| viewer|57 | hello all! Is there a form of textmode install for kubuntu (18 LTS)? I am trying to install but the installer doesn't work on my screen, a UHD/UWS Samsung monitor. | 06:21 |
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| viewer|57 | Is there some way to start wayland right away during install? | 06:21 |
| viewer|57 | or some way to not be directly booted into an invisible session? | 06:25 |
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| Wiz | hi, can"t get my hdmi audio to work when plugged on a tv, with kubuntu 18.10 and 19.04, works fine on windows... Nvidia GTX 1050 Mobile. Anyone familiar with that ? | 07:43 |
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| meven | Wiz: What have you tried ? Did you have a look in the settings : mulimedia > audio volume, if your HDMI chipset is recognized you should see it | 09:16 |
| meven | in the available output list | 09:17 |
| Wiz | meven, I looked at the audio volume. In the output tab, I only see the internal speakers and the headset (shown as not plugged, which is true). | 10:00 |
| Wiz | meven: I do not see an HDMI output in this tab | 10:00 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, pavucontrol > configue > prifile > digital hdmi ... | 10:02 |
| diogenes_ | configure* > profile* | 10:02 |
| Wiz | meven: when I go to the configuration tab and look at the hdmi profiles, they are all reported as not available | 10:02 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: this is what I just said above, hdmi profiles listed as not available / unplugged, when selecting any of them, no audio | 10:04 |
| Wiz | (I am using kubuntu and that is the qt version of pavucontrol) | 10:05 |
| diogenes_ | is it a fresh install? | 10:06 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: nope, upgrade from 18.10, where I had the same problem | 10:06 |
| Wiz | using nvidia drivers | 10:06 |
| diogenes_ | i would try 19.04 boot live off of a usb drive. | 10:07 |
| Wiz | I cannot do it, because when I try the live (adding "nomodeset" on grub so that the pc does not freeze), it freezes when I use "live session" instead of the install | 10:08 |
| NoCode | Is there anyway to treat Latte Dock as just a dock for icons without notifications/window tasks? | 10:09 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, but have you tried the newest 19.04? and is still freezes? | 10:10 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: it just reminds me I did a fresh install (on another partition) to test 19.04 before upgrading my usual one. I had the same issue with hdmi audio and broke the system when trying to fix it, following instructions on a website | 10:10 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, what i mean is you to try hdmi with oss drivers, nouveau and see that maybe with nouveau it works instead of proprietary nvidia. | 10:11 |
| diogenes_ | for me nouveau works fine. | 10:12 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: the newest 19.04 (official release of end april) does freeze when booting the usb drive as is. Need a nomodeset, and then from memory, installing on hard drive works, but selecting "try it" does freeze the display (terminals can be opened and have commands run) | 10:12 |
| Wiz | what is the oss drivers ? | 10:12 |
| diogenes_ | in linux, nvidia cards run by default on the oss (open-source) driver called nouveau | 10:13 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: with nouveau I think there was problems : can set the light, cpu running very high when viewing videos | 10:13 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: oh ok, I did not know oss stood for open source, sorry | 10:13 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, that's already a second question, the first task is to verify if your hdmi works under nouveau. | 10:13 |
| diogenes_ | i mean without installing any nvidia drivers. | 10:14 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: I can relaunch a fresh install (unless I can boot on the live usb) and test nouveau driver for the hdmi | 10:14 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, that would be a good idea also, for testing purpuse, you can fire up a fedora 30 live iso too because they are on the leading edge with drivers and kernels and so on. | 10:15 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: never tried it. I can launch download, but it will take some time... low dsl here, fiber is coming, but not before the end of the year... The fiber itself is in front of my land since feb... | 10:17 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: download started... | 10:19 |
| Wiz | brb | 10:20 |
| NoCode | As weird as this sounds, Plasma/KDE reminds me ofoldGnome. Can't stand Gnome-3, and I did for a couple years until I bought this off-lease $400 laptop and put another distro on it, and noticed how fast KDE/Plasma was. So I switched to KDE/Plasma on my Desktop | 10:20 |
| NoCode | Though, I am starting to see little hiccups. Like currently, I searched for an Aurorae theme in the discovery window thing, and it's still searching which looks to be NIL results and no way to stop it | 10:21 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:27 |
| jubo2 | hello and thanks for the awesome OS for humans | 10:41 |
| jubo2 | got a problem. When plugging in a NTFS partition and trying to mount it via automatics says "malformed URL..." and I cannot mount the volume via the GUI | 10:42 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, run sudo blkid with the drive plugged in and add the NTFS UUID to fstab | 10:45 |
| jubo2 | tried the same with another Kubuntu .. same thing "Malformed URL.." (rest of the text does not display due to the small size of the popup | 10:45 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: uhh.. are you sure that is the way to go | 10:47 |
| jubo2 | I mean fstab entry just for a spare HDD I use to stash backups of stuff | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, depends is it a separate drive or just a partition, and if it's just temporary or is it a permanent ? | 10:48 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: It is the only partition on a disk I am attaching via USB3-to-SATAIII connector | 10:49 |
| jubo2 | I'd just like to mount it ad-hoc, copy files, unmount and safely remove | 10:49 |
| jubo2 | but something broki | 10:49 |
| jubo2 | .. broke this | 10:49 |
| jubo2 | and I'm a bit worried if the next HDD I'm plugging in will go to error too | 10:50 |
| jubo2 | Like sometimes people would like to KEEP the contents of the HDDs | 10:50 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: I don't want to automount it (via /etc/fstab), but I would just like the disk to come back to normal operation | 10:51 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, try a different usb port, sometimes that works on newer machines usb3.0 vs 2.problems | 10:51 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Tried 2 on this machine and one on the ohter | 10:51 |
| jubo2 | not an USB problem | 10:51 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: "Malformed URL" it says when I try to plug it in and choose open with Dolphin | 10:53 |
| jubo2 | I want to rescue this disk | 10:53 |
| jubo2 | .. coz it got valuables on it | 10:53 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, try live session media and see if the usb mounts thru that ...then you may be able to transfer the files | 10:54 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: The media mounted just fine and now neither of the Kubuntus will mount it | 10:55 |
| BluesKaj | I mean live kubuntu session on a dvd or usb | 10:55 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: ok. I do that. I boot the other machine from Live USB | 10:58 |
| jubo2 | but it not gonna make a differnce since 2 Kubuntus are giving the same error | 10:59 |
| jubo2 | How bad people can be at giving errors "Malformed URL" and that it.. | 10:59 |
| BluesKaj | try it anyway | 11:01 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: same error | 11:07 |
| jubo2 | maybe Kubuntu should come with a warning message "Plugging and unplugging drives to Kubuntu may cause you to lose access to them" .. that's my feeling. I did not do any wrong to the disk afaik | 11:08 |
| jubo2 | This maybe the same bug https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg290663.html | 11:09 |
| jubo2 | Says disks mount just fine with Windows 8 | 11:10 |
| jubo2 | If that is true we should change the warning to "After mounting and unmounting an NTFS partition, you will no longer be able to access it on Linux" | 11:10 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, does it show up in kde partition manager | 11:11 |
| BluesKaj | if so , unmount it if possible | 11:11 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: yeah it shows in KDE partition manager. How do I unmount it? at least it is not mounted under /media/username | 11:13 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, right click on said partition | 11:14 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: uhh.. mount is grayed out. the onlyt thing that could be useful is "edit mount point" | 11:15 |
| jubo2 | I gonna see if it is broken for Windows 7 as well | 11:15 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Windows opens it with no probs | 11:17 |
| NoCode | That reminds me, KDE should deal with LUKS mounted partitions in different manner because it'll suggest that the drive is mounted to a different mount point and throws an error-like message until you enable automatic mounting in "removable devices". Like, it'll say something like, "already mounted on */sr0/ or something like that. I forget what it says. But automatically mounting kinda fixes it. | 11:21 |
| jubo2 | So Linux says "Malformed URL" and no other help with the situation. Now I don't want to plugin any of the disks with actually important stuff, because Linux can just break 'em | 11:21 |
| jubo2 | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 11:21 |
| jubo2 | Usually it ain't Linux that breaks shit .. what do I do? | 11:24 |
| jubo2 | I would just like to make my backups. But if mounting and unmounting NTFS partitions may result in the partition no longer being mountable in Linux, I don't want to plug in any disk | 11:25 |
| NoCode | There's still issues mounting NTFS partitions? >.> I remember that being almost a non-issue about 13 years ago after installing a driver to make it work. | 11:26 |
| jubo2 | So possibly making an NTFS disk with Gparted is not the way to go | 11:27 |
| jubo2 | .. since this happens to the partitions | 11:27 |
| jubo2 | Ok.. I'ma assume Linux does not break EXT4s | 11:28 |
| NoCode | no idea on that. | 11:28 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed...it should be default | 11:29 |
| NoCode | yeah it was that driver! | 11:29 |
| NoCode | I wasn't sure if it was 3g or 3u | 11:29 |
| NoCode | :D | 11:29 |
| jubo2 | ntfs-3g is version 1:2017.3.23-2ubuntu0.18.04.2 | 11:29 |
| NoCode | I remember 3g being experimental | 11:30 |
| NoCode | Years ago | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, that was a while back | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, is windows necessary for your job ? | 11:31 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Linux is very much needed for the job | 11:35 |
| jubo2 | I don't touch Windows unless I really need to | 11:36 |
| jubo2 | Now the situation is becoming worse. An EXT4 external disk also gives "Malformed URL" | 11:36 |
| jubo2 | and two other disks don't say anything... except the other makes beeping noises. I've never heard a HDD beep like this | 11:37 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, you mentioned setting a mount point, maybe giving the moutpoint a name like /media-user or some such might work | 11:37 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: I do not know what broke the normal mounting via GUI | 11:37 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, which kubuntu | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | 18.04.2 | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | All the disks showing life signs all give "Malformed URL" and I am unable to mount them | 11:39 |
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| jubo2 | I'd hate it if this turned out to be "Install everything again or switch to Windows"-type of incident | 11:40 |
| jubo2 | This.. This is not cool | 11:40 |
| jubo2 | Last try with 64GB stick. If this doesn't mount either I have no way of moving files from or to Linux except maybe booting from a live stick | 11:42 |
| BluesKaj | my earlier suggestion | 11:42 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: sorry, which one was that | 11:45 |
| BluesKaj | live media | 11:45 |
| jubo2 | I tried that. Did not helå | 11:45 |
| jubo2 | *help | 11:45 |
| BluesKaj | then why did you just mention it? | 11:46 |
| jubo2 | The USB stick mounted just fine ... but being unable to mount any external HDD is nooooot cool | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | think you may need to search for a bug on 18.04.2 LTS | 11:48 |
| jubo2 | Uhhh.. there are tons of people with this problem it seems https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=kubuntu+says+malformed+url+when+trying+to+mount+a+disk&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | so there must be a fix | 11:53 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: From what I'm seeing it is a Plasma problem. People are reporting the disks are just fine when accessed on a system that does not run KDE | 11:54 |
| jubo2 | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370975 is a looong thread | 11:56 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 370975 in Device Notifier "device notifier pretends it cannot mount usb device while actually mounting it" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 11:56 |
| jubo2 | People are discussing adding a sleep(5) or something like that to make the Plasma bug go away | 11:56 |
| jubo2 | I'd like to know how the Plasma broke, I didn't do any violence to it. | 11:57 |
| jubo2 | The thread says this was patched away in Arch a year ago | 11:58 |
| jubo2 | and this is likely not the right bug. as it says that "pretends it cannot mount usb device while actually...". I mean where would the partitions be mounted if not /media/username/UUID ? | 11:59 |
| jubo2 | this is messed up | 12:00 |
| jubo2 | I like KDE, but if KDE does not work then I prlly need to switch to something else | 12:00 |
| jubo2 | I | 12:00 |
| jubo2 | I'll boot a MINT MATE on the other laptop and see if that sees the partitions fine | 12:00 |
| jubo2 | Yeah. It has no probs detecting and automounting | 12:05 |
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| jubo2 | I was supposed to get stuff done today, but now I am instead wondering how the Plasma broke itself | 12:14 |
| jubo2 | One minute disks are mounted just fine, the next moment no HDD will mount but USB will | 12:14 |
| jubo2 | and the only workaround so far is to use an OS that doesn't use Plasma | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | I'm on plasma here testing Kubuntu 19.10, no probs with usb outboards or sticks or any other devices | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | sometimes all this emphasis on LTS is misplaced, especially when an important bug fix seems buried somewhere | 12:19 |
| jubo2 | Uhhh.. this "something broke the earlier versions, upgrade and cross fingers"-thingy is not cool. I want an OS that just works and doesn't break down by itself | 12:23 |
| NoCode | I had a rough time with 19.04, I thought it was a LTS report. So after tons of errors and stuff, I went back to 18.04, and updated to a mainline kernel. Not optimized, but I wanted the version 19.04 has. | 12:23 |
| jubo2 | I got other obstacles in life, my Linux should not be one of them | 12:23 |
| NoCode | Is there an easier way to get Kubuntu's optimized 19.04 kernel in 18.04 with UKUU or another utility? | 12:24 |
| NoCode | UKUU is pretty nice, but it only offers mainline kernels from kernel.org or whatever. So it's not optimized for Ubuntu. | 12:25 |
| jubo2 | One minute everything is fine and the next one, no more mounting external HDDs for you | 12:28 |
| jubo2 | So ... USB sticks still mount, but no partition on HDD is mountable, except in every other OS, tahn Kubuntu | 12:30 |
| NoCode | Did you verify that kubuntu ISO before using it? | 12:33 |
| jubo2 | NoCode: nope | 12:34 |
| jubo2 | Besides the verification has been broken for a long time iirc .. It complains that "one faulty file found", but does not bother to tell which file would be broken. No fix was found for this one either iirc | 12:35 |
| jubo2 | So the disks are fine as they open nicely in Win7 and Linux Mint MATE, but Kubuntu just stopped working re mounting partitions from external HDDs just quit working today | 12:36 |
| NoCode | uhhh | 12:36 |
| jubo2 | So what should I do.. Buy 512GB USB stick? | 12:36 |
| NoCode | Not sure, but you should verify the ISO you've downloaded and install once it is verified correctly. | 12:38 |
| NoCode | !verify | 12:38 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 12:38 |
| jubo2 | NoCode: oh that one. It is fine | 12:38 |
| jubo2 | I checked it iirc | 12:38 |
| jubo2 | rechecking it now | 12:40 |
| jubo2 | 100% match | 12:41 |
| jubo2 | I'd like the LTS to work. Kinda sucks for the disto if the situation is that something breaks the LTS and then all that can be offered is "upgrade to something even more unstable" | 12:42 |
| NoCode | Maybe you messed something up or maybe your hardware is messed up? | 12:43 |
| jubo2 | NoCode: Oh.. Two hardware broke at the same time in the same way | 12:43 |
| jubo2 | I've tried with 2 machines that have Kubuntu installed on 'em and the Live USB and all of them just say "Malformed URL" | 12:44 |
| NoCode | Ah, no idea. | 12:44 |
| jubo2 | .. this is not cool | 12:45 |
| jubo2 | "Kubuntu is otherwise a nice distro, but you cannot use external HDDs." would the review read atm | 12:45 |
| NoCode | Well, thankful that's only a review from one user while there are thousands | 12:46 |
| jubo2 | Somewhere they are saying that Plasma is not broken, but Dolphin is | 12:47 |
| jubo2 | 'k.. where are the instructions to mount the partitions with something else than the (broken) Dolphin? | 12:48 |
| jubo2 | I didn't break plasma, and I have no idea how to figure out who broke it. I'm not a texy person. | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, don't make generqal statements that are misleading,l you problem is confined to 18.04.2 LTS , not all other Kubuntu disto versions | 12:50 |
| jubo2 | How do we know? | 12:50 |
| jubo2 | I got a 19.04 on the stick. Should I try with that? | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | because I don't have that problem as i mentioned above | 12:51 |
| jubo2 | .. I'll do that. The day is ruined anyways | 12:51 |
| jubo2 | just gotta wait a few minutes for it to finish downloading backups | 12:56 |
| jubo2 | 18.10 is not affected by this bug | 13:05 |
| jubo2 | Did not have 19.04, but 18.10 on the stick | 13:05 |
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| jubo2 | There has gotta be a reasonable way forward. Install new junk and pray it starts working does not sound cool | 13:08 |
| jubo2 | Can I somewhere see a list of what was upgraded last. I mean I ran some upgrades today and have not seen this bug before | 13:09 |
| jubo2 | Coz today I ran 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' so that prlly broke the thing | 13:09 |
| jubo2 | So.. where should I submit a bug report? "Did nothing and suddenly none of external HDD:s in 18.04.2 will mount via Dolphin. Always just complains "Malformed URL" with no additional info." | 13:27 |
| jubo2 | that about all I know about this | 13:27 |
| jubo2 | It was the 'apt upgrade' today I gather .. can I undo that somehow? Maybe I reboot and try an older kernel (I have a faint recollection it installed a new one today) | 13:28 |
| jubo2 | yeah. reboot for older kernel. be back soon. | 13:28 |
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| jubo2 | Hi. Cannot mount external HDDs problem exists only partially with kernel 4.15.0-48-generic | 13:36 |
| jubo2 | One disk it said "Malformed URL", but 'mount' showed that it did get mounted. Another disk opens in Dolphin with no errors | 13:36 |
| jubo2 | So what is the conclusion if Kubuntu with kernel 4.15.0-50 fails to mount external drives and 4.15.0-48 does not fail consistently as the newer one does? | 13:39 |
| jubo2 | What comes to my mind is that the newer kernel introduces some bug. I'm not a texy person so I cannot know for sure, but this is what it looks like | 13:41 |
| jubo2 | Oh this is nice. The unable to mount HDDs stopped exhibiting, but now cryfs is using ~30% of CPU without doing anything | 14:10 |
| jubo2 | just having a vault open draws 20-30% of CPU | 14:11 |
| jubo2 | I can understand it is slow to read or write, but just having a vault open renders Dolphins unresponsive | 14:12 |
| jubo2 | what is kidle_inject and why are there 4 treads of it an all of them are drawing the same amount of CPU. 40% of CPU is used by it | 14:16 |
| jubo2 | According to the internets it is something to stop the CPU from overheating | 14:19 |
| jubo2 | Oh nice.. Stopping CPU from overheating eats 35-40% of CPU. I'm having a really flowered up day today | 14:20 |
| jubo2 | Oh this is even nicer ... 'cp' from CryFS to HDD @ 1MB / s ... 19.2GB will only take several hours | 14:22 |
| jubo2 | Oh well ... No relying on HDDs being able to be connected. IO performance of max 1MB / s and CPU utilization at over 50% when idle. Apparently a Linux these days needs to be installed again and again as frequently as windows in the 90's | 14:25 |
| jubo2 | All of this leads me to think this Linux has been sabotaged | 14:27 |
| jubo2 | I installed as clean as I could a few months ago and idle utilization was 10-15% | 14:27 |
| jubo2 | after a few months idle is at 505 | 14:27 |
| jubo2 | 50% | 14:27 |
| jubo2 | first it copied at ok speed (25MB / s) for 1.6 GB and now it looks like the rest is gonna go for 10 hrs @ 0.5MB / s ... really nice. | 14:30 |
| jubo2 | I'm not a texy person i.e. I don't know all of what is wrong nor how to fix it .. I guess Kubuntu just needs a reinstall every 1 months | 14:31 |
| jubo2 | and the system is half frozen with nothing runnig | 14:35 |
| jubo2 | I'll reboot. Too bad a Linux stays operational only for a few months after its installation | 14:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> jubo2, I have serverl boxes here with a few of them multi-booting multiple versions of Kubuntu & Neon and I have never seen the issue you are experiencing. What is the make/mode your PC? | 14:45 |
| jubo2 | Ok. This Linux is no longer usable | 14:48 |
| jubo2 | Copying from CryFS Vault to HDD starts off at 20 MB / s, but soon moves to a "really usable level of IO" of few hundreds of KB / s write | 14:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | MichaelTunnell was added by: MichaelTunnell | 14:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | ericadams was added by: ericadams | 14:52 |
| jubo2 | It looks like this Linux is never gonna get well. Last time I reinstalled, I did copy the .config .. prlly bringing over something corrupt from the old OS, allowing the attacker to continue to destroy my system | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ericadams> @jubo2, You've mentioned a number of issues you are asserting relate to Kubuntu. I'm not saying that isn't the case but I'm curious if you have tried any other distributions to see if there aren't more general issues you are having or perhaps even hardware based? You linked to a bug report where the poster did eventually state that it was a hardware issue. Again, just curious if you'd have these same issues on another distro or DE. | 15:30 |
| jubo2 | ericadams: I noticed the HDD-issue on Kubuntu 18.04.2 on 2 machines and I did try with other OS, Linux Mint MATE and Windows 7 did not have problems seeing and mounting the disk. Then I notice the problem "goes away" without me changing any settings anywhere.. | 15:37 |
| jubo2 | Kubuntu 18.10 booted from an USB stick had no problem mounting the partitions. | 15:37 |
| jubo2 | I have no idea what is the issue, what started it exhibiting, what stopped it from exhibiting and naturally no clue when it will return | 15:39 |
| jubo2 | When there is this weird things going on one usually starts to think of malicious parties having gained access again | 15:39 |
| analogical | are there different themes available for the Konversation IRC client? | 15:39 |
| jubo2 | How would it be a HW problem if it appears identical on 2 pieces of hardware. How would it not be a problem of this Kubuntu version, if no other OS suffer from it? | 15:40 |
| jubo2 | If I drank alcohol I'd be ~ 1.5‰ long time ago. I was supposed to get stuff done, but then all the day goes into not having a clue, why disk mounting just broke on two 18.04.2s, what the hell "fixed" it and with the "comfortable" feeling of "I don't know if I can mount external HDDs on this system at any point in time." | 15:43 |
| * jubo2 gets a zero.zero beer from the fridge | 15:43 | |
| jubo2 | pro-tip: If you have desparate need of getting drunk, zero beer will give you a bad panic attack | 15:44 |
| jubo2 | So there are 2 alternatives I see: #1 Intruder broke it and #2 apt upgrade broke it. Please if you see more, please do tell | 15:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ericadams> I read a post that said if the person chose the Mount and view in Dolphin option they would get the URL message. If they chose the other option they wouldn't see the message and the drive would show as mounted after a few seconds in Dolphin. Have you tried that by any chance? | 15:49 |
| Wiz | Hi, ran some suggested tests for the hdmi audio output with nvidia, without success... anyone here can help ? | 15:54 |
| Wiz | with nouveau driver : hdmi output (tv) not even detected | 15:54 |
| Wiz | with nvidia driver : hdmi detected, image goes to the tv, but hdmi audio device not detected in pavucontrol | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz, do you have pavucontrol installed? | 15:56 |
| BluesKaj | oops | 15:56 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz, what about alsamixer F6 ? | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | also make sure spdif is enabled | 16:02 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: pavucontrol is installed that is through it that I can see the hdmi output not available | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | yes, i saw that too late, what about the other 2 suggestions? | 16:05 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: alsamixer F6: I see: - (default) | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | is HDMI listed? | 16:07 |
| Wiz | 0 HDA intel PCH | 16:07 |
| Wiz | enter device name | 16:07 |
| Wiz | nope, no HDMI listed | 16:08 |
| Wiz | spdif enabled (00) | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | ok, now check SPDIF in alsamixer | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz, escape from alsamixer | 16:09 |
| Wiz | ok | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | in the terminal, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if the driver loads properly there won't be any output | 16:11 |
| Wiz | bruno@PC-Bruno:~$ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel | 16:11 |
| Wiz | [sudo] Mot de passe de bruno : | 16:11 |
| Wiz | bruno@PC-Bruno:~$ | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | ok so no output | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | that means the audio driver loaded properly | 16:12 |
| Wiz | the nvidia driver does not care about audio ? | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | yes it 's fine | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | now open system settings>hardware>multimedia>audio&video>device preference tab> is HDMI listed? | 16:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> wiz, on my laptop I had to go to Sys settings -> Multimedia -> Audio Volume -> Advanced (tab) and select Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output in the Profile drop down. Do you have that option? | 16:18 |
| BluesKaj | if not, choose the audiovolume tab, click on advanaced the device profile drop down , choose HDMI | 16:18 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: it was not selected, I selected it, and then clicked on "test" on the HDMI, no audio | 16:20 |
| Wiz | DarinMiller: yes I did try that | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz, sometimes the test button is buggy ...i've seen it it before , try playing some audio or video in a player | 16:22 |
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| Wiz | BluesKaj: the hdmi is the only line not grayed, I can select it but not click on apply. Trying audio | 16:23 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: still no audio | 16:24 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz, try the audio volume device tab, make sure it's at least 80% | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | still in system settings>hardware>multimedia>audio volume >devices | 16:28 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: it is at 100% | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | wiz the check you TV input audio/hdmi and make sure the audio volume is set to your source/hdmi | 16:32 |
| BluesKaj | then check your TV | 16:34 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: the hdmi output works fine on the same tv & computer under windows | 16:41 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: I can try again, rebooting, will be back in a few minutes | 16:41 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: back : works fine "out of the box" on windows | 16:51 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: but when I just checked in alsa mixer, s/pdif was muted | 16:54 |
| BluesKaj | that will defintely mute the audio to hdmi | 16:55 |
| Wiz | I unmuted it again | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | wiz well, i have my hdmi video to the TV and the audio looping via optical audio to an audio receiver and all works perfectly | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | Wiz,, what about your alsamixer master and PCM volume ctrls | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | also make sure automute is disabled | 16:59 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: alsa all are up to 100% | 17:01 |
| Wiz | where is the automute ? | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | and automute ? | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | on the far right in alsamixer | 17:01 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: it was enabled | 17:02 |
| Wiz | I disabled it | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | ok , now try | 17:02 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: same :( | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | it's always enabled after new release install or a kernel upgrade...something to remember...reboot | 17:04 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: rebooting | 17:05 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: 1st reboot automute was enabled again, 2nd reboot it remaint disabled | 17:11 |
| Wiz | but still no audio | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | then i'm out of ideas, except check everything again including pavucontrol | 17:12 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: all i tried (about the same as you suggested gave me the same result... none | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | which kubuntu version /release? | 17:13 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: 19.04 | 17:13 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: it was already the same on 18.10 | 17:14 |
| BluesKaj | perhaps I've forgotten something, try asking in #ubuntu | 17:14 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: welcome back ! I tried some of what you suggested and then BluesKaj made me test other things, without success (for hdmi audio output problems) | 17:15 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: yes it might be an idea | 17:15 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, what exactly you have tried? | 17:16 |
| Wiz | BluesKaj: and thanks a lot for your help ! | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | well, I'm all out of ideas, maybe someone else can help you | 17:16 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: booting on live usb : as explained, won't allow me to start a test session, I have to install | 17:16 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: I installed, and with the nouveau driver (nomodeset in the grub in order to boot) : x does not start automatically, I had to open a shell session to launch it | 17:17 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: and when plugging the hdmi in, it is not detected at all | 17:18 |
| diogenes_ | Wiz, ok and how can you make sure the cable is ok? | 17:18 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: so i am never able to test the hdmi audio, as the output is not detected | 17:18 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: hdmi output (audio + video) works great on the same pc & tv when the pc is running windows | 17:19 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: with the same cable | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | probly needs the nvidia driver installed | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | I assumed it was | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | anyway gotta go | 17:21 |
| diogenes_ | i see, it's a difficul case then, right now i'm lowo n battery so i won't stay long but meanwhile you could read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples | 17:21 |
| Wiz | diogenes_: I will, thank you | 17:25 |
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| jackpetrilli | It's a shame really. I really wanted to use Kubuntu on my computer but it's simply not usable. Specifically, the network connection keeps dropping (or sometimes just seriously slowing down). | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | I tried getting rid of all IPV6 settings. That didn't work. | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | After hours of fiddling around, I finally got rid of network-manager (after stopping its service) and replaced it with WICD. That worked for about 2 days. Imagine my dismay when I started getting dropouts again today. Assuming that the system had auto-updated, I got rid of network-manager again and put in the commands to block auto-updating. (I cou | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | ld always manually use the Konsole commands to update, if needed). No luck. Now even WICD can't sustain a reliable internet connection. | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | This is really a pretty serious bug. Apparently it's an official bug now based on what I've been reading. The system is unusable if one has to continually disconnect and reconnect to get decent internet connectivity. I guess I'll have to return to Windows (sigh). | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | If anyone does have a solution, feel free to contact me at petrillijack1@gmail.com as I really would like to use this Plasma desktop. | 20:18 |
| jackpetrilli | network keeps dropping in Kubuntu 19.04 | 20:19 |
| jackpetrilli | already tried disabling all IPV6 references | 20:20 |
| bprompt | jackpetrilli: what about kubuntu 18.04? | 20:23 |
| bprompt | :) | 20:23 |
| jackpetrilli | Apparently this is an official bug with both 18.04 and 19.04 | 20:23 |
| bprompt | an official bug? hehe | 20:24 |
| bprompt | oddly enough, I never got it in 18.04 myself | 20:24 |
| bprompt | jackpetrilli: offhand we can say is either the network manager/applet OR the network drivers, are you referring to WLAN connection or NIC? | 20:25 |
| jackpetrilli | According to Internet, recognized as official bug - but not everyone gets it | 20:25 |
| jackpetrilli | WLAN | 20:25 |
| bprompt | jackpetrilli: well, I use kubuntu, but I run LXQT, not exactly Kwin, so I don't use the networking plasmas | 20:25 |
| jackpetrilli | I replaced network-manager with WICD and that worked for a whole 2 days and then the problem reappeared | 20:26 |
| bprompt | jackpetrilli: well, assuming is may just the plasma applet for the connection, you can always just use WICD instead for that, and it can sit on the systray just the same | 20:26 |
| jackpetrilli | I might try finding 16.04 | 20:27 |
| bprompt | which is what I run =) | 20:27 |
| jackpetrilli | Yeah, I thought I had the problem solved | 20:28 |
| bprompt | jackpetrilli: if WICD is doing it too, chances are is the network drivers, but I don't see it happening just to kubuntu alone, so it must be specific in this case | 20:30 |
| jackpetrilli | I'm burning the 16.04 edition as we speak | 20:31 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 20:31 |
| bprompt | I don't use 18.04 due to connection issues, it simply broke too many apps I use, I fix some and it broke more than desired, whilst in 16.04 everything runs smooth | 20:32 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <ericadams> @jackpetrilli, What kind of wireless card do you have? I'm just one person but I've used Kubuntu 18.04, 18.10 and 19.04 on this laptop and have never had that issue. If you have it with WICD as well I wonder if it's not more of a kernel/driver issue than KDE/Kubuntu specific. | 21:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ericadams> I am using a well-supported card though. Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi | 21:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> jackpetrilli quit IRC :/ | 21:18 |
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