[18:35] <lynorian> is lubot down again?
 Maybe lugito
[18:56] <lynorian> yeah sorry got the bots confused
[18:56] <lynorian> no more commit notifications for me
[19:04] <teward> bot is dead long live the bot
[19:48] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the weird ghost desktop files were fixed in libfm-qt 0.14.1-6 but it seems we're on -0. what gives? 
[19:48] <wxl> @tsimonq2: actually debian is up to -8 now
 Simon's overworked with exams and crap
 only explanation
[19:56] <wxl> @teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that timeframe.....
[20:00] <wxl> sigh i guess i need to sign up motu or whatever :/
 @teward001 [Simon's overworked with exams and crap], This
 @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that t …], Correct
 He had to handwrite 7 java programs
 HAND WRITE
 @UniversalSuperBox [He had to handwrite 7 java programs], *8
 wxl has upload access, why has it taken him a month?
 :P
[20:15] <wxl> because you said you would do it.
[20:15] <wxl> multiple times.
 I have also said that this is the most stressful academic push I've ever had
[20:16] <wxl> also the issue is a sync and i don't quite get that.
[20:16] <wxl> so wait we will i guess.
[20:16] <lynorian> I don't know much packaging but have gotten some of the sddm greeter customizing in the manual
 @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 for the last month? he's been doing patch pilot stuff in that t …], yes he's neglecting Lubuntu in favor of patch piloting.
 :P
 just kidding lol
 but he's had some recent academic chaos headaches
 as he said
 *picks up @tsimonq2 and locks him in a room to study*
[20:17] <lynorian> I remember AP exams and I only had 3 of them
 I took four this year, as well as the ACT, as well as FICB state, as well as finals, as well as starting college, as well as work, and misc school assignments
 I haven't had time for much
 that does sound crazy busy
 It's stressing me out
 wxl nagging me doesn't help. :P
 Please, JFDI
 If you have any questions, ask @acheronuk or @teward001 or someone else with upload access
 Things are improving but I'm not ready to come back completely yet
 > upload access < you mean to Phab?
 or repos?
 *isn't Core Dev yet*
 @teward001 [> upload access < you mean to Phab?], To nginx
 Because general packaging knowledge
 wxl is a Lubuntu Developer
 He has access to upload
 But decides that nagging me is easier :P
[20:38] <wxl> @acheronuk: do you have access/knowledge to sync libfm-qt from debian? we're well behind.
 He's a MOTu
 @wxl [<wxl> @acheronuk: do you have access/knowledge to sync libfm-qt from debian? we' …], Permission wise, yes. Being near a PC I can do that from now, no.
[20:40] <lynorian> @acheronuk you will not be away from a month will you
[20:41] <wxl> @acheronuk sometime in the near future is all that's needed. then i'll probably need a pcmanfm-qt no-change rebuild
[20:41] <lynorian> maybe lximage-qt as well
 I have been busy this week, but next few days I will have time I hope
[20:43] <wxl> that will be fine
[20:44] <wxl> btw simon has scheduled an ubuntu flavors hangup for our standup so that's a thing
[20:45] <kc2bez> ^ ?
[20:47] <lynorian> what do we join the flavors hangup with?
[21:03] <wxl> if anyone does want to join this ubuntu-flavors business https://meet.google.com/dzh-oycg-csx
[21:11] <kc2bez> I would but I am at an event for one of the kids. 
[21:12] <wxl> understood
[21:13] <wxl> oh i guess we need to start our own meeting
[21:14] <wxl> that said
[21:14] <wxl> !standup
[21:15] <wxl> who's here?
 \o
[21:15] <lynorian> \o
[21:16] <wxl> anyone else/
[21:17] <wxl> ok i guess that's it then
[21:17] <wxl> why don't we go in order; i'll go last
 I can go, first
 since I have not much to say
 last 3 weeks has been really stressfull at work, I work in statistic office here and we found out that consumer price index have been mapnipulated. So, a lot is happening here, and not much time for lubuntu
[21:19] <wxl> whoa
[21:19] <wxl> well you did one thing that was pretty awesomre
 Giving that, the only thing I did this wee is the wiki page for porting gtk to qt.
[21:20] <wxl> that's the one
[21:20] <wxl> big stuff
 I hope that people can use it and complement it.
 And I'm still learning to pakcage python code, I thought it was easier...
 I hope I wouldn't have the buidl/compile mess of c++
 and I'm noty sure is better....
 anyway, still learning to package the lubuntu-update-notifier
[21:22] <wxl> oh i didn't know you were doing that. 
[21:22] <wxl> oh excellent
 EOL/CR
[21:23] <wxl> good job!
[21:23] <wxl> @lynorian: you're up
[21:24] <lynorian> I got some more of sddm base configuration
[21:24] <lynorian> and how to change to a different theme
[21:24] <lynorian> Added many different screenshots
[21:25] <lynorian> added how to customize different shortcuts in Kcalc
[21:26] <lynorian> how to stop annoying notifications on vms from with power manager not finding a battery
 ^what's this?
 I'm not sure I've seen those notifications
[21:27] <lynorian> if you try to enable battery wathcer with no battery it gets an annoying notification every boot
 ooo, only on vm?
[21:28] <lynorian> or desktop
[21:28] <lynorian> thumbnails from lximage
[21:29] <lynorian> noted where slideshow pictures come from in lximage-qt
[21:30] <lynorian> andded recent files in lximage-qt
[21:31] <lynorian> I also had new effects in the effects and filters of vlc which still has a large amount of undocumented stuff
[21:31] <lynorian> but things like the compressor effect I don't really know that much about
[21:31] <lynorian> I also have been moving screenshots closer to the text that describes them when I add new text sometimes I drive too much of a wege
 in case of vlc, wouldn't be easier to link to the vlc manual? (or wiki)
[21:32] <lynorian> and there were a ton of screenshots
 I mean, vlc should be well documented in his site, not like lxqt.
 and focus in things that have weaker documentation.
[21:35] <lynorian> mostly windows screenshots though
[21:36] <wxl> that it?
[21:37] <lynorian> yes it was many different screenshots
[21:38] <wxl> i meant did you have anything else to add? we all know your work is plentiful and we are extremely grateful!
[21:38] <lynorian> I did also have a typo get fixed in upstream trojita
[21:38] <lynorian> that I reported
[21:38] <wxl> oh i saw that! that was cool :)
[21:40] <wxl> ok, i guess i'll go then
[21:40] <wxl> prepare for the spew
[21:40] <wxl>  * BUG TRIAGE 
[21:40] <wxl>    * Started exploring apparently many issues related to brightness/backlight: bug 1829641
[21:40] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:40] <wxl>    * Redirect forum.lubuntu.me to discourse.lubuntu.me https://phab.lubuntu.me/T80
[21:40] <wxl>    * Discourse mailing list mode/reply by email https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81
[21:40] <wxl>    * Backups for Discourse https://phab.lubuntu.me/T79
[21:40] <wxl>    * Added old info and generalized Ubuntu SSO https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35
[21:40] <wxl> * INFRASTRUCTURE
[21:40] <wxl>    * Restored and updated the testing wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/
[21:40] <wxl>    * Did a major overhaul on the links page, removing deprecated social links, adding Discourse, generalizing Matrix, etc.: https://lubuntu.me/links/
[21:40] <wxl>    * Added Discourse ("forum") to the website menu
[21:40] <wxl>    * Added a link to the Discourse dev category on Phab
[21:40] <wxl>    * Announced Discourse to the mailing lists
[21:40] <wxl>    * Added GitHub logins to Discourse
[21:40] <wxl>  * OTHER UPSTREAM
[21:40] <wxl>    * Answered a question about when new touchpad settings are coming to Lubuntu: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/issues/405#issuecomment-493651102
[21:40] <wxl>  * MISCELLANEOUS
[21:40] <wxl>    * Answered LOTS of questions on Discourse
[21:40] <wxl>    * Put out a dumpster fire on the mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2019-May/012343.html
[21:40] <wxl>  * TODO
[21:40] <wxl>    * Make a SRU for usb-creator-kde stretching back to xenial through disco: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
 wxl: do you saw this right button touchpad thing?
 the two-finger tap?
[21:42] <wxl> the mac one?
 yup
 (I discovered this week that it existed)
[21:43] <wxl> my response (which i left here, not on the question) was that i saw it as a general libinput question
 That's the only configuration I don't know if it's present in 19.04
[21:43] <wxl> the linked question had an answer that solved it by libinput
 the other that I know are.
[21:44] <wxl> problem is i don't have the hardware to play with
 I have a dell xps m1210 (2006) I think I can play with.
[21:45] <wxl> ok
[21:45] <wxl> oh i plan to look a little deeper into the whole brightness thing
[21:49] <wxl> anyone else?
[21:52] <wxl> k i guess we're done :)
 I guess to
[22:18] <kc2bez> My apologies, that event took much longer than I expected.
[22:18] <kc2bez> I have a paste.
[22:18] <wxl> no problem
[22:18] <wxl> fire away
[22:18] <kc2bez> Found and reported bug 1829805
[22:18] <kc2bez> I have added some comments for things I have tried.
[22:18] <kc2bez> Based on the error, it seems as if the file system doesn't get created correctly but you can mount it from a live environment.
[22:18] <kc2bez> Confirmed bug 1829693
[22:18] <kc2bez> Haven't got back to look at it further due to the first bug.
[22:18] <kc2bez> Big news in bug 1826844
[22:19] <kc2bez> That is it from me.
[22:20] <wxl> cool thx
[22:20] <guiverc2> wxl, question: did you see the ubuntu.pad or pastebin or whatever I did?  (brightness, backlight)
[22:20] <wxl> guiverc2: i did. thank you very much!!!!!
[22:21] <guiverc2> :) anytime you've got monkey stuff I can do...
[22:21] <guiverc2> (ditto anyone)
[22:21] <wxl> wow that's really weird i didn't notice that, dan
[22:22] <wxl> does that happen with or without encryption?
[22:22] <kc2bez> I didn't try encryption. Next on the list I guess. 
[22:23] <kc2bez> It seems weird that encryption would work. 
[22:25] <kc2bez> I haven't tried today's ISO either. 
[23:05] <kc2bez> No go on today's ISO and luks on BIOS or EFI both fail too.
[23:05] <kc2bez> Kernel panics all around.
 I'm here way late. I'm on my way to my mom's house for the weekend. I've created a repo on my github to help port redshift from gtk to qt and Hans has been giving me good advice on what to look out for since I tried the docs approach but didn't realize the latest docs are in C++ anyway so you have to take each line and make it Pyt
[23:12] <wxl> thanks Samuel. glad to hear things are coming along, however slowly and surely
[23:12] <wxl> kc2bez: the note about the filesystem being able to mount is kind of telling. 
[23:12] <wxl> (in live)
[23:13] <wxl> you should add that to the bug report
[23:13] <kc2bez> I will add that to the report.
[23:13] <wxl> thanks
[23:18] <kc2bez> Any thoughts on logs I should poke at? The install log looks normal like it installed correctly and I don't think the system gets far enough to generate much.
[23:19] <wxl> the problem is i don't think you'll be able to get to any useful info
[23:20] <kc2bez> I was afraid of that.
[23:26] <kc2bez> Two mental roadblocks for me. 1) The live environment seems to work fine, In a way that seems to potentially rule out kernel issues. 2) What do we do different from other flavors besides DE and Installer. For DE see 1). For the installer, that hasn't changed since 19.04
[23:27] <wxl> the kernel has changed tho
[23:27] <kc2bez> True but why does the issue not present itself in live?
[23:28] <wxl> that i'm not sure of
[23:28] <wxl> maybe it's some edge case about how calamares does things that makes new grub and/or kernel grumpy
[23:29] <wxl> seeing a kernel panic makes me think it has to be, well, a kernel panic
[23:29] <wxl> issue i mean
[23:29] <kc2bez> It does point in that direction.
[23:30] <kc2bez> I can pull in 3.2.7 from stable CI and see if that is different.
[23:30] <wxl> that would be interesting
[23:30] <wxl> i mean we're going to have to bring it in anyways
[23:31] <kc2bez> I tested it after I packaged it so it did work at one point.
[23:36] <wxl> maybe kill two birds with one stone and do 3.2.8
[23:37] <wxl> btw why don't we have 3.2.7 uploaded? simon didn't do that for you?
[23:37] <kc2bez> I dunno, he asked me to put it in stable CI so I did.
[23:38] <wxl> uh
[23:38] <wxl> i'm not sure what he's thinking
[23:39] <wxl> could you email him and try to figure it out?
[23:40] <kc2bez> Sure, I can do that.
[23:40] <kc2bez> It doesn't seem to work any better though.
[23:40] <wxl> same problem huh
[23:40] <kc2bez> yup
[23:41] <wxl> sigh
[23:41] <wxl> well it would be nice to have newer cala anyways
[23:42] <kc2bez> True, we were able to drop some of the patches we had.
[23:43] <kc2bez> Seems like big differences in 3.2.8 though. We might need a updated KPMcore.
[23:44] <wxl> yeah i think that's true