[05:57] <duflu> Morning seb128
[05:57] <duflu> and the rest of Europe
[05:57] <duflu> and Africa
[06:10] <seb128> hey duflu & desktopers
[06:30] <didrocks> good morning
[06:38] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[06:38] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[06:50] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:50] <duflu> Morning didrocks, Wimpress, oSoMoN
[06:50] <marcustomlinson> morning!
[06:51] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu, good morning marcustomlinson
[07:00] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN, marcustomlinson
[07:00] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:01] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, could you look into https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/cant-use-input-method-in-snap-apps/4712/38 when you have some time?
[07:02] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: sure
[07:03] <oSoMoN> cheers
[07:08] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, also, libreoffice 6.2.4 is out
[07:16] <marcustomlinson> ack. I started a USN refresh this morning, should probably scrap that and bump the version
[07:20] <marcustomlinson> actually no, I'll do the refresh as well, will take me some time to test
[08:02] <Laney> hey
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:06] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[08:07] <Laney> 👊 didrocks oSoMoN
[08:08] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:11] <Laney> 👏 duflu
[08:12] <duflu> 🙃
[08:33] <Laney> sitting outside to work always seems like a great idea
[08:33] <Laney> stupid sun
[11:21] <doko> Laney, didrocks, kenvandine, seb128: Currently at GitHub Satellite in Berlin, and met Jason Warner. Forwarding greetings from him
[11:22] <Laney> doko: 😍
[11:22] <Laney> hello back!
[12:11] <seb128> bah, I wonder how users upgrade their system
[12:12] <seb128> we got a bunch of error report on the new software-properties that landed some days ago in bionic-updates
[12:13] <seb128> the snapd-glib depends is not properly versioned, but those users are using the newest software-properties but still have an outdated snapd-glib version, I wonder what's going on and how they do their partial updates :/
[12:13] <seb128> or maybe they are users installing a !Ubuntu image, not having software-properties and installing that one without doing upgrades?
[12:14] <jibel> seb128, do you have a link to such error?
[12:14] <Laney> phasing?
[12:15] <Laney> no https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[12:15] <seb128> snapd-glib is not listed
[12:15] <seb128> right
[12:15] <seb128> jibel, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/063a6452979ec2e97686c6136f1447b4e5442f42 is the bucket
[12:16] <seb128> well, I will fix the depends
[12:16] <seb128> still the "social" side is interesting, I wonder how our users interact with their systems
[12:18] <seb128> the reports have for most a "UnreportableReason" with a stack of non updated packages, so they don't do updates
[12:18] <seb128> but then why did they get the new software-properties? it's not a security update...
[12:19] <seb128> (also some did install from ubuntu/bionic so not the "software-properties was missing and they went to install it to have add-ppa or something")
[12:28] <didrocks> doko: oh nice! Say hi to him from us :)
[12:30] <jibel> it'd be interesting to collect apt sources
[12:31] <jibel> some are running bionic with a libsnapd-glib from xenial
[12:31] <jibel> maybe they installed 3rd party packages that is holding it back
[12:32] <seb128> yeah, still weird :/
[12:33] <jibel> others don't even have security updates installed
[12:34] <jibel> without the packages state it's hard to tell what's going on for these users
[12:35] <seb128> indeed...
[12:36] <jibel> errors.u.c is so slow that it is barely usable
[12:39] <jibel> it really looks like the package database is incoherent and must be fixed manually
[12:39] <didrocks> I wonder if some people have issues on dist-upgrade, then, stuck in the middle, but can still reboot
[12:39] <didrocks> then, they have an incoherent database and don't know how to fix it
[16:34] <Trevinho> morning pple