| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: http://i.imgur.com/fpxGVwV.png | 01:34 |
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| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: So, is the filename absolute path? | 01:35 |
| OvenWerks | The filename is only text, no path, no extension. The .desktop will get added and the file placed in ~/.local/share/applications/ | 01:36 |
| OvenWerks | That will over ride anything | 01:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Okay, that makes sense. So, should it say filename, or application name? I'm just trying to think from a user perspective. | 01:38 |
| Eickmeyer | People aren't going to necessarily understand the term "Desktop File" especially if they are coming from Mac or Windows. | 01:39 |
| OvenWerks | if there are no spaces application name is ok... but really if the user wants to override a system file it has to have the same name. | 01:39 |
| OvenWerks | Also, people are used to not being able to use any odd character in a file name | 01:41 |
| Eickmeyer | Fair enough. | 01:42 |
| OvenWerks | I actually put the file detection in with the wrong button (edit) when it should be (save) | 01:43 |
| OvenWerks | my idea is to create a temp file with a copy of the original file (if it exists) or a template (if it doesn't) and use that to call exo-desktop-item-edit | 01:45 |
| OvenWerks | Then when that exits and save is pressed, The temp file is copied on top of the original or created. | 01:46 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, that's a great idea. Keeps it non-destructive until finalized. | 01:47 |
| OvenWerks | Hmm, I guess I need a "remove" button. not sure what to call it, that removes the file from ~/.local/share/applications/ and lets the system file work. | 01:47 |
| OvenWerks | Anyway, I want to get it working first... right now the about button works :) | 01:48 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, that's a start. :) | 02:40 |
| OvenWerks | When it can at least make a file I will upload it | 02:40 |
| Eickmeyer | Cool. | 02:41 |
| Eickmeyer | I just got done removing the standalone jack clients from the lsp-plugins. They required a shared object in /usr/lib and that's a huge no-no. vorlon wasn't letting it into the archive based on that alone. | 02:42 |
| OvenWerks | Well, I actually get a new item in my menu... will upload tomorrow. | 05:09 |
| OvenWerks | so far it always starts from scratch. It does not look to see if it already exists and then read in the old one as a template for the new. | 05:10 |
| OvenWerks | Right now, I do a straight cp temp file to new file, I will be doing a line by line save in the future though to look for no show lines and catagories lines to replace them according to user choices. | 05:13 |
| OvenWerks | The show check box is already there (but not yet used). I want to add a dropdown that has all sub menus listed and a second dropdown with any sub sub menus | 05:17 |
| OvenWerks | Coming up with a catarories line that is unique for each is the goal... we may need to change -menu for best results. | 05:20 |
| OvenWerks | I would like to have a window similar to the icon selection window that shows all the desktop files with icon/menu text so that the user can select one of those as the template. | 05:23 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Sweet! Sounds like a big job though. | 05:26 |
| OvenWerks | Well that was silly... I uploaded before commit... so no executable :P | 15:25 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: how do we change: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+git/ubuntustudio-menu-add into a project? (lp:ubuntustudio-menu-add) | 15:56 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks: I will do that in a bit. FYI, I will be out of town and low on communication the next couple of days, but I'll be doing what I can. | 16:01 |
| OvenWerks | no problem, nothing I am doing is urgent | 16:01 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Done. | 16:21 |
| Eickmeyer | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-menu-add/+git | 16:22 |
| OvenWerks | Thank you | 16:24 |
| Eickmeyer | You're quite welcome. | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | You'll have to re-clone that to make sure you have the right upstream. | 16:28 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, I know. | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | :) | 16:29 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I don't know if you will have time to look at menu-add (not sure if that is a good name or not) | 16:59 |
| OvenWerks | when you do... there is a point I am not sure how to deal with | 16:59 |
| Eickmeyer | Nah, my Studio machine is packed in a bag right now. Probably later. | 16:59 |
| * Eickmeyer is waiting for his ride for a 3 hour drive | 17:00 | |
| Eickmeyer | I try to keep my 2-in-1's installation simple. | 17:00 |
| Eickmeyer | With only 2GB of RAM, it has to be. | 17:00 |
| OvenWerks | when you hit save on the editor it just saves to the temp file. then the menu item has to be saved in the main window to be seen | 17:01 |
| OvenWerks | I was thinking of adding a dialog, but people who use the app a lot might get anoyed with that | 17:01 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. MIght cause dialog fatigue. | 17:02 |
| OvenWerks | Maybe I should change the "Save" button in the main window to "Install" | 17:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, but that comes with a bunch of different connotations. | 17:02 |
| OvenWerks | "activate" | 17:03 |
| OvenWerks | ?? | 17:03 |
| OvenWerks | Actually, that may be the best way to go. I could then have a "Deactiveate" to remove something from the users local directory. | 17:05 |
| Eickmeyer | Not bad. | 17:06 |
| Eickmeyer | "Apply"? | 17:06 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: ^ | 17:07 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I think I will add another check button that says "active" | 17:09 |
| Eickmeyer | That might work. | 17:10 |
| OvenWerks | Apply also has the wrong idea for me. | 17:10 |
| Eickmeyer | ok | 17:10 |
| OvenWerks | I want to have a file selector that lists users made menu items (anything in ~/.local/share/appliacations) | 17:11 |
| OvenWerks | That way the user can choose from those to edit or deactivate | 17:12 |
| OvenWerks | The question is, should a deacivated item still be saved? I guess so, deactivate would rename from base.desktop to base.saved | 17:13 |
| Eickmeyer | I think so. | 17:13 |
| OvenWerks | exo-desktop-item-edit requires something that is called base.desktop I think, so I still have to start with a temporary file.... I will try with an odd named file. | 17:16 |
| Eickmeyer | So, touch base.desktop? | 17:23 |
| OvenWerks | I actually put some things in there to begin | 17:36 |
| OvenWerks | exo-desktop-item-edit requires -c to create but I want to be able to edit already active files and I want to be able to add catagories and don't show and... | 17:37 |
| OvenWerks | so I create a base.desktop in .config that I send exo-desktop-item-edit to. Then copy to final on save... but that will change. | 17:39 |
| OvenWerks | I had the save button so that the person could change the catagories and shown after editing and then save it.... I will set it up so that any change save anyway. | 17:40 |
| OvenWerks | I will need to check the file to make sure it has a name and exec (or url). | 17:42 |
| OvenWerks | trying to make it active without will give an error dialog | 17:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, early stages, I guess. | 18:08 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: in menu_add... should there be a checkbox to add the desktop file to the desktop? I just thought of this one... I was going to just add the word desktop to the menu folder choices, but really even a desktop icon should have reasonable catagories and also show up in the menu.... execpt, I have also added the possibility to create a link as well as an application and maybe a link | 21:15 |
| OvenWerks | really belongs only on the desktop. Should I even allow Links at this stage? | 21:15 |
| OvenWerks | Hmm that may be too long a message, it may be missing the last part of the top line. | 21:16 |
| OvenWerks | I understand you are on the road so I am not expecting a quick reply. | 21:16 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: Answered my own question, the user can create urls on their desktop by just dragging them from the browser... and the application is a menu item creater. | 21:42 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah. Last I checked that works in pretty much all desktops. | 23:08 |
| * Eickmeyer[m] is in Pasco | 23:08 | |
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