[06:16] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:19] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:20] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
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[07:09] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers o/
[07:10] <jibel> hi all
[07:14] <marcustomlinson> morning!
[07:16] <didrocks> good morning
[07:33] <duflu> Morning Wimpress, jibel, marcustomlinson
[07:33] <duflu> And good morning didrocks
[07:33] <jibel> hi duflu
[07:33] <jibel> duflu, I reported bug 1829699 this morning, did you see a duplicate in the bugs you triaged?
[07:33] <ubot5> bug 1829699 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Switches are gone from the VPN menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829699
[07:34] <duflu> jibel, I gave up because LP was timing out
[07:34]  * duflu looks again
[07:35] <didrocks> hey duflu, jibel
[07:36] <duflu> jibel, no I don't know of any other reports of the switches missing completely
[07:36] <jibel> salut didrocks
[07:36] <jibel> ça va?
[07:37] <jibel> maybe there are not many users of eoan yat
[07:37] <jibel> yet*
[07:37] <didrocks> jibel: ça va, p-e en train de tomber malade mais à confirmer :) et toi ?
[07:39] <jibel> didrocks, en forme, w-e en famille en région parisienne.
[07:41] <jibel> is there a way to download a package and all it's dependencies?
[07:41] <jibel> the goal is to calculate the size it'd use on an iso
[07:42] <didrocks> apt download only downoads a single binary package without checking deps AFAIK…
[07:44] <jibel> and it downloads to var/cache/apt
[07:44] <jibel> ah no, to the current directory
[07:45] <didrocks> yep, current dir
[07:45] <jibel> well, I'll do a loop
[07:45] <didrocks> the thing is that you want to see additional deps from one package, correct?
[07:46] <didrocks> compared to what is already installed on the image
[07:47] <duflu> Interactively, you can just request an install and then say No:
[07:47] <duflu> Need to get 7,426 kB of archives.
[07:47] <duflu> After this operation, 42.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[07:47] <duflu> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
[07:47] <jibel> I can exclude the files already in the manifest
[07:47] <jibel> good idea, I'll do that from a live session
[07:47] <jibel> thanks duflu
[07:48] <duflu> yes no | sudo apt install MYPACKAGE
[07:49] <didrocks> try that the first size should be ~size taken in the squashfs
[07:49] <didrocks> (not the one on disk)
[07:49] <jibel> yup, I just need an approximation
[07:49] <didrocks> s/try/true/
[08:01] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128
[08:02] <seb128> lut oSoMoN! en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ?
[08:02] <oSoMoN> ça va! pas fait grand chose, bien reposé. et toi?
[08:02] <didrocks> salut seb128, bien rentré ?
[08:04] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:04] <seb128> didrocks, oui, nickel, le trajet trop court, j'ai bossé et j'aurai pu continuer encore 3h avant de finir ma todo du jour :p
[08:04] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va, train samedi mais arrivé vers 16h donc le temps de profiter du beau temps et faire un tour au parc. Dimanche reposant
[08:04] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:05] <duflu> seb128, I feel surprisingly terrible despite having a long sleep last night. No idea why. How are you?
[08:05] <seb128> :(
[08:06] <seb128> A bit tired and half blocked my back getting out of the bed :/ But otherwise I'm good
[08:08] <duflu> We're twins
[08:13] <oSoMoN> both of you should have stayed in bed and worked from there
[08:20] <seb128> I agree with the first part of that sentence :p
[08:23] <duflu> Huh. I guess the date/time on discourse.ubuntu.com is broken? It's now showing read topics as unread and not showing new topics from today at all
[08:24] <seb128> it's not?
[08:24] <duflu> seb128, no this is now missing: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/monday-20th-may-2019/10956
[08:24] <seb128> on the "newest" columns I see the team update one first under the locked topic
[08:25] <seb128> with "updated 8m ago"
[08:25] <seb128> weird, it's on top of the list for me
[08:25] <duflu> OK. My browser is broken. It's fine in an Incognito window
[08:25] <duflu> Bad cookie
[08:26] <seb128> softwares grrrr....
[08:29] <seb128> duflu, oh, nice to see another of your MRs merged upstream! :)
[08:29] <duflu> seb128, yeah with the caveat that upstream made mistakes/changes in it that weren't in my proposal. But mostly great news it has landed
[08:31] <seb128> duflu, it's only variable names/code formatting issues or is there any "functional" problem?
[08:31] <duflu> seb128, the main issue is that the pseudocode explaining it is now wrong because of the formatting changes
[08:32] <duflu> But it's a really important fix even if a bit messed up, so great news
[08:32] <seb128> that's a bit annoying but not something impacting users
[08:32] <seb128> just do another MP proposal to address that :)
[08:33] <duflu> seb128, I can't fix it (the commit text). I could only fix the code, which would be reverting what upstream did
[08:33] <duflu> so I won't
[08:33] <seb128> k
[08:34] <duflu> I have explained why the changes made are semantically incorrect, so that's enough
[08:34] <duflu> And moving on...
[08:34] <seb128> +1
[08:34] <seb128> it's annoying when upstream don't want to listen
[08:35] <seb128> but since it's their project their and they decide ...
[08:37] <duflu> oSoMoN, random though - BTW when I said high resolution touchpad scrolling works in Chromium already, that's actually just in Xorg sessions. It doesn't work under Wayland
[08:37] <duflu> So Firefox isn't that far behind
[08:37] <duflu> -though +thought
[08:38] <duflu> So funny story: If you want high resolution touchpad scrolling then you must use Xorg. If you want low rendering latency then you must use Wayland. At least there's a fix that will resolve the second one in 19.10
[08:39] <oSoMoN> ack
[08:51] <duflu> Hmm, I am told I need libecal2.0 to build gnome-shell 3.33 now
[08:51] <duflu> Is there a new evolution release we could package?
[08:54] <seb128> there is an new unstable serie yes
[08:54] <seb128> but usually don't start that early because it's a waste of resources to keep up with moving targets
[08:54] <seb128> you don't jhbuild?
[08:55] <seb128> we could get you the new e-d-s in a ppa if that helps
[08:55] <seb128> I don't think we want to upload to the archive yet though
[08:56] <duflu> Doesn't matter. I'll just base any work on a 'stable' tag instead of 'master' for a while
[08:56] <duflu> I'm mostly working in a different project
[08:57] <seb128> k
[08:58] <Wimpress> o/
[09:01] <duflu> Weird. Nvidia performance got worse in the month or two since I last looked
[09:01] <duflu> I'll need to look deeper at Nvidia for a while
[13:08] <kenvandine> the new eds is going to be a real problem for snaps
[13:08] <kenvandine> and flatpak
[13:09] <kenvandine> i think each snap and flatpak will have to bundle their own eds, which kind of kills the whole desktop integration with contacts, etc :/
[13:15] <tintou> kenvandine: have you seen this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/commit/deb6249bb727f7320db725006e16c26aa9d77c48
[13:26] <kenvandine> tintou: not yet
[13:42] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, the desktop services and their dbus API is a problem that has not yet been resolved...
[13:43] <seb128> no proper ABI/forward compat for those is an issue
[13:43] <kenvandine> yup
[14:34] <Trevinho> morning!
[14:42] <oSoMoN> good morning Trevinho
[14:44] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[14:55] <Trevinho> hi seb128 and oSoMoN
[14:55] <Trevinho> seb128: all good :)
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[17:19] <oSoMoN> good night all
[19:13] <Trevinho> Laney: I've pushed MR's for mutter and gnome-shell new upstream (stable) releases at salsa, please have a look to them, as last time they were forgotten :P, or tell me who can also help with those.
[19:21] <Trevinho> having debian one merged would also unblock me from doing it for eoan/disco
[19:22] <Trevinho> although as for mutter there's probably no need to do a release in ubuntu (we already included all the main patches), while for g-s would be nice
[19:22] <Trevinho> not sure we want some kind of versions mismatch though