[09:46] <brainwash> bluesabre: can you update xubuntu's xfce4-session.xml please? https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/diff/settings/xfce4-session.xml?id=0a915310582803296fbfb075e1ea1c045b20bfcc
[09:47] <brainwash> that is needed for 4.13.2
[09:52] <bluesabre> brainwash: https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=fd1430d8139ddb80cc2c323d284c9506042dfeab
[09:52] <bluesabre> I'll push an updated x-d-s tonight
[09:58] <bluesabre> (and -session if Unit193 continues to leave it for me :))
[10:00] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Set xfce4-session client priority from upstream @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=fd1430d8139ddb80cc2c323d284c9506042dfeab (by Sean Davis)
[10:03] <brainwash> there is a problem with xyz when using -session 4.13
[10:03] <brainwash> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15414
[10:04] <brainwash> the -session code did not change
[10:06] <brainwash> will try with 4.12 now
[10:07] <brainwash> it's not affected
[11:11] <brainwash> bluesabre, Unit193: xubuntu applies xubuntu_ignore-gdm-lang.patch to xfce4-session
[11:13] <brainwash>     - xubuntu_ignore-gdm-lang.patch: do not set $LANG to $GDM_LANG, there's
[11:13] <brainwash>       already an xsession script to do that, and $GDM_LANG might not contain
[11:13] <brainwash>       a valid locale code
[11:14] <brainwash> from 2011
[15:30] <Unit193> brainwash: Yes I'm aware.  I poked ochosi about it once and he said it wasn't needed upstream.  I was going to leave it in Xubuntu because I doubted it did any harm, considering no bug reports.
[15:30] <Unit193> (Then again, thought nothing would be setting GDM_* since gdm only works with gnome..)
[15:31] <brainwash> something must be setting it.. lightdm? accountsservice?
[15:33] <Unit193> https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=GDM_LANG+package%3A%5CQlightdm%5CE
[15:33] <Unit193> https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=GDM_LANG+package%3A%5CQlive-config%5CE huh.
[15:36] <brainwash> lightdm sets GDMSESSION also
[15:37] <Unit193> Granted, codesearch searches Debian, of course, and there's some differences (patches, versions), but still handy.  Our LightDM is newer.
[15:42] <brainwash> bug 1502921
[16:23] <brainwash> bluesabre: another thing which I only just noticed: the session xml has still the splash engine property
[16:24] <brainwash> not needed anymore after the removal of the splash engine
[19:42] <ochosi> brainwash: not sure i get it but it feels more like a lightdm issue than a session issue
[19:45] <ochosi> Unit193: do you plan on backporting the packages for 4.14pre1 to here? https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental
[19:46] <Unit193> Possibly?
[19:46] <ochosi> i personally also wouldn't mind a specific PPA
[19:46] <ochosi> but yeah, that could be done easily by copying over the packages later
[19:46] <Unit193> I don't think we need another, I'm already confused. :)
[19:49] <ochosi> hehe
[19:49] <ochosi> we can deflate them if it helps
[19:49] <ochosi> i really didn't want to confuse anyone
[19:56] <Unit193> Because experimental is for staging stuff, basically, whereas 'staging' is for backports.  But with all of Xfce 4.13 in disco and pushing all new releases to Eoan, functionally experimental == staging. :D
[19:57] <Unit193> xfdesktop4, xfce4-settings, and xfwm4 shortly will be up now too.
[19:58] <ochosi> awesome
[19:58] <ochosi> so apart from session we'd have everything?
[20:07] <Unit193> I skipped xfconf too.
[20:08] <ochosi> oh
[20:08] <ochosi> right
[20:09] <ochosi> did we not have that one anywhere before?
[20:10] <Unit193> W: xfwm4: icon-size-and-directory-name-mismatch usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/xfce-wm-menu.png 16x16  Huh.
[20:10] <Unit193> I had it in a personal arcive, I think that's it.
[20:11] <Unit193> I mean we have xfconf 4.13, just not the latest two releases.  I rather want the gsettingsd backend, but the migration script doesn't work it seems, sooo...
[20:17] <ochosi> yeah, i'd hold back on that one for a bit
[20:18] <ochosi> we can try to fix that at some point
[20:18] <ochosi> at least if we find no showstoppers in 4.14pre1 that consume all time until pre2
[20:29] <brainwash> ochosi: does that mean that the xubuntu patch should be dropped?
[20:29] <ochosi> brainwash: err, wait, are we dynmically switching channels or has the topic changed too? :D
[20:30] <brainwash> this is about the GDM_LANG thing
[20:30] <ochosi> ah, ok
[20:30] <ochosi> sorry, too many parallel threads
[20:30] <Unit193> brainwash: Problem exibits without patch, the patch works around it.  I say we keep.
[20:31] <brainwash> right
[20:31] <ochosi> in xubuntu yes
[20:31] <ochosi> i'd have to review the patch again for upstream
[20:31] <ochosi> or understand the problem again :)
[20:31] <brainwash> something needs to fixed
[20:31] <brainwash> does not matter what :)
[20:31] <ochosi> currently i need to get the release posting out
[20:32] <brainwash> sure