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k3dar7vte problem in launchpad/build? i try build xfce4-terminal myself and build/run ok (after install libvte-2.91-dev libpcre2-dev)00:02
Unit193vte in bionic didn't build against pcre2, so that had to be patched out of xfce4-terminal.00:03
k3dar7i build git clone of https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-terminal with libvte-2.91-dev and libpcre2-dev from bionic oficial repo00:05
k3dar7sorry, i maybe not understand :)00:06
Unit193`apt-cache policy libvte-2.91-dev`?00:07
k3dar7https://pastebin.com/raw/bDqnUv4q00:08
k3dar7wait a moment, relogin after upgraded xfdesktop400:13
Unit193I just killall xfdesktop4, but yeah that shouldn't work for xfce4-terminal...00:15
k3dar7for terminal after install selfbuild i only close all terminals, but for xfdesktop4 i not sure if kill it is enought :)00:20
k3dar7offtopic, is any change in KillUserProcesses=no ? i have it in logind.conf and for sure in logind.conf.d/somename.conf, but tmux is killed :)00:22
Unit193`loginctl enable-linger`00:24
Unit193k3dar7: Ah right!  I remember now, the terminal will build, but you won't be able to click any links.00:27
k3dar7"loginctl enable-linger" not help, although /var/lib/systemd/linger/meusername is created, nevermind, back to ontopic :) i go try terminal with links00:29
Unit193OK, that's how I get screen to stick around.00:30
k3dar7with terminal you right, git build not have underline/clickable links, in 0.8.7.4-0ubuntu0.18.04 is ok00:33
k3dar7terminal from git with applied ubuntu_vte_no_regex.patch have links ok: click_middle, open_link&copy_link from context menu00:50
Unit193Yes, it would.00:51
k3dar7is not clear/possible add this patch to lp build?00:53
Unit193It would be, but then it wouldn't be a no-change backport (and the vte mess really is frustrating, considering the poor reasoning.)00:54
k3dar7ans must be no-change? or is "only" better?01:13
k3dar7btw: xfce4-panel build after "cp libxfce4util-xfce-4.14pre1/libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/"01:14
k3dar7but when run thet say almost plugins not found and removed from panel conf :))01:14
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k3dar7problem with panel in /usr/local and plugins in /usr?01:15
k3dar7confirm, if copy installed plugins to /usr/local/... then compiled xfce4-panel-xfce-4.14pre1 on 18.04 run ok with load all plugins02:09
k3dar7can me problem with building on lp only missed libxfce4util-1.0.gir ?02:09
k3dar7*can be02:09
Unit193ochosi, bluesabre: I don't suppose it'd work to upstream our com.ubuntu.pkexec.mousepad.policy.in and Thunar/uca.xml.in?07:02
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: powersj says demote it now, and promote mailman3 when ready @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=74d15b1191b1a9a9e392bf99511a87ec1fdca250 (by Dimitri John Ledkov)11:47
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ochosiUnit193: oh wow :) panel because all the plugins would need rebuilding..?14:05
Unit193All gtk2 panel plugins would conflict with it, yeah.14:05
ochosi:/14:05
Unit193(Specifically, their depends go as xfce4-panel (>= 4.11), xfce4-panel (<< 4.13), so the new panel would be held back.)14:07
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k3dar7Unit193: please, is any chance you add xfce4-terminal (with patch from 18.04 repo source) and xfce4-panel (with libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir from libxfce4util-xfce-4.14pre1) ? :-)20:45
Unit193Why are you looking for introspection support?20:48
ochosiUnit193: upgraded a laptop at work today to 4.14pre1 via the PPA, thanks again <320:52
Unit193Happy that it is useful.20:54
k3dar7Unit193: introspection? i only looking for support latest LTS in yours PPA :)21:02
k3dar7Unit193: i know that 18.04 is not pripary for Xubuntu-Dev, but if compilation still work, why not have all latest packages? :-)21:03
k3dar7*primary21:03
Unit193You were asking about libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir, introspection, which isn't something we or Debian currently enables.  Because it breaks packages in the archive seems like a good reason to me.21:05
EickmeyerAnybody aware of anything upstream on the status of bug 1291855?21:06
ubottubug 1291855 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "After pulseaudio restart, volume keys no longer work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129185521:06
k3dar7oh, ok, me bad, i write about this, because this is need while i build panel manualy21:06
brainwashEickmeyer: xubuntu does not use xfce4-volumed I think21:11
brainwashanymore21:11
EickmeyerOh! What is used instead?21:12
EickmeyerWe have people coming to #ubuntustudio asking why their volume keys don't work anymore after they've switched between Jack and PulseAudio as their sound server.21:12
Unit193Indeed not, and even then Ubuntu has used a forked version for a while.  Now xfce4-volumed-pulse exists upstream, which is closer to what we have.21:13
EickmeyerThe only way has been the workaround I mentioned in that bug report.21:13
brainwashxfce4-pulseaudio-plugin21:13
brainwashthat one manages media keys now21:13
EickmeyerOkay, we might have to make a change in our seed.21:14
* Eickmeyer wishes more people would test Studio before we release it to prevent these bugs21:14
brainwashit is a panel plugin21:15
EickmeyerSo was xfce4-volumed iirc.21:15
Unit193No21:16
EickmeyerOkay then. We just need to remove that from our seed and make sure the panel plugin is handling audio events. We might need some help with that.21:16
Unit193Also indicator-sound would need to go, presuming you ship it.21:17
EickmeyerNot sure, I'm on the wrong machine right now.21:18
Unit193Also, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1533221:21
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 15332 in General "Automatically reconnect to PulseAudio" [Normal,New]21:21
EickmeyerUnit193: Thanks. Our seed hasn't been changed much in 3 years when it comes to the Xfce stuff, so there have been some changes that haven't made it apparently. :/21:29

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