oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:16 |
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duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:19 |
oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:20 |
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Wimpress | Morning desktopers o/ | 07:09 |
jibel | hi all | 07:10 |
marcustomlinson | morning! | 07:14 |
didrocks | good morning | 07:16 |
duflu | Morning Wimpress, jibel, marcustomlinson | 07:33 |
duflu | And good morning didrocks | 07:33 |
jibel | hi duflu | 07:33 |
jibel | duflu, I reported bug 1829699 this morning, did you see a duplicate in the bugs you triaged? | 07:33 |
ubot5 | bug 1829699 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Switches are gone from the VPN menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829699 | 07:33 |
duflu | jibel, I gave up because LP was timing out | 07:34 |
* duflu looks again | 07:34 | |
didrocks | hey duflu, jibel | 07:35 |
duflu | jibel, no I don't know of any other reports of the switches missing completely | 07:36 |
jibel | salut didrocks | 07:36 |
jibel | ça va? | 07:36 |
jibel | maybe there are not many users of eoan yat | 07:37 |
jibel | yet* | 07:37 |
didrocks | jibel: ça va, p-e en train de tomber malade mais à confirmer :) et toi ? | 07:37 |
jibel | didrocks, en forme, w-e en famille en région parisienne. | 07:39 |
jibel | is there a way to download a package and all it's dependencies? | 07:41 |
jibel | the goal is to calculate the size it'd use on an iso | 07:41 |
didrocks | apt download only downoads a single binary package without checking deps AFAIK… | 07:42 |
jibel | and it downloads to var/cache/apt | 07:44 |
jibel | ah no, to the current directory | 07:44 |
didrocks | yep, current dir | 07:45 |
jibel | well, I'll do a loop | 07:45 |
didrocks | the thing is that you want to see additional deps from one package, correct? | 07:45 |
didrocks | compared to what is already installed on the image | 07:46 |
duflu | Interactively, you can just request an install and then say No: | 07:47 |
duflu | Need to get 7,426 kB of archives. | 07:47 |
duflu | After this operation, 42.8 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 07:47 |
duflu | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n | 07:47 |
jibel | I can exclude the files already in the manifest | 07:47 |
jibel | good idea, I'll do that from a live session | 07:47 |
jibel | thanks duflu | 07:47 |
duflu | yes no | sudo apt install MYPACKAGE | 07:48 |
didrocks | try that the first size should be ~size taken in the squashfs | 07:49 |
didrocks | (not the one on disk) | 07:49 |
jibel | yup, I just need an approximation | 07:49 |
didrocks | s/try/true/ | 07:49 |
seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:01 |
oSoMoN | good morning seb128 | 08:01 |
seb128 | lut oSoMoN! en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ? | 08:02 |
oSoMoN | ça va! pas fait grand chose, bien reposé. et toi? | 08:02 |
didrocks | salut seb128, bien rentré ? | 08:02 |
duflu | Morning seb128 | 08:04 |
seb128 | didrocks, oui, nickel, le trajet trop court, j'ai bossé et j'aurai pu continuer encore 3h avant de finir ma todo du jour :p | 08:04 |
seb128 | oSoMoN, ça va, train samedi mais arrivé vers 16h donc le temps de profiter du beau temps et faire un tour au parc. Dimanche reposant | 08:04 |
seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 08:04 |
duflu | seb128, I feel surprisingly terrible despite having a long sleep last night. No idea why. How are you? | 08:05 |
seb128 | :( | 08:05 |
seb128 | A bit tired and half blocked my back getting out of the bed :/ But otherwise I'm good | 08:06 |
duflu | We're twins | 08:08 |
oSoMoN | both of you should have stayed in bed and worked from there | 08:13 |
seb128 | I agree with the first part of that sentence :p | 08:20 |
duflu | Huh. I guess the date/time on discourse.ubuntu.com is broken? It's now showing read topics as unread and not showing new topics from today at all | 08:23 |
seb128 | it's not? | 08:24 |
duflu | seb128, no this is now missing: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/monday-20th-may-2019/10956 | 08:24 |
seb128 | on the "newest" columns I see the team update one first under the locked topic | 08:24 |
seb128 | with "updated 8m ago" | 08:25 |
seb128 | weird, it's on top of the list for me | 08:25 |
duflu | OK. My browser is broken. It's fine in an Incognito window | 08:25 |
duflu | Bad cookie | 08:25 |
seb128 | softwares grrrr.... | 08:26 |
seb128 | duflu, oh, nice to see another of your MRs merged upstream! :) | 08:29 |
duflu | seb128, yeah with the caveat that upstream made mistakes/changes in it that weren't in my proposal. But mostly great news it has landed | 08:29 |
seb128 | duflu, it's only variable names/code formatting issues or is there any "functional" problem? | 08:31 |
duflu | seb128, the main issue is that the pseudocode explaining it is now wrong because of the formatting changes | 08:31 |
duflu | But it's a really important fix even if a bit messed up, so great news | 08:32 |
seb128 | that's a bit annoying but not something impacting users | 08:32 |
seb128 | just do another MP proposal to address that :) | 08:32 |
duflu | seb128, I can't fix it (the commit text). I could only fix the code, which would be reverting what upstream did | 08:33 |
duflu | so I won't | 08:33 |
seb128 | k | 08:33 |
duflu | I have explained why the changes made are semantically incorrect, so that's enough | 08:34 |
duflu | And moving on... | 08:34 |
seb128 | +1 | 08:34 |
seb128 | it's annoying when upstream don't want to listen | 08:34 |
seb128 | but since it's their project their and they decide ... | 08:35 |
duflu | oSoMoN, random though - BTW when I said high resolution touchpad scrolling works in Chromium already, that's actually just in Xorg sessions. It doesn't work under Wayland | 08:37 |
duflu | So Firefox isn't that far behind | 08:37 |
duflu | -though +thought | 08:37 |
duflu | So funny story: If you want high resolution touchpad scrolling then you must use Xorg. If you want low rendering latency then you must use Wayland. At least there's a fix that will resolve the second one in 19.10 | 08:38 |
oSoMoN | ack | 08:39 |
duflu | Hmm, I am told I need libecal2.0 to build gnome-shell 3.33 now | 08:51 |
duflu | Is there a new evolution release we could package? | 08:51 |
seb128 | there is an new unstable serie yes | 08:54 |
seb128 | but usually don't start that early because it's a waste of resources to keep up with moving targets | 08:54 |
seb128 | you don't jhbuild? | 08:54 |
seb128 | we could get you the new e-d-s in a ppa if that helps | 08:55 |
seb128 | I don't think we want to upload to the archive yet though | 08:55 |
duflu | Doesn't matter. I'll just base any work on a 'stable' tag instead of 'master' for a while | 08:56 |
duflu | I'm mostly working in a different project | 08:56 |
seb128 | k | 08:57 |
Wimpress | o/ | 08:58 |
duflu | Weird. Nvidia performance got worse in the month or two since I last looked | 09:01 |
duflu | I'll need to look deeper at Nvidia for a while | 09:01 |
kenvandine | the new eds is going to be a real problem for snaps | 13:08 |
kenvandine | and flatpak | 13:08 |
kenvandine | i think each snap and flatpak will have to bundle their own eds, which kind of kills the whole desktop integration with contacts, etc :/ | 13:09 |
tintou | kenvandine: have you seen this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/commit/deb6249bb727f7320db725006e16c26aa9d77c48 | 13:15 |
kenvandine | tintou: not yet | 13:26 |
seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, the desktop services and their dbus API is a problem that has not yet been resolved... | 13:42 |
seb128 | no proper ABI/forward compat for those is an issue | 13:43 |
kenvandine | yup | 13:43 |
Trevinho | morning! | 14:34 |
oSoMoN | good morning Trevinho | 14:42 |
seb128 | hey Trevinho, how are you? | 14:44 |
Trevinho | hi seb128 and oSoMoN | 14:55 |
Trevinho | seb128: all good :) | 14:55 |
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oSoMoN | good night all | 17:19 |
Trevinho | Laney: I've pushed MR's for mutter and gnome-shell new upstream (stable) releases at salsa, please have a look to them, as last time they were forgotten :P, or tell me who can also help with those. | 19:13 |
Trevinho | having debian one merged would also unblock me from doing it for eoan/disco | 19:21 |
Trevinho | although as for mutter there's probably no need to do a release in ubuntu (we already included all the main patches), while for g-s would be nice | 19:22 |
Trevinho | not sure we want some kind of versions mismatch though | 19:22 |
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