[01:34] Eickmeyer: http://i.imgur.com/fpxGVwV.png [01:35] OvenWerks: So, is the filename absolute path? [01:36] The filename is only text, no path, no extension. The .desktop will get added and the file placed in ~/.local/share/applications/ [01:36] That will over ride anything [01:38] Okay, that makes sense. So, should it say filename, or application name? I'm just trying to think from a user perspective. [01:39] People aren't going to necessarily understand the term "Desktop File" especially if they are coming from Mac or Windows. [01:39] if there are no spaces application name is ok... but really if the user wants to override a system file it has to have the same name. [01:41] Also, people are used to not being able to use any odd character in a file name [01:42] Fair enough. [01:43] I actually put the file detection in with the wrong button (edit) when it should be (save) [01:45] my idea is to create a temp file with a copy of the original file (if it exists) or a template (if it doesn't) and use that to call exo-desktop-item-edit [01:46] Then when that exits and save is pressed, The temp file is copied on top of the original or created. [01:47] Yeah, that's a great idea. Keeps it non-destructive until finalized. [01:47] Hmm, I guess I need a "remove" button. not sure what to call it, that removes the file from ~/.local/share/applications/ and lets the system file work. [01:48] Anyway, I want to get it working first... right now the about button works :) [02:40] Well, that's a start. :) [02:40] When it can at least make a file I will upload it [02:41] Cool. [02:42] I just got done removing the standalone jack clients from the lsp-plugins. They required a shared object in /usr/lib and that's a huge no-no. vorlon wasn't letting it into the archive based on that alone. [05:09] Well, I actually get a new item in my menu... will upload tomorrow. [05:10] so far it always starts from scratch. It does not look to see if it already exists and then read in the old one as a template for the new. [05:13] Right now, I do a straight cp temp file to new file, I will be doing a line by line save in the future though to look for no show lines and catagories lines to replace them according to user choices. [05:17] The show check box is already there (but not yet used). I want to add a dropdown that has all sub menus listed and a second dropdown with any sub sub menus [05:20] Coming up with a catarories line that is unique for each is the goal... we may need to change -menu for best results. [05:23] I would like to have a window similar to the icon selection window that shows all the desktop files with icon/menu text so that the user can select one of those as the template. [05:26] Sweet! Sounds like a big job though. [15:25] Well that was silly... I uploaded before commit... so no executable :P [15:56] Eickmeyer: how do we change: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+git/ubuntustudio-menu-add into a project? (lp:ubuntustudio-menu-add) [16:01] OvenWerks: I will do that in a bit. FYI, I will be out of town and low on communication the next couple of days, but I'll be doing what I can. [16:01] no problem, nothing I am doing is urgent [16:21] OvenWerks: Done. [16:22] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-menu-add/+git [16:24] Thank you [16:28] You're quite welcome. [16:28] You'll have to re-clone that to make sure you have the right upstream. [16:28] Ya, I know. [16:29] :) [16:59] Eickmeyer: I don't know if you will have time to look at menu-add (not sure if that is a good name or not) [16:59] when you do... there is a point I am not sure how to deal with [16:59] Nah, my Studio machine is packed in a bag right now. Probably later. [17:00] * Eickmeyer is waiting for his ride for a 3 hour drive [17:00] I try to keep my 2-in-1's installation simple. [17:00] With only 2GB of RAM, it has to be. [17:01] when you hit save on the editor it just saves to the temp file. then the menu item has to be saved in the main window to be seen [17:01] I was thinking of adding a dialog, but people who use the app a lot might get anoyed with that [17:02] Yeah. MIght cause dialog fatigue. [17:02] Maybe I should change the "Save" button in the main window to "Install" [17:02] Yeah, but that comes with a bunch of different connotations. [17:03] "activate" [17:03] ?? [17:05] Actually, that may be the best way to go. I could then have a "Deactiveate" to remove something from the users local directory. [17:06] Not bad. [17:06] "Apply"? [17:07] OvenWerks: ^ [17:09] Eickmeyer: I think I will add another check button that says "active" [17:10] That might work. [17:10] Apply also has the wrong idea for me. [17:10] ok [17:11] I want to have a file selector that lists users made menu items (anything in ~/.local/share/appliacations) [17:12] That way the user can choose from those to edit or deactivate [17:13] The question is, should a deacivated item still be saved? I guess so, deactivate would rename from base.desktop to base.saved [17:13] I think so. [17:16] exo-desktop-item-edit requires something that is called base.desktop I think, so I still have to start with a temporary file.... I will try with an odd named file. [17:23] So, touch base.desktop? [17:36] I actually put some things in there to begin [17:37] exo-desktop-item-edit requires -c to create but I want to be able to edit already active files and I want to be able to add catagories and don't show and... [17:39] so I create a base.desktop in .config that I send exo-desktop-item-edit to. Then copy to final on save... but that will change. [17:40] I had the save button so that the person could change the catagories and shown after editing and then save it.... I will set it up so that any change save anyway. [17:42] I will need to check the file to make sure it has a name and exec (or url). [17:42] trying to make it active without will give an error dialog [18:08] Well, early stages, I guess. [21:15] Eickmeyer: in menu_add... should there be a checkbox to add the desktop file to the desktop? I just thought of this one... I was going to just add the word desktop to the menu folder choices, but really even a desktop icon should have reasonable catagories and also show up in the menu.... execpt, I have also added the possibility to create a link as well as an application and maybe a link [21:15] really belongs only on the desktop. Should I even allow Links at this stage? [21:16] Hmm that may be too long a message, it may be missing the last part of the top line. [21:16] I understand you are on the road so I am not expecting a quick reply. [21:42] Eickmeyer: Answered my own question, the user can create urls on their desktop by just dragging them from the browser... and the application is a menu item creater. [23:08] Yeah. Last I checked that works in pretty much all desktops. [23:08] * Eickmeyer[m] is in Pasco