[14:04] <studio-user742> hello world!
[14:08] <djlaserman> help
[14:09] <m_ad[m]> studio-user742: hi, keep in mind that this is a support channel. If you need support with Ubuntu Studio just ask your question. For offtopic chichat join #ubuntustudio-offtopic
[14:11] <m_ad[m]> djlaserman: ask your question please. just 'help' doesn't bring you any further
[14:22] <djlaserman> after installation will I still be able to see the contents of the files in the NTFS partitioned hard drives?
[17:39] <tomjuggler> Hi everyone. Just installed 19.04 like a week ago. Been using Ubuntu Studio since 11.10, super impressed with the latest version.
[17:39] <Eickmeyer> tomjuggler: Glad you like it. :)
[17:41] <tomjuggler> So I just dropped in to ask for advice because my menu's have disappeared :(
[17:41] <tomjuggler> specifically the nice Audio, Video and other Ubuntu studio specific sub-menu's
[17:42] <Eickmeyer> That's strange. Make sure ubuntustudio-menu is installed.
[17:43] <tomjuggler> I did something, installed menulibre to add a few items, then they were gone
[17:43] <Eickmeyer> That's why. Menulibre doesn't honor our menu structure, so it has been known to delete our custom menus.
[17:44] <tomjuggler> they are still showing up on Menulibre though, just not in my menu!
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> Still, Menulibre corrupts our menu structure. It cannot be trusted, and we cannot support it.
[17:44] <tomjuggler> What is the recommended UbuntuStudio way to do menu editing?
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> We don't recommend editing the menu at all.
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> We are working on a solution, but alacarte and menulibre are to be avoided.
[17:45] <tomjuggler> any suggestions to get it back, I was stoked with the look and all, sorry I messed it up
[17:46] <Eickmeyer> Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntustudio-menu". Other than that, we might have to wait for OvenWerks, if he's available.
[17:46] <tomjuggler> trying...
[17:47] <tomjuggler> nothing happened
[17:47] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, thought that might happen. It rearranges stuff in your ~/.local or ~/.config, I just can't remember what right now.
[17:47] <Eickmeyer> It = menulibre
[17:48] <tomjuggler> can I edit the config file manually?
[17:48] <Eickmeyer> You can, if you can find it in your home directory.
[17:48] <Eickmeyer> It's not just one config, though. It changes .desktop files. I want to say they would be in your ~/.local/share/applications folder, but I could be wrong.
[17:49]  * Eickmeyer has never edited the menu
[17:49] <tomjuggler> ok I will try that, could take a while though. Thanks for the help. I am hoping to make some tutorials at some point showing off some of my workflow (for youtube), so wanted the desktop to look right. I use synapse mostly
[17:50] <Eickmeyer> tomjuggler: the folks in #xubuntu might be of more assistance. I'm good at stuff that's specific to Ubuntu Studio, like our custom menu items, but they are specialized in the Xfce desktop environment, and might know how to restore the menu to defaults.
[17:51] <tomjuggler> Thanks. have a good one!
[17:51] <Eickmeyer> You too! tomjuggler, though, hang out in here in case OvenWerks shows up and can help.
[17:53] <tomjuggler> ok. just looking at text files now..
[18:05] <OvenWerks> tomjuggler: in ~/.config/menus/ you will probably find a file... remove that.
[18:07] <OvenWerks> I have also heard that alacart has a undo or reset or something like that which works.
[18:08] <OvenWerks> The problemn with menulibre (last I checked) is that it uses the stock xfce menu config file (which is broken ... won't fix) rather than the actual file that is being used by the system.
[18:10] <OvenWerks> That is only problem one, there are others. It works fine for something like xubuntu that uses the stock file anyway, but not for menus with custom bits.
[18:11] <OvenWerks> alacart is a "better" option, but it has it's problems too. At least it is less intrusive.
[18:12] <tomjuggler> Yes I think I found the stock file somewhere. to be honest I just use menulibre to add a .desktop file quickly so it will show up in synapse
[18:13] <OvenWerks> if there is not a file there, try looking in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/
[18:14] <tomjuggler> now I broke something. After one week
[18:15] <OvenWerks> We are working on a menu item add applet. But it is not there yet
[18:15] <tomjuggler> Ok wait I just noticed you said remove the .config/menus/ file? there are a few in there, the relevant one seems to be xfce-applications.menu
[18:15] <tomjuggler> going to backup and remove now
[18:15] <OvenWerks> Yes get rid of that.
[18:15] <OvenWerks> it was added by menu libre
[18:16] <OvenWerks> Another way to get a desktop file is from the top panel.
[18:17] <tomjuggler> hooray my menu is back! Thanks @OvenWerks
[18:17] <OvenWerks> If you right click on the menu icon on the panel and select Panel->Add new items. you will get a dialog
[18:18] <tomjuggler> panel -> add new items, got it. Uninstalling menulibre now
[18:18] <OvenWerks> if you select Launcher at the top...and add it will put a little terminal shapped thing ayt the right end of your panel.
[18:19] <OvenWerks> if you right click on that... and select Properties, you will get yet another dialog :)
[18:21] <OvenWerks> On the right side there are greyed out up and down arrows then a plus and under that an edit button. If you click on the edit button... you will get yet another dialog
[18:21] <OvenWerks> That dialog will create a desktop file.
[18:22] <OvenWerks> You fill out the name you want to apper on the menu. The comment is the same as tool tip.
[18:22] <tomjuggler> ok I see. I tried once creating them manually, it was a pain.
[18:22] <OvenWerks> the Command is what you would put on the command line to run it from there
[18:23] <OvenWerks> The directory is _if_ it needs to start from a specific directory (normally I leave that blank)
[18:24] <OvenWerks> click on the no icon button to select an icon
[18:24] <OvenWerks> If it is a CLI program that needs a terminal to run (like alsamixer) click on that. Then  create.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> You will have created a desktop file
[18:29] <tomjuggler> new system tested working. enjoy your morning/evening
[18:30] <OvenWerks> Cool