[02:00] <deiter> Installed 19.04. Seems to work very well. LXQT is very nice.
[18:30] <lubucub> hi, I am lost, I never used this channel. Can youn help me to find a way how to put an LX-Terminal to the bottoom panel of Lubuntu 18.04?
[18:30] <lubucub> Thank you, lubucub
[18:30] <lynorian> lubucub: what do you mean in the bottom panel do you mean in the quick launch to easily launch it
[18:31] <lynorian> on 18.04 right click the quick launch area to add it there
[18:32] <lubucub> Ok, I have only one panel, at the bottom. To the left is the menu (when I click), then the file manager icon, then the web browser icon. I would like to a terminal icon, too. How?
[18:34] <lubucub> I have to add, I googled my fingers blood-dripping ;-) but I could not find a solution yet. I could do it with Lubuntu 19.04, but with 18.4 no way :-(
[18:34] <wxl> why not just use 19.04? :)
[18:35] <lubucub> Because it's LTS and lasts longer.
[18:35] <wxl> well
[18:35] <wxl> not really
[18:36] <wxl> once 2021 hits, we drop all support for it, while support for lxqt continues on
[18:36] <wxl> there will be an lts for lxqt in 2020
[18:36] <wxl> also, the upstream development of lxde is slow to the point of not existing
[18:36] <wxl> it's not a dead project, but it doesn't have much life
[18:36] <wxl> while lxqt is actively being developed constantly
[18:37] <wxl> so if you're looking for something to invest in that's going to be well supported for a long time, it's lxqt not lxde
[18:37] <lubucub> I will use LTS in 2020 for sure, but till then, I want some something steady
[18:37] <wxl> i don't know that i'd call it stead
[18:37] <wxl> y
[18:37] <wxl> for example, there's a bug with pcmanfm crashing randomly
[18:37] <wxl> it's been reported upstream but they haven't even responded to the bug
[18:38] <wxl> get that: a major component of their operating system is essentially non-functional..... and they don't even reply
[18:40] <lubucub> Well, to my modest needs, 18.04 is well suited compared to 19.04, and I do not want to install 19.10, but I get it: 18.04 has now means to add a humble little LX-Terminal to the panel, right?
[18:41] <lubucub> I mean "no" means!
[18:42] <wxl> oh i'm sure there's a way.. just got to remember what it is
[18:42] <wxl> it's not as intuitive as it is in lxqt
[18:42] <wxl> (as is the case with most things)
[18:42] <lynorian> this way is right click on the menu and select add to quick launch
[18:43] <lubucub> Unfortunately, I get only "add to desktop" and "properties"
[18:44] <wxl> yeah that's what i see, too
[18:44] <wxl> oh, it's a drag and drop thing
[18:44] <wxl> it's just a little sensitive getting it in the right spot
[18:46] <lubucub> I cannot drag and drop the LX-Terminbal, neither from the Desktop nor from the menu :-(
[18:46] <wxl> i just did it with the menu
[18:49] <lubucub> @<wxl> how did you do it?
[18:54] <lubucub> @<wxl> To be precise: Ican drag it onto the panel, but nothing happens. Though, very strangely, I get a message "there is already one file in this location". But I cannot see it!
[18:56] <lubucub> @<wxl> I got it :-) It was very tricky! You are an agel, thank you :-)
[18:58] <lubucub> @<wxl> "angel", of course! Sorry my only previous internet chat was in the early 80s.
[18:59] <wxl> lubucub: sorry i disappeared. glad you got it figured out :) p.s. i started chatting on the internet around the late 80s
[19:06] <lubucub> Since this worked so great, another question with Lubuntu 18.04: where/how to find the settings for Touchpad? Such as "Tap to click, on/off"
[19:06] <wxl> you can use synaptics for that
[19:06] <wxl> which is all command line
[19:07] <lubucub> I have a global solution from  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ 00-keyboard.conf, but in my multiuser  system I would like to have it locally, user-specific.
[19:08] <wxl> you can set it with synaptics in your local autostart
[19:08] <wxl> to be clear that's synaptic*s* not synaptic
[19:08] <wxl> why they chose that name so as to threaten ambiguity is beyond me
[19:10] <lubucub> Click to tap off, is ideal for my second user, but I would like to be able to toggle on/off as in Ubuntu or Debian settings. Possible with synaptic?
[19:10] <wxl> not without making a script
[19:10] <wxl> you could make a desktop file for it and throw it in ~/.local/share/applications (if i remember the location correctly) and it will show in the menu
[19:11] <lubucub> Wow, not my strength. Could you suggest a link to follow?
[19:11] <wxl> ok well it's not too hard
[19:11] <wxl> i can walk you through it
[19:12] <lubucub> So be it :-)
[19:12] <wxl> i just have to remember the synaptics setting
[19:13] <lubucub> It is not necessary today. Can I reach you tomorow, maybe about same time?
[19:14] <wxl> yeah i'll probably be here
[19:14] <wxl> you could also post a message to the mailing list
[19:14] <lubucub> I don't know how to do it!
[19:15] <wxl> send an email to lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[19:15] <wxl> describe your problem as you did here
[19:15] <wxl> i can tell you this: `synclient TapButton1=1` turns it on and `synclient TapButton1=0` turns it off
[19:18] <lubucub> I will try, but for now, have a good night (I am on CET).
[19:18] <lubucub> And thank you again