Franknogmonty_hall: sorry, I think I misunderstood. NFS4 is in Ubuntu 18.0400:01
icrbaakohi guys drwxrwsr-x what chmod is that? is it 777 or 755?00:01
icrbaakoor none00:02
Franknog775 is rwxrwxr-x00:03
gbellinozicrbaako: the "s" in your example would be setting a bit in the first digit of 0775...00:06
gbellinozsee http://permissions-calculator.org/00:07
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gbellinozI think yours would be 277500:07
icrbaakogbellinoz: thanks00:11
gbellinozIt always throws me that the 's' takes the place of the 'x', but it makes sense, because it means WHEN the file gets executed by the user or group, then it will take on their id. So 's' is inclusive of the x permission.00:11
gbellinoztry this:00:12
gbellinoztouch bs00:12
gbellinozchmod 277 bs00:12
gbellinozls -l bs00:12
gbellinozthat'll show you that you're matching.00:12
gbellinozmeant chmod 2775 bs00:14
JonelethIrenicusso apt is giving me a warning when using it in a script00:26
JonelethIrenicuscan i disable it?00:26
JonelethIrenicusin my script?00:26
quadratJonelethIrenicus: apt-get is normally used for scripts, apt is rather a user-frontend00:27
JonelethIrenicusquadrat: i see00:27
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JonelethIrenicusquadrathoch2: how can i do apt -qq list $my_packages_list00:29
JonelethIrenicuswith apt-get00:29
Ben64JonelethIrenicus: what's the goal00:30
quadrathoch2 /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER quadrat cxuafnyxlbje00:30
JonelethIrenicusBen64: I am getting a list of packages that are "installed"00:30
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Bashing-omquadrathoch2: Tine for a password change ^^ :(00:31
Ben64JonelethIrenicus: "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" ??00:31
JonelethIrenicusBen64: im feeding it a list and checking if they are install00:31
JonelethIrenicusBen64: nice00:31
quadratBashing-om:  well it's not a password :P00:31
Ben64JonelethIrenicus: dpkg -s $package | grep Status00:33
JonelethIrenicusBen64: thanks man00:33
Ben64np, hope it works well for you00:33
gbellinozBashing-om: how does that happen? Every time I type /msg I'm afraid that's going to happen and I won't be able to tell!00:35
quadratgbellinoz: honestly I think that maybe there was a blank space in front of the /00:36
qwerttutyuThere will be at 19.04 or 19.10 kernel 5.1?00:36
Ben64easy way to avoid is by using the network tab or whatever to do /msg nickserv00:36
quadratBen64: sadly polari as an app sucks00:37
Ben64!info linux-image-generic00:37
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB00:37
Bashing-omgbellinoz: When sensitve activities are conducted .. do so in the status window - private there :)00:37
Ben64!info linux-image-generic disco00:38
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (disco), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB00:38
Ben64qwerttutyu: well 19.04 has 5.000:38
qwerttutyui know 19.04 have, but there will be an updating of kernel to version 5.1?00:40
quadratqwerttutyu: nope, only the next version of ubuntu gets the newer kernels. but you could update it yourself00:41
Ben64the exception is LTS, which can get kernels from later ubuntu versions00:43
qwerttutyuin 19.10 = kernel 5.1. I downloaded ubuntu-mate 19.10 and i see in livecd kernel  5.0.0-1300:44
qwerttutyuin 19.10 = kernel 5.1?00:44
qwerttutyuor kerhel 5.1 only in ubuntu 20?00:45
quadratqwerttutyu: there will be 5.1 at some point in 19.10 but it will probably take some time still (and the installer could have a different kernel than the installed system00:47
tytan64why netplan00:50
tbrownI need help installing an old gimp on Ubuntu 19.04 Disco00:52
tbrownThe New Gimp I do not like it00:52
Alabalisticwhich version do you want to install00:53
tbrowngimp 2.7.500:54
tbrownAlabalistic : Gimp 2.7.500:55
Alabalisticsudo apt install gimp=2.7.500:55
Alabalistictry this00:55
tbrownAlabalistic : E: Version '2.7' for 'gimp' was not found00:56
tbrownAlabalistic : will I tryed 2.7.5 to but I said mabey 2.7 would work00:57
tytan64just curious, what is the main difference between 2.7 and 2.10?01:00
tatertotzsee release notes and or change logs01:23
qwebirc64715hi, i had a bad stick of memory, an update was applied, and my udev now wont mount things and i get a lot of messages about udevadm triggers not working because of something notnworking.  i tried reinstalling udev and stuff and rebuilt initrd but nothing makes it work.01:36
qwebirc64715i now have a new stick of memory, and memtest passes..  i just need to get udev to install mybstuff.. i habe to manually modprobe andnstuff to get online.. and gnome display manager has annerrorn where it keeps trying even though the display driver isnt installed and so i habe to bootnin recovery every time.  misspellings thanks to gboard.01:38
OneM_IndustriesEverything onscreen is fuzzy.01:47
gbellinozSo, system details? I've seen that, but a decade ago... solved by new fonts, proper Xorg resolution and/or telling the monitor to calibrate/align itself, iirc.01:50
OneM_IndustriesNevermind, reboot fixed it.01:51
jcottoncould also be DPI issues01:55
qwebirc59324guys just wondering what is this sabnzbd thing on the Server Snaps when im installing ubuntu02:01
Ben64its a newsgroup grabber thing02:02
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SethTanybody know how i can switch from blas to blis? i have installed blis03:23
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TikityTikHi all, I want to do my partition table from scratch, so far i have 550 MB EFI and 16 GB swap, how can i get subvolumes that are encrypted?04:27
TikityTikwhat filesystem does LVM do?04:27
jcotton16 GB seems pretty extreme for swapspace04:29
TikityTikwell i have 8 GB of ram, but my HDD is 1 TB and I honestly will never use up all the space04:29
TikityTikprobably at most 100 GB04:29
jcottonyou can use a swap file instead04:29
TikityTiknah, i want a dedicated swap partition04:30
qwebirc12588got disconnected after asking about a borked udev problem04:31
[rg]mskh package is in universal on 16.04, however I can't find it?04:41
[rg]am i crazy?04:41
sammmwhy is the 'hosts' entry in /etc/nsswitch.conf disabled by default (at least in xenial it is), whats the purpose of it?04:41
[rg]yeah false alarm, ignore me04:44
AndroUserHi all04:46
uio/mode $me +x05:06
gimpnixonGood evening, I had a couple questions about what to use to change themes, I recently stripped down a few things on my system and am only using compiz with xfce4 panel and thunar. I was able to change my terminal colours in setting just fine but thunar remains a blinding bright white. I read that this can be changed through gtk 2.0 css or through gtkrc but am not having any luck. and am not able to05:08
gimpnixonchange the theme through gnome-tweaks or ubuntu settings. I know it's a little tricky since i'm not using default system any sugestions would be appreciated05:08
lotuspsychje!themes | gimpnixon start here05:12
ubottugimpnixon start here: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:12
gimpnixonok thank you05:13
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: to learn what experts use, i reccomend deviantart linux desktop screenshots & unixporn05:13
gimpnixonlotuspsychje: unixporn is a channel?05:15
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: no, its a community sharing linux screenshots, this way you can learn what users use on xubuntu for example05:15
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: alternate you could also talk to the #xubuntu users05:16
gimpnixonOk great, so I will just search for those and should come accross some forums and they will probably mention what they are using, great, thanks a bunch05:16
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: you dont really need forums, clicking on the users screenshot, will mostly share all the specs and tools used to become the eyecandy05:22
gimpnixonlotuspsychje: however the information is shared is ok05:23
gimpnixonlotuspsychje: thanks again, this seems to be sending me in the right direction, basically am looking for alternatives to Emerald theme switcher, gnome/unity-tweaks and this seems like it will get me there with some searching, appreciate your time05:30
lotuspsychjegood luck gimpnixon05:37
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: on ubuntu-desktop themes can be easy switched from gnome-tweak-tool but on xubuntu, i dont really know one05:38
lotuspsychje!info gtk-theme-switch | gimpnixon maybe this?05:39
ubottugimpnixon maybe this?: gtk-theme-switch (source: gtk-theme-switch): GTK+ theme switching utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-5build1 (bionic), package size 16 kB, installed size 54 kB05:40
gimpnixonubottu: thank you, just downloaded that and will give it a try05:44
ubottugimpnixon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:44
gimpnixonCould have fooled me ubottu, you ole hoot05:44
plongshotI keep doing more searches and I'm not finding anything.  Is it possible to create  a  DROP  rule using the ufw command?  I know the files can be edited manually but it lookes like a lot of changes to make.05:50
lotuspsychjeplongshot: for firewall configuration you can try #netfilter05:50
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lotuspsychje!firewall | plongshot see also05:50
ubottuplongshot see also: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo05:50
Ben64plongshot: "deny"05:51
plongshotBen64: Yes but DENY does not behave the same as DROP05:52
plongshotDrop simply gives no response to the client and lets it time out wondering what happend.05:52
Ben64yep, that's what deny does05:54
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gimpnixonHye everyone, just a quick update, what seems to work for me and the only thing that has seemed to work with my setup is lxappearance in the ubuntu repos. I know its kind of a special case but thought i would update you, thanks again for your help06:23
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: tnx for the feedback gimpnixon06:24
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: does that work on xubuntu too?06:24
gimpnixonI dont know as i'm not using xubuntu, i'm jsut using a (self)messed up version of Ubuntu 19.0406:26
lotuspsychjegimpnixon: ok tnx06:26
gimpnixonI stripped out every bit of gnome because i was having some issues. and just installed compiz and xfce4 panel and use startx just to get something going for now06:27
gimpnixonnp, thank you again, really helped point me where i needed to go06:27
lotuspsychjewelcome gimpnixon06:27
gimpnixonlotuspsychje: really saving my eyes! cheers06:28
blackflowgimpnixon: how did you deal with device permissions, if you're using startx directly?06:31
gimpnixonhaven't seemed to have any trouble there, not sure specifically which devices you're refering. not saying that I wont run into some issues down the road but have been using startx only for a very long time as i only ever boot into console mode on every system.06:33
gimpnixonblackflow: but everything except for the blinding white background seemed to be my only issue so far, which was solved with lxappearance, other than that daily use and work flow have been semless06:36
plongshotsorry wrong paste  :S06:41
plongshotCan mysqld be purged ( $ sudo apt purge mysqld ) from my server without breaking anything?06:41
tuxinatorgood morning everybody07:06
tuxinatorstrange thing, umounted /home but fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sd(x)1 says device is busy :D07:06
tuxinatorlooks like a monday morning issues :D07:07
blackflowtuxinator: resolved itself automagically?07:08
EriC^^you sure sd(x)1 is home?07:08
marc_hey there07:12
* hello Mama just killed a man07:19
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TikityTikmy suspend and resume is broken for 19.0407:56
TikityTikfor my dell insipiron 576507:57
TikityTikapparently my mouse can movie the nothing else responds...07:58
TikityTikcan move*07:59
blackflowTikityTik: can you, for example Ctrl-Alt-F2  to switch to tty2?08:03
tuxinatorsdx4 yes08:03
tuxinatordoing a reboot08:03
tuxinatorand checking :D08:03
TikityTikblackflow: no08:03
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blackflow!prefix | tuxinator08:06
ubottutuxinator: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:06
blackflowTikityTik: I'd guess that your hardware is having bad support for the S3 state. usually the GPU is the culprit, which GPU do you have?08:08
TikityTikamd r5 stony08:08
TikityTikcrappy laptop gpu08:08
blackflowTikityTik: also you could look for clues in the journal, short time before suspend, and short time after resume08:08
majomI have configured googe authenticator authentication for ssh on 18.04 following https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-multi-factor-authentication-for-ssh-on-ubuntu-16-0408:11
majomThe verification code is seemingly accepted and then asked for again. My configuration and logs are at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yQZs2XDzn9/08:12
blackflowmajom: #ubuntu-server is more suitable for this08:13
mcm_how can i securely download the ubuntu cd images?08:20
mcm_all iso, checksum, and gpg signature are delivered from unsecure site08:21
blackflowmcm_: perhaps this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto08:24
majomHi, I have set up googe authenticator authentication for ssh following this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-multi-factor-authentication-for-ssh-on-ubuntu-16-04. The problem is that according to the logs the google authentication is passes but I still receive a seond prompt to enter my verification code. My logs and outputs are pasted here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yQZs2XDzn9/08:25
blackflowmcm_: this too:  https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu?_ga=2.44434084.1288539561.1558340717-721476129.1557414336#008:25
blackflowmajom: you might have more luck asking in #ubuntu-server08:26
majomsorry, ment to post this in #server08:26
qwebirc96092In recent events with America's ban on Huawei (read android ban on Huawei) wouldn't be interesting if Ubuntu phone dep. took action and proposed a solution to Huawei and their insane r&d budget (+-15b.)? (this is a question i want to ask a Ubuntu phone rep but I'm neither a marketing nor technical issue person)08:29
ryuoqwebirc96092: erm. ubuntu phone is pretty much dead. what do you hope to achieve?08:30
qwebirc96092i just imagine it being a project huawei would like since its fully operational08:31
qwebirc96092you know08:31
blackflowthis discussion is more suitable for #ubuntu-discuss08:31
qwebirc96092(im pretty new to the forums08:31
qwebirc96092could you tell me what way to go08:32
ryuothat's not a forum. it's another channel here.08:32
blackflowqwebirc96092: just /join #ubuntu-discuss08:32
qwebirc96092thanks lads08:32
qwebirc96092do i need a real acc to join that channel?08:33
blackflowoh yeah, you do.08:34
qwebirc96092ah well08:34
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chmdHi there ! I would like to open a file with a script I wrote in firefox. The problem is, I don't know how to tell firefox to do that08:41
tuxinatorcan't get it :D08:42
chmdWhen I select "open with" > "Other..." the list says "no application for application/octet-stream"08:42
tuxinatorubottu: sorry my monday syndrom, never posting without prefix normally and on irc since 15 years :D08:43
ubottutuxinator: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:43
chmdI would like to be able to give firefox the path to my script and tell it to open all files with the extension .foo with my script08:43
chmdhow do I do that? it looks like it is an ubuntu-specific problem08:44
tuxinatorany idea for my umount issue? fuser -mk /dev/sda4 does not mention anything and umount /home worked08:45
chmdat least reddit says that https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/4jb9eb/how_to_choose_how_firefox_should_open_already/08:45
blackflowtuxinator: grep the output of `mount` for any additional (bind) mounts to that device08:46
blackflowchmd: firefox is a browser. how did you "write a script" in it? You can save whole (html) pages (and their dependencies) from FF, and that's all you can do.08:46
LachezarHey all. Sporting a 19.04. Is there any alternative to the systemd-resolver? It seems to lock up after a few hours on my laptop. Reconnecting to the WiFi seems to help.08:47
blackflowbut if that was a text you edited in a form somewhere and then saved the page? that text is not saved.08:47
tuxinatorblackflow: i have a bind mount which is also unmounted08:47
qwebirc62052is it possible to expand disk size in ubuntu/VM if full from main laptop automatically if needed?08:47
tuxinatorblackflow: result https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CF2CvkcHBq/08:48
blackflowtuxinator: something is still touching that partition the. check with `lsof` if anything is still holding open file descriptors on filesystems you unmounted. though, you wouldn't be able to umount if so, unless with -l08:48
Lachezarqwebirc62052: That would depend on the hypervisor and the disk image format being used. Some allow run-time resizing.08:48
chmdblackflow: I wrote a shell script to handle ".foo" files. I did *not* write it _in_ firefox, it is an entirely independent piece of code that I installed in ~/.local/bin. I want to tell firefox to open files .foo with this script08:48
blackflowtuxinator: then again, you mention fuser? is this a FUSE fs? that could change some things then08:48
tuxinatorblackflow: i tried fuser and lsof08:49
tuxinatorblackflow: no it is not a fuse fs08:49
chmdblackflow: the same way you can tell firefox to open .pdf files with evince, for example08:49
qwebirc62052Lachezar virtualbow allows that? Also problem seems to be IO read write issue, VM seems cannot handle it, but main laptop has 2core 8ram, how it cannot handle?08:49
tuxinatorman fuser08:50
tuxinatorblackflow: fuser has not at all something to do with fuse08:50
Lachezarchmd: You could open a .foo file and tell firefox to remember your choice.08:50
tuxinatorblackflow: https://linux.die.net/man/1/fuser08:50
blackflowtuxinator: ah yeah, fuser is like lsof... I confuzzled.08:51
tuxinatoris there a "man" bot in this channel?08:51
Lachezarqwebirc62052: VirtualBox IIRC has a format that can be extended on-the-fly.08:51
chmdLachezar: how? firefox does not let me do that08:51
tuxinatorblackflow: no problem, always tricky in the "big command world"08:51
Lachezarchmd: Really?08:51
Lachezarchmd: Does the file have proper Content-Type header from the server?08:52
chmdLachezar: 10:42 < chmd> When I select "open with" > "Other..." the list says "no application for application/octet-stream"08:52
Lachezarchmd: If it's .foo, but "text/plain" or "text/html" it's not going to open those with an external program.08:52
qwebirc62052Lachezar you have link to download? I had a version of Virtualbox but in ubuntu installing i didnt see that option. Also, how to check the ulimit of the VM?08:52
annoyedOk, can't boot. I am running Ubuntu mate 18.10 on an Acer an515-42, using Ubuntu's built in encryption. I am getting initramfs on boot on all installed kernels, running fsck against /Dev/sda* doesn't seem to do anything. Also the system has to have the grub settings edited to work around Acer's UEFI using the parameters of " acpi=noirq pci=noacpi ivrs_ioapic[4]=00:14.0 ivrs_ioapic[5]=00:00.2 ". Booting from a live USB my drive can08:52
annoyedbe decrypted and the files check out, but I can't find the grub.cfg file where it should be so I don't have to manually re-enter the work around post kernel update that has me stuck here.08:52
neurehow do I control CPU fan speed?08:53
Lachezarchmd: Make the server return something like x-application/foo-extension08:53
blackflowannoyed: "biult-in"? You mean you checked the encryption checkbox when you installed it? So that's LUKS encrypted root fs? With separate /boot ?08:54
Lachezarqwebirc62052: Nope. Create a new VM and check the options for the disk type.08:54
annoyedBlackflow yes08:54
lotuspsychjeneure: in your bios you can control your fan speeds08:55
qwebirc62052Lachezar ok and what disk type I choose? Also do you know how to check the ulimit of the VM?08:55
Lachezarqwebirc62052: ulimit is per user, check "ulimit -a"08:56
blackflowannoyed: and the "initramfs on boot with all installed kernels" -- are you referring to the grub menu?08:56
qwebirc62052Lachezar ok I write ulimit -a in the terminal?08:57
lotuspsychjeannoyed: can you try to F1 textboot, see where it bottlenecks?08:57
mcm_blackflow, thank you! these links are what i needed regarding the key id :-)09:00
Lachezarqwebirc62052: For the disk type: check this one https://superuser.com/questions/36051709:00
qwebirc62052Lachezar I did ulimit -a, many things appear where do i look?09:02
blackflowmcm_: you're welcome.09:02
tuxinatorblackflow: now booting without /home in fstab at all, so if that doesn't work, it's really a monday issue :D09:02
chmdLachezar: I solved this by creating .local/share/applications/foo-opener.desktop with the right MimeType=... line09:03
blackflowtuxinator: there's also another thing. you wanted to fsck the GPT partition, but....is there a layer between the filesystem and the partition? LVM? Encryption?09:03
chmdnow firefox lets me choose my script09:03
annoyedBlackflow Yes, I have to hit e at the grub menu to manually re-enter the UEFI work around post reboot after a kernel update. see this for more detail https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/619839/#Comment_61983909:04
neurelotuspsychje, I want an app for that instead09:05
neurenot very handy to go to bios every time I want to make an adjustment09:05
blackflowannoyed: ah, sorry, I don't know much about EFI and problems specific to it.09:05
lotuspsychjeneure: there's a snap for that now, you might need to config it first: snap find fancon09:06
jeremy31annoyed: can't you edit /etc/default/grub then make the changes and do sudo update-grub09:07
qwebirc62052Lachezar I read that but still dont see which disk type is better?09:08
annoyedLotuspsyche Blackflow https://i.imgur.com/XKGoJtH.jpg Jeremy31 no, when I boot to live USB there is nothing there09:10
lotuspsychjeannoyed: seems like you have issues with arrays ontop09:11
annoyedLotuspsyche Blackflow  Jeremy31 but the grub.cfg file must exist, it appears as it should, sans UEFI work around from the grub menu. More pics coming09:13
lotuspsychjeannoyed: you might wanna compare some steps from here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/567730/gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-ubuntu-vg-root-doesnt-exist09:15
alive_I've upgraded to 19.04 and notice that I cannot remove the menubar in gnome-terminal09:15
alive_What can I do?09:15
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lotuspsychjealive: do you have the option in menu to remove it?09:17
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aliveNo, it is gone09:17
aliveIf I go to preferences->general it's also gone from there09:17
lotuspsychjealive: do you have other menu items/categorys?09:18
jeremy31alive: what about right click in terminal?09:18
aliveOK, in the right click I get "show menubar". The alt-menu shows if I enable it. But there's window decorations anyway on the terminal (didn't have those on 18.10)09:19
blackflowannoyed: you can't fsck LUKS containers. the probem you're having is that initramfs doesn't apparently autodetect that it has to unlock anything --- or does it? Did it ask the encryption passphrase?09:19
aliveIn 18.10, "show menubar" also removed windows decorations09:19
blackflowannoyed: unless it's something EFI specific (of which I have no idea how to help you), your problem sounds familiar. I think newer initramfs has dropped automated support for cryptsetup, so you'd have to install them manually. Not sure what the installer does, tho'.09:20
lotuspsychjealive: 18.10 will soonish go end of life, maybe think of your next step?09:21
aliveWell I've already switched to 19.04  :P09:22
aliveAnyway, I'll give terminator a go. Loved the gnome-terminal so far.09:22
qwebirc62052I have 160gb in apps/games section, but i cannot find which apps are to heavy to unistall? what can I do to find this apps?09:22
tuxinatorblackflow: no there is no layer in between09:23
lotuspsychje!info baobab | qwebirc6205209:23
ubottuqwebirc62052: baobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-1 (bionic), package size 163 kB, installed size 904 kB09:23
tuxinatorblackflow: i wanted to fschk before converting filesystem to btrfs and now i just found out that for 18.04 btrfs-convert is broken, so i can forget the whole action :D09:23
tuxinatorblackflow: so the issue is postponed :D09:24
qwebirc62052ubottu i meant in windows where i have the VM with ubuntu, what to give more GB to ubuntu09:25
ubottuqwebirc62052: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:25
blackflowtuxinator: btrfs is broken, period.09:25
lotuspsychjeqwebirc62052: windows questions goto ##windows please09:25
blackflowwell it's not a windows question really09:26
aneonis there a different channel for Ubuntu Server?09:26
blackflowqwebirc62052: I wouldn't go below 20GB disk space, nor below 4GB RAM, if you want to use the GNOME desktop09:26
blackflowaneon: #ubuntu-server, yes09:26
qwebirc62052how to increase the ulimit -n fromt ther terminal?09:27
annoyed-phoneBlackflow Jeremy31 lotuspsyche https://youtu.be/Nc0lALwvOoI09:27
annoyed-phoneSorry, I got disconnected for about 509:28
qwebirc62052please, how to increase the ulimit -n fromt ther terminal? from 1024 to 204809:28
blackflowqwebirc62052: you mean inside the Ubuntu VM?09:29
aneonulimit -f <number>09:29
qwebirc62052blackflow yes09:29
blackflowannoyed-phone: looks like initramfs has no idea it has to unlock the rootfs. It never asked for passphrase?09:30
annoyed-phoneBlackflow no, it has not, the video is the complete boot with quiet splash disabled and with the UEFI hack running, that's as far as it gets on all installed kernels09:31
regdudeHi! Does anyone know a tabbed terminal manager that also can save server address? I know GCM, but looking for alternatives09:35
blackflowannoyed-phone: not sure how to help you there then. Sounds as if the installer did not set up the initramfs properly. Again, unless this is something specific to EFI, the course of action I'd take is go back to the Live env, unlock and mount the rootfs and inspect the grub and initramfs setup. methinks it has something to do with recent initramfs not auto-installing cryptsetup support09:38
varaindemianjust noticed how snappy gnome is now09:38
varaindemianahve you guys noticed that?09:38
varaindemianhave you*09:38
blackflowannoyed-phone: like this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241035609:38
varaindemianwhat caused this transformation?09:38
lotuspsychjevaraindemian: #ubuntu-discuss please09:38
blackflowwell it is a snap now.     badum-tss!09:38
Lachezarqwebirc62052: Fiddling with limits shoul donly be done if you know what you're doing. That said: man limits.conf09:39
Lachezarqwebirc62052: That response seems to name VMDK as the more robust variant.09:39
Lachezarchmd: Nice. Does it mean, that you changed mime-type for the .foo files? Are you opening those files locally? From file:/// URIs?09:41
Kingsyanyone in here using httpie?09:41
lotuspsychjeKingsy: we try to focus on ubuntu related issues, are you having issues regarding ubuntu?09:43
Lachezar*repeat** Is there any alternative to the systemd-resolver? It seems to lock up after a few hours on my laptop. Reconnecting to the WiFi seems to help.09:44
qwebirc62052Lachezar, a server is a computer in a physical center that you can rent and access via cloud with your laptop wih ssh?09:44
Utnubu15Hey there.09:44
blackflowLachezar: I use Bind, there's also Ubnound and the dnsmasq that was used by default before resoved09:44
Utnubu15Does anybody know how to save Ubuntu's settings onto a live USB? I know there is a method to make the live USB persistent storage, however I want to do that after the fact with the live USB already running. Is it possible?09:45
Lachezarblackflow: Yeah, dnsmasq worked great, I don't know if I can use it now that systemd-resolver is in place.09:45
lotuspsychje!patience | Utnubu1509:46
ubottuUtnubu15: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/09:46
aneonyou guys should try cloudflare's new DoH, it is amazing09:47
lotuspsychje!ot | aneon09:47
ubottuaneon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:47
Lachezarblackflow: I'm worried, that with the obnoxious-level coherence of the systemd installing anything that is an alternative to any part of it would break my system.09:47
blackflowLachezar: sure you can. I disable resolved and use Bind. you just have to install dnsmasq and then set up /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf   dns=   setting to dnsmasq. The manpage has more info.09:48
Lachezarblackflow: Hm. Does dnsmasq require bind?09:48
blackflowLachezar: in this case, systemd is not pushing it, Ubuntu is. you can run systemd process manager and init, with no resolved, just fine.09:48
blackflowLachezar: it doesn't, dnsmasq is standalone resolver09:48
blackflowsystemd-resolved is NOT though, it's a stub resolver. it requires a recursive (caching) resolver elsewhere.09:49
* Lachezar is Restarting WiFi to see if DnsMasq works.09:51
aneonI suggested DoH (DNS over HTTPS) in context of dnsmasq & other stuff people discussed earlier09:51
Lachezarblackflow: Seems Network Manager keeps resolving via systemd-resolver09:52
Lachezarblackflow: Any pointer where to fix that?09:52
blackflowaneon: via CloudFlare? no thanks.09:52
aneonwhy trigger a bot over simple comment09:53
lotuspsychjeaneon: this is not a chat, we keep things seperated for discussions09:53
blackflowLachezar: you have to disable resolved.   https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/304050/how-to-avoid-conflicts-between-dnsmasq-and-systemd-resolved09:54
chmdLachezar: if the extension you want to open is .foo, just associate the mime type application/x-foo to your program09:55
blackflowLachezar: personally, I configure NM for dns=none, and then "mask" (as just "disable" won't work) the systemd-resolved.service (and stop it of course), and then I set a static file for /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver  . That way I have complete contorl.09:55
Lachezarblackflow: I need to have the DNS use different local suffix in different networks.09:57
Lachezarblackflow: ... provided by NetworkManager09:58
blackflowLachezar: the NM's dns= setting in NetworkManager.conf defines which DNS service is used and configured via resolv.conf. You have to disable (actually mask it) systemd-resolved so that dnsmasq can take over port 53 on localhost.09:59
blackflowLachezar: btw, good luck, I have to leave the office now, bbl.09:59
Kingsylotuspsychje: ah sorry. No worries. No nothing specific10:01
GamerGirl2770So I just aquired a proper gaming desktop PC. Of course I will run some flavors of linux on it. But I also need Windows to play games without linux/steamOS support. There is a Windows 10 install on it. But it's not activated. There is also no licence on the pc according to the seller. Now I also have a laptop with a broken screen I was gifted by a friend. I took the screen of and slabbed linux mint on there and put it by me tv10:05
GamerGirl2770On the laptop is Windows 10 with licence. I am confident my friend didn't reuse the windows key or something. He is not a tech dude and he has forgotten the password. So I can't get in. Is it possible to exctract the key from the laptop and use it to activate the Windows on the new Desktop PC?10:07
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: hows this related to ubuntu?10:07
GamerGirl2770I need to get the key from the laptop through ubuntu (mint)?10:08
lotuspsychje!mint | GamerGirl277010:08
ubottuGamerGirl2770: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)10:08
legreffierThere's a forgotten password button if he used a MS account (which is the low-tech, default, behavior)10:09
GamerGirl2770I am aware it's a different distro but very much based on Ubuntu. Also last time I got very nice help here. So I hoped people here could help me.10:09
GamerGirl2770No MS account I think. I set it up when he got it.10:10
thsnrGamerGirl2770: be warned that if the laptop has a windows oem license, then you are not allowed to use it on other hardware10:10
legreffierlegit (legal) oem licenses = 2-5$ on ebay.10:11
* Lachezar sees no light in the tunnel. DNSMASQ only works with systemd-resolved enabled !??!10:11
qwebirc62052I need a 1u rack wth ubuntu for a data center, which 1u rack you recommend?10:13
GamerGirl2770Yeah but I like not to buy it as I am very cheap. It would take me about 10 minutes at work to make 5 bucks. I still prefer to spend hours moving the licence from the laptop to the desktop.10:13
GamerGirl2770What if I connect some hardware from the laptop inside the desktop so it's still the same system in a way?10:14
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: this si really not the scope of this channel, see support in the channel that supports it10:14
GamerGirl2770What channel could I use? I didn't find a #windows channel?10:15
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: there is ##windows ##hardware #mint on spotnet10:15
* Lachezar succeed!10:16
Lachezarblackflow: Thanks.10:16
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: alternate if you install ubuntu on your pc, we can offer you support10:17
GamerGirl2770I have ubuntu on the pc.10:18
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: mint is not ubuntu, its a derivative based on ubuntu10:18
GamerGirl2770No I have mint on the laptop. I have Ubuntu on the desktop. \10:18
pax_rhoshello, what should I do about 'Additional Drivers' showing 'No additional drivers available' instead of showing proprietary ones?10:19
lotuspsychjeGamerGirl2770: but your original question is not about your ubuntu desktop is it?10:19
lotuspsychjepax_rhos: wich driver are you looking for?10:19
pax_rhos'Software & Updates' > 'Ubuntu Software' > 'Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)' is checked10:20
pax_rhoslotuspsychje: nvidia10:20
pax_rhosI see I have nvidia 340 installed10:20
lotuspsychjepax_rhos: wich chipset do you have please10:20
pax_rhoslotuspsychje: please, remind me the command to check that10:20
lotuspsychjepax_rhos: sudo lshw -C video10:20
pax_rhosproduct: RV610 [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]10:21
pax_rhoswhat the...10:21
coz_get rid of the nvidia driver,yes?10:22
pax_rhosTIL my GPU is not nvidia10:23
Lachezarpax_rhos: Dual GPU?10:23
pax_rhoswell, intel built-in + looks like it is really an AMD10:25
BluesKajHowdy folks10:27
coz_BluesKaj, hey10:28
BluesKajhey coz_10:28
qwebirc62052hi how to change the ulimit -n in ubutun terminal to 2048?10:57
OerHeksqwebirc why do you need that?11:02
tinloafWhat is meant by "Enablement Kernel" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS ?11:03
tinloafIt that the kernel version from which on the mitigations are enabled by default? And the mitigations are available starting from "Base Kernel"?11:04
willksmYes tinloaf your understanding is correct.11:04
willksmHowever, you may need more than just the kernel upgrade to be fully mitigated.11:05
tinloafThanks. How do I enable the mitigations on my 16.04 LTS, which is still on linux-image-4.15.0-50-generic 4.15.0-50.54?11:05
tinloafI know… I already have the updated microcode, and I'm thinking about Hyperthreading…11:05
willksmTo check your system, read the contents of the /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds file. You must apply kernel updates and reboot if the file does not exist as that indicates that your kernel does not have mitigations in place for MDS.11:05
OerHekstinloaf, that .54 kernel is fixed11:05
qwebirc62052hi how to change the ulimit -n in ubutun terminal to 2048?11:06
tinloafOerHeks: but (as I speculated above) the mitigations are not enabled by default?11:06
OerHeksqwebirc why do you need that?11:06
OerHekstinloaf, yes they are, by the kernel update + microcode11:06
tinloafwillksm: the file says "Mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable" - so, it's just disabling Hyperthreading that's missing?11:06
willksmYes looks like it11:07
tinloafThanks. :)11:07
tinloaf(Also, thanks for that /sys/* feature - didn't know that)11:07
EriC^^qwebirc62052: are you writing some c program and need it?11:07
willksmtinloaf, np. If you disable HT then you should see '  Mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled' which would mean you're "fully" mitigated11:08
tinloafI wonder how many people will really disable SMT. I mean, that's about 40% of the overall performace in day-to-day use, so that really hurts.11:09
OerHekstinloaf, it cripples intel, sure, but that is what is going on, meltdown and now there new vuln11:10
jaltHi, how can I check if my kernel (latest 16.04 LTS HWE: 4.15.0-50-generic #54~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP) has the mitigations=off kernel parameter backported?11:15
lotuspsychje!mds | jalt11:16
ubottujalt: Microarchitectural Data Sampling is a security issue with Intel processors. Update your system to receive the kernel and microcode patches. Visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS for more info and recommendations.11:16
OerHeksjalt, yes it is11:16
yoggI wan't to run an uwsgi application on ubuntu 18.04. This works fine, but I have an permission problem for the /run/uwsgi (/var/run/uwsgi) folder. This folder gets recreatet after every reboot, so a simple chmod/chown does not work. I can now write my own startup script, but at first I ask if there is maybe already an intended way to do this?11:17
qwebirc62052Eric^^ I have 1024 and VM crashed and someone told me to change the ulimit -n to 2048, can i do this in the terminal?11:19
jaltThanks OerHeks, I'm aware that MDS mitigations were backported, but I am specifically looking for info on the mitigations=off parameter, so I don't have to keep track individually. How do you know/how to tell?11:20
qwebirc62052I have 1024 and VM crashed and someone told me to change the ulimit -n to 2048, can i do this in the terminal?11:21
OerHeks"IMPORTANT: Vulnerability mitigations should only be disabled in carefully controlled environments where all of the code being executed is known and trusted. " ...11:22
lotuspsychjejalt: your dmesg log will tell you about security issues too11:22
OerHeksif you use that, why keeping track of vuln ??11:23
OerHeksyou disable this mds by that11:23
jaltbecause they are enabled by default, resulting in excessive overhead. need to track the new kernel paramters to disable them as they are discovered, which is what i want to avoid. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html11:24
OerHeksbuilding a honeypot or something?11:25
jalti am not looking for info on security issues, simply tracking if that specific feature was backported11:25
lotuspsychjejalt: you cant predict security flaws before they come out11:25
jaltyou can, but i'm not trying to do that. i'm trying to reduce the maintenance burden by disabling mitigations by default, which is exctly what mitigations=off does and why it was introduced recently11:27
lotuspsychjejalt: is that ubuntu server you're on?11:29
jaltit's actually xubuntu, but it doesn't matter. the kernel is the same (see uname on my initial msg).11:29
jalthttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.15.0-50.54 it does, problem solved11:32
qwebirc44810can anyone help me with ssh login11:34
willksmwhat's the issue qwebirc44810?11:36
makiba_Hi Every One :)11:59
martind_Hello all, I want to remap some of my keyboard keys to different key combinations. For  example I want to make the COPY (Ctrl+C) to be mapped to Windows+C. How is this possible on Ubuntu?11:59
popey_martind_: you probably want xmodmap12:00
EvilArcherHi, I'm trying to create a minimal netinstall ubuntu image into which I can ssh and do a headless install. I can get into the ssh part, but I have to go through "Select your location" screen. Is there a option I'm missing in my preseed file? https://gist.github.com/kristiandrucker/c3dc334a3d0c561c20ad09b112e6b6cd12:00
martind_popey_ I will ive t a try12:00
Oolisn't it possible with the keypboard settings app ?12:00
martind_Ool: I cannot really do that. I've tried.12:01
habbasiHi, everyone. I'm having trouble with getting my Radeon VII up and running on Ubuntu 18.04. So far, I updated the VBIOS on the card and also installed the AMD pro drivers, seeing as the kernel drivers aren't in yet.12:01
eagleHi what's the most light linux distrib for an old PC ?12:01
habbasiI'd like to avoid getting blobs...12:01
habbasieagle: Probably Xubuntu.12:01
eagle@habbasi thanks12:02
eagleFor your problem have you got all update ?12:03
habbasiYes, I have all the updates. :)12:04
eagleyou're in hdmi or other ?12:05
habbasiI'm connected via DisplayPort.12:05
eagleCan you connect in hdmi ?12:06
habbasiI'm fairly sure it's a driver issue... :c12:06
habbasiNot what I'm connected with.12:06
eagleOk do you have download in AMD website ?12:07
habbasiYep, I downloaded from the website and installed from their instructions, but when I boot, I get a garbled screen for a second then everything is black.12:09
eagleOk can you acces to your screen with the mother card ?12:10
habbasiYes, it works fine in Ubuntu.12:11
habbasiI mean Windows.12:11
habbasiAnd it works fine with the nomodeset parameter IF I don't have the drivers installed.12:11
habbasiBut then I get a really low resolution.12:12
eagleCan you go to setting and additionnals pilotes ?12:12
habbasiYou mean additional drivers? There's nothing there for my GPU.12:13
OerHeks Radeon VII , you should try Ubuntu 19.04, which should be working out-of-the-box given its use of Linux 5.0 and Mesa 19.012:14
OerHekshabbasi, ^^12:14
eagleyes sorry i'm french so my interface is not the same. Have you install with apt12:14
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.12:14
OerHekshabbasi, or you might want !HWE12:15
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack12:15
OerHekstoo new graphics card12:15
habbasiOerHeks I really would... Is ROCm supported on 19.04? It isn't listed on the page. Which is why I'm hesitant...12:16
toffeHad a breakin at our office and my ubuntu machine is gone, is there some way to easily snatch screenshots from ssh when / if it comes online on our VPN?12:17
toffe(automatically starts vpn on boot)12:17
toffenot screenshots but camera shots12:17
habbasiAh, it is...12:17
OerHekshabbasi, not sure .. https://github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm12:17
TJ-toffe: does it get a fixed IP address, if not you'd need to have some way of detecting its VPN had been established12:18
toffeTJ-: yeah :) it does so I have a script checking if it gets an ip12:18
TJ-toffe: grabbing the far-end public IP should be useful too12:18
TJ-toffe: what country are you in?12:18
habbasiThanks, OerHeks and thanks for trying to help, eagle! :D12:19
toffeso getting a pretty good estimate if someone boots it locally12:19
TJ-toffe: might be worth talking ahead of time to your local police, so they're aware.That way, if you discover where the PC is/who has it, they'll be primed to react rather than you having to eexplain everything s l o w l y when time is of the essense12:19
toffeYeah they're informed. They went into the building eariler today.. Big hole in the wall hehe.12:20
toffeThey.. took pictures and sayd "bye"12:20
toffestupid lazy ass cops12:20
toffe said*12:20
TJ-toffe: well there's not much they can do is there? Prime their IT-aware people that you may get info on where the PC is and would they follow up on that info *immediately* if you pass it on12:21
toffeSeems like I need 3rd party sw to get a image12:21
TJ-toffe: does the PC have sshd active then, so you can get on it?12:22
toffeTJ- yeah :) even has my private public keys stored for faster access from home :P12:22
toffeSo i've moved the private keys here now and are ready to execute a lot of.. problems ;D12:23
TJ-toffe: you may be able to screen-grab using a form of "DISPLAY=:0 some-Xorg-tool /tmp/screenshot.png"12:24
OerHeksi wonder who will use the machine online, unlikely scenario12:24
popey_It's more likely to be sold / pawned or sold online.12:25
TJ-OerHeks: if they just plug it into their network it'll connect; most burglars are silly that way!12:25
toffeOerHeks: small chance. Even small chance it is not formatted right away . But if they plug it in and try to boot it for fun or someone buys it and does it :)12:25
toffeBut still its a laptop so most wont plugin etherent unfortunally12:25
toffeand wifi you need access to it to set12:25
achen_Hey guys when im trying to install ubu server 18.04 with raid, and i choose the software raid md option in the partition thing, it immideatly goes back to the language chooes options (first page) any idea why ?12:27
TJ-toffe: got great news for you: "xwd -display :0.0 -root -out /tmp/screendump.xwd" then pull the file to your local system using scp, then "xwud -in /tmp/screendump.xwd" :)12:29
TJ-toffe: you might want to prove that works over ssh beforehand12:31
popey_Probably easier to just use scrot. apt install scrot, export DISPLAY=:0.0 && scrot12:32
popey_oh, that's for screenshots and you want webcam?12:32
TJ-popey_: no apt-install required for xwd12:32
TJ-toffe: for webcam capture, " ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s 640x480 -i /dev/video0 -ss 0:0:2 -frames 1 /tmp/out.jpg "12:34
mra90why the heck I can not scp files - getting "Permission denied (publickey,password)." even though password is OK12:35
TJ-mra90: obviously it isn't - are you connecting as the correct user?12:36
mra90TJ-: yes12:37
mra90root in this case12:37
mra90I am sure password is fine, in fact I have chnaged it a minute ago12:37
aneonyou can find precise location from image exifdata12:37
TJ-aneon: webcam isn't going to add EXIF data and the PC is unlikely to have a GPS module12:40
TJ-mra90: are you able to 'ssh' to a remote shell as root@ ?12:41
mra90TJ-: I am not sure, how to check that?12:43
aneonTJ-: interesting12:44
TJ-mra90: "ssh -v root@yourhost"12:45
toffethanks TJ- :)12:45
cpcatWhen I mount a samba share from ubuntu in /etc/fstab irregardless of the user logging in, the group's read bit isn't set when viewed at the server end.    (Linux client, mac os x server)12:46
cpcatBut when I mount with mac clients it's read for both user and group.12:46
mra90TJ-: I fail at authentication stage12:46
mra90provide password and it refuses it12:47
vmontecoI've set up an Ubuntu VM under a windows 10. I'd like to set up a compose key as well to enable accentued characters while keeping the qwerty layout. But setxkbmap -option compose:rctrl does not seem to take any effect. Is there a step I forgot? (I use i3-wm so I can't access the usual settings menu in my current desktop environment.)12:49
analogicalwhy don't files show up on the desktop when I download them there?12:50
cfhowlett... "there" ... analogical huh??12:51
TJ-analogical: if you're using Gnome, that functionality to show was removed from Nautilus12:51
analogicalTJ-, you can't be serious?12:51
cpcatIs this because I'm mounting samba shares as root?12:52
analogicalI want to show files on the desktop!12:55
vmontecoanalogical: When you browse your desktop through a CLI, are you able to list the downloaded files?12:56
tomreynanalogical: which ubuntu version are you using there?12:57
cfhowlettTJ-= explain.  I'm on ubuntu 18.04 and downloaded a pdf to the desktop.  there it is ...12:57
analogicalvmonteco, yes I am12:57
analogicaltomreyn, 19.04 Gnome12:57
tomreynanalogical: on 19.04, the functionality of graphically interacting with files stored on the desktop is provided by a gnome extension, which is installed by default.12:58
tomreynanalogical: maybe you accidentially deactivated or uninstalled it?12:59
analogicalI'm uninstalling Ubuntu. A distro that behaves like this in not worth using.13:01
tomreynanalogical: that's up to you, bou you'll see the same effect with any other distro that uses current gnome13:02
tomreynsince that's where this changed13:02
cfhowlettagain: works perfectly fine on 18.04 LTS13:02
tomreynthe extension which ubuntu pushed for to be created to restore the desktop functionality is "gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons"13:03
analogicalI guess there'll be no more Gnome in my future then. I'll probably stick to using Manjaro with XFCE since I've never liked Xubuntu.13:04
cfhowlettyour box, your choice.13:04
TJ-analogical: that's a bit of an over-reaction. The functionality was taken out of Nautilus but it can be re-added via a shell extension. For the background read https://csorianognome.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/nautilus-desktop-plans/13:05
analogicalnah it's Manjaro from now on13:05
TJ-there's a good technical summary in the issue tracker at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/15813:07
annoyed-phoneUbuntu 18.10, using Ubuntu's built in encryption, can't get past initramfs at boot, apparently it doesn't know to ask for the decryption password. Full boot video. https://youtu.be/Nc0lALwvOoI13:09
TJ-annoyed-phone: are you at the initramfs shell now?13:13
annoyed-phoneTj- yes13:14
TJ-annoyed-phone: do you know which is the LUKS encrypted device? Use "blkid" to help identify it13:15
TJ-annoyed-phone: the check if this file exists: "ls -l /conf/conf.d/cryptroot"13:15
TJ-annoyed-phone: 'blkid' should show one device with  TYPE="crypto_LUKS"13:17
annoyed-phoneTj- https://i.imgur.com/8WfsJG7.jpg13:18
TJ-annoyed-phone: so /dev/sda313:18
TJ-annoyed-phone: does the 'cryptroot' file exist?13:19
stripehi all, ubuntu 18.04 is it possible to excite a shell script in ~/bin/ from the global search menu (instead of the default opening it in the text editor) cheers :)13:21
stripe*execute lol13:22
TJ-Anyone ideas on the root-cause of the various apt tools sometimes reporting similar to: "W: Unable to read /tmp/tmptzqgs3mx/apt.conf - RealFileExists (13: Permission denied)" (in this case add-apt-repository) ?13:22
cpcatWhy is it when the mount point of a linux samba client creates a file, it only has -rw-------+ from the server's perspective?13:22
OneM_IndustriesFor some reason, I seem to have lost the ability to share printers. I can select the shared option in CUPS, but as soon as I hit apply, it immediately switches back to not being shared.13:22
OneM_IndustriesAny ideas?13:23
OneM_IndustriesIt's a brother MFC if that helps.13:23
TJ-OneM_Industries: are you doing it through http://localhost:631/ ?13:23
cpcatbut when a mac client mount's and creates a file, the new file has rwxr-xr-x+ permissions for the same user logged in.13:23
annoyed-phoneTj- how do I check that? I can mount it from a live USB just fine, all my files are still there13:23
OneM_IndustriesTJ-: No, I was using the "Printers" utility, but that looks much better.13:23
TJ-annoyed-phone: as I said earlier, in the initramfs shell, then check if this file exists: "ls -l /conf/conf.d/cryptroot"13:24
TJ-OneM_Industries: Yes; I generally find the HTTP interface more capable and reliable13:24
TJ-OneM_Industries: although I don't 'share' printers in that way - I assume it relies on some Samba functionality13:25
TJ-annoyed-phone: if you have it mounted using a LiveISO, then check /etc/crypttab matches the /dev/sda3 UUID - it could be you've managed to generate the initrd.img file without it containing the cryptsetup tools and config files13:26
b1ack0pis it ok to install kernel 5 to ubuntu 18.04 ?13:27
cfhowlettb1ack0p= best to wait for it to hit mainstream13:27
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)13:27
OerHeksb1ack0p, only when it is given in !hwe13:27
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:27
OerHeksso no, not now13:28
annoyed-phoneTj- https://i.imgur.com/undefined.jpg13:28
TJ-annoyed-phone: I don't think that was what you meant to post!13:29
TJ-!info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge | b1ack0p13:31
ubottub1ack0p: linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge (source: linux-meta-hwe-edge): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)13:31
annoyed-phoneTj- it's not seeing it https://i.imgur.com/CnRySKL.jpg13:32
OerHeksTJ-, never looked at -edge, lots of issues btw13:34
TJ-annoyed-phone: the option is a lower-case "L" (l) not an "i" or "1" , but it looks as if the file is missing.13:34
tomreynb1ack0p: as TJ points out, linux 5.0 is now available in 18.04 and will get updates via linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge, but note that "edge" suggests it could be... edgy. this said, i'm using this on 18.04 for some days now and it works fine for me.13:34
TJ-OerHeks: I use -edge mostly, if not a mainline build13:34
Chaos_Zeroow the edge13:34
b1ack0ptomreyn: yea as it is stated stable version 5.1.3 so i thought i can install it13:35
b1ack0pwill it be available in ubuntu updates soon?13:35
TJ-'edge' just means it comes from the latest release, rather than the first LTS HWE version. 'edge' will become the standard LTS HWE at the next point release13:35
tomreynb1ack0p: where "it is stated stable version 5.1.3"?13:35
Chaos_ZeroHas anyone  ever come across a project to automate logins to free wifi (the captive portals?) One specific one happens to kick me off periodically and it is quite a disturbance.13:36
b1ack0pLatest Stable Kernel: 5.1.313:36
tomreynb1ack0p: right, this means that it has been chosen as a stable branch by the kernel developers. it doesn't mean that it will become available in existing ubuntu LTS releases.13:37
tomreyn!latest | b1ack0p13:37
ubottub1ack0p: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:37
lotuspsychjeChaos_Zero: seek for the origin why you are kicked off the ssid13:37
TJ-annoyed-phone: check if the initialramfs has the tools required to manually open the LUKS device: "cryptsetup --version" should report itself. If you get 'file not found' then you'll need to use the LiveISO and a chroot-mount to fix it. If it *does* exist you can manually unlock with "cryptsetup open /dev/sa3 sda3_crypt" and once you've entered the pass-phrase and it has opened it, you do "vgchange -ay" and13:37
TJ-then "exit" to continue booting13:37
b1ack0pok i will use what comes with the pack ...13:38
Chaos_Zerolotuspsychje: its not kicked off the ssid, I remain connected, but I need to go back to the captive portal login page and enter credentials again.13:38
tomreynb1ack0p: this said, it is possible that ubuntu packages providing this kernel for ubuntu 18.04 LTS *may* become available via !HWE in the future.13:38
tomreyn*kernel version13:38
lotuspsychjeb1ack0p: is there a specific reason you want the latest kernel, or just the idea to be on the latest?13:39
b1ack0pin the future :p13:39
b1ack0plotuspsychje: no i just like to stay up to date13:39
b1ack0pand curious about the new things changes ..etc13:39
leftyfbChaos_Zero: that is intentional by the captive portal. Getting around such a thing is not related to ubuntu and beyond the scope of this channel13:39
cfhowlettb1ack0p= bleeding edges are bloody.  patience is advised.13:39
b1ack0pi think i cant feel the changes in kernel13:39
tomreynb1ack0p: the older kernel versions do get security patches and bug fixes all the time. you are up to date in that sense.13:39
b1ack0pyes correct tomreyn13:40
annoyed-phoneTj- cryptsetup not found, getting the usb13:41
b1ack0pwhat s the best tool to play windows games on ubuntu? wine or playonlinux ?13:41
cfhowlett!steam | b1ack0p13:42
ubottub1ack0p: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.13:42
b1ack0pcfhowlett: for retro games which dont exist in steam13:42
achen_Hey guys is it possible to install ubuntu desktop18.04 with raid 0 ?13:42
achen_And if so, do you do it from the installation phase, on the pratitions?13:43
leftyfbachen_: yes. Though do you hate the data on it?13:43
cfhowlett!raid | achen_13:43
ubottuachen_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto13:43
lotuspsychjeb1ack0p: playonlinux is just a GUI for wine, it does the same13:43
achen_leftyfb : nope, fresh clean install13:43
b1ack0pi thought there is also gui version of wine?13:43
b1ack0pexcept playonlinux13:44
leftyfbachen_: right, my point is, RAID 0 = temporary data13:44
leftyfbachen_: you realize if one of the drives has an issue, you lose everything13:44
achen_leftyfb : well its thier choice so, guess it is what it is13:44
achen_leftyfb : where do you choose the raid option in the partition? cause it only gave me file foramts when i tried13:45
lotuspsychjeb1ack0p: lets stick to real ubuntu issues here, for chat try #ubuntu-offtopic13:45
leftyfbachen_: install using the mini.iso13:45
b1ack0plotuspsychje: i am not chatting13:46
achen_leftyfb : which iso is that ?13:46
achen_Ubuntu minimal install ?13:46
achen_Can i do with the regular iso aswell?13:47
pragmaticenigma!mini | achen_13:48
ubottuachen_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:48
achen_Is there a huge differene in the instllations or the important things it lets you choose in the options of the installation ?13:50
pragmaticenigmaachen_: What do you mean by difference, and what are you comparing?13:52
achen_he recommened me to install from the mini install instead of usual desktop to install raid 013:52
vmontecoIs there a feature with setxkbmap to display current settings?13:54
* pga welcomes myself.13:54
* pga means that ze welcomes zeself13:55
Fuchsvmonteco: -query13:55
pragmaticenigmaachen_: In the end there will be no difference in the installation. Mini gives you the option to install any of the official flavors of Ubuntu. It also has some advanced options for installation choices, including drive setup. The Desktop ISO is built and designed for simple installations. My suggestion is you try it out, become familiar with it and then ask questions as you encounter them.13:55
TikityTikanyone ever setup LUKS with btrfs?13:57
TikityTiknot sure how to setup LUKS at all. in post-installation atm13:57
pragmaticenigma!btrfs | TikityTik13:59
ubottuTikityTik: Btrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs13:59
pragmaticenigmaTikityTik: It's not a recommended setup. Btrfs is not considered stable, and data loss does happen frequently. I wouldn't recommend attempting to add encrpytion to that14:01
qwebirc62052how can i change ulimit -n to 2048 from 1024 in terminal ubuntu? thanks14:03
thsnrhave you tried: ulimit -n 204814:04
qwebirc62052no will do now14:05
Oolafter you can check the new value with ulimit -a14:06
AlexPortableHow can i control my fanspeed to make it not always on, and how can I enable multitouch on my touchpad?14:07
TikityTikpragmaticenigma: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Does_btrfs_support_encryption.3F says using luks on an encrypted partition is ok14:08
achen_pragmaticenigma : for some reaosn it won't let me boot the installation any idea why ? ( talking about the mini )14:10
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lotuspsychjeannoyed-phone: are you still with us?14:20
avrdudehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZJCm6grg9K/ why can this file not be preloaded from LD_PRELOAD?14:37
TJ-avrdude: what is the type of the file reported by 'file /usr/local/lib/test.so'14:43
avrdudeTJ-: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=dcc36172888f6d58c3c9aebffed0ce403e0a6b96, not stripped14:45
TJ-avrdude: is the host architecture also 32-bit? "arch"14:45
avrdudeTJ-: it's 64bit, but when I tried the LD_PRELOAD trick on my program (32bit), it said "from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored."14:47
avrdudeso i recompiled the .so to be 32bit14:47
ShikadiHenlo, "The following packages have unmet dependencies: git-gui : Depends: git (< 1:2.17.1-.)"14:47
vmontecoFuchs: Thank you!14:47
ShikadiI thought git-gui was supposed to be built in to git?14:47
Fuchsvmonteco: you're welcome :)14:49
TJ-avrdude: I've not used LD_PRELOAD with a different arch like that /but/ I'm wondering if the host linux loader (ld.so) is rejecting it due to it not matching14:50
pax_rhoshello again. So my troubles with GPU proceed.14:50
pax_rhosI've replaced older AMD GPU with a newer AMD GPU14:50
pax_rhosthe new one is Radeon HD 6850, and 'Additional Drivers' doesn't list any additional drivers as available14:51
pax_rhoshttps://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-hd/amd-radeon-hd-6000-series/amd-radeon-hd-6850 provides catalyst for linux for ubuntu 14.0414:51
pax_rhoswell, I'm on 18.0414:51
pax_rhosI wouldn't even bother with installing anything if not for that awful tearing when scrolling chromium14:53
TJ-pax_rhos: how about "lspci -nnk -d ::0300"14:54
vincenzoHi, I have a ryzen w b450m chipset, and only get processor sensors in lm-sensors. Also sensors-detect does not find anything. This is even with the newer 5.1 kernel. Anyone has advice? I would like to see the motherboard sensors.14:54
simonhi. my 'apt update' is broken; I'm on 17.10 (artful aardvark) and I get a 404 Not Found on da.archive.ubuntu.com; replacing this with some other mirror, e.g. en.archive.ubuntu.com is the same. I get 'Err:7 http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful Release  404  Not Found [IP: 80]' and 'E: The repository 'http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful Release' does not have a Release file.' -- what14:55
simon can I do to update/upgrade/distupgrade?14:55
pax_rhosTJ-: what about it? [AMD/ATI] Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850] [1002:6739]14:55
pax_rhosKernel driver in use: radeon, Kernel modules: radeon14:55
simonis this because 17.10 is no longer supported? if that's the case, can I simply circumvent this by pretending I'm a newer version?14:56
pax_rhossimon: dunno if that's actually so, but http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/14:57
TJ-pax_rhos: ok, so a driver has been selected "radeon"14:57
TJ-!oldreleases | simon14:58
OerHeksvincenzo, build lmsensors yourself? https://linuxconfig.org/monitor-amd-ryzen-temperatures-in-linux-with-latest-kernel-modules14:59
simonTJ-, I'd be interested to know how to deal with an old release.14:59
pax_rhosTJ-: should I try mesa?14:59
OerHeks Ubuntu 18.04.1, both it87 and nct6775 modules are included in the release.14:59
simonpax_rhos, I'm not sure how this applies.14:59
TJ-!eol | simon14:59
ubottusimon: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:00
vincenzoOerHeks: according to this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1091671/how-to-monitor-ryzen-temperatures-on-ubuntu-18-04 yes both modules are there, but I get "no such device" when I modprobe them...15:00
TJ-simon: the short answer you'll find there is to alter the /etc/apt/sources.list to use http://old-releases.ubuntu/com/15:00
pax_rhossimon: I meant that ubuntu link on that page leads to the same page (yet alters the url's path)15:00
OerHeksvincenzo, You might need to force an id for the module ( on that page)  sudo modprobe it87 force_id=0x862 or the other options15:01
vincenzoOerHeks: I used force_id and the module it87 IS loaded, but I see no newer sensors using the "sensors" command15:06
vincenzoAlso I have no service named lm_sensors to start15:06
simonTJ-, excellent, thanks. I'll try to perform a dist-upgrade that way. seems to go fine so far.15:07
tomreynvincenzo: /lib/systemd/system/lm-sensors.service (systemctl status lm-sensors.service)15:11
marcoagpintoguys?! Why does "Software Updater" ask for a password? Since it is part of the OS, why it does?15:12
Shikadimarcoagpinto: Security15:12
OerHeksmarcoagpinto, by design. nothing new15:12
OerHekssome updates require no pass, heavy ones like kernel and such do15:13
marcoagpintogood to know15:13
OerHeksother linux versions might ask for a pass always15:13
marcoagpintoI have been updating my VMs since a new version of VirtualBox is out. 2x18.04, 18.10 and 19.0415:15
marcoagpintoI update, then reboot, then install the guest additions CD15:16
pragmaticenigmaTikityTik: Support versus recommendation are two very different pieces. BTRFS is supported, and LUKS runs underneath the file system. What I'm pointing out is that btrfs isn't considered very stable and it is my opinion that you might want to consider a different file system that more individuals have experience with, should you encounter issues with your setup15:16
cyberphantonprint(hello world)15:17
sam_hi guys...!!!!!15:18
sam_Good UGT....!!!15:18
cyberphantonalguien que hable español15:18
cfhowlettcyberphanton= ask you ubuntu support questions15:18
cfhowlett!es | cyberphanton15:19
ubottucyberphanton: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:19
sam_i'm using ubuntu 14.0415:19
cyberphantonno have question sr15:19
sam_64 bit os15:19
OerHekssam_, sad to hear that, 14.04 is dead, EOL15:19
cfhowlettsam_= time to upgrade.   i  suggest 18.0415:20
sam_oh...but i'm using 14.04 LTS15:21
LopeI booted a live Ubuntu USB. `free -h` shows 6.6G in buffers/cache and 3.1G available. I tried to do an online expansion of the root cow filesystem "/cow on / type overlay (rw,relatime,lowerdir=//filesystem.squashfs,upperdir=/cow/upper,workdir=/cow/work)" like so. `mount /cow / -o remount,rw,relatime,lowerdir=//filesystem.squashfs,upperdir=/cow/upper,workdir=/cow/work,size=5G` it completed without error, but stayed 3.9G. Any ideas?15:21
cfhowlettsam_= and it is no longer supported.  upgrade.  or stay with an unsupported versoin and take your chances15:21
OerHekssam_, when you update, you are notified15:21
OerHeksLope, why should that work on the RO live iso?15:22
sam_OerHeks, i recently updated it too15:22
cfhowlett!14.04 | sam_15:22
ubottusam_: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade15:22
pragmaticenigmasam_: if you recently updated, you updated to a version that is also no longer supported. 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS are the only two current supported LTS releases.15:23
sam_:-( sad to hear that...15:23
LopeOerHeks, I just tried it hoping it might be resizable like tmpfs is.15:23
LopeOerHeks, now I'm asking the proper way to live resize an overlay filesystem because googling it didn't return anything relevant looking.15:24
OerHeksLope, sorry, i have no clue howto, install ubuntu on a 2nd usb?15:24
LopeOerHeks, nah, I just wanted to see if there's a way to do this.15:25
sam_OerHeks, will i get a help regarding an issue in that here?15:25
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | sam_= here's how15:26
ubottusam_= here's how: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:26
OerHekssam_, issues? no, 14.04 is dead, eol, upgrade to a supported ubuntu version15:26
sam_i don't know it's a issue or not...let me tell my issue..15:28
cfhowlettsam_= your issue is you are using a non-supported ubuntu version.  fix that first.15:28
sam_OerHeks, i'm having trouble in connecting mobile broadband...15:29
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tomreynsam_: there's no use in discussing 14.04 issues here since we won't be able to help you with those. there's one exception: if you are trying to do an !eolupgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 then someone *may* try to help you with that.15:30
sam_my dongle is detected but not connecting to internet...15:30
pga69_sam_: Do you have the device driver installed?15:31
OerHeksthat is good, 1 less vulnerable system15:31
pga69_OerHeks: XD15:31
OerHekskeep the internet safe, folks!15:31
sam_getting issue like this on connecting: ModemManager[668]: <warn>  Couldn't initialize PDP context with our APN: 'Sending command failed: 'Resource temporarily unavailable''15:32
tomreynsam_: please don't ignore what people have told you several times now, thanks.15:32
pragmaticenigmasam_: The volunteers in this channel cannot help you until you upgrade Ubuntu to the latest supported versions. There is absolutely no way for anyone here to support you since no one here is running that version of Ubuntu anymore since it has reached its end-of-life15:33
sam_also like this: NetworkManager[795]: <warn> (ttyUSB2) failed to connect modem: Sending command failed: 'Resource temporarily unavailable'15:33
sam_pga69: driver? I didn't install any such. how to do that? and thanks for ur positive reply..15:34
pragmaticenigmasam_: Please stop, until you upgrade Ubuntu. you will receive no further help15:35
sam_Guys...i'm in a situation to compulsorily proceed with my current version...sorry to disturb u all15:36
cfhowlettyou're forced to use a non-security updated OS?  really15:36
JimBuntusam_ /join ##linux for releases not supported here.15:37
pragmaticenigma!esm | sam_ - then this is your only option, and support will be provided through canonical directly.15:37
ubottusam_ - then this is your only option, and support will be provided through canonical directly.: Canonical offers paid extended security support for end-of-life LTS releases through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly.15:37
sam_ok...let me try ##linux...15:39
achen_Hey guys , is it possible to manually install ubuntu from "try ubuntu" with hardware raid configured ? ( i configured hardware raid but the installation doesnt recognize the disks , crashes, and throws me in the "try ubuntu" so ithought maybe to somehow try to do it manually)15:39
tomreynachen_: please do not cross post15:40
pragmaticenigma!raid | achen_ Did you look here as was pointed out earlier?15:40
ubottuachen_ Did you look here as was pointed out earlier?: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto15:40
achen_pragmaticenigma : it doesn't work as i mentioned it crashes on the partition phase and throws me to "try ubuntu"?15:41
achen_tomreyn : okay sorry :315:41
achen_ubottu : didnt' help15:41
jellyLope: what did "df /cow/upper" say?15:43
Lopejelly, doesn't work15:46
Lopedf: /cow/upper: No such file or directory15:46
LopeI can't even `cd /cow`15:46
Lope-bash: cd: /cow: No such file or directory15:46
Lopedon't worry about it. I thought it should be a simple thing?15:47
jellyLope: mm, so it's hidden now, can you pastebin the outputs of "mount" and "df"?15:47
Lopejelly, https://www.hastebin.com/ozotobizug.coffeescript15:48
jellyLope: I can't figure out a way to get to the filesystem beneath current / fs off the top of my head, sorry15:51
YounderIn linux you use partions so / should hole the root file.system and just about anything controlled by a .deb file. Use a seperate patrion for /home and one for /usr/local as it makes backups easier. using a separate partion for /var prevents DOS attacks from filling your disk.15:54
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sentimentI've been struggling with this post-login slownees for a few days15:58
sentimentI've also been researching about it using systemd-analyze output15:58
sentimentso far no gain15:58
sentimentall I know is that systemd-analyze blames NetworkManager-wait-online.service for the slowness however some guy on mint forums says it's not the culprit15:59
sentimenthe believes that the network is slow to signal the networkmanager service or something like that16:00
sentimenthowever Windows doesn't seem to suffer from this problem16:00
sentimentany thoughts?16:00
sentimentI have the systemd-analyze svg plot in case anyone needs it16:00
Youndersentiment, Have you been hacked? What control do you have over monitoring what goes in and out of your network?16:01
sentimentNetworkManager-wait-online.service @5.742s +6.611s16:01
sentimentnetwork-online.target @12.354s16:02
OerHeksmaybe unattended updates is the culprit?16:02
sentimentYounder: no I am not hacked, how did you arrive at that conclusion?16:02
sentimentOerHeks: apt updates? I don't see any mention of them in the systemd analyze output16:03
sentimentand it's everytime the system is boot up16:03
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sentimentso it can't be because of updates16:03
Youndersentiment, It was a question, not a conclusion. Sometimes phishing spreaders take up a lot of network activity slowing things down.16:03
BluesKajsentiment, "unattended updates" it's a thing in your package manager16:05
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BluesKajas OerHeks suggested16:05
sentimentYounder: I know, but it was too soon to ask that question imo. anyways  I'm safe :-)16:07
Mdlpehi, I have a small problem : http://dpaste.com/0SRMTH816:12
FranknogMdlpe: I would be worried too if my shell was in French16:14
lotuspsychjeMdlpe: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please?16:15
OerHeksFranknog, be helpfull, no need to be funny16:15
abdullahHi to All16:16
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OerHeksMdlpe, why did you download the source? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs16:17
OerHekssudo apt install libdvd-pkg && sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg # should do the trick16:17
FranknogOerHeks: sorry16:17
YounderOerHeks, why? More country formats? I remember getting BBC earth as a gift from the US and installing stuff to get it to play.16:21
MdlpeOerHeks, because I plan to compile a kernel16:22
lotuspsychjeMdlpe: we dont support own kernel compile, use !mainline instead16:23
OerHeksthen one should build that source, before deploying, i guess.. or use the build packages16:23
MdlpeOerHeks, looks good now ;-)16:24
OerHeksMdlpe, have fun!16:24
MdlpeOerHeks, thanks16:24
YounderCompiling a kernel is effortless testing it another matter. The old school technique is to use two machines and connect then by USB. By using GDB remote you can set breakpoints etc without halting the machine doing the debugging.16:25
Lopejelly, no worries16:26
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lotuspsychjesentiment: wick kernel are you on?16:45
sentimentwhat's the alternative to networkManager?16:48
lotuspsychjesentiment: there are other ways to speedup your boot time16:49
sentimentlotuspsychje: 4.18.0-20-generic16:49
sentimentwasn't there an older system before network manager?16:50
sentimentmaybe switching to that will fix it16:50
popey_sentiment: what's the goal? There's a couple of alternatives, but not as well developed as nm16:51
popey_connman and wicd were previously suggested as alternatives, but nm is way better IMO16:51
sentimentnetwork manager wait service is very slow16:51
sentimentand a web search brings up alot of people complaining about it16:52
lotuspsychjesentiment: is that afresh install or updated from?16:59
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lotuspsychjewelcome slimani17:47
slimani@<lotuspsychje> , thx! what is this channel for?17:49
lotuspsychje!support | slimani17:49
ubottuslimani: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com17:49
slimaniubottu, lotuspsychje thx.17:52
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killownWe cannot detect a running copy of GNOME on this system, so some parts of the interface may be disabled. See our troubleshooting entry for more information.18:32
killownhow can I enable extensions through gnome site?18:33
killownchrome-gnome-shell/disco,disco,now 10.1-5 all [installed]18:33
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killownstill not working18:33
GerowenRandom question.  Are SSH connections encrypted by default even if I don't set up private keys for each device?18:33
jcottonthe keys are for auth, not connection encryption18:34
killownAlthough GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected. Refer documentation for instructions about installing connector.18:34
OerHekskillown, some extentions need a logout/login, or gnome-tweak-tool to enable them18:34
Gerowenjcotton: That's what I thought since I get prompted to accept an RSA fingerprint when connecting before entering my username and password, but I was just curious.18:34
killownI want to install from here https://extensions.gnome.org/18:34
GerowenWell, when connecting for the first from a new device anyway.18:35
OerHekskillown, select your gnome version, that website has no sudo rights to look into your system18:35
OerHeks.. which is oke to me18:35
killownwhich doesn't look ok18:35
killownworks in archlinux18:36
killownshould work in ubuntu also18:36
OerHeksfile a bugreport then, i think it is by design18:36
killownubuntu is blocking for propositional not allowing the usage from the site, because you guys want people installing extensions from software center, which by design is terrible bad, no info, no pics18:37
tomreyn"you guys" = the volunteers supporting you here?18:38
killownterrible bad design, beyond terrible18:38
killownblocking user customization18:39
killownshould at least have a button to enable it back18:39
tomreynthis is a volunteer driven support channel, do you have a support question? your opinions on design are off-topic on this very channel.18:39
plongshot In my webserver's root dir I have dirs for subdomains as well as a dir for the primary domain. The ownership of the primary domain si  www-data : www-data   and of the other subdomain dirs it is root : root.  I don't want to break apache but I do want to have acess too.  What set of perms would be best for this?  myusername : www-data ?   www-data : some-group-im-in? Or something else? I want the best securyt without breaking18:39
plongshotapache and not have tu sudo to do stuff.18:39
plongshotCan anyone help?18:39
OerHekskillown, see part #2 https://itsfoss.com/gnome-shell-extensions/18:41
OerHeks"But in order to install extensions a web browser, you need two things: a browser add-on and .."18:41
killownBut in order to install extensions a web browser, you need two things: a browser add-on and a native host connector in your system.18:42
killownI have both18:42
thsnrplongshot: you an use ACLs to give additional permissions to files, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs18:42
de-factoi think its not a problem to use extensions.gnome.org, at least I always use them on 18.0418:42
killownchrome-gnome-shell/disco,disco,now 10.1-5 all [installed]18:42
OerHeksMake sure that either http://extensions.gnome.org is whitelisted .. https://extensions.gnome.org/about/#no-detection18:45
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leftyfbGuest56637: can we help you with something?18:49
killownthank you OerHeks but not working after all18:50
acehi all18:50
acehope u can help18:50
de-factohmm interesting, extensions.gnome.org worked on chrome, but now it only works on firefox with the add-on18:50
de-factoi am on 18.04 though18:50
acetrying to ssh into my OMV openmediavault nas drive at home from work18:51
acehave intalled putty on the win10 machine and entered the ip address to ssh into the omv18:52
plongshotthsnr: thanks It was mentioned in another channel too. I''ll have to learn about that.18:52
acecan connect to the omv command line18:52
de-factoace, you need the ip address from your home (modem?) bound to a dynamic dns entry, so you can use that to connect from work on a port (usually 22) which you would have to open in your router and forward to your nas drive18:52
acethanks de-facto have got that far18:53
blackflow!enter | ace18:53
ubottuace: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.18:53
leftyfbace: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu18:53
acesorry will do so18:53
leftyfbace: you're trying to ssh from a Windows machine to a OMV device which runs on Debian, not Ubuntu18:54
b1ack0phi. i think my source.list is not proper. i dont get any update for days. could you please check what s wrong?18:56
b1ack0pthis is my source.list : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rtxmXJYHdQ/18:57
Bashing-omb1ack0p: Sure we can look at it .. but what release do you have ?18:57
b1ack0pubuntu 18.04.218:57
acei am now trying to reverse ssh by selecting or adding a dynamic port to the tunnel and then trying to see the omv gui via firefox at work but i keep getting the connection was reset  , and my apologies again for not following the ettiquetearlier19:00
OerHeksb1ack0p, what does "sudo apt update "give?19:01
leftyfbace: you're trying to ssh from a Windows machine to a OMV device which runs on Debian, not Ubuntu. This is not supported here.19:01
OerHeksany packages held back?19:01
leftyfbace: To be even more clear, your question is how to setup a reverse tunnel using putty on Windows. Not even a linux question, let alone Ubuntu.19:02
aceleftyfb: i thought the cli commands were the same or similar across ubuntu and debian ie forgive my ignorance but are they not both linux distros19:03
Bashing-omb1ack0p: Looks good - depending on your use case, might want the bionic-backports and partner repos too, Mine: https://termbin.com/ccxq .19:04
leftyfbace: We do not support Debian here. But again, your issue is regarding setting up reverse ssh tunnels using putty on Windows. Not Ubuntu or Debian related at all.19:04
acei thought the ssh protocol was a linux command19:04
leftyfbace: please see #windows for support19:04
de-factokillown, dont use Chrom{e,ium} its looks as its broken (at least on 18.04). Firefox with the "GNOME Shell-Integration" extension seems to work just fine for me19:06
aceok will do, thanks, but could you clear my confusion, is the SSH tunnel protocol  linux or windows or generic to both19:06
blackflowde-facto: broken how?19:07
blackflowace: neither really, it was/is developed by OpenBSD, and it's operating-system independent.19:07
leftyfbace: protocols are typically OS agnostic19:07
Franknogace: I have never had a problem with SSH on Linux. never gotten it to work natively on Windows (though it is said that it will be reported "soon")19:07
de-factoblackflow, it wont let me enable the extension, or would it detect an installed chrome-gnome-shell19:08
Bashing-omde-facto: chromium here and no issues :)19:08
blackflowde-facto: snap or apt-installed?19:08
blackflowI think snap might have issue due to isolation.19:08
aceok, thank you, i had only ever used ssh  previously with ubuntu and linux mint19:08
de-factonative chromium-browser installed but used in incognito mode19:08
blackflowde-facto: "native" == via apt?19:08
de-factoi use it in incognito mode though19:09
b1ack0pBashing-om: if it is good why dont i get any update for days?19:09
pjsAnyone gotten python3-dbus to work with Python 3.7?19:10
de-factoit has a lot of bugs, sometimes crashing Xorg, white font on white background (download progress) on adwaita dark, no enable extenion in incognito mode etc pp19:10
blackflowb1ack0p: incredibly but it happens that Ubuntu has no updates for days, depending of course what you have installed. :)19:10
de-factogets worse with every release of chromium-browser, i blame the google devs19:10
b1ack0pblackflow: so ubuntu didnt release any update recently?19:11
Bashing-omb1ack0p: How many days ? 18.04 is stable now and there are not a lot of updates, I got 2 this morning relating to netplan.19:11
b1ack0pabout 4-5 days i guess19:11
b1ack0pusually everyday i get updates when i run the command19:11
blackflowusually there are, yes.19:11
b1ack0palso i added virtualbox ppa but it didnt install the latest version..19:11
blackflowb1ack0p: did you run apt update, between setting up the PPA and running install?19:13
andreabuonasera a tutti19:14
b1ack0pblackflow: no i directly added ppa into software & update manually19:14
blackflowciao andrea!19:14
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blackflowb1ack0p: not sure what you mean by that. yesterday you were running echo | sudo tee19:14
blackflowb1ack0p: ah, you mean the Add button on Other software tab19:15
b1ack0pwhat does echo | sudo tee do ?19:15
b1ack0pi added this ppa : deb [arch=amd64] http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic contrib19:16
blackflowb1ack0p: it echoes a string into command `tee` run as superuser. run  `man tee` to learn what tee does .19:16
blackflowin your case, you were trying to add a deb line into sources.list, but you botched it by missing the -a option for tee19:16
b1ack0pi really dont know what is tee19:17
blackflowb1ack0p: run `man tee`19:17
b1ack0pi did but still dont get it19:17
blackflowb1ack0p: you know what sudo does?19:18
OerHeksb1ack0p, what does "sudo apt update "give?19:18
OerHeksany packages held back?19:18
blackflowwith sudo you run a command with elevated privilege. to add a line of text into a file you could     echo "sometext" > somefile   .    But, if you `sudo echo ...` then it won't work because  >  is evaluated as a result of sudo command, therefore not run as superuser.19:18
b1ack0pOerHeks: it suppose to give any update brought by repositories19:19
blackflowb1ack0p: therefore the trick is to use the `tee` command, run via sudo, to do that. it's a trick.19:19
b1ack0pdamn this linux is too complicated :S19:19
blackflowit's not. normal people open a file with an editor :)19:20
OerHeksjust paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com19:20
de-factoace, there is also #networking #openssh and #windows on freenode :))19:20
b1ack0pOerHeks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pFRfSGXbvx/19:21
blackflowyou could also run    `apt list --upgradable | nc termbin.com 9999`     and post here the URL you get :)19:21
OerHeksoke, no issues, you have all the updates19:22
UserUSblack0p, what are you trying to do?19:22
acede-facto , thanks for the direction , trying to go there now19:22
b1ack0pUserUS: i m trying to get virtualbox 619:22
UserUSblack0p, is that native ubuntu and you're trying to download virtualbox 6 or is it a VM?19:23
b1ack0phola amigo19:23
b1ack0pUserUS: it is native19:23
OerHeksTEOSEOOOO, please, not again19:23
blackflow!ops  trollalert19:23
b1ack0pi installed vbox 5 but trying to update it to 619:23
* blackflow shakes ubottu19:23
b1ack0plol blackflow19:23
UserUSb1ack0p, https://tecadmin.net/install-virtualbox-on-ubuntu-18-04/19:24
UserUSsudo apt install virtualbox-6.019:24
b1ack0pUserUS: that s what i am trying to do19:24
b1ack0pUserUS: i added ppa19:24
b1ack0pdoesnt it suppose to bring latest update?19:24
b1ack0pwithout installing it?19:24
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UserUSwhat happens when you do apt-get install virtualbox-6.0?19:25
b1ack0pit installs now19:25
OerHeksb1ack0p, not sure that 3rd party ppa gives vbox 619:25
blackflowb1ack0p: no. virtualbox-6.0 is an entirely different package from virtualbox, as far as the package manager is concerned, it won't upgrade virtualbox to virtualbox-6.019:25
OerHekshere it says it does https://tecadmin.net/install-virtualbox-on-ubuntu-18-04/19:25
b1ack0pso before installing it should i purge old version?19:25
OerHeksgood luck19:26
UserUSthe instructions say to run the install command for it so I doubt it upgrades to it19:26
blackflowb1ack0p: if you had `virtualbox` installed from regular repos, then yes19:26
blackflowb1ack0p: btw this is done deliberately so that the oracle's PPA doesn't clobber the already installed packages. you have to explicitly install the package named specifically. so it's not a "newer version of package `virtualbox`". it's an entirely separate package from the PPA.19:27
UserUSif virtualbox is already installed, does it not work upgrading it from the GUI?19:27
OerHeksUserUS, seems not19:28
OerHeksseek support in their channel?19:28
OerHeksb1ack0p ^^19:28
b1ack0pi dont think it updates via GUI like windows19:28
UserUSodd. yeah auto-remove the old one and run the install for new version19:28
b1ack0pit is late19:28
b1ack0pi already run the command for 6 before removing old one ..19:28
UserUSeh, does it work?19:29
OerHeks!info virtualbox disco19:29
b1ack0p%97 downloaded19:29
ubottuPackage virtualbox does not exist in disco19:29
OerHeksdisco gives 619:29
OerHekssilly ubottu19:29
blackflowmaybe it doesn't see multiverse packages?19:30
b1ack0pit wanted me to remove old one O.o19:30
b1ack0pyay i have vbox 6 now :p19:30
b1ack0pdifferent icon19:30
blackflowb1ack0p: yes, the PPA package is made to be exclusive with default repo ones, so it'll try to uninstall19:30
tbrownhow do I register to get into off topic ubuntu could someone show me an example19:31
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.19:31
b1ack0pdamn it didnt start my installed windows 1019:32
b1ack0pi had to remove it19:32
UserUSyeah, you'll have to re add19:33
UserUSjust re-add the drives under global19:33
UserUSthen remake the VM and point to the drives. you have to redo the settings19:34
OerHeksb1ack0p, please watch your language, keep the channel family frienly, thanks19:34
gambl0reim using xubuntu and when i suspend it doesnt resume. any ideas?19:35
OerHeksgambl0re, on what hardware again? and what have you found sofar?19:37
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Guest17408TJ-, I need your help again :( Remember you were helping me resolve my sound issue yesterday?19:44
Guest17408Well when I restarted it stopped working again19:45
TJ-Guest17408: you altered a profile I believe?19:45
Guest17408yep in pavucontrol and that seemed to work. unfortunately now, it says no cards available in configuration and output devices19:46
OerHekshard boot after booting windows?19:48
plongshotIs there any way to recover a default (contents) configuration file if there is no backup?  To revert back to the default of that file?  I know sometimes you can find the ocntents online, but how to be sure it fits?19:54
EriC^^plongshot: configuration fie of what19:54
OerHeksplongshot, depends, lots of configs in your home are regenerated after delete & start app again19:54
sappheiros`libreoffice file` outputs "javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!" is this a bug?20:01
sappheiros"Please ensure that a JVM and the package libreoffice-java-common is installed." I will search for this from muon.20:02
daxsome parts of libreoffice only work if java is installed. it's not a dependency because most parts of libreoffice don't care20:02
sappheirosah, it's not ...20:02
sappheirosoh. so installing it is only to suppress that terminal text?20:02
sappheirosis it better to learn to ignore terminal text?20:03
sappheirosthat's not what i mean to ask20:03
sappheirosi mean: is it better to install packages you won't use just to ... never mind. i can think for myself.20:03
JontaDon't ignore terminal text. You don't always have to act on it, and you don't always have to read it20:05
daxmessages in the terminal from GUI applications are generally useless20:05
daxit's why nobody worries about ignoring them when they run GUI applications from e.g. a graphical menu, and can't see any of them20:05
trurlhi. after i reconfigured my network using netplan to use a bridge (for vms later using it too), unbound doesn't start anymore because the address it should bind to is not yet there when it comes up (May 20 17:35:36 q-sv unbound[638]: [1558366536] unbound[638:0] error: can't bind socket: Cannot assign requested address for 2a01:4f9:xx:xx::xx:xx [...] May 20 17:35:37 q-sv kernel: [    8.741954] IPv6:20:08
trurlADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): br0: link becomes ready)20:08
trurlwhat is the cleanest way to solve this?20:08
OerHekstrurl, did you run netplan apply after edit?20:11
trurlyes, i even rebootet (see timestamps)20:11
OerHeks sudo netplan try #If there’s any problem with the configuration file, you will see appropriate error messages here.20:12
OerHeksand your post is unreadable, netplan has a strickt makeup, can you post in on paste.ubuntu.com ?20:12
trurli dont think this is a netplan issue, its more a problem of order because the interface becomes ready AFTER unbound tries to bind to a specific address. but here you go: https://paste42.de/14408.txt20:17
OerHeksare you sure, eth0 ? ip a # would show the names20:19
trurlyes, it's eth020:19
trurli just don't understand why the order is messed up after introducing the bridge20:22
sappheirosdax: aren't messages in terminal from GUI apps basically for debugging?20:24
daxthat or random uninteresting warnings from libraries etc.20:25
TJ-trurl: how does unbound start? If it is a systemd unit then it needs to Wants=/After=systemd-networkd.service (or similar) - better still would have the unbound service depend on the device interface being up20:27
trurlTJ-: i guess, i just installed it on 18.04 using apt... let me check20:28
b1ack0phow can i add screenshot on launchpad bug report?20:32
AGUStinHola hola hola hola20:33
TJ-trurl: or possibly Requires=  - what you need is to check the interface is up before starting that service, I guess?20:34
jcotton!es | agu20:34
ubottuagu: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:34
jcotton!es | AGUStin20:34
ubottuAGUStin: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:34
AGUStinY teito hola20:35
TJ-trurl: presumably you want unbound to use br0 ?20:36
AGUStinTe estoy esperando20:36
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trurli want it to bind to a specific address which happens now to be used by br0. before my changes (introducing the br0 device) everything was working20:37
Sushi-san!es | AGUstin20:38
ubottuAGUstin: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:38
AGUStinY teito hola20:40
jcottonAGUStin: this channel is English only, please use #ubuntu-es20:40
Jontab1ack0p: Upload it somewhere and provide a link?20:41
b1ack0pok done20:43
carogahi all! Looking for a way to get touchpad gestures on my laptop with ubunty 18.04. What is the defacto nowadays ? I see that it's either FUSUMA or the GESTURES frontend gui for linbinput-gestures. What would be recommended?20:48
Franknogmy Ubuntu server install has said 6% 10 minutes battery for half an hour now20:49
trurlTJ-: ok, i googled and i changed "After=network.target" to "After=network-online.target" in /lib/systemd/system/unbound.service and this seems to work :) thanks nonetheless20:50
OerHekscaroga, fusema i guess, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1034624/touchpad-gestures-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts20:50
OerHekstrurl, good find20:50
trurlthis is a good answer: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/126009/cause-a-script-to-execute-after-networking-has-started20:51
carogaOerHeks, yeah I figured but this is also a recent entry. But if it's all the same than I'd just go with the most recent / easy one: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/linux-touchpad-gestures-app20:52
qwebirc62904udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured     Had a bad stick of ram durring an upgrade...20:52
qwebirc62904we replaced the stick of ram20:53
qwebirc62904but there are problems20:53
qwebirc62904I got a bunch of screenshots20:53
trurlusing a bridge seems to slow down the process of the network config coming up and "Wants=network.target" seems to start the unbound service _at the same time_ as the network. at least thats what i'm guessing, i still need to find my peace with systemd20:53
AGUStinY teooooooooooooo20:55
blackflowtrurl: you can change it to Wants=network-online.target20:55
AGUStinEs joda20:56
blackflowah... it's been mentioned. just scrolled up.20:56
AGUStinDale Teo20:56
Sushi-san!ops please remove AGUstin; they are a troll that keeps rejoining20:56
ubottuSushi-san: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:56
mmercerhey folks -- what is the proper way of configuring ubuntu for ldap via NON interactive format20:57
AGUStinMe equivoque20:57
daxAGUStin: ubuntu support only. no chat.20:57
mmercerseems really stupid to force/assume that all environments are going to have users manually configure ldap on every server... but every time ive installed libpam-ldap and nscd, sure enough, it forces the dialogue window20:57
daxAGUStin: no20:58
rebabCan you help me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/br8Bh6ksTb/20:59
Bashing-omrebab: What is your question in respect to what 'find' dispalys ?21:00
rebabThere are two test.org files but I can't reach second one.21:01
floOppei have a short question what does this command exactly? sudo lan-s /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt << a user in a steam forum gave me that recommend. he told me that can fix a problem with EAC = Easy anti cheat .. can this command harm my system integrity?21:01
mmercerfloOppe: im assuming thats ln -s, not lan -s21:02
floOppesudo ln-s /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt21:02
floOppeok sry21:02
floOppewhat it does?21:03
mmercerit creates a softlink from etc/pki/tls/cert.pem to /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt and i would not be running that since youre overwriting your CA certificate store21:03
Bashing-omrebab: What is yopur `Present Working Directory` ? if you 'list' with out the leading dot ` ls -al /home/coo/Desktop/test/test.org ` what happens ?21:03
floOppecan this harm my pc? or is this good to fix my problem with EAC=Easy anti cheat? i try to join a official server ( 7 days 2 die ) i get a error message .. the sandbox isent active.21:05
floOppeplatform = steam21:05
floOppedo u like a link from the steam forum? i can show u where i found this recommend .. from a user21:06
floOppeim just a bit confused ... why this user gave me this recommend. :/ for a fix21:08
tomreynfloOppe: we do not know. but it is, at best, a very bad recommendation (you should never make system-wide changes which ahve security implications like this just to change how a single application behaves). and anything beyond this is not a matter of ubuntu support.21:10
floOppety for your suggestion!  i doesent use this command! here is the link from steam: https://steamcommunity.com/app/519190/discussions/0/1474221865185075106/21:11
floOppety for help!21:11
b1ack0pthere are more than 1 same app in app store21:17
b1ack0pwhy is that so?21:17
b1ack0pfor example inkscape21:17
OerHekssoftware store tells if it s a snap, or deb21:17
b1ack0pso 1 deb 1 snap for same app?21:18
b1ack0pyes u are right21:18
OerHeksb1ack0p, yes, that happens, stable tested, or from a developer/packager  a newer version21:18
b1ack0p1- source : ubuntu-bionic-universe21:18
OerHeksand in snap there are levels too, stable, testing and such21:18
b1ack0p2- source : snap store21:18
OerHekscheck snapcraft page for details21:19
b1ack0pwhich one is better or stable?21:19
b1ack0por preferred?21:19
OerHekssnaps update with their own mechanism, that is a plus21:19
OerHeksbut if you want stable and maybe not all new functions, go fro deb21:20
b1ack0pwhy different packages in ubuntu?21:20
b1ack0pi mean snap and deb is confusing..21:20
OerHeksbecause snaps are integrated too21:20
b1ack0pi mean 1 of them is not necessary21:21
OerHeksi would like to see an option for deb/deb+snap/deb+snap+flatpack, but that is feature21:21
b1ack0pshould be snap or deb21:21
OerHeksthat is your opinion :-) and that is fine21:21
OerHeksalso there is app image, another ditributing system, but no updates AFAIK21:22
b1ack0pnever heard21:22
Alabalisticthe only downfall of using snap and flatpak on the same install is just one more deamon running21:22
Alabalisticjust opinion21:22
OerHeksflatpack is still in development, lots of issues with that21:23
b1ack0pOerHeks: app image is a good idea21:23
b1ack0pglobal linux app21:23
OerHekslet there be choice21:23
OerHekssnap is the ubuntu way21:23
b1ack0pi didnt see any store in other distros21:23
b1ack0ponly ubuntu it seems21:24
b1ack0pand app store makes it feel like macos/commercial21:24
b1ack0pi think all apps should be universal windows/mac/linux :p21:25
b1ack0pso we can play pc games in all platforms21:25
jcottonthat's a tall order21:25
alimsahyhi guys21:34
tatertotzb1ack0p sounds warm and fuzzy....but since corporations by design have to make "profits"..it sound more like cinderella or snow white and the 7 small men21:57
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b1ack0ptatertotz: what?21:58
Guest17408alsa -l no sound cards available no sound on ubuntu22:14
Guest17408any help?22:14
nyTnightCan ftp (program) be removed without effecting sftp (program) on ubuntu server 18.04?  ( ie: sudo apt purge ftp )22:19
nyTnighthow can I tell if one program depends on another in ubuntu 18.04?22:28
TJ-myself: "apt-cache depends <package-that-may-depend-on-another> | grep <package-to-be-removed> "22:31
xamithanProbably with an apt-cache depends packagename22:36
clewwho is there.?22:37
_KaszpiR_nyTnight yeah, sftp is not really that much related to ftp22:38
sappheiroshow do i terminate a process or program that's draining my cpu or ram?22:39
sappheirosfrequently a webpage will freeze my computer and i've been hard-powerbutton-off as solution :(22:39
_KaszpiR_kill <process_id>22:42
_KaszpiR_or if you're not asking politely then kill -9 <process_id>22:42
_KaszpiR_find process id in second column form left using ps -aux22:42
sappheiros_KaszpiR_: falkon & output `[2] 2078` but then `kill 2078` returned 'bash: kill: (2078) - No such process'22:45
sappheiroswhat is that number if not a process id?22:45
rfmsappheiros, it's the process id of the process the shell started; that process could fork another process to do the actual work and then exit, so some other process id is what's running.22:49
sappheiroshow am i to know what process ID to use with the kill command?22:50
sappheirosoh, looks like 'pkill'22:50
rfmsappheiros, I find "top" the most convenent way to find a runaway process22:50
sappheirosi just 'pkill falkon' and instead of returning the process id, it terminated the program -- and then it automatically restarted!!22:51
rfmsappheiros, I always find pkill a little scary since it will kill all the matching processes, though in this case there probably aren't any "falkon" processes running you don't want to kill22:52
jdrAre there any store bought machines that ship with linux installed? I know Dell has the XPS line of laptops...23:02
sappheirosi just opened featherpad but how do i find it in `top`?23:02
AlabalisticSystem 76 in USA23:02
jdrThank ya Alabalistic23:02
jbg_hi, sorry to bother you with this  html question, but it's harder to google than I thought. I went to https://news.sky.com/watch-live  . If you go there, you will see that the background is mostly white. I just wanted to make my own of night mode and change it to #0000000. I opened dev tools in Chrome, edited it from pagecolor"#ffffff" but nothing happend. What should I do?23:03
sappheirosi found it for a moment, but `top` keeps changing23:03
sappheirosjbg_: try #chrome ?23:03
Alabalistichttps://www.entroware.com/store/ for Europe23:04
sappheirosfeatherpad isn't showing up in `top` any more :( kill doesn't seem a good means to unfreeze a computer23:04
jdrI'm in the lower US.23:04
jdrChecking s76 stuff out of right no23:04
jdr*out right now23:04
AlabalisticLinux Mint official website there is some interesting no moving parts small form pc23:05
jdrI like their Thelio model, but not with that gaudy wood grain stuff on the front of the case.23:06
sappheirosjdr: paint it a different color :D23:06
jdrhaha yes. We have a dude in town that does hydrodipping, so I guess that would be an option23:07
AlabalisticThelio model is the new buzz in all Linux Podcasts, everybody love it23:09
Guest17408how do i reload sound card drivers if not being recognized in ubuntu?23:22
GoopHow do you install luasql-mysql on a Ubuntu machine for Lua5.2 using Luarocks?23:26
Alabalistictry cold reset, shutdown , remove all power battery etc. and press the start botton for at least 30 sec. Often solve hardware problems23:26
Alabalistic@Goop do you have installed tthe Luarocks?23:31
GoopAlabalistic, yes.23:31
GoopAlabalistic, every time I install luasql-mysql, it installs it for Lua5.1, when I need Lua5.2. I have even tried the --lua-version=5.2 flag.23:31
Alabalistictry this: uarocks install luasql-mysql23:31
Alabalisticsorry no idea23:33
sere_anyone know how to get facebook to work with pidgin23:45
Franknogsere_: I feel like they said they were going to support XMPP, but then went back after less than a year23:48
Franknogsere_: I had it working once, but have long since deleted FB23:48
sere_Franknog:  I used the purple facebook plugin recently but cant seem to get it to work now23:49

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