[00:21] <sere_> so is the pidgin facebook plugin not supported anyone
[00:21] <sere_> anymore?
[00:29] <mcm_> why is the swap space on a default ubuntu installation so small? less then 1GB ?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> mcm_: pre-existing swap partition ? as now on a fresh install the default is a swap file.
[01:02] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, the time on the top of the desktop is in 24 hours format and I was wondering how I can change this to a 12 hour format?
[01:05] <[itchyjunk]> Never mind, found it.
[01:08] <kaung> hi
[01:24] <ArmOrAttAk> hello
[01:25] <ArmOrAttAk> control+alt+function keys no longer work to get out of x on my new ubuntu install. anybody know why?
[01:30] <arooni> so this command works fine on mac but i get no audio output on ubuntu:     mplayer -noconsolecontrols -nolirc -really-quiet -volume 8 ~/bin/sounds/app-26.mp3 > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[01:31] <ArmOrAttAk> tell it what sound driver to use? check alsamixer?
[01:31] <leftyfb> arooni: remove the redirection and backgrounding at the end so you can see any possible error messages
[01:32] <ArmOrAttAk> why are you redirecting to dev/null? your sound is going to dev/null
[01:33] <arooni> was trying to avoid the console text output
[01:33] <leftyfb> ArmOrAttAk: that is not true
[01:34] <ArmOrAttAk> isn't it? ok fine i may be wrong. that's what that command looks like to me
[01:34] <arooni> it says its playing; yet AO: [pulse] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) ; i dont seem to hear it
[01:34] <leftyfb> arooni: why are you choosing those parameters?
[01:35] <arooni> leftyfb: https://gist.github.com/26eb1cb850c730a311b8e2255e178c21 ;  cuz audio was blaringly loud
[01:35] <arooni> was trying to reduce volume
[01:35] <leftyfb> arooni: reboot
[01:35] <arooni> ok dokes
[01:42] <leftyfb> arooni: I looked read the man page for mplayer. That volume is setting it to 8%. That's why you hear no sound
[01:43] <arooni> leftyfb: lol that would explain it!  however i tried on a different mp3 file and got no audio output (with no args)
[01:43] <arooni> i have yet to restart
[01:43] <arooni> i need to do that; just in the middle of something
[01:43] <leftyfb> arooni: because you didn't turn the volume back up
[01:43] <netameta> | means pipe what does || means ?
[01:43] <leftyfb> arooni: you probably don't need to reboot
[01:43] <leftyfb> netameta: it means "OR"
[01:44] <arooni> leftyfb: so the volume setting is persistent?
[01:44] <leftyfb> arooni: yes
[01:44] <arooni> right you rae
[01:44] <arooni> are!
[01:44] <netameta> so | and || is completely unrelated
[01:44] <arooni> thanks !
[01:44] <netameta> un like > and >>
[01:44] <leftyfb> netameta: correct
[01:45] <leftyfb> netameta: https://www.networkworld.com/article/3205148/unix-s-mysterious-andand-and.html
[01:45] <netameta> thanks
[01:52] <leftyfb> arooni: Looks like I've been helping you for over 10 years now :)
[02:13] <leonardus> can someone here please upload the default /etc/sudoers?
[02:13] <leonardus> thank you
[02:16] <leftyfb> leonardus: what version of ubuntu?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> leonardus: 18.04 : https://termbin.com/4xlf
[02:17] <leonardus> Bashing-om: fantastic thanks
[02:17] <mindofmateo> Hello.  My laptop wont automatically set the correct time zone in my i3status bar.  I have ntp, gnome-clocks both installed.  In settings, location detection is enabled, and automatic date/time and timezone are enabled.  What else do I need?
[02:17] <mindofmateo> Ubuntu 18.04
[02:18] <mindofmateo> The thing is, when I do `timedatectl` it shows local time as correct, but the clock doesn't actually show that correct time.
[02:18] <mindofmateo> it says `RTC in local TZ: no` but IDK why
[02:20] <arooni> leftyfb: woah you have scroll back from that long ago?  i didnt even realize i was a linux user for that long.  your nick sounds familiar and i definitely remember you solving many an ubuntu conundrum.  i used to run windows prior to ubuntu so thanks for doing a good deed
[02:21] <leftyfb> arooni: 2009/03/31/#ubuntu.log:Mar 31 00:28:47 <foob>   help!  i have ubuntu ibex on my thinkpad t61.  when i restarted, the networkmanager applet is not visible and thus i don't know how i can connect to a wireless network.  any ideas?
[02:21] <leftyfb> arooni: that was from EFnet
[02:21] <arooni> that sounds like me.  i love my lenovos
[02:22] <mindofmateo> NVM, I understand the RTC part now.\
[02:41] <pablo_> hi iǘe instqalled mysql on ubuntu 18.04  but i can login accesing from a terminal
[02:42] <pablo_> normally in other installations synaptic ask me for a password  but todai it didn ask me for one
[02:42] <wholesum> Baisc Q on LXD/LXC: Is there such a thing as running apt to update the guest OS or are they automatically updated when I update the host (100% ubuntu 18 host & guest)
[02:42] <pablo_> how can i do to use mysql
[02:43] <wholesum> Basic Q on LXD/LXC: Is there such a thing as running apt to update the guest OSes OR are they automatically updated when I update the host? (host & all guests running Bionic)
[02:45] <leftyfb> !repeat | wholesum
[02:45] <leftyfb> wholesum: they are separate OS's sharing the same kernel. You'll need to update packages separately
[02:45] <wholesum> ubottu: I wasn't repeating, I was making it more clear and correcting spelling. but i think you are a bot
[02:46] <wholesum> leftyfb: thanks. and would you recommend containers for USB device passthrough?
[02:46] <leftyfb> wholesum: I've never done it
[02:46] <wholesum> leftyfb: thx
[02:47] <leftyfb> pablo_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04#step-3-%E2%80%94-(optional)-adjusting-user-authentication-and-privileges
[02:54] <Optimus_Prime> hello
[02:58] <mallu> Ubuntu 18.04 I am not getting shell after login via ssh. It is getting stuck after Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-50-generic x86_64)   * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com  * Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com  * Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage
[03:00] <mallu> nothing I can see in any of the logs
[03:01] <mallu> nothing in auth.log or audit.log file
[03:02] <mallu> any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:04] <mouses> mallu: did you perhaps set a custom motd entry?
[03:04] <mouses> Mead: if the motd or anything else called on shell login relies on a external server that is timed out, you're going to have a bad time
[03:05] <mallu> mouses: I have custom motd
[03:05] <mouses> mallu: likely your issue - disable it for now and test with it disabled
[03:05] <mallu> mouses: I can see that motd then get the password prompt
[03:05] <mouses> motd comes after login/password
[03:06] <mouses> not before
[03:06] <mouses> a good test would be disabling whatever changes you made to motd
[03:06] <mouses> and testing with them all disabled
[03:07] <mallu> mouses: Disabled Banner /etc/issue.net restarted SSHD . Still same issue
[03:08] <mouses> mallu: have you made changes in /etc/update-motd.d ?
[03:08] <mallu> no I havent
[03:09] <mouses> mallu: confirm what files in /etc/update-motd.d are set +x ?
[03:10] <mouses> mallu: ls -l /etc/update-motd.d/ | pastebinit
[03:11] <mouses> and paste the resulting URL
[03:14] <mallu> mouses: https://pasteboard.co/IfFgbDk.png
[03:17] <mallu> mouses: I'm connected to server via web console so can't copy thus screenshot
[03:20] <talexb> Audacity has stopped working -- I'm getting "cannot create directory "/snap/audacity/288": permission denied" in /var/log/syslog.
[03:20] <talexb> This app worked a week ago .. I did an update today that may have broken things. How do I solve this?
[03:21] <talexb> (Yes, I tried creating the directory and making it 777 .. I still get the same error.)
[03:22] <mouses> mallu: got anywhere else to host that?  my VPN eats that URL as suspicious
[03:23] <mouses> or give me a second to check the pihole :)
[03:24] <mouses> there we go, whitelisted said URL :)
[03:24] <mouses> mallu: so every single motd option is enabled
[03:25] <mallu> ok..
[03:25] <mouses> mallu: for now, let's try: sudo chmod -x /etc/update-motd.d/*
[03:25] <mouses> after that, try a ssh login again
[03:25] <mouses> if it still fails, do a sudo chmod +x /etc/update-motd.d/* to restore what we just changed
[03:27] <mallu> mouses: do I need to restart sshd ?
[03:27] <mouses> mallu: nope
[03:27] <mallu> same erro after sudo chmod -x /etc/update-motd.d/*
[03:27] <mouses> just making sure the changes you have made to default motd are not the issue
[03:27] <mouses> okay
[03:28] <mouses> so now we are getting somewhere
[03:28] <mouses> go ahead and do the +x if you like to set it back to how you had it
[03:28] <mouses> mallu: if you want, I can try to ssh in and see if I have similar issues
[03:28] <mouses> that would help remove your local client as a potential issue
[03:29] <mallu> same error after +x
[03:29] <mouses> right, +x was just setting it back to how you had it
[03:29] <mouses> as we needed to eliminate motd as the issue
[03:29] <mallu> mouses: server has private IP
[03:30] <mouses> if you want me to test remote; free free to adduser mouses and send me a login to try and delete me after trying
[03:30] <mouses> what do you mean 'server has private IP'
[03:30] <mouses> what SSH client are you using to try to SSH in?
[03:30] <mallu> not accessible from outside our network
[03:30] <mouses> ah
[03:31] <mallu> I'm connected to datacenter via VPN
[03:31] <mouses> doubt it's a VPN issue - as you get a prompt
[03:32] <mouses> maybe try it naked (open up your ssh port)
[03:32] <mouses> really hard to say much, could be a million things
[03:32] <mouses> what SSH client are you using from what OS?
[03:32] <mallu> it is not VPN issue. I am getting login prompt
[03:32] <mallu> here is what I see https://pasteboard.co/IfFnlIe.png
[03:33] <mouses> ya, that's what I said - doubt it's a VPN issue
[03:33] <mouses> does the user name you are logging in as have a valid shell/home set?
[03:34] <mallu> yes
[03:34] <mallu> It was working until last night
[03:34] <mallu> mouses: ^^
[03:34] <mouses> what have you changed in the last 24 hours
[03:35] <mallu> setting up new server so I made quiet a bit changes last night
[03:35] <mouses> did you make a backup?
[03:36] <mouses> as you messed something up for sure
[03:36] <mallu> I did take a snapshot. I restored it to that snapshot but still getting the same error
[03:36] <mouses> weird
[03:37] <mouses> I wish I could help more, I'd be happy to test it but that would involve you exposing the port to outside of the VPN
[03:37] <tomreyn> did you touch /etc/default/motd-news ?
[03:37] <mouses> still pretty sure you goofed something in motf
[03:38] <mouses> motd*
[03:38] <tomreyn> there could also be something wrong in the remote users' dot files
[03:39] <mouses> oh, that's also possible!
[03:39] <mallu> mouses: no I didn't touch /etc/default/motd-news
[03:39] <AppXprt> Put Mac n Cheese in my USB Port
[03:39] <mouses> mallu: let's test something
[03:39] <mouses> mallu: sudo adduser <pick.a.random.name.and.put.it.here>
[03:40] <mouses> without the <> of course
[03:40] <mouses> set a password
[03:40] <mouses> and try to login as that user, leave everything as default
[03:40] <mallu> ok.. let me try that
[03:40] <mouses> mallu: that will help us eliminate user dotfiles as a potential issue :)
[03:41] <mallu> ok
[03:46] <mouses> mallu: any luck?  is new user account working?
[03:48] <mallu> mouses: keep getting Permission denied, please try again.
[03:49] <mallu> let me check sshd_config
[03:49] <mouses> did you do a bunch of editing to sshd_config or something?
[03:50] <mouses> also where are you getting 'permision denied, please try again;
[03:50] <mouses> you can just sudo apt install pastebin
[03:50] <mouses> and pipe output of anything | pastebinit
[03:50] <mouses> errr, sudo apt install pastebinit
[03:50] <mouses> would be more useful than screengrabs
[03:50] <mallu> getting that error when entering the password
[03:51] <mouses> so wrong password
[03:51] <mouses> sudo su - <whatever.user.name.we.created>
[03:51] <mouses> and then as that user, passwd
[03:51] <mouses> and set a password and this time note it/remember it
[03:55] <mallu> mouses: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rgtY3C64vj/
[03:56] <mouses> so you set up some custom sssh filtering re: 'allowed users'
[03:56] <mouses> and that user is not a member of said group
[03:57] <mouses> looks like we have narrowed the problem down at least - something you did to the sshd configuration is very unhappy
[03:59] <mouses> mallu: at this point my best advice is to restore sshd to default configuration, and when changing it's config - one thing at a time, save, test, then change one more thing, etc.
[03:59] <mallu> mouses: I removed allowedusers in sshd_config. Now it I'm able to ssh but getting the same error.. no shell
[04:00] <mouses> mallu: best bet I have at this point is to restore sshd to default configuration
[04:00] <mouses> what SSH client are you using to connect?
[04:00] <mallu> using macOS
[04:01] <mouses> that's an OS, not a client
[04:01] <mallu> mouses: whatever the console client in macos
[04:02] <mouses> yeah - see no reason why you are having this issue.  My next step would be to restore sshd settings to default
[04:02] <mouses> and see if the issue still persists
[04:02] <mouses> random question: were you following some random blog/guide to set things up and copy/pasting commands?
[04:03] <mallu> mouses: following CIS hardening doc
[04:03] <mouses> something you did there broke things
[04:03] <mallu> the good thing is the server is really hardened :)
[04:03] <mouses> yeah, to the point where you can't even login
[04:03] <mouses> :P
[04:04] <mouses> personally; i'd just nuke the OS from orbit and start over and this time take it a lot more slow and don't just follow random online guides
[04:05] <mallu> yeah, thats what I am going to do
[04:05] <mallu> thank you mouses
[04:05] <mouses> wish I could be of more help - but this could be so many things :(
[04:05] <mallu> really appreciated your help
[04:05] <mallu> I made so many changes.. 600 pages worth changes
[04:05] <mouses> yeah :(
[04:06] <mouses> is this just a vanity server?
[04:06] <mouses> or something super mission critical?
[04:06] <mallu> the client wants CIS level 2
[04:06] <mouses> personally all I do on my ubuntu servers to harden them is - disable password login (ssh keys only), disable root login via remote (make users sudo up), fail2ban installed
[04:07] <mouses> ahhhhh
[04:07] <mouses> good luck, that's outside of my scope of knowledge :(
[04:07] <mallu> thanks again mouses
[04:07] <mouses> no problem, best of luck on the reinstall!
[04:49] <Guest96793> so i just installed ubuntu and it wont let me highlight files or copy paste files into folders
[05:17] <mez> t
[05:17] <mez> Hello
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> welcome mez
[05:37] <leonardus> is it possible to have both libav and ffmpeg installed at the same time on ubuntu?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje_> leonardus: if you use packages from the ubuntu repos, and apt doesnt complain, i dont see why not
[05:41] <lotuspsychje_> leonardus: if you share what you are going to do to the channel, volunteers can think along with you?
[05:43] <leonardus> lotuspsychje_: i was just asking because in gentoo it's impossible and they're saying it's because "upstream" wanted it that way. i don't understand this. i think i'm going to switch back to ubuntu this is ridiculous.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje_> leonardus: for gentoo questions we cant help you here
[05:46] <SleepyTurtle> hi, can someone help me set up a CANbus device?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | SleepyTurtle
[05:48] <SleepyTurtle> I can see the messages through a demo tool, but can't seem to find the devices on the canbus
[05:49] <SleepyTurtle> lotuspsychje: I can't seem able to bring up the CAN NIC
[05:55] <SleepyTurtle> lotuspsychje: for example, following the steps found here: https://elinux.org/Bringing_CAN_interface_up
[05:57] <SleepyTurtle> I can't do  "sudo ip link set can0 type can bitrate 125000", I get "Cannot find device "can0""
[06:17] <lvrp16> anyone know how to disable automount in 18.04 desktop?
[06:19] <jaiikky> whois ubuntu.com
[06:20] <hiatus> how do I remove the gnome menu?
[06:21] <hiatus> you know, the bottom 9 dot thing
[06:24] <guiverc> lvrp16, all my mounts are found in /etc/fstab; so if I no longer wanted to mount automatically; I'd edit there (adding ,noauto, or whatever was approriate for that fs)
[06:25] <lvrp16> guiverc: thanks it was gnome, thought it was udev doing the automount
[06:27] <guiverc> lvrp16, sorry I rarely use gnome, and aren't familiar with non /etc/fstab mounts; someone else maybe able to help if you're patient
[06:28] <lvrp16> guiverc: it was gnome automount media settings. they really need to just add a UI toggle to disable that garbage
[06:30] <guiverc> lvrp16, i'd look in your /etc/fstab, and if you see something there, add a '#' to start of line (turning it into a comment; ~disable)
[06:30] <plongshot> I need some help to form a ufw command. I would like to do someting like :  $ sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24 to any app OpenSSH   except I want to midify it to also only accept port 22 and ssh protocol only (not outside of that). I'm trying to bind the ssh connection to a single ip address as well as deny each and every other ip addres besides that one. And that scanning shows the port closed because of it. Thanks if anyone can
[06:30] <plongshot> help.
[06:31] <plongshot> Guess:   would it be... sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24 to port 22/ssh app OpenSSH  ?
[06:40] <ap4lmtree> hi
[06:40] <ap4lmtree> what is the current and next release name if you put it in the sources.list file?
[06:43] <blackflow> ap4lmtree: it's always the first component of the name. "disco" for current. "eoan" for the next.
[06:44] <blackflow> but eh, the fact that you have to ask this tells me you shouldn't be touching sources.list at all :)
[06:51] <gambl0re> how do i boot into grub
[06:55] <blackflow> gambl0re: press and hold left SHIFT key when the computer goes through bios POST and until you get to the menu
[06:56] <gambl0re> ok if i change the kernel in grub its only temporary as far as i know. i have to change the grub file to make the change permanent?
[06:58] <blackflow> gambl0re: yes. /etc/default/grub and then run `update-grub` to actually configure it, from this config file.
[06:58] <blackflow> anything you do in the menu is effective for that boot session only.
[07:33] <SleepyTurtle> hi
[07:33] <SleepyTurtle> how can I check if CANbus is enabled on my computer?
[07:35] <ap4lmtree> is there a better than pulseaudio
[07:35] <blackflow> ap4lmtree: "better" in what way?
[07:35] <ap4lmtree> less troubleshooting and bugs
[07:36] <blackflow> ap4lmtree: what bugs are you perceiving?
[07:37] <ap4lmtree> im trying to help troubleshoot someone's issues withnot being able to connect to pulseaudio for one
[07:40] <blackflow> ap4lmtree: you'll have to give more detail about the issues. "better" is relative term. PulseAudio is no longer as buggy as it used to be many, many years ago, and only the myth remains. The only alternative is you go ALSA directly, which is not supported in Ubuntu (you'd have to break a lot oof things and recompile a lot of packages).
[07:40] <blackflow> but know that ALSA is not bug-free at all, that's the reason Pulse was invented to begin with.
[07:51] <Tankburn> Hello. Would installing the nVidia 490 proprietary drivers have anything to do with losing my Display out to HDMI sound device in audio settings? (I know it has worked previously but just not sure when I lost it)
[07:52] <Tankburn> Hey lotuspsychje
[07:53] <blackflow> Tankburn: it's possible. You can always revert to the earlier driver and test that theory.
[07:56] <SleepyTurtle> hi,, how can I access the kernel configuration?
[07:58] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: via config-<kernel-version> files in /boot.  Eg.  `cat /boot/config-$(uname -r)`
[07:58] <SleepyTurtle> thanks blackflow
[08:00] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: CANbus is enabled right? https://pastebin.com/urTWSxT8
[08:02] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: yup: https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/CAN.html
[08:02] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: but that doesn't answer your initial question, on how to know if it's "enabled"
[08:03] <blackflow> this only means the kernel is built with the supporting modules.
[08:03] <SleepyTurtle> how can I check then?
[08:03] <blackflow> or maybe I misunderstood your meaning of "enabled". You can also check dmesg to see if the module is loaded which'd mean it detected the bus
[08:04] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow:
[08:04] <SleepyTurtle> [ 2275.688077] CAN device driver interface
[08:04] <SleepyTurtle> [ 2279.533492] sja1000 CAN netdevice driver
[08:04] <SleepyTurtle> this is dmesg
[08:04] <SleepyTurtle> I'm having trouble setting up CAN
[08:05] <SleepyTurtle> I get the "Cannot find device "can0"" message
[08:05] <exo-squad> hello, im trying to run 18.04 on an atomic pi and i cant get the audio working and im just lost right now
[08:05] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: looks like the sja1000 device is detected and module is loaded. also check that the module appears in the output of `lsmod`
[08:06] <SleepyTurtle> sja1000                20480  1 peak_pci
[08:06] <SleepyTurtle> can_dev                28672  3 sja1000,esd_usb2,peak_usb
[08:06] <SleepyTurtle> this is the output of lsmod | grep  sja1000
[08:06] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: I don't know much about that bus. Is it possible the device wouldn't be "canX"? but something else?
[08:07] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: what's the output of `lspci -k`  and `lsusb`  please use a !pastebin
[08:07] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: I don't know, how can I check the name?
[08:08] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: lspci -k: https://pastebin.com/gFX4UPDP
[08:08] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: lsusb: https://pastebin.com/7MnELTFj
[08:10] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: what's that IMC Networks USB device? That a CANbus device?
[08:11] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: How can I check?
[08:11] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: no idea, I'm not familiar with those devices. You can also check if a networking device appeared with `ip link`
[08:11] <SleepyTurtle> this is my canbus device blackflow https://www.advantech.com/products/bc858a7f-a52b-441b-a59c-f511289f98bc/mos-2230-z1201e/mod_47f7530c-9ebf-48a0-85fc-30e9886457e1
[08:12] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: ip link: https://pastebin.com/Bnfb3sJq
[08:12] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: also, it's not unusual that a driver/module is loaded but for some reason it can't operate the hardware. it'd be great to check the dmesg _after_ the lines you posted. `dmesg | grep -A 30 "CAN device"`  for example
[08:13] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: dmesg | grep -A 30 "CAN device": https://pastebin.com/CVaAu1z9
[08:15] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: sorry, but I can't figure this out from the info you gave. One thing btw. The kernel appears to think it's a network device? But the product page you posted doesn't suggest so.
[08:15] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: it's internally connected via usb but it's a canbus device
[08:16] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: is the network device something you plug into that?
[08:16] <blackflow> dmesg shows the driver loaded ~4 seconds after the bus driver
[08:16] <SleepyTurtle> I don't think so, what I plug into that is a canbus wire
[08:17] <blackflow> SleepyTurtle: sorry, I don't know how to help you more then.
[08:17] <SleepyTurtle> that goes to the bus where 2 other devices are also connected
[08:17] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow: no worries, thanks a lot for your time
[08:17] <SleepyTurtle> blackflow:  I really appreciate it
[08:17] <blackflow> you're welcome.
[08:18] <SleepyTurtle> I think I'm going to go get dinner and I'll send an email to the hardware supplier later
[08:57] <b1ack0p> hi
[08:57] <speiros> Hey
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: arm device?
[09:06] <exo-squad> its a intel atom device
[09:07] <exo-squad> i just wiped the crappy os it had preinstalled and put lubuntu 19.04 on it and its perfect now
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: got sound working now?
[09:07] <exo-squad> yeap
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: what was wrong?
[09:07] <exo-squad> pulse audio server kept disconnecting, and then there was no way to make it output over hdmi
[09:08] <exo-squad> but a nice fresh install of a newer version fixed it
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: wich ubuntu version had the audio issue?
[09:09] <exo-squad> 18.04
[09:09] <exo-squad> bionic
[09:09] <NginUS> exo-squad: 'pulseaudio -k'
[09:09] <exo-squad> do you know what an atomic pi is?
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: did you update your 18.04.2?
[09:10] <exo-squad> lotuspsychje, i just wiped it, and installed 19.04
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: i mean you had sound issues on 18.04, so was your system fully up to date there?
[09:11] <exo-squad> i did the apt-get update and upgrade stuff
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> kk
[09:11] <exo-squad> but i think it was kind of custom from the maker of it
[09:12] <exo-squad> 19.04 lubuntu is crazy faster. no weird video issues, no audio problems
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: maybe kernel 5+ fixes alot of things on your device
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: next time you could consider making a new !bug or affect to an existing
[09:13] <exo-squad> lotuspsychje, im not very good with linux... jim using to the sbc computers...
[09:13] <exo-squad> like the rasperry pi and stuff like that.
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> exo-squad: oh well its solved now..
[09:14] <exo-squad> look into an atomic pi, its cool :)
[09:14] <speiros> Sounds like something I could have for dinner...microwaved pie
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[09:14] <speiros> Speaking of such...I'm off for dinner.
[09:41] <jaiikky> i installed cinnamon in ubuntu, removed again, but lots of software didn't get remove. how to remove those bundle which came along with cinnamon?
[09:41] <banisterfiend> hi
[09:46] <inad922> hello
[09:46] <inad922> Could someone tell me which service is responsible for bluetooth services on ubuntu?
[09:47] <rory> since switching from the Ubuntu 16.04 AMI to the Ubuntu 18.04 AMI on AWS (both Canonical-provided) I have some weird issues. For example, "updatedb command not found" and also there is no /var/log/syslog file
[09:47] <rory> I think it's called bluez inad922
[09:49] <inad922> Nah, bluez is the name of the package. I would like to use bluetoothctl from it. Seems like some other systemd service is messing around and I have a hard time adding my keyboard with it. Also I'm not using the default desktop environment.
[09:50] <blackflow> inad922: did you grep the output of systemctl list-units for anything bluetooth related? I can't offer a name myself, I don't bluetooth.
[09:51] <jeremy31> inad922: bluetoothctl should work without installing any packages at least on 18.04
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> inad922: also provide us details of your ubuntu install? did you use minimal or so?
[09:52] <inad922> lotuspsychje, I'm on 18.04
[09:53] <inad922> blackflow, Yep, I have these services:
[09:53] <inad922> sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:14.0-usb1-1\x2d9-1\x2d9:1.0-bluetooth-hci0-hci0:256.device                                                                   loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-9/1-9:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:256
[09:53] <inad922> sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:14.0-usb1-1\x2d9-1\x2d9:1.0-bluetooth-hci0.device                                                                            loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-9/1-9:1.0/bluetooth/hci0
[09:53] <inad922> sys-subsystem-bluetooth-devices-hci0.device                                                                                                                 loaded active plugged   /sys/subsystem/bluetooth/devices/hci0
[09:53] <inad922> sys-subsystem-bluetooth-devices-hci0:256.device                                                                                                             loaded active plugged   /sys/subsystem/bluetooth/devices/hci0:256
[09:53] <inad922> bluetooth.service                                                                                                                                           loaded active running   Bluetooth service
[09:54] <blackflow> !pastebin | inad922
[10:19] <jjido> Hi. I could not install Firefox on Ubuntu on Windows. I get dpkg error related to remove omnidb-server. What does omnidb server have to do with Firefox ?
[10:20] <jjido> Is there an apt-get option for skipping removal of it
[10:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:31] <blackflow> !wsl | jjido
[11:00] <r15> i followed steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeALiveCD/DVD/BootableFlashFromHarddiskInstall and it's working fine
[11:00] <r15> however how do i add a custom image to the grub?
[11:00] <r15> in grub shell of custom media i can see all modules loaded.
[11:04] <r15> grub.cfg file https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:05] <achen_> Hey guys, im trying to install mdadm arrays raid 0, when trying to choose both of the disks i want to use it says, disks are busy Device or service is busy on both of them
[11:05] <r15> also tried copying /boot/grub/i386* to path however image is not loading.
[11:05] <achen_> I though maybe to run from "try ubuntu" from the USB and then it won't use the disks somehow, but it still the same error
[11:14] <piraye> hello everybody,
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu support piraye
[11:15] <piraye> I got this error when I run sudo apt update
[11:15] <piraye> E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if /usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/app-info -a -e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then appstreamcli refresh-cache > /dev/null; fi'
[11:15] <piraye> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[11:16] <piraye> I searched online but not any solution fix it
[11:16] <snap1> EVERYBODY, i am boycotting MPV due to the fact that people in #mpv are not very friendly
[11:17] <piraye> please can you point me how to fix this error?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> piraye: can you please use a pastebin with the output of: uname -a && lsb_release -a && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade?
[11:19] <DJ-ArcAngel> hello
[11:20] <DJ-ArcAngel> i have a problem with release upgrade from 14 to 16
[11:20] <DJ-ArcAngel> it hangs everytime at Unpacking grub-common_202
[11:20] <piraye> lotuspsychje, https://paste2.org/GIB9hdEc
[11:22] <felsokning> Quick question: There's a way to have apt-get prompt you with the notices that come with updates but I can't seem to find how to enable that. Any ideas? (Think the notes to updates in the update program and it's the same, just in terminal.)
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> piraye: try a sudo apt autoremove and you also have external ppa's added i see, its reccomended to use only packages from the official ubuntu repos
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> snap1: this is the ubuntu support channel, we usually take care of ubuntu related problems is your mpv problem related?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> felsokning: you want to get notified when updates come out, thats it?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> DJ-ArcAngel: is it possible to pastebin the errors you getting from your upgrade?
[11:26] <piraye> lotuspsychje, how to remove external ppa' and only use packages form the official ubuntu repos
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | piraye
[11:28] <DJ-ArcAngel> lotuspsychje: no =
[11:28] <DJ-ArcAngel> lotuspsychje: no =\ it happens on console
[11:28] <felsokning> louspsychje: no, when you download updates, they come with notes, I used to be able to see the notes before they installed in the terminal (like you can see the notes in the update program before you install the update) but I've since reinstalled and forgotten how to enable seeing the update notes before they install. :(
[11:29] <piraye> ubottu, how to know which packages deleted and can revert them back
[11:30] <piraye> lotuspsychje, help please
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> piraye: you are the admin of your system, you should recall wich ppa's/packages you added to your system, see your sources.list as help
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !sources | piraye
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> DJ-ArcAngel: 14.04 is now end of life, it would have been better if you upgrade before EOL
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | DJ-ArcAngel
[11:32] <DJ-ArcAngel> tell me about it
[11:33] <DJ-ArcAngel> but this company would want me cloned x10 with 8 arms each
[11:33] <DJ-ArcAngel> unfortunatly i am just one
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> DJ-ArcAngel: is this 14.04 servers?
[11:33] <DJ-ArcAngel> yes
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> DJ-ArcAngel: join #ubuntu-server please
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> felsokning: do you mean releasenotes of packages/updates or apt notices about wich packages can be updated?
[11:37] <piraye> lotuspsychje, I did understand how to solve the problem
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> piraye: great!
[11:37] <piraye> no I did not
[11:38] <piraye> need further help to solve it please
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> piraye: i think we had this conversation before, you install packages from internet instead of installing from apt
[11:38] <felsokning> luotuspsychje: Apologies, release notes. :)
[11:39] <piraye> lotuspsychje, no, I used apt
[11:39] <piraye> this first time happened to me
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> piraye: please clean your sources as reccomended first
[11:41] <piraye> yes I run this sudo apt autoremove
[11:41] <piraye> then what should I do
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> piraye: your original question said; you had an error on apt, do you still have it?
[11:43] <piraye> lotuspsychje, https://paste2.org/69sZs3jx , it solved I think
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> piraye: yes it did
[11:44] <piraye> lotuspsychje, thanks :)
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | piraye see also
[11:47] <ace_me> hi all. I am using Remmina to connect to a RDP but I am often disconnected... somewhere I did seen someone solved with -fast-path but not sure how / where to add that
[11:48] <ace_me> maybe someone had a similar issue ?
[11:59] <felsokning> I think Iäve found my answer: apt-listchanges
[12:00] <lehrer> rettet die wahle, esst mehr japaner!
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !ot | lehrer
[12:00] <felsokning> Yep, that was it. https://packages.debian.org/sid/apt-listchanges
[12:14] <piraye> hi,
[12:15] <piraye> now I got another problem with sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <tatertotz> oh no
[12:15] <piraye> https://paste2.org/UV8U1Mnk
[12:16] <jellycode> If I list OpenSSL as a dependency in my control file of my debian package, and users install via a "dpkg -i package.deb", will dpkg use their configured debian repositories to obtain OpenSSL by default?
[12:17] <piraye> please help, how to solve my apt-get update problem
[12:17] <jellycode> on RHEL, if I install an RPM with rpm -uvh, it won't solve dependencies using repositories.  We have to install with YUM for that.
[12:18] <leftyfb> piraye: remove every instance you find of that webupd8team repo
[12:18] <piraye> leftyfb, I couldnt remove them
[12:19] <leftyfb> piraye: why not?
[12:20] <piraye> E: Unable to locate package webupd8team-java.list
[12:20] <piraye> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'webupd8team-java.list'
[12:20] <piraye> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'webupd8team-java.list'
[12:20] <leftyfb> !paste | piraye
[12:20] <thsnr> jellycode: if they do dpkg -i package.deb, then deps will not be installed. however if they do apt install ./package.deb instead, then they will
[12:20] <piraye> ok
[12:21] <jellycode> thank you SO much thsnr
[12:21] <leftyfb> piraye: sudo grep -Rl webupd8team /etc/apt/sources* #  this will give you a list of files with that repo. Delete the ones with webupd8team in the name. If you have an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list, edit it and remove that line.
[12:22] <piraye> leftyfb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:22] <leftyfb> piraye: try again
[12:22] <leftyfb> piraye: that link doesn't show anything you posted
[12:22] <piraye> try what
[12:23] <leftyfb> piraye: please follow the instructions I gave you above
[12:24] <piraye> leftyfb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WVsyhG4sRb/
[12:24] <leftyfb> piraye: please follow the instructions I gave you above
[12:24] <piraye> ok
[12:26] <jellycode> Is there a way to force a debian installation , ignoring dependencies?
[12:26] <piraye> leftyfb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/whP3wWxtqZ/ here after I follow your instructions
[12:26] <EriC^^> jellycode: you mean a .deb file?
[12:27] <leftyfb> piraye: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team*
[12:27] <EriC^^> leftyfb: wouldnt that remove all?
[12:27] <EriC^^> does he want to keep 1 ppa of them?
[12:28] <leftyfb> EriC^^: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[12:28] <leftyfb> EriC^^: the PPA is discontinued
[12:28] <piraye> leftyfb, thanks, done!
[12:28] <EriC^^> ah i see
[12:44] <ipp> Hi there, can someone help me revive the dual boot (windows is gone) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d2dnR6Djxs/
[12:45] <achen_> Hey guys, im trying to install mdadm arrays raid 0, when trying to choose both of the disks i want to use it says, disks are busy Device or service is busy on both of them
[12:45] <achen_> I though maybe to run from "try ubuntu" from the USB and then it won't use the disks somehow, but it still the same error
[12:45] <tatertotz> lol
[12:45] <EriC^^> ipp: was windows installed the you installed ubuntu now?
[12:46] <ipp> Eric^^: windows was installed before i installed (k)ubuntu
[12:46] <EriC^^> ipp: you installed ubuntu in uefi mode, windows was installing in legacy mode so now ubuntu wont pick up windows
[12:47] <tatertotz> achen_ are you planning to have just your data on software raid or are you trying to made a soffware raid and then install a OS to that software raid?
[12:47] <tatertotz> achen_ if you cannot answer that question that is fair
[12:47] <EriC^^> ipp: you need to either reinstall ubuntu in legacy mode(beware not to choose the installer's reinstall feature it will wipe everything, so partition manually instead), or you need to convert ubuntu to use legacy, i can help with that if you want
[12:47] <tatertotz> achen_ and i'll leave you alone
[12:48] <EriC^^> ipp: what's on the nvme? its just a data drive?
[12:48] <ipp> Eric^^: is that what you gather from the pastebin?
[12:48] <tatertotz> achen_ silence speaks volumes..say no more
[12:49] <achen_> tatertotz : not even sure what they wanna do with it, but the OS is already installed on one of the disks, i've put them together to make them 4TB instead of 2 and 2 and then tried making it RAID and got this error
[12:49] <EriC^^> ipp: sorry i mean the toshiba 2.7tb
[12:49] <EriC^^> ipp: yeah that's what i gather
[12:49] <tatertotz> achen_ ok good...you already have linux installed
[12:49] <EriC^^> ipp: do you doubt what i say?
[12:49] <tatertotz> achen_ you had me worried for a secon
[12:49] <tatertotz> achen_ second
[12:50] <ipp> Eric^^: sda1 is just an empty data drive
[12:50] <pagnol> anyone know how to use a different window manager in ubuntu 18?
[12:50] <EriC^^> ipp: ok
[12:50] <pagnol> I want to use ratpoison, installed it with apt
[12:51] <tatertotz> achen_ are you chatting from the machine right now? or have access to it right now?
[12:51] <achen_> tatertotz : chatting from my laptop and yes the machine is right beside me
[12:52] <tatertotz> achen_ how did you prepare or partition your disk you plan on soft raiding with
[12:52] <stripe> hi all, setting up lxd on 18.04, cant access the containers from outside their lan. all the tutorials I have seen have been pre-systemd, anyone know of a resource that is current? cheers :)
[12:52] <tatertotz> achen_ you can explain or show me...which ever is easier...i prefer not to get carpletunnel syndrome lol
[12:52] <ipp> Eric^^: what did i do wrong, why is windows using legacy boot?
[12:53] <tatertotz> achen_ so use a pastebin if need be
[12:53] <EriC^^> ipp: it was already using legacy boot, the partition scheme is msdos not gpt, and windows cant use uefi + msdos scheme, so it was always using legacy
[12:53] <achen_> tatertotz : Well, when i first installed the partition it saw 2 disks but only 1 of them he showed the memory of, so what i did was installed the os on it, and then extened the partition to add the another disk so it'll have 4TB
[12:54] <achen_> tatertotz : how can i help you?
[12:54] <EriC^^> ipp: alternatively you could convert windows to use uefi
[12:55] <ipp> Eric^^: how would I do that, do I have to make a windows recovery disk or something like this?
[12:55] <EriC^^> ipp: btw on the 2.7tb you are missing space since you used a msdos partition table, so that can only use max 2tb partitions
[12:56] <EriC^^> you could make another 0.7tb partition or, you could convert to gpt and make a 2.7tb partition
[12:57] <EriC^^> ipp: well, first you'd need to convert the disk from msdos to gpt, since windows wont allow uefi unless gpt is used, then you'd need a windows installation cd and use the command line to convert
[12:58] <EriC^^> ipp: tbh i would backup the windows partition before trying to convert from msdos to gpt cause stuff could go wrong
[12:58] <tatertotz> achen_ in terminal> sudo apt install inxi sosreport
[12:58] <ipp> EriC^^: ok, will try this
[12:58] <tatertotz> achen_ on the computer in question..not your laptop of course
[12:59] <tatertotz> achen_ once completed
[12:59] <EriC^^> ipp: converting ubuntu to legacy is merely 1 command away
[12:59] <tatertotz> achen_ in terminal>   inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[12:59] <tatertotz> achen_ share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[13:00] <ipp> EriC^^: hmm. you mean i could do this first and then once windows is actually booting again convert that from there to uefi later?
[13:01] <tatertotz> achen_ i'm playing SMITE while talking with you so my responses may be delayed but i'm here
[13:01] <achen_> tatertotz : https://pastebin.com/vZJaRmen
[13:01] <achen_> tatertotz: wrote all in pastebin, also thanks alot for your help bro! :)
[13:02] <tatertotz> achen_ if you cannot try with "unused" devices..
[13:03] <tatertotz> achen_ you would need to present 2x disk that are NOT being used
[13:03] <tatertotz> achen_ literally NOT being used
[13:04] <EriC^^> ipp: i mean you could, i was suggesting to just convert ubuntu to use legacy and call it a day
[13:04] <EriC^^> ipp: if you want to boot windows right now you could, just set the bios to use legacy instead of uefi and it should boot, unless the mbr was screwed up somehow
[13:04] <achen_> tatertotz : how can i do that :3 from my current state
[13:05] <achen_> tatertotz : because the only thing installed on this machine is is just ssh and the ubuntu and the mdadm
[13:05] <ipp> Eric^^: I just managed to convert sda to gbr and use the full space :)
[13:05] <EriC^^> ipp: great
[13:06] <EriC^^> ipp: did you format again the partition?
[13:06] <tatertotz> achen_ you didn't provide the additional level of detail i instructed you to...so you'll have to figure that out by yourself
[13:06] <tatertotz> achen_ i cannot see your setup since you did not follow instrucitons
[13:06] <EriC^^> ipp: with sda1 mounted, df -h shows the full tb's?
[13:06] <ipp> EriC^^: how would i go about getting windows back / going legacy boot in the ubuntu install?
[13:06] <tatertotz> achen_ and that's fair..but now you just have to rely on the mass in between your ears
[13:06] <achen_> tatertotz : i'll do that right now
[13:07] <EriC^^> ipp: well, you need to let the bios boot in legacy mode and have the nvme selected as first in boot order, since it appears sda has an active mbr
[13:07] <ipp> EriC^^: df -h dev/sda1       2,8T   31G  2,7T   2% /media/ipp/4C60DDD060DDC13E
[13:08] <EriC^^> ipp: was windows booting before on the nvme or you transfered it to there from somewhere else?
[13:08] <ipp> EriC^^: yes, win was booting from nvme
[13:09] <EriC^^> ipp: ok, installing ubuntu in uefi mode shouldnt have touched the mbr, so just put csm legacy mode in the bios, then put the nvme first in the boot order
[13:10] <achen_> tatertotz : hey tater, the i learnt off something real cool off your instruction, thanks! thats what it got : https://www.screencast.com/t/HBJlDoPub
[13:12] <tatertotz> achen_ cool :)
[13:14] <achen_> tatertotz : any idea?
[13:18] <tatertotz> achen_ in terminal>   sudo mdadm --detail /dev/dm-0
[13:19] <tatertotz> achen_ in terminal>   sudo mdadm --detail -scan
[13:19] <achen_> tatertotz : mdadm : /dev/dem-0 doest not appear to be an md device
[13:19] <tatertotz> achen_ in terminal>   sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[13:19] <achen_> Ok done that
[13:20] <tatertotz> achen_ you do not have any unused to use
[13:21] <tatertotz> achen_ so you will go back to the drawing board with your people and find much for more disks or something
[13:21] <achen_>  tatertotz : can you think of a way we can pass this through
[13:21] <tatertotz> achen_find more $ fore more disk
[13:22] <ipp> EriC^^: could not find CSM in the bios settings. Here is a new pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95jC2n2Rcm/
[13:22] <tatertotz> achen_ the system is NOT lying to you...the disks are "in use" or "busy"
[13:22] <tatertotz> achen_ buy more disks
[13:23] <achen_> tatertotz : can we do some kind of a work around like, installing on one disk, and and then creating raid on the other unused and the used one, i think i saw some option of "ignore" of one disk is in use
[13:23] <achen_> And then it will register them both on the raid?
[13:23] <tatertotz> achen_ you only have 2x 2TB drives
[13:24] <tatertotz> achen_ if you use 1x for purpose "A" leaving a remainder of =1
[13:24] <tatertotz> achen_ why are you still thinking raid anything with 1 disk
[13:24] <tatertotz> achen_ smell what i'm putting down?
[13:25] <achen_> tatertotz: i think i didn't explain myself properly, or maybe im trying to do something which is impossible i'll try to rephrase
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> achen_: A question, do you really nead RAID 0? Can you not make use of LVM and use both drives as a single volume?
[13:25] <achen_> tatertotz: right now our problem is , its telling us " look the 2 disks are in use it cannot go throught a raid proccess"
[13:25] <Taggnostr> hello, I was trying to update from 18.10 to 19.04 using do-release-upgrade, but I got an error and now it won't let me continue with the installation nor abort the installation and revert back.  This is the error I'm getting, when it asked if I want to continue I tried both options and got the same result: http://dpaste.com/10WRZFT (I already asked on #kubuntu and they suggested me to try here)
[13:25] <tatertotz> achen_ if you're going down that road...remove raid from your brain...install the OS to 1x of the 2TB drives and use the other 2TB drive for "data"...done
[13:26] <achen_> tatertotz : what i think i read like an hour ago is that there's a command in the mdadm that if one disk is unused and the other is used, theres a "unlock/unmount"unwhatever"
[13:26] <achen_> that will accept the disk even if its in use
[13:26] <achen_> tatertotz: or im mixing things ?
[13:27] <achen_> pragmaticenigma : Well thats the requirement , as far as mee i dont mind at all thats what the server needs to have
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> achen_: Who is this requirement for?
[13:28] <achen_> pragmatcneigma : my company
[13:28] <tatertotz> achen_ nvme1 has your /boot
[13:28] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: do-release-upgrade is assuming that you are running cosmic (18.10), but notices that your apt sources all point to disco (19.04) already.
[13:28] <tatertotz> achen_ so it's in use
[13:28] <tatertotz> achen_ so you can forget about using nvme1
[13:28] <FrostFeline> Is there any way to tell what is keeping the monitor awake?
[13:29] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, yes, they are pointing to disco, do you think changing them back to cosmic will solve the issue?
[13:29] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: quit the dist-upgrader, run    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[13:29] <tatertotz> achen_ so what ever you are thinking remove nvme1 from your thoughts and ideas LOL
[13:29] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: and then   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> FrostFeline: There is not... try turning the mouse over and seeing if the screen will time out
[13:29] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: we need to examine whether the upgrade did already take place or not
[13:30] <tatertotz> achen_ also..did you try to run linux from USB?
[13:30] <tatertotz> achen_ just give me a yes/no on that
[13:31] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/3vjh (how do I quit the dist-upgrader in a safe way?)
[13:31] <ace_me> how could I add elpa-graphviz-dot-mode in docker ?
[13:32] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: i think just typing x will quit the dist-upgrader
[13:32] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/yet7
[13:32] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, x worked, should I paste again?
[13:32] <FrostFeline> pragmaticenigma: What a drag
[13:33] <achen_> taterttoz : yup, tried and it still said the disks were in use
[13:33] <achen_> tatertotz: althought i think this direction might be it
[13:33] <FrostFeline> I did try unplugging keyboard and mouse as you suggest but the monitors just turn back on immediately
[13:33] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: paste what? i'm just reviewing your three pastes
[13:34] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: this actually looks like your upgrade succeeded and you just didn't notice.
[13:34] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, I run the two commands you told me while the dist-upgrader was still opened, I don't think it makes a difference, but if it does I can run them again now that I closed the dist-upgrader
[13:34] <tatertotz> achen_ you can create a software raid 0 consisting of one single 2TB drive
[13:35] <tatertotz> achen_ but if your goal is to have 4TB for data...your going to be spending $ on more disks no matter how you slice it
[13:35] <aneon> don't understand why there isn't any provision for manually creating vgs and mount points inside encrypted LVM in 18.04
[13:35] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, it gave an error at some point saying "The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state.", ran "dpkg --configure -a" automatically and then it got stuck like in the paste
[13:35] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: oh, good point, but no, i don't think it makes a difference. your apt sources were already pointing to disco before you left the dist-upgrader screen session
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> FrostFeline: Without knowing what state the monitors were in prior to that... it's not detailed enough to make any suggestion on what to look for next. If you recently installed any applications, try removing them. Use a back up image of the machine from when it was behaving as expected. Make sure you don't have ny video applications running, including web browsers that might be playing back a video on a website like YouTube
[13:36] <aneon> there is only /
[13:36] <Taggnostr> I think it also said the upgrade was complete after trying dpkg, even though it didn't look like dpkg did anything (I think it might have even given an error, but I couldn't get it from the backlog)
[13:36] <ellyacht> I have two drives in my computer and when I installed Ubuntu on the second drive and chose that drive as the boot loading device with a partition specifically for that, Ubuntu still touched my other drive?
[13:37] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: we should see which kernel images are installed:   dpkg -l linux\* | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:37] <ellyacht> How do I install without touching the other drive?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> ellyacht= easy way: disconnect that drive and install.  then re-plug and reconfigure grub
[13:38] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/hz46 (fwiw I think the upgrade got stuck while updating libvlc, and it was already running for a while)
[13:38] <aneon> this is the most dysfunctional installer I have ever seen
[13:39] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: I also have a notification saying that there are security upgrades available
[13:39] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: then regenerate the read-only file system which is used during boot, just the one for the newly installed 19.04 kernel   sudo update-initramfs -c -k 5.0.0-15-generic
[13:39] <aneon> time to write zeros and find something else
[13:39] <BluesKaj> ellyacht, how do you mean, "touch the other drive" if you don't install to it then it won't be affected
[13:39] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: yes, there is one updatze pending, you should install it.
[13:39] <ellyacht> cfhowlett: I have done that in that in the past and it works but two things A. It's a laptop so it's time consuming and B. The moment I update grub on either drive it picks up the fact that there are more than one OS and combines the two to /dev/sda
[13:40] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: python3-urllib3 (will be upgraded from version 1.24.1-1 to 1.24.1-1ubuntu0.1)
[13:40] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, done: http://dpaste.com/06M4Q4A
[13:41] <cfhowlett> ellyacht= I haven't done this but I would believe you can disable a drive in the bios.  same as physical removal (?).  and don't you want grub to know about the other OS?
[13:41] <ipp> Why is grub not seeing the windows on nvme0n1p1? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tYvXpJFvPm/
[13:41] <ellyacht> BlueKaj: I didn't install it to /dev/sda and I even choose not to touch any of the partitions on /dev/sda but Ubuntu install still managed to combine the two OS boot loader onto /dev/sda instead of the chosen boot loader of /dev/sdb1
[13:41] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: to remove the old packages and their configurations:   sudo apt --purge autoremove
[13:42] <ellyacht> cfhowlett: on my particular laptop even if you disable the drive in bios it still gets effected
[13:42] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: do you use full disk encryption? do you need to enter a passphrase at boot?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> grr.  OK.
[13:42] <coconut> I have an old Fujitsu Siemens here and try to boot a live usb with ubuntu-mate-19.04 on it. It says: "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt. Operating system not found." Iso is shasum valid. What should i check?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> ellyacht, always use manual partitioning when you have multi drives or partitions
[13:43] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, done, and no, I don't have any full disk encryption
[13:43] <ellyacht> That's why in the past I've taken out ssd m2 and installed my OS on ssd 2.5" but there has to be a way
[13:43] <ellyacht> BlueKaj: I did use manual parti
[13:43] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: so we can do as the message suggests:  sudo apt purge cryptsetup-initramfs
[13:44] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: please also run and show the output of:   sudo update-grub
[13:44] <FrostFeline> pragmaticenigma: I don't think it ever really worked correctly, but I don't keep snapshots of my entire OS
[13:44] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, I use lvm, but I don't think it's related
[13:44] <tatertotz> achen_ http://termbin.com/ir2e  if you present unused devices i wouldn't expect any errors and you'd have a healthy array like shown in the url/link
[13:45] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: http://dpaste.com/0YTZK3Q
[13:45] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: not related, but it's good to know
[13:46] <ellyacht> Not only did I use manual partitioning I created a swap for Ubuntu a / and a /home and  a /boot/efi
[13:46] <achen_> tatertotz :i understand, thanks alot brother will look into it
[13:47] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: we need yet to install grub, the updated boot loader, and need to find out where to install it to. do you boot via uefi or bios?   [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[13:47] <ellyacht> There's really no other way other than physically removing /dev/sda and never doing a grub update is there?
[13:47] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: what i posted is a command you can run as it is, starting with the square bracket
[13:47] <Taggnostr> tomreyn, BIOS
[13:48] <tomreyn> lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:48] <tomreyn> Taggnostr: ^ please run this so we can inspect your partitionins
[13:50] <ellyacht> Who's that lsblk for?
[13:50] <tomreyn> list block devices
[13:50] <ellyacht> I know what it does lol.
[13:50] <ellyacht> Who's tag
[13:50] <tomreyn> oh "who", sorry, i read "what"
[13:51] <tomreyn> ellyacht: i posted this for Taggnostr
[13:51] <ellyacht> Ok
[13:51] <ellyacht> So it's a definite? I have to physically remove the one drive so that's it ntlot effected?
[13:53] <Taggnostr> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/jkmo
[13:53] <FrostFeline> pragmaticenigma: I tried turning off my browser, but no my paused youtube video wasn't the culprit. Thanks for trying though. I think I'll just use the power switches
[13:54] <leftyfb> ellyacht: set the ubuntu drive as the main/first boot drive in your BIOS/EFI. If you do not, GRUB will never automatically write anything to the 2nd drive unless you tell it to.