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lynorianis lubot down again?18:35
lubot<tsimonq2> Maybe lugito18:51
lynorianyeah sorry got the bots confused18:56
lynorianno more commit notifications for me18:56
tewardbot is dead long live the bot19:04
wxl@tsimonq2: the weird ghost desktop files were fixed in libfm-qt 0.14.1-6 but it seems we're on -0. what gives? 19:48
wxl@tsimonq2: actually debian is up to -8 now19:48
lubot<teward001> Simon's overworked with exams and crap19:53
lubot<teward001> only explanation19:53
wxl@teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that timeframe.....19:56
wxlsigh i guess i need to sign up motu or whatever :/20:00
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [Simon's overworked with exams and crap], This20:07
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that t …], Correct20:07
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> He had to handwrite 7 java programs20:09
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> HAND WRITE20:09
lubot<tsimonq2> @UniversalSuperBox [He had to handwrite 7 java programs], *820:09
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl has upload access, why has it taken him a month?20:15
lubot<tsimonq2> :P20:15
wxlbecause you said you would do it.20:15
wxlmultiple times.20:15
lubot<tsimonq2> I have also said that this is the most stressful academic push I've ever had20:16
wxlalso the issue is a sync and i don't quite get that.20:16
wxlso wait we will i guess.20:16
lynorianI don't know much packaging but have gotten some of the sddm greeter customizing in the manual20:16
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that t …], yes he's neglecting Lubuntu in favor of patch piloting.20:16
lubot<teward001> :P20:16
lubot<teward001> just kidding lol20:17
lubot<teward001> but he's had some recent academic chaos headaches20:17
lubot<teward001> as he said20:17
lubot<teward001> *picks up @tsimonq2 and locks him in a room to study*20:17
lynorianI remember AP exams and I only had 3 of them20:17
lubot<tsimonq2> I took four this year, as well as the ACT, as well as FICB state, as well as finals, as well as starting college, as well as work, and misc school assignments20:19
lubot<tsimonq2> I haven't had time for much20:19
lubot<lynorian> that does sound crazy busy20:20
lubot<tsimonq2> It's stressing me out20:20
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl nagging me doesn't help. :P20:20
lubot<tsimonq2> Please, JFDI20:20
lubot<tsimonq2> If you have any questions, ask @acheronuk or @teward001 or someone else with upload access20:20
lubot<tsimonq2> Things are improving but I'm not ready to come back completely yet20:20
lubot<teward001> > upload access < you mean to Phab?20:21
lubot<teward001> or repos?20:21
lubot<teward001> *isn't Core Dev yet*20:21
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [> upload access < you mean to Phab?], To nginx20:26
lubot<tsimonq2> Because general packaging knowledge20:26
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl is a Lubuntu Developer20:26
lubot<tsimonq2> He has access to upload20:26
lubot<tsimonq2> But decides that nagging me is easier :P20:26
wxl@acheronuk: do you have access/knowledge to sync libfm-qt from debian? we're well behind.20:38
lubot<tsimonq2> He's a MOTu20:38
lubot<acheronuk> @wxl [<wxl> @acheronuk: do you have access/knowledge to sync libfm-qt from debian? we' …], Permission wise, yes. Being near a PC I can do that from now, no.20:39
lynorian@acheronuk you will not be away from a month will you20:40
wxl@acheronuk sometime in the near future is all that's needed. then i'll probably need a pcmanfm-qt no-change rebuild20:41
lynorianmaybe lximage-qt as well20:41
lubot<acheronuk> I have been busy this week, but next few days I will have time I hope20:42
wxlthat will be fine20:43
wxlbtw simon has scheduled an ubuntu flavors hangup for our standup so that's a thing20:44
kc2bez^ ?20:45
lynorianwhat do we join the flavors hangup with?20:47
wxlif anyone does want to join this ubuntu-flavors business https://meet.google.com/dzh-oycg-csx21:03
kc2bezI would but I am at an event for one of the kids. 21:11
wxlunderstood21:12
wxloh i guess we need to start our own meeting21:13
wxlthat said21:14
wxl!standup21:14
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting!21:14
wxlwho's here?21:15
lubot<HMollerCl> \o21:15
lynorian\o21:15
wxlanyone else/21:16
wxlok i guess that's it then21:17
wxlwhy don't we go in order; i'll go last21:17
lubot<HMollerCl> I can go, first21:18
lubot<HMollerCl> since I have not much to say21:18
lubot<HMollerCl> last 3 weeks has been really stressfull at work, I work in statistic office here and we found out that consumer price index have been mapnipulated. So, a lot is happening here, and not much time for lubuntu21:19
wxlwhoa21:19
wxlwell you did one thing that was pretty awesomre21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> Giving that, the only thing I did this wee is the wiki page for porting gtk to qt.21:19
wxlthat's the one21:20
wxlbig stuff21:20
lubot<HMollerCl> I hope that people can use it and complement it.21:20
lubot<HMollerCl> And I'm still learning to pakcage python code, I thought it was easier...21:21
lubot<HMollerCl> I hope I wouldn't have the buidl/compile mess of c++21:21
lubot<HMollerCl> and I'm noty sure is better....21:21
lubot<HMollerCl> anyway, still learning to package the lubuntu-update-notifier21:22
wxloh i didn't know you were doing that. 21:22
wxloh excellent21:22
lubot<HMollerCl> EOL/CR21:22
wxlgood job!21:23
wxl@lynorian: you're up21:23
lynorianI got some more of sddm base configuration21:24
lynorianand how to change to a different theme21:24
lynorianAdded many different screenshots21:24
lynorianadded how to customize different shortcuts in Kcalc21:25
lynorianhow to stop annoying notifications on vms from with power manager not finding a battery21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> ^what's this?21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm not sure I've seen those notifications21:27
lynorianif you try to enable battery wathcer with no battery it gets an annoying notification every boot21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> ooo, only on vm?21:28
lynorianor desktop21:28
lynorianthumbnails from lximage21:28
lynoriannoted where slideshow pictures come from in lximage-qt21:29
lynorianandded recent files in lximage-qt21:30
lynorianI also had new effects in the effects and filters of vlc which still has a large amount of undocumented stuff21:31
lynorianbut things like the compressor effect I don't really know that much about21:31
lynorianI also have been moving screenshots closer to the text that describes them when I add new text sometimes I drive too much of a wege21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> in case of vlc, wouldn't be easier to link to the vlc manual? (or wiki)21:32
lynorianand there were a ton of screenshots21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> I mean, vlc should be well documented in his site, not like lxqt.21:33
lubot<HMollerCl> and focus in things that have weaker documentation.21:34
lynorianmostly windows screenshots though21:35
wxlthat it?21:36
lynorianyes it was many different screenshots21:37
wxli meant did you have anything else to add? we all know your work is plentiful and we are extremely grateful!21:38
lynorianI did also have a typo get fixed in upstream trojita21:38
lynorianthat I reported21:38
wxloh i saw that! that was cool :)21:38
wxlok, i guess i'll go then21:40
wxlprepare for the spew21:40
wxl * BUG TRIAGE 21:40
wxl   * Started exploring apparently many issues related to brightness/backlight: bug 182964121:40
wxl * TASKS21:40
wxl   * Redirect forum.lubuntu.me to discourse.lubuntu.me https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8021:40
wxl   * Discourse mailing list mode/reply by email https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8121:40
ubot93Bug 1829641 in lxqt-config (Ubuntu) "brightness keys on laptop don't dim the backlight" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182964121:40
wxl   * Backups for Discourse https://phab.lubuntu.me/T7921:40
wxl   * Added old info and generalized Ubuntu SSO https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3521:40
wxl* INFRASTRUCTURE21:40
wxl   * Restored and updated the testing wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/21:40
wxl   * Did a major overhaul on the links page, removing deprecated social links, adding Discourse, generalizing Matrix, etc.: https://lubuntu.me/links/21:40
wxl   * Added Discourse ("forum") to the website menu21:40
wxl   * Added a link to the Discourse dev category on Phab21:40
wxl   * Announced Discourse to the mailing lists21:40
wxl   * Added GitHub logins to Discourse21:40
wxl * OTHER UPSTREAM21:40
wxl   * Answered a question about when new touchpad settings are coming to Lubuntu: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/issues/405#issuecomment-49365110221:40
ubot93Issue 405 in lxqt/lxqt-config "Touchpad Settings (Request)" [Open]21:40
wxl * MISCELLANEOUS21:40
wxl   * Answered LOTS of questions on Discourse21:40
wxl   * Put out a dumpster fire on the mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2019-May/012343.html21:40
wxl * TODO21:40
wxl   * Make a SRU for usb-creator-kde stretching back to xenial through disco: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5121:40
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: do you saw this right button touchpad thing?21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> the two-finger tap?21:42
wxlthe mac one?21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> yup21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> (I discovered this week that it existed)21:43
wxlmy response (which i left here, not on the question) was that i saw it as a general libinput question21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> That's the only configuration I don't know if it's present in 19.0421:43
wxlthe linked question had an answer that solved it by libinput21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> the other that I know are.21:43
wxlproblem is i don't have the hardware to play with21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> I have a dell xps m1210 (2006) I think I can play with.21:44
wxlok21:45
wxloh i plan to look a little deeper into the whole brightness thing21:45
wxlanyone else?21:49
wxlk i guess we're done :)21:52
lubot<HMollerCl> I guess to21:52
kc2bezMy apologies, that event took much longer than I expected.22:18
kc2bezI have a paste.22:18
wxlno problem22:18
wxlfire away22:18
kc2bezFound and reported bug 182980522:18
kc2bezI have added some comments for things I have tried.22:18
kc2bezBased on the error, it seems as if the file system doesn't get created correctly but you can mount it from a live environment.22:18
kc2bezConfirmed bug 182969322:18
kc2bezHaven't got back to look at it further due to the first bug.22:18
ubot93Bug 1829805 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182980522:18
kc2bezBig news in bug 182684422:18
ubot93Bug 1829693 in qtpass (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Daily ISO (May 19) QtPass error GnuPG not found" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182969322:18
ubot93Bug 1826844 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu Eoan) "nvidia-drivers-* are not on the ISO" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182684422:18
kc2bezThat is it from me.22:19
wxlcool thx22:20
guiverc2wxl, question: did you see the ubuntu.pad or pastebin or whatever I did?  (brightness, backlight)22:20
wxlguiverc2: i did. thank you very much!!!!!22:20
guiverc2:) anytime you've got monkey stuff I can do...22:21
guiverc2(ditto anyone)22:21
wxlwow that's really weird i didn't notice that, dan22:21
wxldoes that happen with or without encryption?22:22
kc2bezI didn't try encryption. Next on the list I guess. 22:22
kc2bezIt seems weird that encryption would work. 22:23
kc2bezI haven't tried today's ISO either. 22:25
kc2bezNo go on today's ISO and luks on BIOS or EFI both fail too.23:05
kc2bezKernel panics all around.23:05
lubot<SamuelBanya> I'm here way late. I'm on my way to my mom's house for the weekend. I've created a repo on my github to help port redshift from gtk to qt and Hans has been giving me good advice on what to look out for since I tried the docs approach but didn't realize the latest docs are in C++ anyway so you have to take each line and make it Pyt23:08
lubothon compatible, ie using dot operators for classes instead of the double colon ::23:08
wxlthanks Samuel. glad to hear things are coming along, however slowly and surely23:12
wxlkc2bez: the note about the filesystem being able to mount is kind of telling. 23:12
wxl(in live)23:12
wxlyou should add that to the bug report23:13
kc2bezI will add that to the report.23:13
wxlthanks23:13
kc2bezAny thoughts on logs I should poke at? The install log looks normal like it installed correctly and I don't think the system gets far enough to generate much.23:18
wxlthe problem is i don't think you'll be able to get to any useful info23:19
kc2bezI was afraid of that.23:20
kc2bezTwo mental roadblocks for me. 1) The live environment seems to work fine, In a way that seems to potentially rule out kernel issues. 2) What do we do different from other flavors besides DE and Installer. For DE see 1). For the installer, that hasn't changed since 19.0423:26
wxlthe kernel has changed tho23:27
kc2bezTrue but why does the issue not present itself in live?23:27
wxlthat i'm not sure of23:28
wxlmaybe it's some edge case about how calamares does things that makes new grub and/or kernel grumpy23:28
wxlseeing a kernel panic makes me think it has to be, well, a kernel panic23:29
wxlissue i mean23:29
kc2bezIt does point in that direction.23:29
kc2bezI can pull in 3.2.7 from stable CI and see if that is different.23:30
wxlthat would be interesting23:30
wxli mean we're going to have to bring it in anyways23:30
kc2bezI tested it after I packaged it so it did work at one point.23:31
wxlmaybe kill two birds with one stone and do 3.2.823:36
wxlbtw why don't we have 3.2.7 uploaded? simon didn't do that for you?23:37
kc2bezI dunno, he asked me to put it in stable CI so I did.23:37
wxluh23:38
wxli'm not sure what he's thinking23:38
wxlcould you email him and try to figure it out?23:39
kc2bezSure, I can do that.23:40
kc2bezIt doesn't seem to work any better though.23:40
wxlsame problem huh23:40
kc2bezyup23:40
wxlsigh23:41
wxlwell it would be nice to have newer cala anyways23:41
kc2bezTrue, we were able to drop some of the patches we had.23:42
kc2bezSeems like big differences in 3.2.8 though. We might need a updated KPMcore.23:43
wxlyeah i think that's true23:44

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