomreyn> check your logs, reconsider answering the questions i asked above.
[23:04] <jbase> If I do a fresh install from usbstick, it's working!
[23:04] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: ?
[23:04] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, my isp does support wireguard. I've just set it up but still seeing my isp's external ip. is that normal?
[23:04] <ChunkzZ> my vpn*
[23:05] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: where you you seeing your isp's external ip?
[23:05] <ChunkzZ> I followed this:https://www.ckn.io/blog/2017/11/14/wireguard-vpn-typical-setup/
[23:05] <ChunkzZ> curl icanhazip.com
[23:06] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: #wireguard might be a good place for you to ask
[23:09] <jeremy31> jbase: The only reason I can think of is that you may have blacklisted alx in /etc/modprobe.d or there was a regression in the kernel
[23:10] <jbase> jeremy31 I'll check that. But the alx dir is absent from /lib/modules/*/kernel/net/
[23:10] <jbase> it's supposed to be there, right?
[23:10] <jeremy31> jbase: check in terminal "modinfo alx"
[23:11] <jbase> module alx not found
[23:11] <leftyfb> jbase: modinfo alx
[23:12] <tomreyn> well, if you'd run ubuntu and an ubuntu kernel, you'd have it.
[23:13] <jbase> well, I see ath_pci is blacklisted
[23:13] <jbase> not sure it's the one
[23:13] <Arnaud2> hi nerds
[23:13] <Arnaud2> I have a problem
[23:14] <Arnaud2> it's all about Ubuntu on a stick
[23:14] <tomreyn> jbase: it will depend on this one, yes.
[23:15] <jbase> tomreyn: should I run anything after removing this line for it to come in effect?
[23:16] <Arnaud2> as in booting from the stick
[23:16] <tomreyn> Arnaud2: so what *is* your question?
[23:16] <Arnaud2> Mind you, I have a new computer -dell- apparently, I cannot boot from the USB stick
[23:16] <jbase> oh, update-initramfs, I remember :)
[23:16] <tomreyn> jbase: modprobe alx
[23:17] <xamithan> Uh most all new computers should boot from usb
[23:17] <Arnaud2> well this one doesnt
[23:17] <xamithan> Well what happens when you try
[23:17] <Arnaud2> and there s no need to be rude
[23:18] <Arnaud2> Well.. Actually, my first version was Kali as for my studies
[23:19] <Arnaud2> but then I installed a lite Ubuntu
[23:19] <Arnaud2> and nope.. No way I can boot on it
[23:19] <tomreyn> which 'lite ubuntu' did you install?
[23:19] <jbase> tomreyn: FATAL: Module alx not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-146-generic
[23:21] <tomreyn> jbase: which ubuntu version is this?
[23:21] <jbase> 16.04 LTS
[23:21] <tomreyn> and you have the modules package installed?
[23:22] <jbase> linux-modules-4.4.0-146-generic, yes
[23:23] <jbase> 4.4.0-146.172 to be exact
[23:24] <tomreyn> which architecture is this?
[23:25] <jbase> x86 64
[23:27] <tomreyn> jbase:  find /lib/modules -name alx.ko
[23:28] <tomreyn> on my 16.04 VM, this does show for the 4.4 kernels
[23:28] <jbase> yes, its found in /lib/modules/4.20.17-042017 and /lib/modules/5.1.1-050101 : I tried installing these kernels before. But they dont work for me  for other reasons.
[23:29] <jbase> I
[23:29] <jbase> I'll try another machine for that...
[23:30] <jbase> yep, found on another machine with same kernel version. Copy over? :)
[23:30] <tomreyn> mainline kernels with a non up to date ubuntu 16.04 could get tricky, i assume.
[23:30] <tomreyn> is package linux-modules-extra-4.4.0-146-generic installed?
[23:31] <tomreyn> (note the "extra" bit)
[23:31] <tomreyn> jbase: ^
[23:31] <jbase> I guess not
[23:31] <jbase> let me try and install that one
[23:32] <haroldv> Hi
[23:32] <haroldv> somebody can help me ?
[23:33] <tomreyn> haroldv: that'll depends on what you need help with
[23:33] <leftyfb> !ask | haroldv
[23:34] <haroldv> My ubuntu is very slow to load
[23:35] <tomreyn> was it faster previously, or is it a new install? if it was faster before, what changed in between?
[23:36] <jbase> I'll go get an apple while its installing :)
[23:37] <haroldv> I execute this command "sudo systemd-analyze blame
[23:37] <haroldv> "
[23:38] <haroldv> How can I show the result ? because I don't remember the command
[23:39] <haroldv> Hi
[23:40] <haroldv>  31.291s dev-sda2.device
[23:40] <haroldv>          29.200s systemd-journal-flush.service
[23:40] <haroldv>          18.721s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
[23:40] <haroldv>          17.483s dev-loop43.device
[23:40] <haroldv>          17.483s dev-loop46.device
[23:40] <haroldv>          17.481s dev-loop47.device
[23:40] <tomreyn> !paste | haroldv
[23:41] <haroldv>          13.018s dev-loop22.device
[23:41] <haroldv>          12.876s dev-loop14.device
[23:41] <haroldv>          12.780s dev-loop24.device
[23:41] <haroldv>          12.771s dev-loop21.device
[23:41] <haroldv>          12.756s dev-loop23.device
[23:41] <jbase> tomreyn: its working now, thank you very much for your help! :)
[23:41] <tomreyn> jbase: you're welcome
[23:42] <jbase> I was tempted to do a fresh install, but I knew I had to nail it, now I've learned something useful! I just love linux and love to learn new stuff. :)
[23:42] <tomreyn> jbase: you have pending security updates, be sure to install them soon and reboot, if needed.
[23:43] <jbase> tomreyn, you mean the IRC client?
[23:43] <tomreyn> kernel updates
[23:44] <tomreyn> $ rmadison linux-image-generic -s xenial-updates
[23:44] <tomreyn>  linux-image-generic | 4.4.0.148.156 | xenial-updates | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
[23:44] <jbase> oh, ok