[06:18] <didrocks> good morning
[06:28] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:30] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:30] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[06:31] <duflu> Morning didrocks, oSoMoN, seb128 and Wimpress
[06:32] <seb128> hey Wimpress duflu
[06:32] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN
[06:34] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, didrocks
[06:34] <oSoMoN> hey Wimpress, duflu
[06:34] <didrocks> hey duflu, seb128, Wimpress, oSoMoN
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[07:21] <Nafallo> morning
[07:30] <duflu> Morning Nafallo
[07:35] <oSoMoN> hey Nafallo
[07:35] <Nafallo> how's things in Desktop land? :-)
[07:36] <duflu> Desktoppy
[07:36] <Nafallo> :-D
[07:58] <seb128> jamesh, weekly status reminder?
[07:59] <duflu> What the hell Chrome? Still showing the 13th as the latest
[08:02] <Laney> morning
[08:03] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:03] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[08:04] <duflu> Right. Just deleted cookies from this week and all is well
[08:05] <jamesh> seb128: thanks.  Filling it in now.
[08:07] <seb128> jamesh, thx
[08:08] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? how was London?
[08:08] <didrocks> good morning Laney! I hope your day in London made it worse the additional time you spent in transportation :)
[08:10] <Laney> hey duflu oSoMoN seb128 didrocks
[08:11] <Laney> yeah good, I took the opportunity of being there to go to a parkrun ;-)
[08:11] <Laney> but then basically went home, had a nap and went to eurovision
[08:11] <Laney> congrats .nl
[08:12] <Laney> hope you all had nice weekends!
[08:16] <seb128> relaxing yeah :)
[08:27] <seb128> kenvandine, eog-master snap started to fail build because they updated the librsvg requirement to a version that is only in disco and that's not where the snap builds ... unsure what's best to workaround, maybe build librsvg in the snap for now?
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[10:33] <Laney> BI LE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[10:34] <Laney> anyone know how to fix https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/3724/publish/2/info/ ?
[10:44]  * Laney did it manually using LP API for now
[10:47] <Laney> probably would help if I selected the right release ... maybe that was it ...
[11:19] <seb128> yeah
[13:10] <kenvandine> seb128: yeah, i was working on that yesterday
[13:20] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, good :)
[13:30] <seb128> ok, it's meeting time!
[13:30] <kenvandine> indeed
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-05-21
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 21 13:30:40 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <kenvandine> o/
[13:31] <seb128> didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <oSoMoN> 🐵/
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> hello
[13:31] <didrocks> hey
[13:31] <seb128> let's get started :)
[13:31] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
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[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:31] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> unassigned ones which are not in progress/fix commited
[13:32] <seb128> bug #1734887
[13:32] <ubot5> bug 1734887 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Cosmic) "No caps lock indicator on login screen" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734887
[13:32] <seb128> while it would be good to fix I don't think it's important enough to be rls targetted
[13:33] <seb128> Trevinho, is that something you plan to backport/include on older series?
[13:33] <didrocks> for 2 months of support? time for the SRU to get in, get it out of -proposed…
[13:34] <seb128> it impacts bionic as well (which is the serie we currently review)
[13:34] <Laney> more bugs being directly nominated ._.
[13:34] <seb128> Laney, I know ...
[13:34] <kenvandine> not going to be able to stop that :/
[13:34] <seb128> I wonder if that power could be restricted :/
[13:34] <seb128> anyway, doesn't change much, if it had been tagged we would review it the same way
[13:34] <didrocks> seb128: ah sorry, mislead by the title :)
[13:34] <seb128> I vote -1
[13:34] <Laney> yep
[13:35] <oSoMoN> I vote -1 on didrocks's proposal to retire bionic in 2 months
[13:35] <seb128> ok, let's un-target (unless Trevinho already decided to backport/include in the next upload in which case he can take it)
[13:35] <seb128> oSoMoN, :)
[13:35] <seb128> next
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1798074	
[13:35] <ubot5> bug 1798074 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Bionic) "LIbreoffice crashes on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798074
[13:35] <didrocks> oSoMoN: pfffffffffffff :p
[13:35] <seb128> that's assigned now
[13:35] <marcustomlinson> I've got that yeah
[13:36] <seb128> thx marcustomlinson
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1829566
[13:36] <ubot5> bug 1829566 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager 1.10.14-0ubuntu2 ignores systemd-resolved configured dns" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829566
[13:36] <seb128> that's a SRU regression
[13:36] <seb128> kenvandine, Till said he's not around for the meeting but I guess it's for him? can you make sure he deals with it top priority since it's a LTS SRU regression?
[13:36] <seb128> (we might want to ask SRU team to block the phasing? anyway, out of meeting topic)
[13:37] <kenvandine> yes
[13:37] <seb128> thx
[13:37] <seb128> that's all for bionic
[13:37] <seb128> #topic rls-cc-bugs
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[13:37] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:37] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:37] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:38] <seb128> same gnome-shell one
[13:38] <didrocks> (time to redo the same show for the "No caps…" and I will be right this time!)
[13:38] <seb128> :)
[13:38] <seb128> and the udisks one is invalid, other tasks were closed but cosmic didn't work, probably lp timeout ... done for good now
[13:39] <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
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[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <seb128> still no desktop
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <seb128> unassigned ones are either fix commited or in progress
[13:39] <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
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[13:40] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:40] <seb128> bug #1829699
[13:40] <ubot5> bug 1829699 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Switches are gone from the VPN menu" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829699
[13:40] <seb128> jibel reported/tagged this one
[13:41] <seb128> I didn't upgrade to eoan yet but I want to test that on my inspiron today
[13:41] <seb128> if it's confirmed I vote +1 otherwise -1
[13:41] <seb128> jibel didn't provide the journal log so it doesn't help to know what's going on
[13:41] <seb128> jibel, you should know about including that by default with reports :)
[13:41] <seb128> (unsure why apport doesn't do it for gnome-shell reports)
[13:42] <seb128> others? anyone on eoan yet? did you see the issue?
[13:42] <didrocks> I heard the issue is only when you have multiple vpns
[13:42] <seb128> k, then it's -1 for me
[13:42] <seb128> we should still fix it
[13:42] <didrocks> (but can't confirm here, only one vpn, and didn't upgrade yet, but will do next week)
[13:42] <seb128> but it's cosmectic and edge case
[13:43] <seb128> k, let's skip, I will deal with it according to what the testing points out
[13:43] <seb128> might be worth testing also with disco-proposed's gnome-shell
[13:43] <seb128> in case that's a regression in that update
[13:43] <seb128> didrocks, thx :)
[13:44] <seb128> other one is bug #1162475
[13:44] <ubot5> bug 1162475 in systemd (Ubuntu Xenial) "[hostnamed] Changing hostname doesn't update /etc/hosts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162475
[13:44] <seb128> I will deal with it, but I think it's rather a systemd issue (cyphermo_x seemed to agree when I mentioned it to him)
[13:44] <seb128> so probably invalid for us
[13:45] <seb128> g-c-c just calls to hostnamed I think (need to check though)
[13:45] <seb128>  
[13:45] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:45] <seb128> all assigned!
[13:46] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[13:46] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:46] <seb128> Laney, anything you would like to point out there?
[13:46] <seb128> (guess not)
[13:46] <seb128> well enigmail ... oSoMoN are you on that one?
[13:46] <oSoMoN> yes
[13:46] <seb128> cool
[13:46] <oSoMoN> looking at that one
[13:47] <Laney> I made cards
[13:47] <seb128> thx
[13:48] <seb128> #topic AOB
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[13:48] <seb128> anything else?
[13:49] <didrocks> nothing
[13:49] <marcustomlinson> nothing from me
[13:49] <seb128> k, it's a wrap then, thx everyone!
[13:49] <seb128> #endmeeting
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[13:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 21 13:49:31 2019 UTC.
[13:49] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-05-21-13.30.moin.txt
[13:50] <marcustomlinson> thx 👍
[13:50] <oSoMoN> thx
[14:26] <Laney> that vpn thing is because yaru needs to be synced back up with shell
[14:36] <seb128> ah, thx Laney
[14:36] <seb128> I was about to update/configure some VPN to test
[14:36] <seb128> did they break theming in a point release? it impacts the SRU in disco-proposed then?N
[14:39] <Laney> I marked it as v-failed until there is a fixed yaru uploaded
[14:42] <seb128> thx!
[14:42] <seb128> Trevinho, ^
[14:42] <Laney> he'll have bug mail
[14:43] <seb128> you have faith in italian emails servers :p
[14:50] <Odd_Bloke> Hey folks!  I'm currently running on an SSD running in my laptop.  I'm in the process of setting up a desktop, and to save me from having to buy an extra drive, I'd like to just install the SSD in my desktop.  Can anyone foresee any issues I might run in to by so doing?
[14:51] <Odd_Bloke> One question I have: the new desktop will have only Nvidia graphics, whereas my laptop uses the integrated Intel graphics.  Should I install the Nvidia drivers before I move the drive, or will that not have any effect if I'm not already on a platform with an Nvidia card?
[14:51] <Odd_Bloke> (And if I don't install the Nvidia drivers, I assume there's enough support in the kernel to at least get me to an unaccelerated desktop?)
[14:53] <seb128> Odd_Bloke, hey, moving the SSD should just work, you can probably install the drivers after moving
[14:53] <seb128> it should boot using nouveau until you do
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[14:56] <Odd_Bloke> OK, great!
[14:56] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks Seb!
[14:58] <seb128> np!
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[15:10] <Trevinho> seb128: hey... As per that bug I knew was yaru... But sorry I didn't make in getting me up at 8 for the meeting today as last night I wanted to finish the 3.28.4 packaging...
[15:37] <seb128> Trevinho, no worry
[16:06] <Trevinho> Laney: on those 3.28.4 SRU overrides what you think?
[16:06] <Laney> dunno what you mean
[16:06] <Trevinho> can we try to get those in queue instead?
[16:06] <Trevinho> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/367673 and shell friend
[16:07] <Laney> yeah don't see why not
[16:10] <didrocks> sudo sed -i s/disco/eoan/g /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:10] <didrocks> scary ;)
[16:11] <Trevinho> didrocks: yeah, unless I won't do it in production for some weeks still :P
[16:11] <didrocks> Trevinho: too late, pressed F5 ;)
[16:12] <didrocks> + enter
[16:12]  * didrocks doesn't look back
[16:12] <Trevinho> have a safe trip!
[16:12] <didrocks> heh
[16:12] <didrocks> I just do this for celebrating more than 60 tests on zfs ;)
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[16:31] <Trevinho> Laney: I should ping more it seems, I trusted your full email scanning too much :P, but yeah now that you merged to salsa, i can prepare 3.32.2
[16:32] <Laney> Trevinho: say what?
[16:33]  * Laney thought we discussed waiting for a release
[16:33] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, sure...
[16:33] <Laney> :P
[16:33] <Trevinho> but from the mail you say "I just saw that :P", so I thought you didn't see the MR
[16:33] <Laney> ah
[16:35] <Laney> don't bother preparing it, I can do that quickly while I'm in the branch already
[16:53] <Trevinho> Laney: ok
[16:53] <Laney> done!
[16:53] <Trevinho> lovely
[16:54] <Laney> should we replace disco with .2?
[16:54] <Trevinho> great I tabbed back to IRC or we were doing the same xD
[16:54] <Laney> if we have to wait at least 10 days yaru anyway ...
[16:54] <Trevinho> Mh, if we can automatically-verify everything...
[16:54] <Trevinho> that's ok
[16:54] <Laney> for *
[16:57] <Laney> have a think about it, not going to do that now anyway
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[17:20] <Laney> bionic done
[17:20] <Laney> now, goodnight!
[18:34] <oSoMoN> good night