=== mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [15:00] o/ [15:06] * xnox 0/ [15:07] * vorlon waves [15:08] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:08] Meeting started Thu May 23 15:08:16 2019 UTC. The chair is xnox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:08] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: [15:08] #topic Lightning rounds === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Lightning rounds [15:08] echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) [15:08] mwhudson bdmurray waveform vorlon tdaitx doko xnox rbalint sil2100 cyphermox infinity juliank [15:08] weekly ping of mwhudson =) [15:08] bdmurray: you are up [15:08] uploaded apport to eoan, enabled crash reporting [15:08] - Decrease zlib compression level from 9 to 6 (LP: #1537635) [15:08] - move python3-launchpadlib from a Suggests to a Depends (LP: #1824002) [15:08] Launchpad bug 1537635 in apport (Ubuntu Eoan) "Reduce zlib compression level for massive performance increase" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537635 [15:08] Launchpad bug 1824002 in apport (Ubuntu Eoan) "python3-launchpadlib needs promotion from suggests" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824002 [15:08] synchronized upstream apport branch and Ubuntu one [15:08] tested new version of apport in the staging Error Tracker [15:08] submitted RT regarding update apport in production Error Tracker [15:09] updated apport branch used by the Launchpad retracers [15:09] resolved unicode Traceback with apport in production, got fix deployed [15:09] create an apport-test-crash with unicode in it [15:09] verified fix for u-r-u dependency bug LP: #1824866 [15:09] uploaded apport symptoms fixing (LP: #1789516) [15:09] investigation / testing of LP: #1823398 [15:09] sent email to ubuntu-devel regarding mlocate's usefulness [15:09] Launchpad bug 1824866 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "python3-distupgrade missing a dep on python3-distro-info" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824866 [15:09] Launchpad bug 1789516 in apport-symptoms (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug crashes when filing bug for usb storage when udisks2 is not installed." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1789516 [15:09] Launchpad bug 1823398 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "setvtrgb causes boot delays in clouds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823398 [15:09] done [15:09] waveform_: [15:09] o/ [15:09] xnox, he's sick [15:09] ah [15:09] vorlon: then [15:10] roadmap sprint last week, travel swap Monday [15:10] a few merges, livecd-rootfs sponsorships, SRU reviews, MP reviews [15:10] discussions about the set of architectures for Ubuntu 20.04 [15:10] nothing else to report [15:10] (done) [15:11] * uploaded eoan fix for LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #1825037 [15:11] - bionic/cosmic packages are waiting review by security team [15:11] - disco needs sru [15:11] * checked & tested new bionic jenkins slaves [15:11] * investigating LP: #1811695 [15:11] (done) [15:11] Launchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu) "Netbeans 10 requires openjdk-11" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825604 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828427 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825037 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1811695 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable..." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811695 [15:11] doko: ? or are you out? [15:11] Yes he is out [15:11] = Progress = [15:11] * forwarded busybox bug upstream, cherrypick their fix. [15:11] * unbreak perl openssl hangs in eoan (everything migrated) [15:11] * prepare perl openssl hang fix for bionic [15:11] * upload finalrd backport to bionic [15:11] * unbreak mdadm init.d scripts causing failure to install [15:11] * review nova SRUs, fixup test cases in eoan [15:11] * upload d-i to get kernel to migrate in eoan [15:12] * fixup multipath-tools failing to install encrypted devices in d-i [15:12] * demote python2.7 to universe, and fixup a few python2 packages that [15:12] try to sneak back in via -doc [15:12] * upload initramfs-tools such that it is able to auto-bring up ip= [15:12] qeth interfaces on s390x. [15:12] * s390-tools new upstream release [15:12] * split ubiquity panel into a subpackage [15:12] * in progress unbreaking ucode updates in Ubuntu Core images [15:12] = Blocked on = [15:12] SRU bionic [15:12] * libio-socket-ssl-perl (3 months now) [15:12] * libnet-ssleay-perl (1m 18 days now) [15:12] * ruby2.5 SRU bionic Unapproved (1 month now) [15:12] * libww-perl (2 days) [15:12] * finalrd SRU bionic NEW (0 days) [15:12] vorlon: should all of openssl srus be yanked out, to let python3.7 point [15:12] releases through? [15:12] Seed changes [15:12] * ubiquity panel split LP: #1830201 [15:12] Launchpad bug 1830201 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-frontend-gtk and ubiquity-frontend-gtk-panel split" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830201 [15:12] (done) [15:12] rbalint: [15:12] * prepared wireshark security updates for stable releases [15:12] * updated gce-compute-image-packages including preparing SRUs [15:12] * (highlight) updated Ubuntu on Windows apps to 20190521 daily build with added WSL utilities [15:12] * gardened WSL-related bugs [15:12] * prepared fix for LP: #1823070, on review [15:12] Launchpad bug 1823070 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrades should tell the user (via motd) when security updates are held back" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823070 [15:12] * looking at https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/12616 , a regression coming with the fix for LP: #1803993 [15:12] Launchpad bug 1803993 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Password appears on the VT1 screen" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803993 [15:12] * meetings and discussions [15:13] (done) [15:13] sil2100: [15:13] - SRU reviews and releases [15:13] - Lots of kernel SRU reviews [15:13] - Short DMB meeting [15:13] - ubuntu-image: [15:13] * Verifying the 1.7 SRU for x/bb/dd/cc [15:13] * Verifying and releasing the ubuntu-image stable snap [15:13] * Prepared changes to livecd-rootfs for handling /boot/grub updates for classic images [15:13] - Reviewed and released Dave's flash-kernel merge [15:13] - Released new core18 into stable, investigated if the auto-build infrastructure still works [15:13] - Getting a final review of the britney SRU ADT regression commenting [15:13] * Merged, but still needs a few fixes. Buggy as hell! [15:13] - Generating .publish_info files for stable core images on cdimage [15:13] xnox: I know of no reason to be concerned about the timing of the python3.7 point release SRUs [15:13] - Fixing cdimage .publish_info generation to include a newline at the end [15:13] - Debugging issues with kernel-sru-review not auto-accepting uefi binaries during review [15:13] * Figured out the reason was my system clock being out-of-sync, geh [15:13] * Still, as part of the debugging, rewrote the auto-approval logic not to needlessly wait 10 seconds [15:13] (done) [15:14] vorlon: ok. it's just upstreams are pestering doko. [15:14] cyphermox: ? (out right?) [15:15] juliank: [15:15] * (half-day out on Friday) [15:15] * Organized DebConf19 invoicing [15:15] * PackageKit hacking for socket-activated DebConf helper [15:15] * Preparing for apt 1.8.2 and friends, merging the patch for TLS session renegotiation; figuring out whether to merge my unlock order change or not. [15:15] * less magic ESM (https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/ubuntu-advantage-client/issues/520) [15:15] * lvm2/eoan upload to fix path to systemd-run in udev rule (LP: #1830169); other releases coming later [15:15] Launchpad bug 1830169 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "lvm udev rule fails to call systemd-run" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830169 [15:15] * (next week EOW on Tuesday) [15:15] (done) [15:16] * juliank does have more bug numbers but forgot to add them to the items :/ [15:16] yeah [15:16] * xnox is out Friday - Monday (swap day + bank holiday, warsaw volleyball tournament) [15:17] the US is also out Monday [15:17] * rbalint is out from next Tuesday [15:18] #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release incoming bugs (eoan) [15:18] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:18] So juliank, cyphermox and I have been reviewing other rls tagged bugs and tagged some with ee for discussion [15:18] bug 807259 [15:19] bug 807259 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "MetaRelease.download() Issue after Captive Portal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807259 [15:20] This has been around for quite a while and seems worth fixing. [15:21] I'm around; sorry. I was suprised by my parents visiting at an inopportune time [15:21] bdmurray: Should be fixed since the move to https? [15:21] I hope they brought food [15:22] juliank: so you think it is worth testing again? [15:22] juliank: should it like query gnome if there is or isn't network connectivity from the checker? [15:22] bdmurray: yeah [15:23] xnox: hmm, meh, it would just show you nothing if the cert is wrtong [15:23] right [15:23] anyway the point is should we card it? [15:24] so, this looks manageable this cycle, +1 for putting it on the list [15:24] okay, targetting to EE [15:24] bug 1218702 - cyphermox can you speak this one? [15:24] bug 1218702 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity resizes partition even when not asked to." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218702 [15:25] an old ubiquity bug [15:25] basically, moving from MiB to MB or the other way around confuses partman [15:25] possibly also cylinder alignment? [15:25] I think it's worth at least checking carefully that those ^ are handled correctly [15:26] what is the impact of this bug? they're formatting the partition, so what does it matter if it's also resized in the process [15:26] it's not quite the same size as people expect it to be [15:26] unless I'm missing something I would decline this one [15:26] (but also, it might resize partitions they aren't changing, IIUC) [15:27] ok, but "I lost 8M" [15:27] that's not a real issue on modern disks [15:27] it's like 3 floppies! [15:27] I lose that much disk in my couch cushions when I sit down [15:27] who cares about 8MiB lost in the grand scheme of things; you probably wouln't notice. [15:27] but if something decides to resize an existing partition that you weren't otherwise touching, that's potentially a much, much slower install [15:28] yes, but that's not reported in the ug [15:28] bug [15:28] how much do we need to focus on this if we're to have a new installer for desktop? [15:28] zero [15:28] decline [15:28] ack. [15:28] it's certainly not a new bug in any case [15:28] bug 1503441 [15:28] bug 1503441 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "4GB root isn't enough to install Ubuntu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503441 [15:29] similar thing, in a way. we should check that the minimal space calculations are still correct in ubiquity, and the partman-auto recipes are good. [15:30] xnox: I think swap space shouldn't be the issue anymore? [15:30] the bug as described definitely doesn't exist today, it's been fixed in the past 4 years [15:30] ok [15:30] so I would close it fixed [15:30] cyphermox: vorlon: marked it as fixed. [15:30] let's kill that then [15:31] ta [15:32] LP: #1680245, I don't think this needs to be here [15:32] Launchpad bug 1680245 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "subiquity does not take in account existing partition" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680245 [15:32] that work is tracked elsewise [15:32] We wanted to follow up with mwh about the status of it [15:32] the deb in the Ubuntu archive is not how subiquity is delivered, so I don't think the release tracking bugs dtrt [15:33] ah, okay that's reasonable [15:33] there's still the project bug anyway, we can just drop the tag [15:33] (done) [15:34] we didn't discuss LP: #1494851 ? [15:34] Launchpad bug 1494851 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "initramfs cryptroot hook script doesn't install cryptsetup if keyfile but no keyscript" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494851 [15:34] don't we have a card about this? [15:34] assigned to beta squad I think [15:34] hmmmm [15:34] cyphermox: its not tagged with the card one [15:34] so, it's now split into separate packages...... [15:35] or maybe not [15:35] according to the comment from juliank the code doesn't exist post-cosmic, so should perhaps be closed [15:35] but what about Bionic? [15:35] yeah that [15:35] bionic and xenial should prob be fixed [15:35] cause i had the autodetection in cosmic- [15:35] to either include cryptsetup or not [15:35] and now, it's just a separate package. [15:36] (which i don't know if we are seeding right) [15:36] bdmurray: bionic> orthogonal to the rls-ee-incoming list? :) [15:36] but i don't care about seeds anymore [15:36] vorlon: but bionic-tracking though [15:36] seb's request was that we see SRUs in the -tracking lists [15:36] as I understood it anyway [15:37] sure but we are looking at the bug now and it was rediscovered when looking at rls-x-incoming [15:39] i'll try to look into it [15:39] a few people use that bit of cryptsetup code, from prior work [15:40] bdmurray: are we done? [15:41] shall we move onto proposed-migration report? [15:41] xnox: lets look at bug 1829401 since its undecided [15:41] bdmurray: yeah, what I'm saying is we're reviewing -incomings we couldn't just done on our own; and checking if we pull them in to $release-tracking [15:41] bug 1829401 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk:TypeError:on_pktask_finish:on_pktask_finish:new_init:__init__:new_init:__init__:new_init" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829401 [15:41] I decided things [15:42] but not early enough for the meeting [15:42] :( [15:44] Now bug 1829401 has a new title [15:44] bug 1829401 in packagekit (Ubuntu Eoan) "gi.repository.GLib.GError: pk-client-error-quark: could not do untrusted question as no klass support" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829401 [15:45] bdmurray: next? [15:46] xnox: I think that's good for today. [15:49] proposed-migration, then? [15:49] #topic Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Team proposed-migration report [15:49] #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:49] so next steps for systemd [15:50] xnox, do you need any help? [15:50] is revert balint's patch; merge autopkgtest improvement patches [15:50] did something happen to make systemd worse on arm64? [15:50] possibly merge v242 [15:50] what's "balint's patch" in this context? [15:50] vorlon: i don't know things about arm64 being worse. i thought arm64 got worse across the board in adt, ratehr than just systemd? [15:50] vorlon: balint's patch is the VT1 keyboard echo bugfix [15:50] xnox: arm64 was failing to boot, and we handled that by stopping the runners in bos02 [15:50] which has regressions [15:51] since bos02 was unaffected [15:51] ah that patch ok [15:51] sorry, bos01 was unaffected [15:51] ah i see [15:51] so any current test failures are unrelated [15:52] vorlon, yes, they are unrelated [15:52] vorlon, the vt1 fix caused regressions in desktop edge cases [15:52] * vorlon nods [15:52] the "I stopped gdm for some reason" [15:52] case [15:52] * juliank uploaded broken packagekit, could be removed from proposed [15:55] juliank: you want us to delete 1.1.12-5ubuntu1 from -proposed? or are you going to do a follow-up upload? [15:55] I'll eventually do one, but it might confuse people in the meantime [15:55] (just removing it has the downside that when someone tries to upload again, they reuse the version number that's already burnt) [15:56] juliank: so I would leave it there for right now [15:56] ok [15:56] and if we have this conversation again in a week, I'll reconsider :) [15:57] I guess I'll retry the cloud-utils/amd64 autopkgtest again [15:59] which is possibly racy, or a regression wrt loop devices [16:00] and network-manager/ppc64el is going nowhere fast [16:01] cyphermox: test_no_ap seems to have become less reliable there, any thoughts? [16:01] #topic AOB ? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: AOB ? [16:01] I was looking at that [16:01] no? [16:01] cyphermox: ok thanks [16:01] I'd need to look at the code, it's been a while [16:01] aob going once [16:01] aob going twice [16:01] cyphermox: should we give you a card for that work? [16:01] aob going thrice [16:01] vorlon: please. [16:01] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [16:02] Meeting ended Thu May 23 16:01:59 2019 UTC. [16:02] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-05-23-15.08.moin.txt [16:02] thank you xnox! [16:03] thanks, all! [16:04] cyphermox: I just noticed we already had a hint for the previous network-manager/ppc64el for the same flakiness, so I'll bump the hint in the meantime [16:05] vorlon: aye. tbh I thought ppc64el had wifi majorly busted in autopkgtests, but all the other wifi tests pass