[03:17] <wxl> guiverc: i got one for you. bug 1829641 led me to this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1093862/lubuntu-brightness-backlight-issue and it has me wondering what the effect of changing the brightness (lxqt-config-brightness -i or -d) and backlight (pkexec lxqt-backlight_backend --inc or --dec) have on different types of systems, especially laptops. i am curious if backlight consistently doesn't work on 
[03:17] <wxl> desktops, too.
[04:43] <guiverc> ACK wxl, i'll explore though I don't think it does anything on the desktops I tried but i'll redo.
[04:44] <wxl> guiverc: i'd expect not, but a double check would be nice. otherwise, i want to see how consistent it is on laptops. if your laptop(s) have different external outputs, try it on all of them
[04:51] <guiverc> i will.  (the old x86 ones too?, i could use 18.10/19.04daily (~23dec18 I think I still have)
[04:54] <wxl> yeah actually i think if we could cover a broad spectrum of years, that would be great
[05:08] <guiverc> ETA is likely 24 hours wxl, if you need sooner let me know and I'll try starting in a few hours
[05:08] <wxl> guiverc: no rush. take your time.
[06:36] <guiverc> `lxqt-config-brightness -i` on first desktop tested; works!  (hp 8200 elite sff)
[10:32] <kc2bez> wxl: Another bug that didn't get tagged for Lubuntu Packages. bug 1829693
[11:54] <guiverc> wxl; i just tested t43 (old x86 ibm thinkpad); `lxqt-config-bri..` impacts both displays, `pkexec lxqt-back..` only impacts laptop display, not my connected external.  https://pad.ubuntu.com/1n2p6kr6h5 is what i've done so far, but would adding another vga display to sl510/x201 (newer thinkpads) be useful?  (will test those tomorrow)
[12:34] <esa1975[m]1> kc2bez: I logged that. Just getting started so I guess I missed the proper tag. I'll take a look to see how it was updated to be set correctly. Thanks.
[12:37] <kc2bez> esa1975[m]1: I think you filed it correctly. Some of the packages should automatically subscribe the Lubuntu Packages team. 
[12:37] <kc2bez> Thanks for your report.
[12:37] <esa1975[m]1> kc2bez: Got it. Of course. Happy to help.
 @ubot93 [<ubot93> Bug 1829641 in lxqt-config (Ubuntu) "brightness keys on laptop don't di …], Brightness keys on laptops work do work in my case.
[12:43] <kc2bez> @The_Loudspeaker does it change the backlight or the brightness?
 Brightness.
 I guess. How do you differentiate?
[12:50] <kc2bez> If you open the Brightness settings in the menu you can see two different settings. One for the backlight (slider) and one for the brightness (contrast really, rotational adjustment). So I guess the question is which one do the keys on your laptop adjust?
 I will check and let you know in some time.
[13:00] <kc2bez> Thanks for checking into it.
 In my case it is brightness
 anyone is using some app for googleDrive?
[13:52] <teward> last I heard all the GDrive apps were dead/bad
[13:52] <teward> or had their own problems
 Would it be possible to mirror my repo to one on phab?
[14:14] <teward> probably, but you'll want to use either Phab or your repo.
[14:14] <teward> not sure how phab takes to automirroring
[14:14] <teward> OR you can set multiple 'remotes' on your repository and push to both, but that'd be a @tsimonq2 / wxl policy discussion/decision
[14:15] <teward> which reminds me... @tsimonq2 / @wxl: I'mma be filing that RT ticket with Canonical IS for the DNS changes, I'll CC you both, and then one or both of you can approve the DNS changes.
 That's fine I'll probably keep it on my github atm. If anyone wants to help let me know and I'll add you as a contributor
 Here's a fun question to field the team: Emacs or Vim?
 *shiftyeyes* neither.
 ^ "Emacs with evil mode" lol
[15:43] <teward> nah, actually, direct byte encoding every single change with a hex editor :p
 Based
 *only codes in assembly
[17:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbeb21ab79c07: Style Button order] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbeb21ab79c07
[17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe5fb121250ae: Add list of other places you can change font] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe5fb121250ae
[17:30] <wxl> lynorian: a humble suggestion: give some time to work through configuring sddm. until we have the config manager, it's kind of a PITA
[17:30] <wxl> lynorian: i don't know if you're on the forum yet but i just answered a question about how to change the user icon
 *pokes wxl*
[17:35] <lynorian> wxl yeah I know I need to learn how to do that myself I don't mess with sddm configuration much myself
 *pokes wxl again, then pokes again soon after rhat*
 :P
[17:36] <wxl> @teward001: please redirect to forum.l.m -> discourse.l.m
[17:36] <teward> wxl: where's my task for it :p
[17:36] <wxl> @teward001: also, yes, i know. if i don't have to GPG sign i'll send a reply right now :)
[17:37] <wxl> you need a task for that? sheesh
[17:37]  * wxl makes a task for @teward001 to eat
[17:37] <teward> hey you and Simon keep bugging me for tasks when I give tasks to you guys
[17:37] <teward> i'mma return the favor.  *evil grin*
[17:37] <wxl> i think you're conflating simon and me
[17:37] <teward> :P
[17:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7c31ec89f102: Add how to change login picture] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7c31ec89f102
[17:46] <wxl> aaaand we now have GitHub logins on Discourse
[17:51] <lynorian> wxl where did you find how to change the icon to login to sddm?
[17:52] <wxl> lynorian: the manpage kind of hinted at it. see the FaceDir option
 wxl: aaaand forum. should redirect to discourse. now
 or not, in which case that's your fault 😛
[17:57] <wxl> hm
[17:57] <wxl> "not redirecting properly??"
 😐
 i'll see if i can fix that.
 AFTER I get this other thing sorted out
[18:03] <wxl> @teward001 we don't need to worry about backups for discourse do we?
 you want to try and clone a Docker container from one system to another, be my guest.
 Docker doesn't play that nicely :\
[18:03] <wxl> in that case: https://meta.discourse.org/t/configure-automatic-backups-for-discourse/14855
 i think Simon needs to set up S3 first 😛
[18:06] <wxl> nope
[18:06] <wxl> at least not if i read correctly
[18:06] <wxl> default is putting it on the server disk, i.e. outside of docker
 still needs copied regularly externally
 and y'all ain't paying me for storage space of daily backups :P
 LXD syncs are easy, snapshots are fun :P
[18:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf97215a9fc44: Clarify what you are adding a picture for] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf97215a9fc44
 @wxl [<wxl> aaaand we now have GitHub logins on Discourse], Launchpad should be available too
 Which means Lubuntu Council and Lubuntu Member flairs. ;)
[18:10] <lynorian> I hope the manual doesn't take up too much space with all the screenshots I have been adding
 @teward001 [i think Simon needs to set up S3 first 😛], I've been using work's S3 creds. Let me know what you need
 @lynorian [<lynorian> I hope the manual doesn't take up too much space with all the screens …], You're fine :)
 @tsimonq2 [I've been using work's S3 creds. Let me know what you need], Two hundred dollars.
 but this part was already known :P
[18:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6518dfe43975: Add how to fix nagging on desktop/vm] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6518dfe43975
[18:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL832def98e2cf: Add sddm configuration installing and testing new themes] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL832def98e2cf
[19:21] <wxl> @tsimonq2 the ubuntu sso task is now generalized https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35
[19:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Ubuntu SSO for apps: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 the ubuntu sso task is now generalized https://phab.lubuntu.me/T …], Idea: use an LDAP server which is just a Launchpad wrapper on the backend
[19:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: T is an invalid task reference.
[19:47] <wxl> @tsimonq2: no can do. read the task.
 @tsimonq2 yeaaaah, LDAP isn't SSO
 and wouldn't work right 😛
 Wait, doesn't Ubuntu One do OAUTH2 somehow?
 we would probably need local patch branches.
 @UniversalSuperBox I believe it *can* but not sure if it's Up To Date
[19:49] <wxl> @UniversalSuperBox OAuth1
 @teward001 [@UniversalSuperBox I believe it *can* but not sure if it's Up To Date], We should make it a team effort to get it there
 *checks*
 @tsimonq2 enjoy your Ruby then
 i'mma go do something productive like make email work :P
 @teward001 [@tsimonq2 enjoy your Ruby then], @acheronuk knows how much I love Ruby
 at least i ain't making you write COBOL
 or BF
[19:50] <lynorian> tpp is written in ruby
 "Oh yea, Discourse is heavily BF by the way, go enjoy writing in BF!" *shot*
 :)
 @teward001 [at least i ain't making you write COBOL], Handwriting 8 Java programs in an hour and a half for the AP CS A exam is easier than reading 50 lines of Ruby
 I've never written a single line of Java
 Hell, handwriting Brainfuck is easier
[20:00] <lynorian> yay https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406055 got something fixed upstream
 @lynorian [<lynorian> yay https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406055 got something fixed u …], Awesome, good job!
[20:02] <wxl> hm
[20:02] <wxl> do we need to do something to get images to show on discourse?
 @wxl [<wxl> do we need to do something to get images to show on discourse?], @teward001's fault :P
 @tsimonq2 [@acheronuk knows how much I love Ruby], oh god, has someone written code we/you need in that!???
 @acheronuk [oh god, has someone written code we/you need in that!???], Discourse
 @tsimonq2 [Discourse], madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 @acheronuk [madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!], Apologies for the PTSD :P
 @wxl [<wxl> do we need to do something to get images to show on discourse?], images from where?
 did you check your console for any errors?
[20:05] <wxl> imgur
 Like most languages, I can 'logic' my way through it at a push, but god, it is not the sanest
[20:05] <wxl> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/customize-login-picture/42/6
 @acheronuk [Like most languages, I can 'logic' my way through it at a push, but god, it is n …], Yeah
[20:11] <wxl> uploading it worked
 wxl: fixed it (see admin only topic: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/floop-testing-123-test-test-aaaaaa/44 )
 img-src CSP was adjusted
 CSP is a pain
 had someone bothered to hit F12 and look at the error console logs..
 ... i wouldn't have had to create a private test area
[20:18] <wxl> blah blah blah
 it should work now
 @wxl fun fact, Discourse AUTOMATICALLY downloads the image and replaces it with a local copy later
 so 😐
[20:24]  * wxl shrugs
 *wxl shrugged*