| === caraka_ is now known as caraka | ||
| LargePrime | hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indicator applets" adds an item it adds a huge number of the launched applications icons appear. if i right click and disable "indicator applications" and then re check it, only one icon appears. | 01:44 |
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| LargePrime | please advise | 01:45 |
| u0_a93 | l | 02:35 |
| lubot | jistake was added by: jistake | 08:08 |
| kwelch | quit | 19:02 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Why? | 19:07 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @Guest78205 [<Guest78205> will i found it thanks for your help i realy apreciate it], Use discover or package manager GUI. JUST IN CASE. 😁 | 19:09 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @LargePrime [<LargePrime> hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indic …], Got a screenshot or a video? | 19:10 |
| === lalit is now known as lalitmee | ||
| tpw_rules | hey, i'm trying to install lubuntu 18.04 on my lenovo P52. I boot off the live USB, I see the Lubuntu screen with the five dots, a brief flash of command window, then a black screen | 20:03 |
| wxl | did you check the hashes of the iso? | 20:04 |
| tpw_rules | it verified that the USB matches the ISO, but i'm running the "check disk for defects" right now | 20:05 |
| tpw_rules | oh, it did say it found an errorr | 20:06 |
| tpw_rules | but not in which file | 20:06 |
| wxl | yeah, because that's kind of a complicated issue to resolve even if you know what file it is | 20:06 |
| wxl | the iso is technically a whole entire filesystem | 20:07 |
| wxl | except it's contained in a file | 20:07 |
| wxl | and then you bit to bit copy it to your installation media | 20:07 |
| wxl | not the same as a normal file | 20:07 |
| tpw_rules | yup, the iso i downloaded is bad. weird | 20:07 |
| wxl | not weird | 20:07 |
| wxl | download/copy errors are normal | 20:07 |
| wxl | this is why people publish hashes and have error checking mechanisms | 20:07 |
| wxl | torrents do them by default | 20:08 |
| wxl | *hint*hint* | 20:08 |
| wxl | well, they do the download error checking | 20:08 |
| tpw_rules | i would if i could torrent on campius | 20:08 |
| wxl | the copy error checking can only really be done by the check disc for defects | 20:08 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | tpw_rules: try nomodeset mode | 20:08 |
| wxl | or you could run a hash check, but you'd need to run it through dd which is complicated | 20:08 |
| tpw_rules | yeah i hashed it after i flashed it, i usually do | 20:09 |
| tpw_rules | and that matched | 20:09 |
| wxl | JohnDoe_71Rus: they have verified the installation media is defective so that may or may not fix the problem and there are still potentially further problems | 20:09 |
| tpw_rules | is lubuntu 18.04 LTS like regular ubuntu 18.04 is? | 20:09 |
| wxl | yes and no. the support length for flavor LTS's are usually shorter than for ubuntu | 20:10 |
| wxl | 18.04 is run off of LXDE, which is a project with very little life left in it | 20:10 |
| wxl | we're now using LXQt which is much more actively maintained | 20:10 |
| wxl | so even though it's not an "LTS," i'd say you will have a much better experience with 19.04 | 20:10 |
| tpw_rules | i have to install kernel patches which claim to only work on 18.04 | 20:11 |
| wxl | you have to use an old kernel? boo. | 20:11 |
| tpw_rules | i mean not insanely old, but not 5 | 20:11 |
| tpw_rules | i need 4.16 | 20:12 |
| tpw_rules | how similar is lxde to lxqt? i really like lxde | 20:12 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | wxl: i test kernel >4.15 and have similar problem with radeon rx560. Black screen with cursor in the coner. But system not freeze or hang, can be turned off by power button | 20:12 |
| tpw_rules | i don't even get a cursor. but i will see what this image does, after properly verifying it | 20:12 |
| wxl | JohnDoe_71Rus: if the installation media is faulty, it doesn't matter. | 20:12 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: lxqt was created by some core lxde folks, including the pcman behind pcmanfm, so there's a lot of similarity | 20:13 |
| tpw_rules | well that's good | 20:14 |
| tpw_rules | same behavior, i'll try nomodeset | 20:16 |
| tpw_rules | oh man grub is so slow on 4k | 20:17 |
| tpw_rules | ok now i at least get a cursor | 20:18 |
| tpw_rules | but it still hangs | 20:18 |
| wxl | can you get virtual terminals? | 20:18 |
| tpw_rules | no | 20:18 |
| tpw_rules | the power button does nothing either | 20:19 |
| wxl | and you said 19.04 did or didn't work? | 20:19 |
| tpw_rules | i can't use 19.04 because it's not compatible with the hardware i need to install linux for | 20:19 |
| tpw_rules | i could try it, but it would be kind of a waste of time | 20:19 |
| wxl | i don't think so. i've had some graphics issues before in 18.04 that i didn't have in later (or for that matter, previous) releases | 20:20 |
| tpw_rules | sure but if it worked, then i couldn't use it anyway | 20:20 |
| tpw_rules | does the alternate iso boot into a text mode installer? | 20:20 |
| tpw_rules | lemme try that one | 20:22 |
| ilhami | hello. | 20:22 |
| tpw_rules | hi | 20:22 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Hi | 20:23 |
| ilhami | I am trying out Quassel IRC client xD | 20:24 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Any upgrade guide? From 18.04 to 19.04? | 20:24 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @ilhami [<ilhami> I am trying out Quassel IRC client xD], 🆗 | 20:25 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Any issues you are facing? | 20:25 |
| tpw_rules | what kernel does lubuntu 18.10 have? | 20:26 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Great question, what's the purpose of asking? | 20:26 |
| tpw_rules | so that i can see if i can use my driver | 20:28 |
| tpw_rules | also is lubuntu.me dead? | 20:28 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @tpw_rules [<tpw_rules> so that i can see if i can use my driver], I think you got to search the official website. I'm not sure | 20:32 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @tpw_rules [<tpw_rules> also is lubuntu.me dead?], Send like offline. | 20:33 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Seems** | 20:33 |
| tpw_rules | bah the alternate iso doesn't even boot into the check integrity menu | 20:36 |
| tpw_rules | well hopefully 18.10 has a kernel i can make work | 20:36 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> @tpw_rules [<tpw_rules> well hopefully 18.10 has a kernel i can make work], What are you trying to make work? What driver? | 20:38 |
| tpw_rules | intel realsense | 20:40 |
| lubot | <IndianOSR911> Ok not sure. I haven't tried it. Best of luck. | 20:42 |
| tpw_rules | wxl: i'm still not having any luck getting video | 20:57 |
| wxl | lubuntu.me is back up | 21:01 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: send me some info on what you need to do with the kernel modules? | 21:01 |
| tpw_rules | i'm trying to install the realsense drivers which require patches to the uvc kernel modules | 21:01 |
| tpw_rules | but regardless, 18.10 isn't giving me video either so | 21:01 |
| tpw_rules | i've got the command prompt off the mini.iso working | 21:02 |
| wxl | and no virtual terminals again? | 21:02 |
| tpw_rules | no | 21:03 |
| tpw_rules | i did get an interesting message about how all my cpu cores were too hot and they were being throttled | 21:03 |
| wxl | THAT would explain a lot | 21:03 |
| tpw_rules | but just once, and like i said the command line is working fine | 21:03 |
| tpw_rules | and also the computer isn't overheating | 21:04 |
| wxl | but your sensors might be fubar'd | 21:04 |
| tpw_rules | it runs windows just fine | 21:04 |
| tpw_rules | i've used the sensors in windows | 21:04 |
| wxl | maybe windows has some weird code to workaround misbehaving or non-standard sensors | 21:05 |
| tpw_rules | Intel® Xeon® E-2176M processor, nvidia quadro p2000 graphic | 21:05 |
| tpw_rules | s | 21:05 |
| wxl | or maybe it's all proprietary and this is a case where reverse engineering fails | 21:05 |
| tpw_rules | is there any way to switch that off with a kernel command line option | 21:06 |
| wxl | probably but it would require searching.. i've never had to btoher | 21:07 |
| LargePrime | lubot, how do i ping indianosr911 | 21:09 |
| wxl | LargePrime: you can @ their username | 21:10 |
| LargePrime | @indianosr911 where should i put the pic | 21:10 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html | 21:11 |
| wxl | i'll leave it to you to wade through that | 21:11 |
| wxl | alternately maybe check in at ##linux | 21:12 |
| tpw_rules | well i installed from mini.iso and it's working fine | 21:12 |
| tpw_rules | i'll see if i can install the desktop | 21:12 |
| LargePrime | https://ibb.co/nzq1n3B @indianosr911 | 21:12 |
| LargePrime | hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indicator applets" adds an item it adds a huge number of the launched applications icons appear. if i right click and disable "indicator applications" and then re check it, only one icon appears. | 21:12 |
| LargePrime | please advise | 21:13 |
| LargePrime | https://ibb.co/nzq1n3B | 21:13 |
| wxl | LargePrime: which lubuntu is that? | 21:13 |
| LargePrime | THE lubuntu | 21:14 |
| * wxl facepalms | 21:14 | |
| tpw_rules | wxl: in fairness it only does it once, then it says speed normal right after in dmesg | 21:14 |
| tpw_rules | maybe it's just confused as it boots | 21:14 |
| LargePrime | wxl you need a uname thing right? | 21:14 |
| wxl | LargePrime: lsb_release | 21:15 |
| tpw_rules | yall just need to patch uname cause that's the only command i remember :P | 21:15 |
| LargePrime | No LSB modules are available. | 21:15 |
| wxl | sounds like pebkac to me | 21:15 |
| wxl | LargePrime: sounds like you got something broken. | 21:16 |
| LargePrime | i guessed | 21:16 |
| LargePrime | thoughts on debreaking? | 21:18 |
| wxl | without even knowing the version it's rather problamtic | 21:19 |
| wxl | pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list | 21:19 |
| LargePrime | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qpmsqtsfvK/ | 21:21 |
| LargePrime | wxl | 21:22 |
| wxl | looks like you're on bionic | 21:22 |
| LargePrime | yep | 21:22 |
| wxl | ah, i guess bionic is weird. lsb_release -a would have got you waht you wanted | 21:26 |
| LargePrime | Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS | 21:27 |
| tpw_rules | wxl: so i installed lubuntu-desktop form the command line install and keyboard doesn't work. but the touchscreen does but i can't log in | 21:27 |
| tpw_rules | i hate computers | 21:27 |
| LargePrime | so nothing was broken wxl | 21:29 |
| wxl | LargePrime: nothing obvious, no | 21:29 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: what sort of keyboard? laptop keyboard? | 21:29 |
| tpw_rules | yes | 21:29 |
| tpw_rules | but a usb one doesn't work either | 21:29 |
| tpw_rules | everybody said the trackpad would be broken but it works fine | 21:29 |
| LargePrime | wxl in that pic is a live patch icon. any thougghts on how to remove it? | 21:30 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: try upgrading the system | 21:32 |
| tpw_rules | it's as upgraded as possible, i just installed it form network | 21:32 |
| wxl | so it's not upgraded then | 21:32 |
| tpw_rules | how could it not be upgraded | 21:32 |
| wxl | see for yourself | 21:33 |
| tpw_rules | i did, there are no updates | 21:33 |
| wxl | LargePrime: i think your only solution is to eliminate the indicator applets | 21:33 |
| wxl | tpw_rules: i'm stumped with whatever weird problem you're having. might try ##linux or #ubuntu | 21:34 |
| tpw_rules | what does the 18.10 lubuntu alternate iso do differently from the standard | 21:34 |
| tpw_rules | or rather 18.04 | 21:34 |
| wxl | uses a curses installer rather than a graphical one | 21:35 |
| wxl | which means it doesn't boot to a live system first | 21:35 |
| tpw_rules | well it seems there are issues on my model with the hybrid graphics system | 21:46 |
| tpw_rules | so time to install it legitimately | 21:46 |
| wxl | what's the solution? | 21:46 |
| tpw_rules | turn it off in bios | 21:46 |
| tpw_rules | at least until you install the correct drivers | 21:46 |
| wxl | oh | 21:46 |
| wxl | weird. lame. | 21:46 |
| wxl | proprietary i'm assuming? | 21:46 |
| tpw_rules | what do you mean? | 21:47 |
| wxl | meaning they're not available through the ubuntu repos but you have to get them from the manufacturer? | 21:47 |
| tpw_rules | it's an nvidia card, there's a ppa | 21:47 |
| tpw_rules | btw uh does lxqt support hidpi | 21:47 |
| wxl | i think so if i read correctly https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/916 | 21:50 |
| tpw_rules | yeah some things aren't quite right but it looks to work well enough | 21:54 |
| tpw_rules | taskbar and mouse cursor are too small | 21:54 |
| tpw_rules | i think ima do ubuntu instead then. it's been "fun". sad it was so difficult | 21:59 |
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