oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:16
dufluMorning oSoMoN06:19
oSoMoNhey duflu06:20
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WimpressMorning desktopers o/07:09
jibelhi all07:10
didrocksgood morning07:16
dufluMorning Wimpress, jibel, marcustomlinson07:33
dufluAnd good morning didrocks07:33
jibelhi duflu07:33
jibelduflu, I reported bug 1829699 this morning, did you see a duplicate in the bugs you triaged?07:33
ubot5bug 1829699 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Switches are gone from the VPN menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182969907:33
duflujibel, I gave up because LP was timing out07:34
* duflu looks again07:34
didrockshey duflu, jibel07:35
duflujibel, no I don't know of any other reports of the switches missing completely07:36
jibelsalut didrocks07:36
jibelça va?07:36
jibelmaybe there are not many users of eoan yat07:37
didrocksjibel: ça va, p-e en train de tomber malade mais à confirmer :) et toi ?07:37
jibeldidrocks, en forme, w-e en famille en région parisienne.07:39
jibelis there a way to download a package and all it's dependencies?07:41
jibelthe goal is to calculate the size it'd use on an iso07:41
didrocksapt download only downoads a single binary package without checking deps AFAIK…07:42
jibeland it downloads to var/cache/apt07:44
jibelah no, to the current directory07:44
didrocksyep, current dir07:45
jibelwell, I'll do a loop07:45
didrocksthe thing is that you want to see additional deps from one package, correct?07:45
didrockscompared to what is already installed on the image07:46
dufluInteractively, you can just request an install and then say No:07:47
dufluNeed to get 7,426 kB of archives.07:47
dufluAfter this operation, 42.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.07:47
dufluDo you want to continue? [Y/n] n07:47
jibelI can exclude the files already in the manifest07:47
jibelgood idea, I'll do that from a live session07:47
jibelthanks duflu07:47
dufluyes no | sudo apt install MYPACKAGE07:48
didrockstry that the first size should be ~size taken in the squashfs07:49
didrocks(not the one on disk)07:49
jibelyup, I just need an approximation07:49
seb128good morning desktopers08:01
oSoMoNgood morning seb12808:01
seb128lut oSoMoN! en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ?08:02
oSoMoNça va! pas fait grand chose, bien reposé. et toi?08:02
didrockssalut seb128, bien rentré ?08:02
dufluMorning seb12808:04
seb128didrocks, oui, nickel, le trajet trop court, j'ai bossé et j'aurai pu continuer encore 3h avant de finir ma todo du jour :p08:04
seb128oSoMoN, ça va, train samedi mais arrivé vers 16h donc le temps de profiter du beau temps et faire un tour au parc. Dimanche reposant08:04
seb128hey duflu, how are you?08:04
dufluseb128, I feel surprisingly terrible despite having a long sleep last night. No idea why. How are you?08:05
seb128A bit tired and half blocked my back getting out of the bed :/ But otherwise I'm good08:06
dufluWe're twins08:08
oSoMoNboth of you should have stayed in bed and worked from there08:13
seb128I agree with the first part of that sentence :p08:20
dufluHuh. I guess the date/time on discourse.ubuntu.com is broken? It's now showing read topics as unread and not showing new topics from today at all08:23
seb128it's not?08:24
dufluseb128, no this is now missing: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/monday-20th-may-2019/1095608:24
seb128on the "newest" columns I see the team update one first under the locked topic08:24
seb128with "updated 8m ago"08:25
seb128weird, it's on top of the list for me08:25
dufluOK. My browser is broken. It's fine in an Incognito window08:25
dufluBad cookie08:25
seb128softwares grrrr....08:26
seb128duflu, oh, nice to see another of your MRs merged upstream! :)08:29
dufluseb128, yeah with the caveat that upstream made mistakes/changes in it that weren't in my proposal. But mostly great news it has landed08:29
seb128duflu, it's only variable names/code formatting issues or is there any "functional" problem?08:31
dufluseb128, the main issue is that the pseudocode explaining it is now wrong because of the formatting changes08:31
dufluBut it's a really important fix even if a bit messed up, so great news08:32
seb128that's a bit annoying but not something impacting users08:32
seb128just do another MP proposal to address that :)08:32
dufluseb128, I can't fix it (the commit text). I could only fix the code, which would be reverting what upstream did08:33
dufluso I won't08:33
dufluI have explained why the changes made are semantically incorrect, so that's enough08:34
dufluAnd moving on...08:34
seb128it's annoying when upstream don't want to listen08:34
seb128but since it's their project their and they decide ...08:35
dufluoSoMoN, random though - BTW when I said high resolution touchpad scrolling works in Chromium already, that's actually just in Xorg sessions. It doesn't work under Wayland08:37
dufluSo Firefox isn't that far behind08:37
duflu-though +thought08:37
dufluSo funny story: If you want high resolution touchpad scrolling then you must use Xorg. If you want low rendering latency then you must use Wayland. At least there's a fix that will resolve the second one in 19.1008:38
dufluHmm, I am told I need libecal2.0 to build gnome-shell 3.33 now08:51
dufluIs there a new evolution release we could package?08:51
seb128there is an new unstable serie yes08:54
seb128but usually don't start that early because it's a waste of resources to keep up with moving targets08:54
seb128you don't jhbuild?08:54
seb128we could get you the new e-d-s in a ppa if that helps08:55
seb128I don't think we want to upload to the archive yet though08:55
dufluDoesn't matter. I'll just base any work on a 'stable' tag instead of 'master' for a while08:56
dufluI'm mostly working in a different project08:56
dufluWeird. Nvidia performance got worse in the month or two since I last looked09:01
dufluI'll need to look deeper at Nvidia for a while09:01
kenvandinethe new eds is going to be a real problem for snaps13:08
kenvandineand flatpak13:08
kenvandinei think each snap and flatpak will have to bundle their own eds, which kind of kills the whole desktop integration with contacts, etc :/13:09
tintoukenvandine: have you seen this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/commit/deb6249bb727f7320db725006e16c26aa9d77c4813:15
kenvandinetintou: not yet13:26
seb128kenvandine, yeah, the desktop services and their dbus API is a problem that has not yet been resolved...13:42
seb128no proper ABI/forward compat for those is an issue13:43
oSoMoNgood morning Trevinho14:42
seb128hey Trevinho, how are you?14:44
Trevinhohi seb128 and oSoMoN14:55
Trevinhoseb128: all good :)14:55
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oSoMoNgood night all17:19
TrevinhoLaney: I've pushed MR's for mutter and gnome-shell new upstream (stable) releases at salsa, please have a look to them, as last time they were forgotten :P, or tell me who can also help with those.19:13
Trevinhohaving debian one merged would also unblock me from doing it for eoan/disco19:21
Trevinhoalthough as for mutter there's probably no need to do a release in ubuntu (we already included all the main patches), while for g-s would be nice19:22
Trevinhonot sure we want some kind of versions mismatch though19:22

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