[00:15] <Kumool> Does anybody know of a mouse gesturing application?
[00:26] <well_laid_lawn> Kumool:  what are you looking to do or what do you mean by mouse gesturing ?
[01:48] <Kumool> argh
[01:48] <Kumool> left
[01:48] <Kumool> dangit
[01:51] <Kumool> So because X seems to hang/freeze and eat up key events except for the mouse which is the only thing that is responsive, I was wondering if there was a mouse gesturing thing that I could use for restarting the computer whenever that happened
[01:52] <Kumool> mouse gestures like opera gestures and so on, basically the moves in a certain way and it performs an action
[01:52] <Kumool> thats a gesture
[01:52] <Kumool> i think
[05:17] <gimpnixon> hey everyone!
[05:17] <xubuntu14d> Hi everyone i need help, i'm new to linux and i can not install vlc media player to see a movie thanks
[05:20] <xubuntu48d> Hi everyone i need help, i'm new to linux and i can not install vlc media player to see a movie thanks
[05:20] <gimpnixon> I was sent over here from #ubuntu when i asked about changin themes on my system, I recently stripped it down because i was having some issues with my desktop environment, I'm using a base system now with only Compiz and Xfce4 panel and thunar. the only issue i'm having is I have not been able to find a way to change my theme across the board. Emerald worked sort of, but was limited in scope. so i
[05:21] <gimpnixon> switched to gtk-window-decorator and havn't been able to consistently change my theme in any way, and also unable to tone down the blinding white background on thunar as well. I read about chaning gtkrc and gtk2.0 css, and have not had luck with that either, any suggestions woudl be awesome, thank you all
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> !themes
[05:25] <gimpnixon> well_laid_lawn unhelpful
[05:25] <well_laid_lawn> k
[05:25] <gimpnixon> thank you for the reply though really
[19:13] <louigi> Hey everyone! Installed Xubuntu 18.04. Laptop is Lenovo X1 Carbon. When I am locking my screen, it goes blank. I then either have to type my password in the dark or reboot. Can this be fixed? Googling has not yielded helpful results.
[19:14] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: it only happens on 18.04.2 not 18.04.1 IIRC
[19:14] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: Ctrl+Alt+F1 then Ctrl+Alt+F8
[19:14] <pmjdebruijn> is a workaround
[19:14] <pmjdebruijn> or just install 18.04.1 and don't install the kernel 4.18 hardware enablement stack
[19:16] <louigi> pmjdebruijn: Ha! So it's a known issue?
[19:16] <louigi> This is like a huge bug, I must say
[19:16] <louigi> Will try the shortcuts later (the laptop is not with me now). Is there anywhere I can read about this?
[19:17] <pmjdebruijn> I don't have the bug entry handy
[19:17] <pmjdebruijn> i'm not sure if the 18.04.2 ISO actually has an option to install without HWE kernel
[19:17] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: it's a bug, though not huge
[19:17] <louigi> I did not see such an option
[19:17] <pmjdebruijn> then just download the 18.04.1 ISO, and then update
[19:18] <brainwash> you can downgrade also, can't you?
[19:18] <pmjdebruijn> not sure
[19:18] <pmjdebruijn> can you with a HWE?
[19:18] <pmjdebruijn> since it also involves Xorg?
[19:18] <pmjdebruijn> without huge risk?
[19:18] <brainwash> I'd think it's just a package downgrade
[19:19] <brainwash> well, replacement actually
[19:19] <louigi> This is a new laptop, so I can, of course, reinstall, although it's strange to install an older version... Well. Not so strange in Linux world, but still, I hope this will be fixed?
[19:19] <louigi> On the other hand, 18.04 came out a year ago...
[19:19] <pmjdebruijn> it's not an older version
[19:19] <pmjdebruijn> 18.04.1 ships the original kernel which 18.04 was released with
[19:19] <pmjdebruijn> 18.04.2 ships with the kernel 18.10 was originally released with
[19:19] <louigi> Oh, and the other one is with HWE
[19:19] <pmjdebruijn> the .2 release have newer kenels with shorter support, to be able to support new hardware
[19:20] <louigi> Nice. Xubuntu site said nothing about it.
[19:20] <pmjdebruijn> everything else between 18.04.1 and 18.04.2 is the same except for some bugfixes, which you'll be able to download after install in any case
[19:20] <louigi> Ok, I will consider re-installing. This is such BS.
[19:20] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: this is common practice in all ubuntu variants for quite a few years now
[19:20] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: bugs happen sadly
[19:20] <louigi> pmjdebruijn: Interesting, I have 14.04 and 16.04 and had no issues
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> louigi: i'm not sure how that's relevant
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> regression just happen at some point
[19:21] <louigi> Anyway, thank you for your help. Btw, the suggested shortcuts workarounds - what will they do?
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> where and when is arbitrary
[19:21] <louigi> Sure
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> install 18.04.1 isn't a workaround
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> it should be a fix
[19:21] <louigi> I meant what you initially suggested
[19:21] <pmjdebruijn> the bug does not exist in 4.15 kernel, which will be support for the entire 18.04 lifecycle
[19:22] <pmjdebruijn> at least if I'm not mistaken
[19:22] <brainwash> It's an Xorg thing I'm pretty sure
[19:22] <brainwash> with version 1.20
[19:22] <pmjdebruijn> oh well "HWE" thing
[19:23] <brainwash> bug 1801609
[19:23] <pmjdebruijn> for practical purposes I consider a HWE usually as an inseperately combination of kernel+xorg, although they may be seperable :)
[19:32] <louigi> brainwash: Thank you!
[19:32] <louigi> pmjdebruijn: Thank you!