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xnox#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:08
meetingologyMeeting started Thu May 23 15:08:16 2019 UTC.  The chair is xnox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:08
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xnox#topic Lightning rounds15:08
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xnoxecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:08
xnoxmwhudson bdmurray waveform vorlon tdaitx doko xnox rbalint sil2100 cyphermox infinity juliank15:08
xnoxweekly ping of mwhudson =)15:08
xnoxbdmurray:  you are up15:08
bdmurrayuploaded apport to eoan, enabled crash reporting15:08
bdmurray - Decrease zlib compression level from 9 to 6 (LP: #1537635)15:08
bdmurray - move python3-launchpadlib from a Suggests to a Depends (LP: #1824002)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1537635 in apport (Ubuntu Eoan) "Reduce zlib compression level for massive performance increase" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153763515:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824002 in apport (Ubuntu Eoan) "python3-launchpadlib needs promotion from suggests" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182400215:08
bdmurraysynchronized upstream apport branch and Ubuntu one15:08
bdmurraytested new version of apport in the staging Error Tracker15:08
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding update apport in production Error Tracker15:08
bdmurrayupdated apport branch used by the Launchpad retracers15:09
bdmurrayresolved unicode Traceback with apport in production, got fix deployed15:09
bdmurraycreate an apport-test-crash with unicode in it15:09
bdmurrayverified fix for u-r-u dependency bug LP: #182486615:09
bdmurrayuploaded apport symptoms fixing (LP: #1789516)15:09
bdmurrayinvestigation / testing of LP: #182339815:09
bdmurraysent email to ubuntu-devel regarding mlocate's usefulness15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824866 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "python3-distupgrade missing a dep on python3-distro-info" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182486615:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1789516 in apport-symptoms (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug crashes when filing bug for usb storage when udisks2 is not installed." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178951615:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1823398 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "setvtrgb causes boot delays in clouds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182339815:09
bdmurraydone15:09
xnoxwaveform_:15:09
rbalinto/15:09
gaughenxnox, he's sick15:09
xnoxah15:09
xnoxvorlon:  then15:09
vorlonroadmap sprint last week, travel swap Monday15:10
vorlona few merges, livecd-rootfs sponsorships, SRU reviews, MP reviews15:10
vorlondiscussions about the set of architectures for Ubuntu 20.0415:10
vorlonnothing else to report15:10
vorlon(done)15:10
tdaitx* uploaded eoan fix for LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #182503715:11
tdaitx  - bionic/cosmic packages are waiting review by security team15:11
tdaitx  - disco needs sru15:11
tdaitx* checked & tested new bionic jenkins slaves15:11
tdaitx* investigating LP: #181169515:11
tdaitx(done)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu) "Netbeans 10 requires openjdk-11" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182560415:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182842715:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182503715:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1811695 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable..." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181169515:11
xnoxdoko:  ? or are you out?15:11
sil2100Yes he is out15:11
xnox= Progress =15:11
xnox* forwarded busybox bug upstream, cherrypick their fix.15:11
xnox* unbreak perl openssl hangs in eoan (everything migrated)15:11
xnox* prepare perl openssl hang fix for bionic15:11
xnox* upload finalrd backport to bionic15:11
xnox* unbreak mdadm init.d scripts causing failure to install15:11
xnox* review nova SRUs, fixup test cases in eoan15:11
xnox* upload d-i to get kernel to migrate in eoan15:11
xnox* fixup multipath-tools failing to install encrypted devices in d-i15:12
xnox* demote python2.7 to universe, and fixup a few python2 packages that15:12
xnox  try to sneak back in via -doc15:12
xnox* upload initramfs-tools such that it is able to auto-bring up ip=15:12
xnox  qeth interfaces on s390x.15:12
xnox* s390-tools new upstream release15:12
xnox* split ubiquity panel into a subpackage15:12
xnox* in progress unbreaking ucode updates in Ubuntu Core images15:12
xnox= Blocked on =15:12
xnoxSRU bionic15:12
xnox* libio-socket-ssl-perl (3 months now)15:12
xnox* libnet-ssleay-perl (1m 18 days now)15:12
xnox* ruby2.5 SRU bionic Unapproved (1 month now)15:12
xnox* libww-perl  (2 days)15:12
xnox* finalrd SRU bionic NEW (0 days)15:12
xnoxvorlon: should all of openssl srus be yanked out, to let python3.7 point15:12
xnoxreleases through?15:12
xnoxSeed changes15:12
xnox* ubiquity panel split LP: #183020115:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1830201 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-frontend-gtk and ubiquity-frontend-gtk-panel split" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183020115:12
xnox(done)15:12
xnoxrbalint:15:12
rbalint* prepared wireshark security updates for stable releases15:12
rbalint* updated gce-compute-image-packages including preparing SRUs15:12
rbalint* (highlight) updated Ubuntu on Windows apps to 20190521 daily build with added WSL utilities15:12
rbalint* gardened WSL-related bugs15:12
rbalint* prepared fix for LP: #1823070, on review15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1823070 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrades should tell the user (via motd) when security updates are held back" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182307015:12
rbalint* looking at https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/12616 , a regression coming with the fix for LP: #180399315:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1803993 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Password appears on the VT1 screen" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180399315:12
rbalint* meetings and discussions15:12
rbalint(done)15:13
xnoxsil2100:15:13
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:13
sil2100- Lots of kernel SRU reviews15:13
sil2100- Short DMB meeting15:13
sil2100- ubuntu-image:15:13
sil2100  * Verifying the 1.7 SRU for x/bb/dd/cc15:13
sil2100  * Verifying and releasing the ubuntu-image stable snap15:13
sil2100  * Prepared changes to livecd-rootfs for handling /boot/grub updates for classic images15:13
sil2100- Reviewed and released Dave's flash-kernel merge15:13
sil2100- Released new core18 into stable, investigated if the auto-build infrastructure still works15:13
sil2100- Getting a final review of the britney SRU ADT regression commenting15:13
sil2100  * Merged, but still needs a few fixes. Buggy as hell!15:13
sil2100- Generating .publish_info files for stable core images on cdimage15:13
vorlonxnox: I know of no reason to be concerned about the timing of the python3.7 point release SRUs15:13
sil2100- Fixing cdimage .publish_info generation to include a newline at the end15:13
sil2100- Debugging issues with kernel-sru-review not auto-accepting uefi binaries during review15:13
sil2100  * Figured out the reason was my system clock being out-of-sync, geh15:13
sil2100  * Still, as part of the debugging, rewrote the auto-approval logic not to needlessly wait 10 seconds15:13
sil2100(done)15:13
xnoxvorlon:  ok. it's just upstreams are pestering doko.15:14
xnoxcyphermox:  ? (out right?)15:14
xnoxjuliank:15:15
juliank * (half-day out on Friday)15:15
juliank * Organized DebConf19 invoicing15:15
juliank * PackageKit hacking for socket-activated DebConf helper15:15
juliank * Preparing for apt 1.8.2 and friends, merging the patch for TLS session renegotiation; figuring out whether to merge my unlock order change or not.15:15
juliank * less magic ESM (https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/ubuntu-advantage-client/issues/520)15:15
juliank * lvm2/eoan upload to fix path to systemd-run in udev rule (LP: #1830169); other releases coming later15:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1830169 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "lvm udev rule fails to call systemd-run" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183016915:15
juliank * (next week EOW on Tuesday)15:15
juliank(done)15:15
* juliank does have more bug numbers but forgot to add them to the items :/15:16
xnoxyeah15:16
* xnox is out Friday - Monday (swap day + bank holiday, warsaw volleyball tournament)15:16
vorlonthe US is also out Monday15:17
* rbalint is out from next Tuesday15:17
xnox#topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)15:18
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xnox#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:18
bdmurraySo juliank, cyphermox and I have been reviewing other rls tagged bugs and tagged some with ee for discussion15:18
bdmurraybug 80725915:18
ubottubug 807259 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "MetaRelease.download() Issue after Captive Portal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80725915:19
bdmurrayThis has been around for quite a while and seems worth fixing.15:20
cyphermoxI'm around; sorry. I was suprised by my parents visiting at an inopportune time15:21
juliankbdmurray: Should be fixed since the move to https?15:21
bdmurrayI hope they brought food15:21
bdmurrayjuliank: so you think it is worth testing again?15:22
xnoxjuliank:  should it like query gnome if there is or isn't network connectivity from the checker?15:22
juliankbdmurray: yeah15:22
juliankxnox: hmm, meh, it would just show you nothing if the cert is wrtong15:23
xnoxright15:23
bdmurrayanyway the point is should we card it?15:23
vorlonso, this looks manageable this cycle, +1 for putting it on the list15:24
bdmurrayokay, targetting to EE15:24
bdmurraybug 1218702 - cyphermox can you speak this one?15:24
ubottubug 1218702 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity resizes partition even when not asked to." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121870215:24
cyphermoxan old ubiquity bug15:25
cyphermoxbasically, moving from MiB to MB or the other way around confuses partman15:25
cyphermoxpossibly also cylinder alignment?15:25
cyphermoxI think it's worth at least checking carefully that those ^ are handled correctly15:25
vorlonwhat is the impact of this bug?  they're formatting the partition, so what does it matter if it's also resized in the process15:26
cyphermoxit's not quite the same size as people expect it to be15:26
vorlonunless I'm missing something I would decline this one15:26
cyphermox(but also, it might resize partitions they aren't changing, IIUC)15:26
vorlonok, but "I lost 8M"15:27
vorlonthat's not a real issue on modern disks15:27
xnoxit's like 3 floppies!15:27
vorlonI lose that much disk in my couch cushions when I sit down15:27
cyphermoxwho cares about 8MiB lost in the grand scheme of things; you probably wouln't notice.15:27
cyphermoxbut if something decides to resize an existing partition that you weren't otherwise touching, that's potentially a much, much slower install15:27
vorlonyes, but that's not reported in the ug15:28
vorlonbug15:28
cyphermoxhow much do we need to focus on this if we're to have a new installer for desktop?15:28
vorlonzero15:28
vorlondecline15:28
cyphermoxack.15:28
cyphermoxit's certainly not a new bug in any case15:28
bdmurraybug 150344115:28
ubottubug 1503441 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "4GB root isn't enough to install Ubuntu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150344115:28
cyphermoxsimilar thing, in a way. we should check that the minimal space calculations are still correct in ubiquity, and the partman-auto recipes are good.15:29
cyphermoxxnox: I think swap space shouldn't be the issue anymore?15:30
vorlonthe bug as described definitely doesn't exist today, it's been fixed in the past 4 years15:30
cyphermoxok15:30
vorlonso I would close it fixed15:30
xnoxcyphermox:  vorlon: marked it as fixed.15:30
cyphermoxlet's kill that then15:30
cyphermoxta15:31
vorlonLP: #1680245, I don't think this needs to be here15:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1680245 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "subiquity does not take in account existing partition" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168024515:32
vorlonthat work is tracked elsewise15:32
bdmurrayWe wanted to follow up with mwh about the status of it15:32
vorlonthe deb in the Ubuntu archive is not how subiquity is delivered, so I don't think the release tracking bugs dtrt15:32
bdmurrayah, okay that's reasonable15:33
cyphermoxthere's still the project bug anyway, we can just drop the tag15:33
cyphermox(done)15:33
vorlonwe didn't discuss LP: #1494851 ?15:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1494851 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "initramfs cryptroot hook script doesn't install cryptsetup if keyfile but no keyscript" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149485115:34
cyphermoxdon't we have a card about this?15:34
cyphermoxassigned to beta squad I think15:34
xnoxhmmmm15:34
bdmurraycyphermox: its not tagged with the card one15:34
xnoxso, it's now split into separate packages......15:34
cyphermoxor maybe not15:35
vorlonaccording to the comment from juliank the code doesn't exist post-cosmic, so should perhaps be closed15:35
bdmurraybut what about Bionic?15:35
xnoxyeah that15:35
juliankbionic and xenial should prob be fixed15:35
xnoxcause i had the autodetection in cosmic-15:35
xnoxto either include cryptsetup or not15:35
xnoxand now, it's just a separate package.15:35
xnox(which i don't know if we are seeding right)15:36
vorlonbdmurray: bionic> orthogonal to the rls-ee-incoming list? :)15:36
xnoxbut i don't care about seeds anymore15:36
cyphermoxvorlon: but bionic-tracking though15:36
cyphermoxseb's request was that we see SRUs in the -tracking lists15:36
cyphermoxas I understood it anyway15:36
bdmurraysure but we are looking at the bug now and it was rediscovered when looking at rls-x-incoming15:37
xnoxi'll try to look into it15:39
xnoxa few people use that bit of cryptsetup code, from prior work15:39
xnoxbdmurray:  are we done?15:40
xnoxshall we move onto proposed-migration report?15:41
bdmurrayxnox: lets look at bug 1829401 since its undecided15:41
cyphermoxbdmurray: yeah, what I'm saying is we're reviewing -incomings we couldn't just done on our own; and checking if we pull them in to $release-tracking15:41
ubottubug 1829401 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk:TypeError:on_pktask_finish:on_pktask_finish:new_init:__init__:new_init:__init__:new_init" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182940115:41
juliankI decided things15:41
juliankbut not early enough for the meeting15:42
juliank:(15:42
juliankNow bug 1829401 has a new title15:44
ubottubug 1829401 in packagekit (Ubuntu Eoan) "gi.repository.GLib.GError: pk-client-error-quark: could not do untrusted question as no klass support" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182940115:44
xnoxbdmurray:  next?15:45
bdmurrayxnox: I think that's good for today.15:46
vorlonproposed-migration, then?15:49
xnox#topic Team proposed-migration report15:49
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xnox#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:49
xnoxso next steps for systemd15:49
gaughenxnox, do you need any help?15:50
xnoxis revert balint's patch; merge autopkgtest improvement patches15:50
vorlondid something happen to make systemd worse on arm64?15:50
xnoxpossibly merge v24215:50
vorlonwhat's "balint's patch" in this context?15:50
xnoxvorlon:  i don't know things about arm64 being worse. i thought arm64 got worse across the board in adt, ratehr than just systemd?15:50
xnoxvorlon:  balint's patch is the VT1 keyboard echo bugfix15:50
vorlonxnox: arm64 was failing to boot, and we handled that by stopping the runners in bos0215:50
xnoxwhich has regressions15:50
vorlonsince bos02 was unaffected15:51
vorlonah that patch ok15:51
vorlonsorry, bos01 was unaffected15:51
xnoxah i see15:51
vorlonso any current test failures are unrelated15:51
rbalintvorlon, yes, they are unrelated15:52
rbalintvorlon, the vt1 fix caused regressions in desktop edge cases15:52
* vorlon nods15:52
vorlonthe "I stopped gdm for some reason"15:52
vorloncase15:52
* juliank uploaded broken packagekit, could be removed from proposed15:52
vorlonjuliank: you want us to delete 1.1.12-5ubuntu1 from -proposed?  or are you going to do a follow-up upload?15:55
juliankI'll eventually do one, but it might confuse people in the meantime15:55
vorlon(just removing it has the downside that when someone tries to upload again, they reuse the version number that's already burnt)15:55
vorlonjuliank: so I would leave it there for right now15:56
juliankok15:56
vorlonand if we have this conversation again in a week, I'll reconsider :)15:56
vorlonI guess I'll retry the cloud-utils/amd64 autopkgtest again15:57
vorlonwhich is possibly racy, or a regression wrt loop devices15:59
vorlonand network-manager/ppc64el is going nowhere fast16:00
vorloncyphermox: test_no_ap seems to have become less reliable there, any thoughts?16:01
xnox#topic AOB ?16:01
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cyphermoxI was looking at that16:01
xnoxno?16:01
vorloncyphermox: ok thanks16:01
cyphermoxI'd need to look at the code, it's been a while16:01
xnoxaob going once16:01
xnoxaob going twice16:01
vorloncyphermox: should we give you a card for that work?16:01
xnoxaob going thrice16:01
cyphermoxvorlon: please.16:01
xnox#endmeeting16:01
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu May 23 16:01:59 2019 UTC.16:02
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-05-23-15.08.moin.txt16:02
gaughenthank you xnox!16:02
vorlonthanks, all!16:03
vorloncyphermox: I just noticed we already had a hint for the previous network-manager/ppc64el for the same flakiness, so I'll bump the hint in the meantime16:04
cyphermoxvorlon: aye. tbh I thought ppc64el had wifi majorly busted in autopkgtests, but all the other wifi tests pass16:05

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