[00:03] if first gpt table ok, but second gpt corrupt maybe not need gpt and use MBR for f2fs? [00:08] qwertrtuty: "required to support the f2fs file system: f2fs-tools." What shows ' dpkg -l f2fs-tools ' . [00:10] It's weird.. it's like dns is failing for imap.gmail.com.. but only via cron [00:11] pjs: Only a thought, but did you give cron the full path ? [00:11] Bashing-om: Yes. It's been fine forever.. This just started today, and it's random too, a few times today it ran successfully. [00:12] i see this not first time "first gpt table ok, but second gpt corrupt" when use usb flash + gpt + f2fs but i used f2fs small time, very smal time. I use exfat + mbr + exfat fuse. [00:13] I use exfat + mbr + exfat fuse for usb flash [00:14] pjs: Yup wierd :( corrupted files ? [00:14] PC [00:16] Bashing-om: maybe.. but if I run the script manually it's fine [00:18] Bashing-om: http://dpaste.com/0SMDVH3 [00:18] this info say about corrupt files? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6htXqGGdGj/ i think no. Or yes? I checked when second gpt corrupt. [00:19] I seem to get that NXDOMAIN thing, though reading the interwebs, says it's not really an error, just a notice. [00:19] I'm looking the most suitable virtualization platform for the following use case [00:20] 1) Host is bare metal on Ubuntu (Xeon E-2100 processor, plenty of RAM and NVME disk space: I need to run less than a dozen VMs) [00:20] 2) Guest VMs also Ubuntu, Xenial and Bionic mix [00:20] 3) Guests need to have as native as possible access to hardware (to use security keys and HSMs such as YubiHSM2, and also for performance reasons) [00:20] 4) Guests do not need to be hard constrained on resources, as I will be the single admin on all guests. [00:20] 5) Desirable but not mandatory: free and not the steepest learning curve. [00:20] Suggestions? [00:21] wholesum: All Linux flavors? [00:21] nope, guests will be only ubuntu xenial or bionic [00:21] host is bionic [00:21] wholesum: which are all Linux flavors... [00:21] fsck.f2fs can see from the check the damaged gpt table or not? [00:22] second gpt or first [00:22] wholesum: VMs are probably undesirable then. They permanently reserve RAM for each guest. [00:22] wholesum: LXC or LXD containers share memory and can dynamically release it back to the host. [00:23] ryou: all flavors i thought it would mean centos, debian etc [00:23] wholesum: yes. that's the limitation of these containers. they can't run anything else. [00:24] wholesum: As for access to hardware, there's limited access via containers. I've used containers to directly use USB printers. [00:24] ryuo: you mean a bionic LXC/LXD host can only run Bionic guests? [00:24] wholesum: i'm not sure how much you can do with them but it's at least possible to use USB devices. [00:24] wholesum: No. [00:25] wholesum: only can run Linux distributions. [00:25] They use the host kernel. [00:25] ah ok. LXC/LXD is what i was leaning towards based on my research. is there a web UI to manage LXC/LXD containers or is it cli only? [00:25] wholesum: no idea. i've only used the shell. [00:26] wholesum: you'd probably need the shell to set them up to your liking though. [00:26] wholesum: are all the hardware devices USB? [00:26] ryuo: yes [00:27] ok... probably doable then. [00:27] ryuo: casting aside all other requirements I have, which virt platform provides the most native access to not so common hardware, like security keys and HSM devices? [00:27] you just need to expose the device node to the guest. [00:27] it'll probably require a bit of fiddling with cgroups as well as bind mounting through the device [00:27] wholesum: "most native"? raw access (passthrough) is VM only. [00:28] the host kernel's drivers are used in the LXD version. [00:28] the container just needs to be able to see the device node. [00:28] ryou: HW passthrough, yes. which virt platform is best for this? [00:28] tyuo: or i guess you already answered that [00:28] there's only one option, VMs for that, but the LXD aproach is probably usable. [00:28] i've used it just fine without issue. [00:29] the host kernel talks to the hardware and exposes the userspace interface to the container via an exposed device node. [00:29] tyou: which VM would you pick if it doesn't end up getting it to work with LXC/LXD? [00:29] ryou: not tyou [00:30] wholesum: since it's probably a headless server, libvirt might be the best choice. [00:30] but that's rather complicated. [00:31] ryou: VMs are more complicated than LXC/LXD? I've used virsh before wasn't complex... containers are simpler!? [00:33] pjs: I do not have the mail experience to say :( but does "info (No MTA installed, discarding output)" point a finger ? [00:34] Bashing-om: well, I tried redirecting output to a log file in tmp and nothing. [00:35] Actually I'm not sure the NXDOMAIN thing is related because looking at older logs from yesterday, the same thing is logged and it was working [00:36] So it sure seems like something is being output from the script because I don't have that disacarding output entry either === ASDL is now known as SPeedY === Noisette is now known as Plumette [00:40] pjs: Is your mail server on Google " as Google has re-issued keys . [00:40] Bashing-om: ah, I found it.. thx for the help :) [00:40] I forgot, I changed how the keys were fetched and cron doesn't have the PATH for where the script was [00:41] so my script calls offlineimap which calls another program to get credentials.. the full path was needed in that 3rd script call [00:41] pjs: :) .. Glad you found it . [00:42] Bashing-om: Thanks again for the help :) [00:43] pjs: Pleased to be of some small assistance. [00:45] ryou: thanks for the help. BTW there is at least one decent UI for managing containers: https://github.com/AdaptiveScale/lxdui [00:46] I've never used setgid before. But if i create a group, throw myself in it, create a directory and give it the ole chown....the files below it are still being created as my group [00:46] user:user [00:46] Do I need to setgid on the folder? [00:47] I want the files created in this directory to be under a different group. [00:52] hi [00:52] Jdr: usually people create a user for the group. Then you can su , then all the cli ops are for that user and group === BuzzardBuzz|2 is now known as Buzzard [00:57] Ahh. I wanted to create a group, assign some users to it, and set the "default" group for a directory. [00:57] Any file created in that directory would be 'whateveruser' : newgroup [01:02] interesting question, jdr - I'm curious how you'd actually do that if it's possible. Files you create will have your user and group, that is what happens to any folder you can write to regardless of who happens to own it. if it's owned by whoever:secretgroup and it's set to 777 and you write files in there they will be created as you. [01:03] I'm sure there is a better solution than to cron.hourly a chown -R on a folder ;) [01:03] Chaekyung: hahah yesssss [01:12] -rw-rw-r-- 1 charlie admin 0 May 17 20:11 aasd [01:12] -rw-rw-r-- 1 jdr admin 0 May 17 20:11 adsf [01:12] -rw-rw-r-- 1 charlie admin 0 May 17 20:12 newfile [01:12] got it figured :D [01:16] how? [01:16] how to change the grub splash screen or verbos boot of google chrome os? [01:16] Created my group admin, added some users to it, then chown :admin /directory [01:16] then chmod g+s /directory [01:17] r15: this is a ubuntu channel. not chrome os. [01:18] >For directories chmod preserves set-user-ID and set-group-ID bits unless you explicitly specify otherwise. You can set or clear the bits with symbolic modes like u+s and g-s. To clear these bits for directories with a numeric mode requires an additional leading zero, or leading = like 00755 , or =755 [01:18] * Chaekyung learned something just now [01:21] ahhh [01:22] have a look also at umask [01:22] man umask [01:22] no manual entry for umask [01:23] But I'll Google it. [01:32] jdr: 'info umask' [01:32] And if 'man umask' fails, you are lacking SOMETHING. It's on my sys by default (Ubuntu 19.04) [01:34] 18.04, and no info for umask either [01:39] jdr: Ubuntu 18.04 has both a man page and info page for umask. If you don't have it, then you are either not running 18.04 or have done something to remove it [01:40] jdr: apt-cache policy manpages-dev [01:47] says its installed [01:47] nah, its not installed. [01:48] I got man umask now :D === fred_ is now known as Guest83850 [02:03] jdr: that should have been installed by default. Why was it removed? [02:03] No idea. [02:04] Have anything to do with me running lubuntu instead of ubuntu? [02:04] unlikely [02:04] i wouldn't think so either [02:27] jdr: Anything about your install options? Minimal instead of standard, for example? [02:28] Or, have you run a program that cleans your system? [02:28] (Some remove "extra packages") [02:30] Nah, it was a basic install. No program to clean. [02:54] How do I keep my ethernet from bringing up on boot? I have iface enp37s0 inet static manual in /etc/network/interfaces but it still comes up automatically. This is in Xenial [03:31] Hello [03:31] help please : [03:31] E: Le paquet « docker-ce » n'a pas de version susceptible d'être installée [03:33] !fr | neops [03:33] neops: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [03:33] qc = Quebecois [03:50] is there anyway to update emoji unicode on ubuntu.... some of my emojis are outdated... some are current. [03:56] !info fonts-noto-color-emoji [03:56] fonts-noto-color-emoji (source: fonts-noto-color-emoji): color emoji font from Google. In component main, is optional. Version 0~20180810-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 6935 kB, installed size 7580 kB [03:57] genji, oh ok i have that.... not updated [03:57] thanks [03:58] i mean the package isn't updated... in 19.04 is it different? [03:58] nvm === Alan_ is now known as Guest17679 [04:06] evening gents.. [04:06] welcome to ubuntu support Guest17679 === Guest17679 is now known as scythefwd [04:06] I am running ubuntu 18.04. Can anyone tell me how to increase the font size on Putty? === scythefwd is now known as scythefwd1 [04:08] most of those settings are in your home directory.. I'm not on my ubuntu host atm.. gimme a sec to check [04:09] sam_wong: is this a GUI? there should be a Window > Fonts option [04:09] doesn't putty use xterm? [04:10] is there a reason you use putty specifically? it's quicker and easier just to use ssh in your regular terminal console. [04:11] sam_wong: shift-right click on the putty windows. there should be a menu option for opening configuration of settings. [04:11] sam_wong: excuse me, ctrl-right click [04:13] ryuo: ctrl-right click, yes, it works [04:15] yeah, what they said [04:15] lol [04:18] on emojipedia, when I copy an emoji, it is accessible. but when I use unicode, the same emoji is different. [04:18] https://emojipedia.org/gear/ [04:18] for example ^ [04:18] what do you mean by "use unicode"? [04:19] U+2699.... [04:20] gives the gear emoji.... but I am also able to copy and paste the current gear emoji to my text editor [04:20] so copy/paste the emoji works but entering it another way doesn't? [04:20] are you sure it's not just pasting an image somehow (if it's a rich text editor) [04:21] what editor is being used? [04:22] puppetmasterFPU: terminal [04:22] terminal is not an editor. [04:23] true... [04:23] copy con file.txt [04:23] :P [04:23] i am actually using tomboy notes but it works in editor [04:23] Hi [04:23] welcome Jimmi [04:24] tomboy is a note tool. not an editor. just do it properly and use an editor with unicode support. [04:24] ie. vim or emacs. [04:24] This is my first time ever using irc, it kinda reminds me of the old chat rooms in the 90s [04:25] Jimmi: still beats social media. [04:25] well considering the protocol hails from the 80s [04:25] if not earlier [04:25] Jimmi: this is the support channel, you can ask ubuntu related questions here [04:25] You got that right [04:26] Facebook is nothing more than a spy network [04:26] !chat | Jimmi [04:26] Jimmi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [04:28] Is this a chat room? [04:28] no [04:29] it's a support room [04:29] oops sorry [04:29] Jimmi: use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic please [04:29] #ubuntu-discuss [04:49] Anyone that knows how it's possible for a 1.5TB drive to shrink it self down to below 500 GB ? I don't know how it happend it just did. And what ever i try to do to restore it, it does not work. [04:49] as in the total size of the disk is reported as 500 gigs? [04:50] Disk /dev/sde: 465.8 GiB, 500130372608 bytes, 976817134 sectors <- yepp === SuperL4g is now known as SuperLag [04:54] wtf_-: what does "sudo parted -l" produce? [04:57] puppetmasterFPU https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yv4btm7hsr/ [04:59] wtf_-: i feel stupid asking you this, but are you sure you're looking at the right drive? [04:59] yes [04:59] if so, it doesn't really make any sense. even if you had 500gb partition, parted would still display entire disk capacity. but it's not. [05:00] Well,. i don't have any drives below 1.5 TB other then the system disk that's 72. [05:00] So please do explain this :) [05:01] I did however, get a version mismatch on that disk the other day, and when i removed the partition this happend. [05:01] wtf_-: yeah, i wish i had an answer for you. but i'm afraid it's beyond my explanation. [05:01] i am not doubting you, but i can't see it actually reporting only 500gb if it was actually 1.5tb. [05:03] puppetmasterFPU Here are all the disks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P59s2Q6tGb/ [05:05] wtf_-: which one, /dev/sde? [05:06] hello, is anyone available for a quick help for a boot issue? [05:06] that would be very appreciated [05:06] :) [05:06] qwebirc70157: what's the problem? [05:07] yes Franknog [05:07] so i'm running pop_os (i know it's not ubuntu, but the issue is not related to the distro and google is of no help...) system doesn't boot at all [05:07] it's stuck on asus screen [05:07] i'm trying to make sens of systemd boot options [05:08] qwebirc70157: this is a ubuntu support channel. [05:08] i know... [05:08] but it's a more general systemd boot issue [05:08] not really distro relative.. [05:08] qwebirc70157: is your problem ubuntu related? [05:09] well, pop is based on ubuntu. And my issue is with systemD boot loading so i guess we could say so?? [05:09] qwebirc70157, there is a #popos channel bur only one person there [05:09] wtf_-: have you tried resize2fs? [05:09] which is why i'm here... [05:09] i was in pop channel first. But to no avail. [05:09] qwebirc70157: please stick to ubuntu related problems. [05:10] could you direct me to a more boot / systemD issue related channel then please? If i can't get help here. [05:11] it really have nothing to do with pop... [05:11] qwebirc70157, try #systemd channel [05:11] qwebirc70157: can you get to grub? [05:11] yeah but kernel won't load [05:11] qwebirc70157: alternate boot [05:11] i guess my uuid are mixed or something. But my knowledge is not that deep [05:11] uefi? [05:12] yes [05:12] qwebirc70157, not sure if popos boots uefi, [05:12] it does. Always did before. [05:13] Franknog got this now resize2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sde [05:13] ah ok [05:13] qwebirc70157: please seek help in an approproate channel. this is not a ubuntu related problem. [05:13] alright [05:13] qwebirc70157, try the #linux channel [05:13] thanks [05:14] although linux is linux "? [05:14] wtf_-: try xfs_growfs [05:14] wtf_-: back up your data first [05:15] i don't need the data. :) [05:15] can be dl'd once more. [05:15] i can't join #linux, i need to be invited... [05:16] qwebirc70157: because you probably want ##linux [05:16] thanks [05:16] welcome [05:20] is there a WSL channel? [05:20] Fixion_: what is wsl? [05:20] Windows Subsystem for Linux [05:21] Fixion_: shouldn't it be Linux Subsystem on Windows? [05:21] (ie originally bash on ubuntu on windows - bad name) [05:21] oh, that would be some ms channel. nothing to do with ubuntu. [05:21] !wsl | Fixion_ [05:21] Fixion_: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [05:21] actually it is something to do with ubuntu because ubuntu is running inside it kinda like a kernel emulator I guess... but it replaces the deprectated SFU/SUA (Subsystem for Unix-Like Applications) [05:22] ahh there is a channel for it :) thx [05:22] the title is pretty explanatory of the function, really. [05:22] Fixion_: :) [05:23] puppetmasterFPU: the name sounds like Windows is running as a subsystem on Linux [05:23] Franknog: perhaps you're reading it wrong. [05:23] yeahc come to think of it saying for linux makes it sound more like what wine is [05:23] puppetmasterFPU: was that the ghost of Jobs? [05:24] Fixion_: what's the difference between WSL and Cygwin? [05:25] one is by microsoft themselves [05:25] the other isn't [05:25] please stick to ubuntu related problems. [05:25] and CyGwin I think is a RPM-based distro or at least used to be [05:26] puppetmasterFPU: good idea :) [06:08] Hello My Name is Travis & am very confused with Ubuntu 19.04 they say users can't upgrade if they have a i386 but I donwnloaded the i386 net installer just installed it ran gnome-shell Ubuntu desktop gnome & it's installing all the i386 files am so confused [06:09] Why is it letting me installed it 😵 [06:14] what is the /cow filesystem? [06:15] i tried doing grub-install /dev/sda from a ubuntu live cd and it said it couldn't unmount it [06:28] johnjay, COW is copy-on-write; a fs intended for 'live' use, a changed file is a 'copy' stored in ram [06:29] johnjay, this may be useful (grub-install from live); see 'from LiveCD terminal' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing (did you do all mount steps there?) [06:35] teb007est: installing from a net installer is something else than upgrading from within a running system..... [07:03] guiverc: oh ok thanks [07:05] i didn't think grub-install needed it to be mounted [07:33] hey [07:33] anybody? [07:33] !ask | RandomLinuxPerso [07:33] RandomLinuxPerso: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:34] So, my laptop's hard disk is failing. I booted Ubuntu off a live usb, and mounted the external drive.. the only problem.. I don't know the names of the partitions on the internal drive so that I can tell ddrescue to save them [07:34] and I don't know how to point ddrescue to the external drive anyhow [07:35] RandomLinuxPerso: never used that tool, but perhaps - https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html [07:35] might have the clues you need? [07:36] https://pastebin.com/CXHjcXCd [07:36] RandomLinuxPerso: data recovery is what you want? [07:36] yuup [07:36] https://pastebin.com/CXHjcXCd [07:36] RandomLinuxPerso: i always recover data with photorec [07:37] nah I want to image it with ddrescue [07:37] to recover a full partition [07:37] only I can't identify which partition is which [07:38] grub has some commands that should tell you some details about what partitions are there [07:39] such as? [07:39] geometry should help [07:39] ?? [07:39] yeah if you cant tell im a newb [07:39] that grub command, i have used it before [07:39] geometry [07:40] plus i think i misspelled that command name [07:40] there is also a grub command that lists the commands [07:41] RandomLinuxPerso: how big is the partition [07:41] EriC^^ I have 3, c,d,e about 1TB total [07:42] my external drive is about that, around 18GB bigger [07:42] drive letters in linux? [07:42] its a windows drive i wanna recover [07:42] RandomLinuxPerso: it looks like this is the external drive /media/ubuntu/Segate Expansion [07:42] you wont see drive letters in linux [07:43] RandomLinuxPerso: try browsing to that location and see if that's where you want to save the stuff [07:43] EriC^^ I mounted it.. [07:43] I wanted to select the partitions with ddrescue to back them up onto the external drive.. only no idea which partition is which whatsoever [07:43] https://pastebin.com/CXHjcXCd [07:44] RandomLinuxPerso: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' [07:44] sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999 [07:45] Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.https://termbin.com/faqc [07:45] i tool i like to use to look at partitions is gparted live usb [07:45] ?? [07:45] termbin doesnt work [07:45] RandomLinuxPerso: i'd say start with sdb3 [07:45] sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt [07:46] then browse to /mnt and see if that's a partition you'd like to recover [07:46] how do i browse to it exactly [07:46] RandomLinuxPerso: use a file manager [07:47] or type in a terminal 'xdg-open /mnt' that's a general way since i dont know your file manager name [07:47] done [07:47] mounted external drive with file manager [07:47] now what [07:47] is /mnt a partition you want? [07:47] which one? [07:48] did you type 'xdg-open /mnt' [07:48] yup [07:48] Yeah my files [07:48] ok so you want that partition? [07:48] Yup that is my windows C: drive, I do in fact want it [07:49] and I also want the other two (D: and E:) [07:50] ok, great, type your ddrescue command, and for if put if=/dev/sdb3 and for "of=/media/ubuntu/Seagate\ Expansion" [07:50] \ escapes the space in case you're wondering [07:50] something like [07:51] sudo ddrescue -P -S /dev/sdb3 sdb3.bin sdb3.map [07:51] ? [07:52] that looks ok [07:52] wait no [07:52] okay [07:53] RandomLinuxPerso: do it as such, sudo ddrescue .... /dev/sdb3 /media/ubuntu/Seagate\ Expansion/sdb3.bin /media/ubuntu/Seagate\ Expansion/sdb3.map [07:53] alright [07:53] ddrescue too many files error [07:54] wait [07:54] stop [07:54] okay [07:54] i just noticed seagate is misspelt actually [07:54] use /media/ubuntu/Segate\ Expansion [07:56] sudo ddrescue .... /dev/sdb3 /media/ubuntu/Segate\ Expansion /sdb3.bin /media/ubuntu/Segate\ Expansion/sdb3.map [07:56] doesnt work either [07:56] too many files error [07:58] EriC^^ [08:05] doing it thru a gui now [08:06] sdb3 is indeed the c: drive but the rest i dunno [08:07] RandomLinuxPerso, I think you accidentally put a space in that [08:07] between Segate\ Expansion and /sdb3.bin [08:07] idk tho [08:07] monkeystance it works now through the ddrescue-gui.. [08:08] oh ok [08:09] okay [08:10] I dunno my other 2 partitions tho [08:10] which is weird [08:10] ohh [08:11] one of them is for sure sdb5 [08:11] and sdb6 [08:11] seems stuck on 15%?! [08:12] nah it works now [08:53] How can I properly rewmove a package [08:54] I'm using jack audio router (jackd2) and when I want to "sudo apt-get remove jackd2" it wants to uninstall pretty much every audio tool on device [08:54] that, I don't want [08:55] How should I properly remove packages? [08:56] what you tried is correct if the goal is to remove package "jackd2" [08:57] if it wants to remove other packages which *depend* on it, then that's a result of the dependency, and just logical, and there's nothing you can do about it. [08:58] if it just means that other packages are no longer required and may be automatically removed, you can prevent this by marking them as manually installed (apt-mark manual) [09:06] tomreyn, but for instance, I have bitwigstudio installed [09:06] I installed it way before than jackd2 [09:06] then installed jackd2 [09:06] now when I want to remove jackd2, it wants to remove bitwig as well [09:06] bitwig does not depend on jackd2 [09:06] for instance jackd2 also wants to remove wine as well [09:06] and many other system packages [09:06] it seems like everything depends on it, but it does not [09:10] mia: copy the output of your command to a pastebin and link it here, let's see if that clears things up [09:10] you can also pastebin the output of "apt-get --simulate autoremove" for good measure [09:14] thsr doing it now [09:16] can you build a gatsby site in Ubuntu? [09:17] I am building the development environment but cannot seem to find the folder [09:17] thsnr, tomreyn here is the pastebin output for my apt-get remove https://pastebin.com/gzk2xn8v [09:17] so, jackd2 is installed AFTER everything you see there [09:17] I made this mistake to say YES to this before once, and it even uninstalled cuda [09:18] so now I don't understand why removing this wants to remove all these packages [09:18] makes no sense at all [09:19] paste "apt-get --simulate autoremove" as well [09:20] mia: is pulseaudio still installed? Most audio packages depend on having an audio daemon installed and are happy with either pulse or jack. But if you've uninstalled pulseaudio, and are now uninstalling jack, this could cause what you're seeing [09:22] outputs of sudo apt update and sudo apt -f install and apt-cache policy may also help. [09:23] Seveas, pulseaudio is installed, yes [09:23] but it's not active as I'm using jack [09:23] I mean it's only active as a bridge not directly [09:23] everything goes through jack [09:23] But having jack as the main audio driver is a system setting [09:24] I don't understan why that's causing a package dependency to, EVERYTHING [09:25] so, i'm still trying to fix my mic in chrome. anyone have any experience with that? [09:26] chrome doesn't detect any mic. it looks like it's not even talking to pulse [09:26] but i have no idea to get any proper debug info out of this? [09:26] greetings all-can anyone tell me the best way to install openvpn please,am running 18.04.2, was planning on using "sudo apt-get install openvpn" [09:27] ppf, I was dealing with a lot of audio issues recently, maybe there is a routing problem in your system? [09:27] mia: entirely possible, how would i verify that? [09:27] anyway I'm not an expert but just install pulse audio volume control and see if your mic is the primary input device used by chrome [09:27]