Unit193I remembered, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages is supposed to be only devel release, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages was for past.00:40
Unit193Past == current, lts.00:40
Unit193Oh well.00:40
bluesabreworking on packaging -session now00:41
Unit193I had a note about that one...00:41
Unit193Oh yes!  Please drop the duplicate line.00:41
Unit193 debian/55xfce4-session etc/X11/Xsession.d/00:44
Unit193 debian/defaults.list etc/xfce4/00:44
Unit193+debian/55xfce4-session etc/X11/Xsession.d/00:44
bluesabreWill do00:44
Unit193(I was looking http://deriv.debian.net/Ubuntu/patches/x/xfce4-session/xfce4-session_4.12.1-6_xfce4-session_4.12.1-6ubuntu1.debian.patch)00:45
Unit193If I may, now might be a handy time to  light-locker | xfce4-screensaver | xscreensaver  :>00:46
* Unit193 shuts it, now.00:46
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bluesabreUnit193: all good suggestions :)02:03
bluesabreI think I have the merge/new release/cleanup package ready... going to test before sending off to eoan02:04
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Drop session splash property, no longer available as of xfce4-session 4.13.2 @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=4e99049190d936f45ac5faa80804d0b75f1ef920 (by Sean Davis)02:40
Unit193bluesabre: Oh, sorry I never got around to putting it into a good list, http://paste.openstack.org/show/0LjyD2RzIoKjsz7k2V31 is all I have so far.02:57
bluesabreUnit193: thanks!03:03
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Release xubuntu-default-settings 19.10 @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=d930fd068580eb50baeebe14664751eab79863df (by Sean Davis)03:11
bluesabreUnit193: it doesn't get said enough, but thanks for all the help you give with packaging (and many other things)... it keeps everything running smoothly :)03:23
Unit193Hey, you do work upstream, I just gotta make sure I do something!  I'm glad I can help.03:23
Unit193Gah, xfce4-panel uses AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR not AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS. :/03:24
bluesabreUploaded a new xfce4-session, xubuntu-default-settings, and xubuntu-artwork to eoan. Time for bed!03:25
ochosiUnit193: indeed, agreed with bluesabre - thanks a bunch!06:50
ochosiif you guys have patches for session we should/could upstream lemme know06:51
Unit193ochosi: Not that you didn't already know, but confirmed that the new panel fixes my issue. \o/06:56
ochosinoice :)07:01
ochosiregarding AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS please submit a patch if you can07:01
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-Xfce-4-14pre1-released-tp53656.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)07:18
ochosiok pushed07:18
Unit193Now to find the rest of them. :/07:19
Unit193Going to push xfconf with gsettings package available to experimental, I think.07:42
Unit193(It can't harm anything, if nothing else then remove the package. :P)07:42
bluesabrehuh https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/xfwm410:47
bluesabreOne thing I see is that we should likely enable colord support in the -settings build10:49
bluesabrenot sure what other new flags and optional features we need to enable across the board10:50
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k3dar7hi, can please anyone say me if Xfce 4.14pre will be avaiable in PPA also for 18.04? (=latest LTS) thx :-)16:39
k3dar7 hi, can please anyone say me if Xfce 4.14pre will be avaiable in PPA also for 18.04? (=latest LTS) thx :-)22:04
Unit193Not really, 'Long Term Support' and the concept of highly stable release doesn't exactly mix well with a pre-release desktop.22:06
Unit193More specifically: Thunar in 18.04 is GTK2, if you push the GTK3 one to a PPA any plugins built for the former will no longer function, meaning every one in the archive.22:07
k3dar7Unit193: thx for answer, but from xubuntu-dev i already have in 18.04 most Xfce 4.12/13 packages in GTk3, Thunar 1.8.4 is i think too GTk3:22:10
k3dar7ldd `which thunar` | grep -i gtk22:10
k3dar7libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 (0x00007f178b6e0000)22:10
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=bionic not from ours.22:12
k3dar7ok, now is not in ours repository, but sure i intall it from it before ;-) timestamp of thunar 20190306-0037, package version 1.8.4-1~18.0422:21
k3dar7and in /usr/share/doc/thunar/changelog.Debian.gz i see your nick ;-)  -- Unit 193 <unit193@ubuntu.com>  Tue, 05 Mar 2019 18:37:02 -050022:21
k3dar7btw: sorry, timestamp is in CET22:22
Unit193Only other place I push things is my own https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce/+packages, I may have backported it to experimental during some testing or something, but it shouldn't have been in March..Huh.22:23
k3dar7yes, i have set all ours ppa's ;-)22:23
k3dar7btw: now i manually build from source thunar-xfce-4.14pre1.tar.gz and run ok22:25
k3dar7in apt log i only see installed thunar_1.8.4-1~18.04_amd64.deb, but not from what ppa, sure not from your persolal, strange :-)22:29
k3dar7anyway, sure you not add 18.04 as target for build? to experimanetal xubuntu-dev ppa?22:29
Unit193I mean if Sean tells me to then sure, but I dislike long commitments, so I try to keep the experimental desktop only on the latest release.22:31
Unit193Hrm, most everything is already there, so if folks are fine with breakage...22:34
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k3dar7i sure fine with total breakage of me system, not problem ;-) as i say, i have (>=half year) enabled all ours ppa for latest Xfce package installed, and none problem, only before some month i miss some package, and someone make build after i ask, also i test reborn thunar-shares-plugin from source and same people add after this to ppa :-)22:37
k3dar7if is not possible add build for 18.04 then i build all xfce packages from git self, but is sure better have it from ppa :)22:38
Unit193Yeah I remember thunar-shares-plugin, that was me too.  I keep it in extras now.22:40
k3dar7oh, it's you, i'm sorry i forgot :-)22:43
Unit193Meh, nicks are hard, I don't mind that you forgot.22:43
Unit193Hrm, how many gtk2 plugins are there for the panel in bionic..22:53
Unit193A lot, OK maybe not that one.22:53
k3dar7i don't know :-) but xfce4-panel i have 4.13.3-1ubuntu1~18.04 a this is already GTk3 and all plugins (i use) work wine :-)22:56
Unit193..OK, now where did you get *that*?22:56
k3dar7all from xubuntu-dev ppa's ;-)22:57
k3dar7is on me primary/alldays notebook where i run update every day, then if someone put package in experimental ppa, i have updated :) if next day is removed i don't know but package ofcourse keep installed :)22:59
Unit193...Perhaps run  LANG=C apt list | grep ed,loc  ?23:00
k3dar7from "dpkg -l | grep -i xfce"23:01
Unit193Actually, the command I wrote should list all the packages that can no longer be fetched.23:02
k3dar7i know, i make list before you write :-) here is what you ask: https://pastebin.com/raw/piMYKsaF23:03
k3dar7(with removed non-xfce packages)23:03
Unit193...Huh, that's odd.23:04
k3dar7desktop i have superstable with this :-)23:04
k3dar7btw: now i try manualy make all this packages https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/xfce_4.14pre123:07
k3dar7and see if is buildable on 18.04...23:07
Unit193Well, I'm actually pulling thunar back to 18.04 after all, just not the panel.23:10
k3dar7thanks :-) any chance you pulling back for 18.04 also others 4.14pre1 packages? :)23:22
k3dar7in me simply test, xfce4-panel is not build, but i hope because have bad/older -dev packages?23:23
Unit193Everything except the panel is, so far.23:24
k3dar7ah, your best :-)23:26
Unit193(xfce4-panel would just require too many rebuilds, and isn't like how thunar handles it.)23:27
Unit193ochosi: Right, so remember how I said no backporting to Bionic?  Well looks like I lied, only xfce4-panel didn't make it.23:27
k3dar7Unit193: i reload desktop after upgrade and at first look, work fine :-) thanks again23:44
k3dar7Unit193: can you please also add xfce4-terminal and xfdesktop4?23:48
Unit193Terminal is complicated because of vte incompatibilities, xfdesktop is just waiting for thunar to publish.23:49

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