[00:02] <k3dar7> vte problem in launchpad/build? i try build xfce4-terminal myself and build/run ok (after install libvte-2.91-dev libpcre2-dev)
[00:03] <Unit193> vte in bionic didn't build against pcre2, so that had to be patched out of xfce4-terminal.
[00:05] <k3dar7> i build git clone of https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-terminal with libvte-2.91-dev and libpcre2-dev from bionic oficial repo
[00:06] <k3dar7> sorry, i maybe not understand :)
[00:07] <Unit193> `apt-cache policy libvte-2.91-dev`?
[00:08] <k3dar7> https://pastebin.com/raw/bDqnUv4q
[00:13] <k3dar7> wait a moment, relogin after upgraded xfdesktop4
[00:15] <Unit193> I just killall xfdesktop4, but yeah that shouldn't work for xfce4-terminal...
[00:20] <k3dar7> for terminal after install selfbuild i only close all terminals, but for xfdesktop4 i not sure if kill it is enought :)
[00:22] <k3dar7> offtopic, is any change in KillUserProcesses=no ? i have it in logind.conf and for sure in logind.conf.d/somename.conf, but tmux is killed :)
[00:24] <Unit193> `loginctl enable-linger`
[00:27] <Unit193> k3dar7: Ah right!  I remember now, the terminal will build, but you won't be able to click any links.
[00:29] <k3dar7> "loginctl enable-linger" not help, although /var/lib/systemd/linger/meusername is created, nevermind, back to ontopic :) i go try terminal with links
[00:30] <Unit193> OK, that's how I get screen to stick around.
[00:33] <k3dar7> with terminal you right, git build not have underline/clickable links, in 0.8.7.4-0ubuntu0.18.04 is ok
[00:50] <k3dar7> terminal from git with applied ubuntu_vte_no_regex.patch have links ok: click_middle, open_link&copy_link from context menu
[00:51] <Unit193> Yes, it would.
[00:53] <k3dar7> is not clear/possible add this patch to lp build?
[00:54] <Unit193> It would be, but then it wouldn't be a no-change backport (and the vte mess really is frustrating, considering the poor reasoning.)
[01:13] <k3dar7> ans must be no-change? or is "only" better?
[01:14] <k3dar7> btw: xfce4-panel build after "cp libxfce4util-xfce-4.14pre1/libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/"
[01:14] <k3dar7> but when run thet say almost plugins not found and removed from panel conf :))
[01:15] <k3dar7> problem with panel in /usr/local and plugins in /usr?
[02:09] <k3dar7> confirm, if copy installed plugins to /usr/local/... then compiled xfce4-panel-xfce-4.14pre1 on 18.04 run ok with load all plugins
[02:09] <k3dar7> can me problem with building on lp only missed libxfce4util-1.0.gir ?
[02:09] <k3dar7> *can be
[07:02] <Unit193> ochosi, bluesabre: I don't suppose it'd work to upstream our com.ubuntu.pkexec.mousepad.policy.in and Thunar/uca.xml.in?
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[14:05] <ochosi> Unit193: oh wow :) panel because all the plugins would need rebuilding..?
[14:05] <Unit193> All gtk2 panel plugins would conflict with it, yeah.
[14:05] <ochosi> :/
[14:07] <Unit193> (Specifically, their depends go as xfce4-panel (>= 4.11), xfce4-panel (<< 4.13), so the new panel would be held back.)
[20:45] <k3dar7> Unit193: please, is any chance you add xfce4-terminal (with patch from 18.04 repo source) and xfce4-panel (with libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir from libxfce4util-xfce-4.14pre1) ? :-)
[20:48] <Unit193> Why are you looking for introspection support?
[20:52] <ochosi> Unit193: upgraded a laptop at work today to 4.14pre1 via the PPA, thanks again <3
[20:54] <Unit193> Happy that it is useful.
[21:02] <k3dar7> Unit193: introspection? i only looking for support latest LTS in yours PPA :)
[21:03] <k3dar7> Unit193: i know that 18.04 is not pripary for Xubuntu-Dev, but if compilation still work, why not have all latest packages? :-)
[21:03] <k3dar7> *primary
[21:05] <Unit193> You were asking about libxfce4util/libxfce4util-1.0.gir, introspection, which isn't something we or Debian currently enables.  Because it breaks packages in the archive seems like a good reason to me.
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> Anybody aware of anything upstream on the status of bug 1291855?
[21:06] <k3dar7> oh, ok, me bad, i write about this, because this is need while i build panel manualy
[21:11] <brainwash> Eickmeyer: xubuntu does not use xfce4-volumed I think
[21:11] <brainwash> anymore
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> Oh! What is used instead?
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> We have people coming to #ubuntustudio asking why their volume keys don't work anymore after they've switched between Jack and PulseAudio as their sound server.
[21:13] <Unit193> Indeed not, and even then Ubuntu has used a forked version for a while.  Now xfce4-volumed-pulse exists upstream, which is closer to what we have.
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> The only way has been the workaround I mentioned in that bug report.
[21:13] <brainwash> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
[21:13] <brainwash> that one manages media keys now
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> Okay, we might have to make a change in our seed.
[21:14]  * Eickmeyer wishes more people would test Studio before we release it to prevent these bugs
[21:15] <brainwash> it is a panel plugin
[21:15] <Eickmeyer> So was xfce4-volumed iirc.
[21:16] <Unit193> No
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> Okay then. We just need to remove that from our seed and make sure the panel plugin is handling audio events. We might need some help with that.
[21:17] <Unit193> Also indicator-sound would need to go, presuming you ship it.
[21:18] <Eickmeyer> Not sure, I'm on the wrong machine right now.
[21:21] <Unit193> Also, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15332
[21:29] <Eickmeyer> Unit193: Thanks. Our seed hasn't been changed much in 3 years when it comes to the Xfce stuff, so there have been some changes that haven't made it apparently. :/