=== caraka_ is now known as caraka [01:44] hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indicator applets" adds an item it adds a huge number of the launched applications icons appear. if i right click and disable "indicator applications" and then re check it, only one icon appears. [01:45] please advise [02:35] l [08:08] jistake was added by: jistake [19:02] quit [19:07] Why? [19:09] @Guest78205 [ will i found it thanks for your help i realy apreciate it], Use discover or package manager GUI. JUST IN CASE. 😁 [19:10] @LargePrime [ hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indic …], Got a screenshot or a video? === lalit is now known as lalitmee [20:03] hey, i'm trying to install lubuntu 18.04 on my lenovo P52. I boot off the live USB, I see the Lubuntu screen with the five dots, a brief flash of command window, then a black screen [20:04] did you check the hashes of the iso? [20:05] it verified that the USB matches the ISO, but i'm running the "check disk for defects" right now [20:06] oh, it did say it found an errorr [20:06] but not in which file [20:06] yeah, because that's kind of a complicated issue to resolve even if you know what file it is [20:07] the iso is technically a whole entire filesystem [20:07] except it's contained in a file [20:07] and then you bit to bit copy it to your installation media [20:07] not the same as a normal file [20:07] yup, the iso i downloaded is bad. weird [20:07] not weird [20:07] download/copy errors are normal [20:07] this is why people publish hashes and have error checking mechanisms [20:08] torrents do them by default [20:08] *hint*hint* [20:08] well, they do the download error checking [20:08] i would if i could torrent on campius [20:08] the copy error checking can only really be done by the check disc for defects [20:08] tpw_rules: try nomodeset mode [20:08] or you could run a hash check, but you'd need to run it through dd which is complicated [20:09] yeah i hashed it after i flashed it, i usually do [20:09] and that matched [20:09] JohnDoe_71Rus: they have verified the installation media is defective so that may or may not fix the problem and there are still potentially further problems [20:09] is lubuntu 18.04 LTS like regular ubuntu 18.04 is? [20:10] yes and no. the support length for flavor LTS's are usually shorter than for ubuntu [20:10] 18.04 is run off of LXDE, which is a project with very little life left in it [20:10] we're now using LXQt which is much more actively maintained [20:10] so even though it's not an "LTS," i'd say you will have a much better experience with 19.04 [20:11] i have to install kernel patches which claim to only work on 18.04 [20:11] you have to use an old kernel? boo. [20:11] i mean not insanely old, but not 5 [20:12] i need 4.16 [20:12] how similar is lxde to lxqt? i really like lxde [20:12] wxl: i test kernel >4.15 and have similar problem with radeon rx560. Black screen with cursor in the coner. But system not freeze or hang, can be turned off by power button [20:12] i don't even get a cursor. but i will see what this image does, after properly verifying it [20:12] JohnDoe_71Rus: if the installation media is faulty, it doesn't matter. [20:13] tpw_rules: lxqt was created by some core lxde folks, including the pcman behind pcmanfm, so there's a lot of similarity [20:14] well that's good [20:16] same behavior, i'll try nomodeset [20:17] oh man grub is so slow on 4k [20:18] ok now i at least get a cursor [20:18] but it still hangs [20:18] can you get virtual terminals? [20:18] no [20:19] the power button does nothing either [20:19] and you said 19.04 did or didn't work? [20:19] i can't use 19.04 because it's not compatible with the hardware i need to install linux for [20:19] i could try it, but it would be kind of a waste of time [20:20] i don't think so. i've had some graphics issues before in 18.04 that i didn't have in later (or for that matter, previous) releases [20:20] sure but if it worked, then i couldn't use it anyway [20:20] does the alternate iso boot into a text mode installer? [20:22] lemme try that one [20:22] hello. [20:22] hi [20:23] Hi [20:24] I am trying out Quassel IRC client xD [20:24] Any upgrade guide? From 18.04 to 19.04? [20:25] @ilhami [ I am trying out Quassel IRC client xD], 🆗 [20:25] Any issues you are facing? [20:26] what kernel does lubuntu 18.10 have? [20:26] Great question, what's the purpose of asking? [20:28] so that i can see if i can use my driver [20:28] also is lubuntu.me dead? [20:32] @tpw_rules [ so that i can see if i can use my driver], I think you got to search the official website. I'm not sure [20:33] @tpw_rules [ also is lubuntu.me dead?], Send like offline. [20:33] Seems** [20:36] bah the alternate iso doesn't even boot into the check integrity menu [20:36] well hopefully 18.10 has a kernel i can make work [20:38] @tpw_rules [ well hopefully 18.10 has a kernel i can make work], What are you trying to make work? What driver? [20:40] intel realsense [20:42] Ok not sure. I haven't tried it. Best of luck. [20:57] wxl: i'm still not having any luck getting video [21:01] lubuntu.me is back up [21:01] tpw_rules: send me some info on what you need to do with the kernel modules? [21:01] i'm trying to install the realsense drivers which require patches to the uvc kernel modules [21:01] but regardless, 18.10 isn't giving me video either so [21:02] i've got the command prompt off the mini.iso working [21:02] and no virtual terminals again? [21:03] no [21:03] i did get an interesting message about how all my cpu cores were too hot and they were being throttled [21:03] THAT would explain a lot [21:03] but just once, and like i said the command line is working fine [21:04] and also the computer isn't overheating [21:04] but your sensors might be fubar'd [21:04] it runs windows just fine [21:04] i've used the sensors in windows [21:05] maybe windows has some weird code to workaround misbehaving or non-standard sensors [21:05] Intel® Xeon® E-2176M processor, nvidia quadro p2000 graphic [21:05] s [21:05] or maybe it's all proprietary and this is a case where reverse engineering fails [21:06] is there any way to switch that off with a kernel command line option [21:07] probably but it would require searching.. i've never had to btoher [21:09] lubot, how do i ping indianosr911 [21:10] LargePrime: you can @ their username [21:10] @indianosr911 where should i put the pic [21:11] tpw_rules: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html [21:11] i'll leave it to you to wade through that [21:12] alternately maybe check in at ##linux [21:12] well i installed from mini.iso and it's working fine [21:12] i'll see if i can install the desktop [21:12] https://ibb.co/nzq1n3B @indianosr911 [21:12] hi. i got a weird problem. when applications with an item in "indicator applets" adds an item it adds a huge number of the launched applications icons appear. if i right click and disable "indicator applications" and then re check it, only one icon appears. [21:13] please advise [21:13] https://ibb.co/nzq1n3B [21:13] LargePrime: which lubuntu is that? [21:14] THE lubuntu [21:14] * wxl facepalms [21:14] wxl: in fairness it only does it once, then it says speed normal right after in dmesg [21:14] maybe it's just confused as it boots [21:14] wxl you need a uname thing right? [21:15] LargePrime: lsb_release [21:15] yall just need to patch uname cause that's the only command i remember :P [21:15] No LSB modules are available. [21:15] sounds like pebkac to me [21:16] LargePrime: sounds like you got something broken. [21:16] i guessed [21:18] thoughts on debreaking? [21:19] without even knowing the version it's rather problamtic [21:19] pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list [21:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qpmsqtsfvK/ [21:22] wxl [21:22] looks like you're on bionic [21:22] yep [21:26] ah, i guess bionic is weird. lsb_release -a would have got you waht you wanted [21:27] Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS [21:27] wxl: so i installed lubuntu-desktop form the command line install and keyboard doesn't work. but the touchscreen does but i can't log in [21:27] i hate computers [21:29] so nothing was broken wxl [21:29] LargePrime: nothing obvious, no [21:29] tpw_rules: what sort of keyboard? laptop keyboard? [21:29] yes [21:29] but a usb one doesn't work either [21:29] everybody said the trackpad would be broken but it works fine [21:30] wxl in that pic is a live patch icon. any thougghts on how to remove it? [21:32] tpw_rules: try upgrading the system [21:32] it's as upgraded as possible, i just installed it form network [21:32] so it's not upgraded then [21:32] how could it not be upgraded [21:33] see for yourself [21:33] i did, there are no updates [21:33] LargePrime: i think your only solution is to eliminate the indicator applets [21:34] tpw_rules: i'm stumped with whatever weird problem you're having. might try ##linux or #ubuntu [21:34] what does the 18.10 lubuntu alternate iso do differently from the standard [21:34] or rather 18.04 [21:35] uses a curses installer rather than a graphical one [21:35] which means it doesn't boot to a live system first [21:46] well it seems there are issues on my model with the hybrid graphics system [21:46] so time to install it legitimately [21:46] what's the solution? [21:46] turn it off in bios [21:46] at least until you install the correct drivers [21:46] oh [21:46] weird. lame. [21:46] proprietary i'm assuming? [21:47] what do you mean? [21:47] meaning they're not available through the ubuntu repos but you have to get them from the manufacturer? [21:47] it's an nvidia card, there's a ppa [21:47] btw uh does lxqt support hidpi [21:50] i think so if i read correctly https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/916 [21:54] yeah some things aren't quite right but it looks to work well enough [21:54] taskbar and mouse cursor are too small [21:59] i think ima do ubuntu instead then. it's been "fun". sad it was so difficult