[00:00] <qwebirc98734> hi there,
[00:01] <Major_Wedgie> Is there a Desktop that allows sending of SMS?
[00:05] <uio> Major_Wedgie, There might be software for that that doesn't depend on a desktop...
[00:19] <icyfart> 0~hello
[00:19] <icyfart> Vic2: hey there!
[00:20] <icyfart> Vic2: This is literally my first IRC experience, lol just figuirng this stuff out
[00:22] <Gerowen> Greetings icyfart!  The #ubuntu channel is a support channel.  If you'd like to play around with your IRC and generally shoot the breeze, hop over to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:22] <icyfart> Gerowen: Got it, sorry haha. I'll head over there
[00:28] <leftyfb> Major_Wedgie: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/indicator-kde-connect-send-sms-autocomplete
[00:28] <leftyfb> Major_Wedgie: first result on google for "ubuntu sms"
[00:47] <Momentum> does dpkg -i resolves dependencies?
[00:47] <jcotton> no
[00:47] <jcotton> but you can do apt install -f afterwards to fix that
[00:47] <Momentum> oh resolving means installing deps?
[00:48] <jcotton> ye
[00:48] <jcotton> dpkg will tell you deps are missing
[00:48] <Momentum> i get it, but it lists them
[00:48] <Momentum> yeah okay
[00:48] <jcotton> apt install -f will install them and then finish the config of the package you were installing earlier
[00:49] <Momentum> fair enough, thanks
[01:32] <laptop> hi
[01:32] <laptop> I need help
[01:32] <laptop> why does kernel 5.1 or 5.2 not support nvidia
[01:32] <laptop> what is the problem?
[01:33] <laptop> I am using legacy driver 3.04
[01:33] <dax> laptop: please don't crosspost between #debian and #ubuntu.
[01:36] <hggdh> lapion: anyways, Ubuntu has not yet deployed 5.1 or 5.2
[01:36] <hggdh> lapion: ^disregard, wrong tab completion
[01:38] <Major_Wedgie> Is it wrong to want Apple dead?
[01:39] <maxinux> yes they help fund some of the software you love
[01:39] <Major_Wedgie> Like cups?
[01:39] <maxinux> yup
[01:40] <dax> printers are evil anyway, Apple funding them is entirely on-brand (also, this should probably be in #ubuntu-offtopic instead)
[02:08] <demshadowwolf> hi
[02:09] <demshadowwolf> so I wanna learn Pentesting, how many 9mm shots to the head should I take?
[02:10] <SailorR> can someone please help me fix my sound?
[02:11] <SailorR> aplay -l gives no sound card found ubuntu is not recognizing the drivers that windows recognizes
[02:12] <SailorR> (would really appreciate any help)
[02:12] <SailorR> since is affecting my productivity
[02:17] <demshadowwolf> no results for drivers on google?
[02:22] <qwebirc52746> Hi everyone
[02:23] <demshadowwolf> hi
[02:27] <sappheiros> Is it better to update packages via command line rather than muon?
[02:27] <leftyfb> sappheiros: I would recommend CLI over muon.
[02:27] <sappheiros> is it merely to save time?
[02:29] <leftyfb> sappheiros: I'm not familiar with muon, but I know it's not developed by Canonical/Ubuntu. It's a KDE thing. apt/apt-get will work every time and not be missing any packages from the official repos
[02:29] <sappheiros> oh! ...
[02:29] <Bashing-om> sappheiros: I personaly when I update want to see what is happening where and to what :)
[02:29] <leftyfb> that too
[02:29] <sappheiros> Bashing-om: muon does this but CLI doesn't?
[02:29] <sappheiros> oh, you mean in more detail
[02:29] <sappheiros> ?
[02:30] <sappheiros> i.e. CLI gives every step whereas muon only gives passing summaries?
[02:30] <leftyfb> sappheiros: muon will not show you as much, if any detail of what it is doing or issues it runs into. At least not as much as apt/apt-get
[02:30] <Bashing-om> sappheiros: Yup .. From terminal one see even the affected files.
[02:34] <sappheiros> to use CLI then, would I (looking at `man apt`) simply run the following sequentially? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPpgg73PCr/
[02:36] <OerHeks> .. apt full-upgrade
[02:41] <Bashing-om> sappheiros: I would suggest not running 'autoremove' until you know the system is stable on all. I do ` sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' on a regular basis ( as I also do not use unattended-upgrades package).
[02:41] <jdr> What is muon?
[02:41] <sarnold> jdr: it looks like a kde frontend to apt
[02:41] <jdr> ahhh. I'll pass.
[02:41] <jdr> apt update and apt upgrade just work.
[02:55] <sappheiros> it seemed safer to click 'full-upgrade' and 'apply-changes' because i seemed more liable to make a mistake with sudo CLI
[02:55] <sappheiros> OerHeks: ?
[02:56] <sappheiros> after running the first `sudo` command don't root privileges last 5 min?
[02:56] <sappheiros> or do i need `sudo` each command?
[02:56] <sappheiros> or is it root for the rest of that terminal session?
[02:59] <sappheiros> Bashing-om: how do you determine the system is stable and apt autoremove is okay to execute?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> sappheiros: If it works after the installs .. good to go :)
[03:12] <sappheiros> how do you revert if it don't?
[03:13] <TJ-> Any ideas why add-apt-repository (on 18.04 amd64) might hang without doing anything? Network connectivity other than this appears good.
[03:15] <sappheiros> TJ-: perhaps check that you're selecting the closest server?
[03:16] <TJ-> sappheiros: not that; it's a PPA
[03:17]  * sappheiros looks at his papers and realizes they're written in crayon
[03:17] <sappheiros> never mind, i know nothing `-`
[03:18] <sappheiros> Bashing-om: when to sudo apt full-upgrade? and does every command need 'sudo'?
[03:18] <sappheiros> is 'sudo' just to ensure system-wide updating rather than user-account-only?
[03:24] <TJ-> very strange, wget can grab the files manually. apt-add-repository hangs on the initial sock.connect() call though
[03:27] <Bashing-om> sappheiros: Well - full-upgrade is neeed "sometimes" As 'upgrade' will not remove any package - sometines that is needed and full-up-grade will do so ( say a new kerenl install ) other times if you feel lucky, for the situation of "held packages" while the repo is aeaiting to resolve dependencies. // sudo is required to execute any system level command.
[03:29] <sappheiros> where in man or --help does apt say it requires sudo?
[03:29] <sappheiros> or will it prompt me for password if needed?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> TJ-: TCP issue ? ' mtr -i2 -c10 -r -T Mdustant-end> ' tell ya anything ?
 no less :(
[03:37] <TJ-> Bashing-om: no, as I said, wget works fine to fetch the files manually, seems like something in the python3.6 handling of the sock.connect()
[03:39] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :( ^ now over my head with what python is doing.
[03:50] <TJ-> got another funny one now, needing to install a .deb package. The package apparently has a pre-inst script which errors, so dpkg --install/--unpack will not extract the archive
[03:55] <TJ-> ha! solved that, it was checking for a TCP port in use, and I was able to set an env-var the preinst script checks for an alternate port number which wasn't in use
[03:56] <SailorR> TJ- can you help me with my sound prob
[03:56] <Bashing-om> TJ-: When you are good -  YOU are good :P
[03:57] <SailorR> I tried to reinstall base-alsa , linux-audio, pulse audio etc
[03:57] <SailorR> no drivers recognized still
[04:00] <TJ-> SailorR: what 'drivers' are you talking about?
[04:02] <TJ-> SailorR: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk -d ::0403 ; aplay -l ; aplay -L )"
[04:13] <SailorR> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/crQW5xYDvG/
[04:22] <TJ-> SailorR: which Ubuntu release and kernel version are you using?
[05:09] <virmaha> not sure if this is right channel, but when I do pkg-config --cflags --libs pangocairo, I get Package 'libpng' has no Name: field
[05:18] <virmaha> how do I check if all files in a directory have a particular text?
[05:35] <boblamont> I'm copying a bunch of things from backup media into a directory on a hard drive, some of the directories/files have the same name. Is there anything I an do so I don't have to manually intervene to stick a number after the duplicate names so they'll keep copying? (using Lubuntu/PCManFM)
[05:50] <mbigras> hello world?
[05:57] <qwebirc7140> hey
[05:59] <ducasse> hi qwebirc7140 - do you have an ubuntu question you need help with?
[05:59] <qwebirc7140> I'm Installing ubuntu on my C drive. Will the Data of G and E Drive will be affected?
[06:01] <ducasse> qwebirc7140: you will only overwrite the partition you select
[06:01] <qwebirc7140> okay thanks
[06:23] <qwebirc94831> Hello fam! Anyone know where I can find a harden image of Ubuntu 18.04?
[06:24] <qwebirc94831> I know Azure/AWS and Google Cloud offering it but I want to run it on-prem
[06:31] <teb007est> Hello I was wondering if anyone could help me get my Ubuntu back up I created a partition but I did not format thr hard drive I think it did so something to my boot I am getting a grub rescue promnt I don't know how to get it back
[06:32] <teb007est> I don't have a USB Them Drive
[06:42] <teb007est> Am having a issue with my laptop I created a partition when I was in rescue mode I can't seem to get back into my system because I think it did something to it. I did a fdisk partition I was trying to create a 4 GB but it went to the main hard drive or something now am stuck in grub rescue mode
[06:47] <teb007est> Is anyone here
[06:55] <TomyWork> can i exclude packages from unattended-upgrades?
[06:55] <TomyWork> like, firefox
[06:56] <TomyWork> cause that got automatically updated in the background and i couldn't open some pages anymore
[06:57] <TomyWork> so i'd rather trigger the updates myself rather than unattended-upgrade doing it
[06:58] <teb007est> How to install Ubuntu With Android Device Without it rooted are there any possible apps out there
[06:59] <gewji_> unable to acquire the dpkg fronend lock is another process using it
[06:59] <TomyWork> teb007est, i would hope not
[06:59] <gewji_> how do i check which process might be using it?
[07:00] <TomyWork> lsof
[07:00] <TomyWork> on the package index or something
[07:00] <TomyWork> oooor
[07:01] <TomyWork> try ps aux | grep -E 'apt|dpkg'
[07:01] <teb007est> Am stuck in grub rescue mode I need to install Ubuntu back or use a non rooted phone to get my computer up & running again does anyone now of a. All
[07:02] <TomyWork> gewji_, just try again in a minute, usually it's an automated process checking for updates or something
[07:02] <teb007est> Of a way to do so
[07:03] <TomyWork> teb007est, not sure what you want. you have a rooted phone and it's not getting past grub?
[07:04] <gewji_> yeah that worked
[07:06] <teb007est> TomyWork : LOL I have a non rooted phone I need an app that could mount a virtual drive to be able to boot of this non-rooted device. It hard to say there non software for this because Android is also open source & it part of the Linux Family...
[07:12] <TomyWork> android is *mostly* open source
[07:12] <TomyWork> i.e. not
[07:13] <TomyWork> the parts that block you are most likely not
[07:14] <TomyWork> what you actually need is a live dvd/usb to boot your computer from
[07:14] <TomyWork> do you still have the usb you installed linux on your computer from?
[07:16] <teb007est> I been trying to boot off of the USB but it not booting to Linux my only option is this phone I have I don't have any way to get this to work & I don't have a other computer for this. There has to be away around this
[07:17] <TomyWork> what does booting ubuntu on your phone gain you?
[07:18] <TomyWork> i dont see how this fixes your computer
[07:20] <teb007est> TomyWork there are apps out there that can make your phone has an USB thumdrive like a normal Bootable device I need to use this phone as an USB Drive to Recover My Laptop. You might of not read my question right. Sorry for the mis understanding
[07:21] <teb007est> Is there anyone I. Tmmm
[07:21] <teb007est> Is there in the chat that can help me
[07:21] <TomyWork> ah so far from your initial request, you want an app that can make your phone act as a bootable usb?
[07:23] <TomyWork> that's another thing i hope is not possible without rooting your device
[07:28] <TomyWork> imagine you install a nefarious app and then reboot your attached computer. rootkit galore
[07:28] <TomyWork> even more so if you find a way to crash the computer via usb, which is not all that unlikely
[07:28] <teb007est> That why am asking is there a possible why there any software out there that don't have to use root permission my phone is not root-able
[07:28] <MrSteve> hi.. if I install ubuntu server, and ubuntu desktop will that work?
[07:29] <ducasse> MrSteve: you can install any desktop you want on top of ubuntu server
[07:29] <MrSteve> wait.. what?
[07:30] <MrSteve> have win 10, install 18.04 server, then last partition ubuntu 18.04..?
[07:31] <TomyWork> teb007est, I think you misread what i wrote. I said it would be a big security issue if it is possible for an app WITHOUT root permission to simulate a bootable USB to your attached computer
[07:35] <ducasse> MrSteve: just install the desktop you want on the server install you have
[07:35] <teb007est> But is it possible TomyWork
[07:35] <MrSteve> ohhh no third partition?
[07:35] <zetheroo> this problem with some of our Ubuntu 18.04 systems randomly loosing DNS resolution is still occurring. Is there anyone who can help me find out why?
[07:35] <TomyWork> as i said: hopefully not
[07:35] <ducasse> MrSteve: you don't need one, but you can
[07:35] <MrSteve> wow
[07:35] <MrSteve> so what will the install be, server or the desktop?
[07:35] <MrSteve> when done?
[07:35] <TomyWork> teb007est, let me put it another way: if you figure out it's possible, I would suggest installing no further applications or updates on your phone. and since that includes security updates, I would then advise you not to use that phone online. tl;dr: throw it in the bin
[07:37] <blackflow> MrSteve: whichever of those you boot into.
[07:37] <MrSteve> Am go read server.. find out..
[07:39] <TomyWork> MrSteve, i think ducasse might have answered a question you did not ask. but the answer is yes in both cases: yes, you can dualboot between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop and yes, you can "upgrade" an ubuntu server to a desktop by installing the appropriate packages
[08:01] <MrSteve> so, ubuntu server is really the same, but lacks xwindowing/gui??
[08:02] <MrSteve> not two things.. like different OS
[08:04] <hdon> hi all :) i've downloaded an ubuntu 18 desktop image, and it recommends that i verify the image. it links me to a PGP signature, but where am i supposed to get the public key canonical uses to sign ubuntu images?
[08:04] <ducasse> MrSteve: they're both built on the same packages, with some differences (server tools and gui stuff)
[08:04] <MrSteve> ty
[08:06] <MrSteve> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0
[08:10] <hdon> ah i see. ubuntu key server
[08:11] <hdon> but how can i verify these keys?
[08:11] <hdon> is there at least an HTTPS server in ubuntu's infrastructure with a certificate signed by a common certificate authority that will attest to these keys?
[08:12] <pius> hello everybody! I've an issue, I want to install a package relying on libapache2-mod-php5 as dependency. The only available dependency is libapache2-mod-php5.6 which I've already installed but apt-get always returns me erro. Help me Please :-(
[08:14] <hdon> i guess https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/ does :3
[08:18] <pius> someonse .. help pease :-((
[08:28] <zetheroo> very strange issue when sshing into an 18.04 server - the ssh session freezes up after about 5 seconds ... then some minutes later works again ... then freezes up again after several seconds ... any ideas?
 hello everybody! I've an issue, I want to install a package relying on libapache2-mod-php5 as dependency. The only available dependency is libapache2-mod-php5.6 which I've already installed but apt-get always returns me erro. Help me Please :-(
[08:34] <myx_> ??
 hello everybody! I've an issue, I want to install a package relying on libapache2-mod-php5 as dependency. The only available dependency is libapache2-mod-php5.6 which I've already installed but apt-get always returns me erro. Help me Please :-(
[08:37] <MrSteve> php5.0? but u have 5.6?
[08:38] <pius> yes. i've even installed it .
[08:38] <MrSteve> can php install 5? if the older is available. u would remove 5.6
[08:39] <MrSteve> most programs are back compatible
[08:39] <MrSteve> but you say the dependency is for 5.0
[08:40] <MrSteve> the php 5.6 should cover the older
[08:40] <pius> Mr Steve > I can't install php *** 5 in ubuntu 18. Only 5.6 is available via PPA. I agree that most programs are back-compatible but apt-get won't understand that. I suppose if there is a way to force apt-get to recognize 5.6 and 5 as being equivalent, the issue would be fixed ...
[08:41] <MrSteve> ok 5.6 is for ubuntu
[08:43] <MrSteve> any this help?
[08:43] <MrSteve> https://askubuntu.com/questions/524886/cannot-install-libapache2-mod-php5-because-of-unmet-dependencies
[08:44] <jsleroy> Hi. I've an issue since the update to 18.04 of my laptop. I have a keyboard connected to it and udev rule to set its layout (which is different than the laptop integrated one). Since 18.04, it looks like something is overriding the layout. Any idea how I could disable this overriding ?
[08:44] <MrSteve> i have synaptics
[08:44] <MrSteve> keyboard
[08:47] <pius> Mr Steve  > I don't understand ?
[08:48] <dogmatic69> Hi all, I've got an issue with e2label, for some reason it does not add the drive to /dev/disk/by-label.
[08:48] <dogmatic69> e2label /dev/disk shows the label but lsblk does not
[08:49] <dogmatic69> I've been adding labels to various machines and only 2/10 have had this problem
[08:50] <blackflow> pius: sounds like you have some conflict with a PPA, otherwise apt would not error out on dependencies. Can you be more specific about what you're installing and what the error is?
[08:51] <MrSteve> php-common is the problem
[08:51] <blackflow> no, a conflict with PPA is
[08:51] <MrSteve> this also might be a package problem
[08:51] <pius> I want to install Grase Hotspot. Ubuntu 18 has only PHP7 to be installed so I installed PHP5.6 via PPA
[08:52] <blackflow> pius: right, so please pastebin the command you're issuing and what apt(-get) is saying.
[08:52] <MrSteve> blackflow can pius use -f and then
[08:53] <pius> cmd > sudo apt-get install grase-www-portal
[08:53] <pius> grase-www-portal depends on php5 but it is not installable
[08:53] <pius> i've truncated other dependencies with the same issue
[08:53] <blackflow> pius: please pastebin _exactly_ what apt(-get) is saying.
[08:54] <blackflow> pius: also please pastebinthe output of `apt policy grase-www-portal`
[08:56] <blackflow> pius: also consider moving this to #ubuntu-server where it's more appropriate, to lighten the load on the main support channel.
[08:56] <blackflow> dogmatic69: refresh the kernel state with `partprobe`?
[08:57] <blackflow> dogmatic69: refreshed*
[08:57] <dogmatic69> No i've not tried that, but never had to do it on  any of the other 8 hosts. Will have a look at that quick
[08:57] <dogmatic69> got a feeling these 2 machines are a little older than the rest.
[08:59] <blackflow> dogmatic69: it shouldn't be required, but if the kernel (and udev, actually) does not refresh automatically, perhaps nudge it with partprobe
[08:59] <dogmatic69> @blackflow does not seem to do anything
[09:01] <blackflow> dogmatic69: so, you've set the label with `tune2fs -L some-label-name-here /dev/sdXY` ?  (with proper X Y)
[09:01] <dogmatic69> e2label /dev/xvdh docker-volumes is what I used.
[09:02] <dogmatic69> e2label /dev/xvdh outputs `docker-volumes`
[09:02] <blackflow> ah sorry I misread, I thought you were using tune2fs to set the label on the fs
[09:04] <dogmatic69> I did try tune2fs but the command errors. Here is what I did do. https://pastebin.com/QnbZ4J5P
[09:05] <blackflow> dogmatic69: does blkid list the PARTLABEL with that value?
[09:05] <dogmatic69> yes it does
[09:05] <blackflow> dogmatic69: and you're running lsblk as rot?
[09:05] <blackflow> *root
[09:06] <Mdlpe> hi, i made a fresh install of bionic. How to set the gamma ? I saw only icc profile on gnome
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: dconf-editor there's a gamma setting
[09:07] <dogmatic69> blackflow: can run as root or not, same deal. /dev/xvdh: LABEL="docker-volumes" UUID="****" TYPE="ext4"
[09:08] <blackflow> dogmatic69: wait, I don't get it. so it show's teh "docker-volumes" label you've set?
[09:08] <blackflow> *shows   (gah!)
[09:09] <dogmatic69> yes, exactly... its madness. but /dev/disk/by-lable does not list it
[09:10] <blackflow> dogmatic69: see the udevadm manpage, option "trigger", I think that could h elp.
[09:11] <dogmatic69> ye, was thinking a manual trigger of that might do it.. let me try quick
[09:12] <dogmatic69> this fixed it: udevadm trigger. thanks blackflow
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | blackflow
[09:13] <dogmatic69> :D
[09:13] <blackflow> much obliged. :)
[09:22] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, I installed it but didn't see nothing about gamma
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: dconf-editor has a nice search function now, try gamma as keyword
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: org/freedesktop/color-helper/display-gamma
[09:27] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, I modified values. Anyway I log out and come back if i can ;-)
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: did it work?
[09:34] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, no. I restart an my display is always bad. I need to use xgamma -gamma 0.7 to get something normal
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: thats weird, you didnt play with nightlight or something? can we get a screenshot of that?
[09:35] <kecoa> hello
[09:36] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, nothing like that. I installed bionic an hour ago. All settings are by default
[09:37] <Mdlpe> I only enter the command line above
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: so you are saying, default bionic gives you a bad gamma?
[09:37] <blackflow> a screenshot would be nice.
[09:38] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, no I said the icc profile of my laptop is bad. It's different.
[09:39] <blackflow> no you said "my display is always bad", which doesn't imply icc... and for some reason you're asking about gamma when you think it's the icc profile that needs adjustment?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: lets see a screenshot & a: sudo lshw -C video ,please
[09:43] <Mdlpe> blackflow, I said it is easy to get an acceptable display setting by using xgamma -gamma 0.7 -bgamma 0.68. Translate this like you want.
[09:45] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, http://dpaste.com/240KZK6
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: you are using 2 graphics cards at the same time in there?
[09:47] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, I don't know. My laptop have two amd vega & 1050, but I need only nvidia
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: maybe thats why your screen scrambles? try to have a look in your bios, disable one
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: GTX cards i also reccomend using a driver from the ubuntu graphics ppa
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia
[09:50] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, https://postimg.cc/NLmjrGQj for the screenshot
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: thats your screen when its fixxed correct?
[09:53] <Mdlpe> the display is bad because it is an Asus laptop with no contrast. The walkaround is to set the gamma at a lower value. Linux or windows is the same. I tried Kde and it was so easy to fix it. With Ubuntu, i didn't found "how to "  and I use xgamma with the value above. My nvidia driver is from ubuntu driver
[09:53] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, yes it is acceptable
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: try the bios, see if you can disable amd card there
[09:55] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, after gamma settings : https://postimg.cc/GHSDXhsn
[09:56] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, Impossible to disable from bios. I never see a laptop with a bios gave you this opportunity in 20 years
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: laptop model/type please?
[09:57] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, asus vivobook 570 or something like that
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: could you check nvidia-settings if its on performance mode(nvidia) or powersaving (amd)?
[10:03] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, oups, my nvidia settings not works
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: what about ubuntu-drivers list?
[10:04] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[10:06] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, http://dpaste.com/1M7CMXQ 4.30 installed, perhaps It's better I downgraded it to 4.18 ?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: i would try to switch a driver as a test, yes and set your gamma settings 'bad' again to see if this fixes it
[10:09] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, switch to 4.18 ?
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: sure try
[10:10] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, does I need to remove old driver or only install the 4.18
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> Mdlpe: you can easy switch drivers from: software&updates/tab additional drivers
[10:12] <asdf124> i am new to lvm and snapshotting with it
[10:13] <asdf124> why is it required to give a snapshot volume a specific size?
[10:13] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, on the way...
[10:28] <Mdlpe> reboot
[10:30] <jackyko> Hi
[10:31] <jackyko> I miss up the /etc chmod ....and then i managed to recover most of it and run the os again ......but now the side bar is gone
[10:32] <jackyko> Any idea which file in /etc related to side bar and what chmod should be
[10:33] <jackyko> Its ubuntu 18.04
[10:58] <jackyko> I missed up chmod in /etc
[10:58] <jackyko> Help
[11:02] <Alabalistic> what's happend
[11:02] <Alabalistic> I can send you print of my permissions
[11:04] <Alabalistic> or btter nuck and pave
[11:09] <solderfumes> jackyko: sidebar gone, you probably don't have execute permissions on your `/etc/X11/xinint/` scripts, or your display manager's script (on kde it's `/etc/sddm/Xsession`
[11:12] <sp3ctr3> j
[11:13] <solderfumes> sp3ctr3 trying to scroll down?
[11:14] <sp3ctr3> Nope.
[11:16] <jackyko> So i did chmod a+x  /etc/
[11:16] <jackyko> And chmode -R a+x /etc/
[11:16] <jackyko> It didnt help
[11:17] <jackyko> Also tried a+rwx
[11:17] <jackyko> It fix many stuff but still side bar missing
[11:18] <jackyko> Ubuntu turn from purple to blue
[11:18] <jackyko> No idea why
[11:18] <jackyko> Damn
[11:19] <thsnr> wait, you did chmod -R a+rwx /etc ? that is a super bad idea, now all programs running in your computer have access to sensitive information (passwords etc)
[11:20] <jackyko> I am trying to run the desktop
[11:20] <jackyko> Desktop is missing
[11:21] <jackyko> Coz i missed u /etc chmod
[11:21] <jackyko> I want it back now
[11:21] <Mdlpe> lotuspsychje, I swap to 4.18, Ubuntu crashed. Anyway, I have a problem with nvidia-settings it is empty
[11:21] <jackyko> Missed up*
[11:22] <thsnr> jackyko: i am not sure there is an easy way to recover the permissions of all files under /etc after you have overwritten them
[11:22] <jackyko> Any body running 18.4.1 could you please back me the /etc chmod list
[11:23] <jackyko> Backup me*
[11:23] <Alabalistic> I will fresh install one virtual box
[11:23] <Alabalistic> if you have some time
[11:23] <jackyko> Yea alright
[11:23] <jackyko> Thnks
[11:25] <Alabalistic> Yes I have 18.04.1 already downloaded
[11:25] <jackyko> Nice
[11:25] <jackyko> You would save my day
[11:26] <Alabalistic> jackyko: Very interesting project but how about ownership, shold do I use the same username and password as you
[11:26] <Alabalistic> is it gonna work frome love CD
[11:27] <jackyko> I did try the live usb but t seema missing stuff
[11:28] <jackyko> It did fix lot but not all
[11:31] <blackflow> jackyko: since you messed it up with -R and effectively set 777 on entire /etc tree, you should first do it again but set a saner 755. Then, fix individual files and dirs if they need stricter permissions.
[11:31] <blackflow> reinstalling all the packages is another way (after you reset it to 755)
[11:33] <jackyko> All packages can be lunched from terminal ... But the links is unreadable
[11:34] <jackyko> Links somewhere ....
[11:34] <jackyko> Which required chmod
[11:34] <geirha> I doubt reinstalling will fix the permissions on config files
[11:35] <jackyko> Yea sure
[11:35] <jackyko> But the dock will be empty
[11:35] <Alabalistic> I keep my Home on separate partition and in moment like this Format and reinstall
[11:36] <jackyko> I mean the side bar
[11:36] <blackflow> geirha: it will if they're part of the package and not created during post-inst
[11:36] <user__> test
[11:37] <Alabalistic> jackyko: Try Kubuntu 19.04 its the best User Exp.
[11:37] <geirha> blackflow: If you say so, but I'm not convinced. dpkg normally doesn't modify existing config files
[11:38] <blackflow> geirha: iirc that's true if it detects them being modified by content, but even so, dpkg options can be set to force config files restoration
[11:41] <jackyko> Where the gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock located in /etc
[11:42] <madghost> hello all, I have a trouble with update :(
[11:42] <madghost> Îøá:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 gcc-8-base amd64 8.3.0-6ubuntu1~18.04  403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]
[11:42] <madghost> what can I fix it ?
[11:43] <madghost> etc/apt/sources.list is default
[11:43] <madghost> I can't do upgrade
[11:44] <madghost> I can't install anything (
[11:46] <Mdlpe> hi, I have a bug with nvidia bionic : https://postimg.cc/ppmXKypw/c5a0a9a4
[11:47] <blackflow> madghost: try another mirror: https://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[11:48] <madghost> blackflow: thanks!
[11:50] <bella> hello everybody. I'm on ubuntu server 18. I want to install squid3.1 but the only available version is 3.5>
[11:52] <blackflow> bella: the only way is if you build your own package from it, or install from source into a container (so you don't mess up your entire system). why do you want that specific version, though?
[11:53] <bella> because I want to install grase-conf-radius who rely exclusively on it
[11:53] <blackflow> bella: containers and manual software installation. Or perhaps see if a PPA exists, but I'd anyway recommend you did it in a container you can easily discard.   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=squid
[11:54] <blackflow> bella: are you 100% sure this grase thing can't work with a newer squid?
[11:56] <bella> i'm not sure but it is its dependency. It is marked that it needs squid3 (<3.2)
[11:58] <blackflow> bella: marked where?
[11:59] <bella> when i try apt-get install grase-conf-squid3 it shows unsatisfied dependencies
[12:00] <bella> grase-conf-squid2-3.3 depend squid3 (<3.5) but 3.5... should be installed
[12:00] <blackflow> bella: well you'll have to ask the maintainer of the PPA you're installing it from, as that software is not packaged regularly in Ubuntu.
[12:02] <g105b> I've just logged into an older server that has been unmaintained, and I need to upgrade some software on it, however apt update is yelling at me 404 not found because the packages are so out of date. Please can someone help me understand what to edit to upgrade the packages?
[12:02] <bella> thanks blackflow.the problem is that i should install this software now before quitting work.Otherly, i risk getting problem with my client. sad :-(
[12:03] <ioria> g105b, cat /etc/issue
[12:03] <guiverc2> g105b, what is it running?  it may be EOL
[12:03] <g105b> ioria: Ubuntu 15.04
[12:03] <g105b> guiverc2: yeah it's definitely eol
[12:04] <g105b> not sure why it's at that version... I didn't set it up.
[12:04] <ioria> g105b, is end of life; you need a fresh install
[12:04] <g105b> oh.
[12:04] <blackflow> bella: there is no quick solution here unless you hack the package and rebuild it updated dependencies.
[12:04] <guiverc2> 15.04 was not a EOL, 9 or 15 months of life.  it's upgrade path is gone so I'd re-install too
[12:05] <blackflow> bella: but then, the question is whether it can support/work-with newer dependencies. Is this for the "GraseHotspot"?
[12:05] <ioria> g105b, faster than going through the http://old-releases.ubuntu.com thing
[12:07] <blackflow> guiverc2: "was not a EOL"? It EOL'd long time ago, back in 2016.
[12:07] <bella> Yes, it is for the grasehotspot. Does anyone know a way to install it properly on ubuntu 18?
[12:07] <guiverc2> sorry i mis-worded; was not a LTS, only 9 or 15 months life (I forget which 15.04 was; 9 or 15)
[12:08] <blackflow> bella: maybe using the official repos:  https://grasehotspot.org/documentation/installation/
[12:09] <bella> By the way, I tried to install via PPA for ubuntu 12 or whatelse but i always encountered GPG key invalid or unsigned repository. I try with --allow-unauthenticated and [trusted=yes] in sources.list but the problem persisted. What have I to do ?
[12:09] <blackflow> bella: but with last news post from 2017, that software looks like abandonware and probably won't have installable packages for Bionic
[12:10] <blackflow> bella: you'll have to ask the original developers. that's not packaged for Ubuntu and thus not supported here, I'm afraid.
[12:10] <blackflow> bella: read the news about expired key, and then please contact the developers for further assistance:   https://grasehotspot.org/
[12:12] <bella> i have not the time.I have to start the service and demo before leaving work at 5. My client will shot me . Ahhhhhh !!!
[12:13] <blackflow> bella: is there anything else we can help you with?
[12:15] <bella> yes! you can show me how to bypass this problem of GPG key when attempting to install from PPA.  By the way, package of old release PPA can be installed without risk of damage ?
[12:17] <blackflow> bella: it's explained on the link I posted to you.
[12:20] <bella> thanks everybody. I will try asking developpers of this software. Ciao
[12:25] <YoKeSe> Hello, very good, could someone tell me how I can create a shortcut for an application installed with Q4Wine? Distribution Ubuntu 18.04. Thank you.
[12:31] <madghost> I fix it :-) 403 forbidden then upgrade Ubuntu :-))))
[12:31] <madghost> LOL
[12:31] <madghost> change HTTP to FTP in sources.list :-)))
[12:34] <groupers> Does anyone know if AD managed service accounts can be used for linux services using SSSD for authentication? Idealy the scheduled password changes would be handled automatically, like they are in Windows.
[12:35] <Silvering> Hi everyone! Someone here ?
[12:35] <groupers> nope
[12:35] <Silvering> lol ok perfect!
[12:36] <pragmaticenigma> groupers: Please refrain from discouraging others from asking their questions. If/when someone has an answer or understands the topic of your question, they will reply.
[12:37] <groupers> pragmaticenigma: It was clearly a joke but okay
[12:37] <pragmaticenigma> Silvering: Please feel free to simply ask your question. There is no reason to check if anyone is available. If someone knows about your question, they will reply when they can.
[12:37] <Silvering> @pragmaticenigma : Ok thanks
[12:39] <Silvering> I have a server running locally on 192.168.1.233. I can access to the running server on others local machines. I created a domain name and set the /etc/hosts to be able to reach the server via mydomain.name.
[12:40] <Silvering> On the ubuntu machine where the server runs I can reach the server page with mydomain.name as 192.168.x.xxx. My issue is with the others local machines. Typing mydomain.name redirect to the port 5000 where my synology is listening
[12:41] <Silvering> any idea how to solve that ? Thanks in advance!
[12:41] <aiena> I have an ubuntu server. I want to open up ssh for external access. I csn ssh to the server via LAN IP I setup port forwarding on the router but I cannot connect.
[12:41] <aiena> Anything I need to do on the ubuntu server?
[12:41] <aiena> I mean I cannot connect via my public IP
[12:42] <blackflow> aiena: from where, from outside the LAN? or are you trying the public IP from inside it?
[12:42] <aiena> AH I am trying the public ip from inside the lan network
[12:42] <pragmaticenigma> Silvering: the entries you have made in your /etc/hosts file only applies to the machine you have made the entry on. It does not automatically distribute itself to other machines. You will have to make the same entry on all your machines that you desire to access your server via the friendly domain name.
[12:42] <aiena> do I need to test via nother connection e.g. over 3g from a different isp?
[12:42] <blackflow> aiena: yeah that probably won't work (depends on the LAN/WAN edge router though)
[12:43] <blackflow> aiena: you need to test from _outside_ of LAN, from whichever machine
[12:43] <blackflow> Silvering: or setup a public DNS server, or use your domain registrar's.
[12:44] <aiena> Ok I have termux on my android that uses the 3G netork so let me try.
[12:44] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: This is for a local network setup
[12:45] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: doesn't matter, a public DNS could still be used. I was referring to "I created a domain name", guessing a domain was reg'd
[12:45] <blackflow> if that's not the case, then yeah, a LAN based DNS would be needed, or copy the hosts file everywhere
[12:45] <aiena> blackflow: I know the public ip address someone said I can use a dynamic dns provider
[12:45] <Silvering> ok guys thanks a lot
[12:45] <aiena> but will the public ip alone work for testing without the process of registering a dyndns?
[12:46] <blackflow> aiena: yes, if you know it.
[12:46] <YoKeSe> Would anyone know how I can create a shortcut for an application installed with Q4Wine?
[12:47] <Alabalistic> No idea man
[12:47] <aiena> YoKeSe: you could find out how to run the wipe app via terminal. Once you are able to successfully launch it. Use that command in a regular custom created shortcut
[12:47] <aiena> *how to run the wine
[12:48] <aiena> I create cusom desktop shortcuts to bash scripts etc. that way
[12:49] <YoKeSe> i can run it with: q4wine
[12:49] <YoKeSe> i know that for wine is wine "path" example wine "C:\Program files\APP"
[12:50] <YoKeSe> but q4wine no work with this method
[12:50] <blackflow> YoKeSe: create a .desktop file wich invokes "wine C:\Program Files\...."   see this:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/437555/creating-wine-shortcuts
[12:51] <blackflow> YoKeSe: if you can start it from the command line, you can put exactly that same command under Exec=  for the .desktop
[12:53] <blackflow> YoKeSe: if you put the .desktop under   ~/.local/share/applications/    it would appear in the dash, and so you can favorize it onto the launcher
[12:53] <YoKeSe> yes, but wine get error
[12:53] <YoKeSe> for this motive i need to use q4wine
[12:53] <YoKeSe> i try it before and application try to run, but fail
[12:54] <YoKeSe> maybe i can try winehq
[12:56] <dzakpasu> join
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> YoKeSe: Both q4wine and winehq are tools for launching applications installed into wine. Installing another tool will not enable you to create a desktop shortcut as desired. These tools are designed to take care of launching the application in wine with all the necessary and configured parameters for the application to run properly.
[13:05] <YoKeSe> I do not understand cause WINE does not work corretly when loading the application path. Q4Wine works perfectly, opening up clear, first q4wine and then loading the application
[13:13] <blackflow> YoKeSe: does q4wine-cli work?
[13:14] <blackflow> YoKeSe: also you can use wine directly with full linux path to the executable, you don't have to use C:\Program Files\...
[13:16] <YoKeSe> I have the solution
[13:18] <YoKeSe_> ops i get 1 fail
[13:18] <YoKeSe_> sorry
[13:18] <YoKeSe_> Create a program access in q4wine with right button, new.
[13:19] <YoKeSe_> then select your application and simply drop it by dragging the file to / usr / share / applications
[13:20] <YoKeSe_> u how do you need administrative privileges
[13:20] <blackflow> YoKeSe: you put put it under ~/.local/share/applications/ as well, in your $HOME
[13:20] <blackflow> YoKeSe: also, you can use q4wine-cli and build your own .desktop shortcut
[13:20] <YoKeSe_> Then, place your file in / home and then: sudo mv /home/filename.desktop /usr/share/applications/filename.desktop
[13:21] <YoKeSe_> ah
[13:21] <YoKeSe_> yes...
[13:21] <YoKeSe_> i dont know it, thnks
[13:22] <jackyko> find /etc/ xargs stat -c 'chmod %a "'%n'"' > /tmp/chmod.sh. Copy the file chmod.sh  <---- could some running 18.4.1 run this commamd and send me the file plz ,,,, i need chmod list for /etc
[13:22]  * mr_lou is having trouble with external Toshiba HD's - they all seem to be incredibly slow. :-(  As in 1,5 mb per second.
[13:22] <mr_lou> Other harddisks are fine. What gives?
[13:22] <mr_lou> Is it a solid state issue?
[13:25] <gabkdlly> mr_lou: Are they maybe using an older USB standard ?
[13:25] <mr_lou> No. USB3.0
[13:26] <mr_lou> They also do seem to work fine on a Windows machine, and even my Ubuntu too. But when connected to our server (also Ubuntu) which calls a backup script from cron, then it goes insanely slow. But the same task is fast with other harddisks.
[13:26] <mr_lou> It's just weird.
[13:27] <mr_lou> I've searched for days now. Lots of people have issues with slow harddisks, but I don't think any of what I find is related.
[13:27] <mr_lou> They report speeds of about 15 mb per second. I'm seeing speeds of about 1,5 mb per second.
[13:28] <trench> what does smartmontools say?
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: 1,5 mb per second is the max throughput of a USB 1.0 device. how old is the device? does it experience the same slowness on other computers?
[13:28] <mr_lou> Haven't looked. They're brand new harddisks.
[13:29] <mr_lou> Toshiba model Canvio 2 TB
[13:29] <trench> smartctl -h
[13:29] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, No, they seem to give speeds of up to 170 mb per second on other devices, including my own Ubuntu PC.
[13:31] <mr_lou> I'm missing something silly.
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: it sounds like there is a limitation of the server. If the drives are performing as desired elsewhere
[13:32] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, Except 5 other harddisks run fine with the server.
[13:32] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, This is the first time in over a decade we're seeing this.
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: It could be a matter of the controller on that server not recognizing and auto-negotiating with that drive.
[13:32] <genii> mr_lou: Is this an SSD?
[13:33] <mr_lou> These Toshiba harddisks take 66 minutes to copy 10 gb. Our other harddisk (an Intenso) only takes 1 minute to copy those same 10 gb.
[13:34] <mr_lou> genii, I think so. Can't see anything on the box about it though. So not sure.
[13:34] <genii> SSD drives slow down to a crawl when they start to fill up
[13:34] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, I do get high speeds on the server at first. But after a few minutes, speed drops...  as if I'm using an old poor defective USB stick.
[13:34] <mr_lou> genii, But this happens early. It's no where near filled up.
[13:34] <SwedeMike> genii: that depends on the drive type.
[13:35] <mr_lou> Like only 3% filled.
[13:35] <genii> SwedeMike: I had it happen recently with an 850 EVO
[13:36] <SwedeMike> genii: I'm not disputing that happens to some drive types, but on the other hand it doesn't on other drive types. There is a huge difference between different types of SSDs
[13:36] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, I suspected maybe I'd used a USB2.0 port, but even that should result in speeds that slow. (1,5 mb per second).
[13:38] <genii> mr_lou: Have you checked dmesg for possible I/O errors ?
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: what file system is on the disk?
[13:38] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, I tried different filesystems. NTFS and ext4. The latter one appears to be slightly faster, but nothing significant.
[13:38] <mr_lou> genii, No
[13:38]  * mr_lou checks
[13:39] <mr_lou> No such errors
[13:41] <CryptoSiD> Hi, is there an equivalent of tcpkill but for IPv6?
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> CryptoSiD: tcpkill works via interfaces and ports, not the ip stack, does it fail to kill the connection when it is IPv6?
[13:45] <blackflow> mr_lou: didn't you ask the same question here yesterday?
[13:46] <CryptoSiD> My he-ipv6 interface only have an ipv6 ip and tcpkill don't like it: "tcpkill: he-ipv6: no IPv4 address assigned"
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> CryptoSiD: Interesting, if no one seems to have a solution here... I recommend you might want to try asking in ##networking
[13:48] <tds> not to encourage crossposting, and I noticed you'd already asked in ##networking, but people in #Netfilter may be helpful if you don't get a response after a bit
[13:48] <CryptoSiD> Already asked in ##networking also (Sorry I know I shouldn't have double asked)
[13:48] <tds> what are you actually trying to do - terminate all known tracked connections, or just send back tcp resets for those connections once you see more packets for them?
[13:49] <tds> since I'm pretty sure you could just do the latter with ip6tables
[13:50] <CryptoSiD> I'm just trying to kill a tcp6 connection to an irc server, using either the ip6 of the server or the ip6 of the vhost used on this connection
[13:51] <CryptoSiD> tcpkill ip host ip6-of-the-server or ip6-of-the-vhost-on-ens160-iface (but the output interface is he-ipv6)
[13:51] <tds> just add an ip6tables rule to drop/reject the traffic, or if this is an existing connection and you have rules to allow related/established delete the conntrack entry
[13:54] <CryptoSiD> Yes I can drop the connection with iptables but I wanted to try tcpkill:)
[13:54] <CryptoSiD> How do I delete a conntrack entry?
[13:55] <tds> you need the conntrack utility from conntrack-tools
[13:55] <CryptoSiD> ok I'll try this, thank you
[13:55] <mr_lou> blackflow, Yes. I bought another harddisk. Gives me same problem. O_o
[13:56] <blackflow> mr_lou: different brand? which one?
[13:58] <mr_lou> blackflow, No. Same brand. Even same model, but maybe different sub-model. Guy in the shop was certain the other one was broke, and they didn't have any other 2 tb models.
[13:59] <blackflow> mr_lou: so you have two drives, same brand and model, that don't quite work, regardless of filesystem, while other drives, on that same cable and USB port, work fine?  how much proof you need more than it has nothing to do with ubuntu? :)
[14:00] <JonelethIrenicus> pandoc allows you to read in multiple files, but doesn't allow you to easily output multiple files?  How do you do that
[14:00] <CryptoSiD> ok doing it with conntrack is perfect.
[14:02] <mr_lou> blackflow, it gets weirder. They both seem to work fine on my Ubuntu. Just not the server (running Ubuntu).
[14:07] <mr_lou> blackflow, It feels like the server is missing some kind of driver...
[14:07] <blackflow> mr_lou: I'm still inclined to believe it's hardware issue. maybe something about those cables and USB ports, and these drives are sensitive to it, while the other brands are not.
[14:07] <mr_lou> ...for these particular harddrives.
[14:07] <mr_lou> blackflow, Different cable now.
[14:07] <blackflow> mr_lou: the only driver involved here is xhci, there's no HDD specific driver.
[14:07] <mr_lou> k
[14:08] <mr_lou> I feels like the effect of sending data to the harddisk "too fast", so it gets exhausted, or something like that. As if it can't keep up.
[14:09] <blackflow> mr_lou: with ext4? because don't diagnose with NTFS, FUSE is unreliable for anything.
[14:09] <OerHeks> copying first fills buffers ( cache) that gives a high speed, then it trottles back..
[14:09] <blackflow> mr_lou: and again, a question I asked you several times but you never confirmed... did you check dmesg or journal to see if there are any probels reported at the IO layer, while you access those drives?
[14:09] <OerHeks> it all depends on what data, many files, and such
[14:10] <blackflow> mr_lou: *problems
[14:10] <OerHeks> the only speed test is to copy a GB file
[14:10] <mr_lou> blackflow, I just did a few minutes ago. No such errors.
[14:11] <V7> Hey all!
[14:11] <blackflow> mr_lou: you could also try a fs agnostic test. just dd straight to teh device, no partitions, no fs.  it's a new driver, yes? no data to lose on it?
[14:11] <V7> o/
[14:11] <V7> Is it time to update to a new Ubuntu?
[14:11] <blackflow> mr_lou: teh dd test is really the best here
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> V7: wich ubuntu are you on?
[14:12] <V7> OerHeks: This one might use 1 connection while it's possible to use parallels
[14:12] <V7> lotuspsychje: 1804
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> V7: the users choice, lts vs non-lts
[14:12] <V7> Oh, sorry, 9.04
[14:12] <mr_lou> blackflow, Yea I thought about trying that. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc   right?
[14:13] <mr_lou> But then with some timer thingy.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> V7: only serious ubuntu questions please
[14:13] <V7> Just kiddin' :D
[14:14] <mr_lou> blackflow, Anyway, gotta go.
[14:14] <blackflow> mr_lou: no timer need. use a sane block size and limit its count. eg.    dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4k count=100000    400 MB should suffice to blow through all the caches and measure actual throughput
[14:14] <blackflow> *needed
[14:14] <blackflow> then try with a bigger block size to reduce iops. say 64k or even 1M  (but adjust count then, count is of blocks, not bytes, or you'll wait a while)
[14:15] <mr_lou> blackflow, And what will this prove? What kind of output will I get?
[14:16] <mr_lou> I will continue later. Right now I'm committed to a party at my daughter's school. See ya.
[14:16] <blackflow> mr_lou: it will remove the fs variable out of equation
[14:17] <blackflow> mr_lou: you need to reduce as many variables as you can, to isolate the problematic one.
[14:17] <mr_lou> Hm..
[14:18] <mr_lou> Sounds like it's easier to just buy a different brand of harddisk.
[14:18] <mr_lou> :-/
[14:18]  * mr_lou wanna become a farmer instead.
[14:18] <mr_lou> See ya later.
[14:18] <mr_lou> o/
[14:20] <linuxconformer> lol why tf can i not install pipenv on ubuntu 18?
[14:21] <linuxconformer> this is what i get when i try to run pip3 -> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wmy5dWyChF/
[14:22] <baris> hello
[14:22] <lordcirth> linuxconformer, What Ubuntu version, and how did you install pip3?
[14:22] <lordcirth> baris, hi
[14:23] <linuxconformer> lordcirth: 18.04, and installed by sudo apt install pip3
[14:23] <linuxconformer> apparently python3 -m pipenv works
[14:23] <linuxconformer> no idea why i need to write all that unnecessary bs tho
[14:24] <baris> i have a question for the zfs
[14:25] <r4ulrm> linuxconformer: alias python to python3
[14:25] <tds> baris: unless it's ubuntu specific, you might want #zfsonlinux
[14:25] <baris> thanks
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> r4ulrm: That is a terrible idea and will break other applications
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> r4ulrm: specifically, that will cause issues with apt and apt-get
[14:30] <r4ulrm> linuxconformer: https://gist.github.com/kogcyc/07c3e5d1f427c9fa6b99044d81f8ee82
[14:53] <arash> how to install windows on the side or in a virtual machine?
[14:53] <golden_ticket> arash, arash ever hear of rm?
[14:53] <golden_ticket> This has nothing to do with it
[14:54] <golden_ticket> You need virtual box or vmware or xen
[14:54] <leftyfb> golden_ticket: please don't
[14:54] <dev2000> Hi, I'm having staging problems building a Snap package. Where can I get support?
[14:54] <arash> .)
[14:54] <golden_ticket> I said this has nothing to do with it leftyfb
[14:54] <golden_ticket> lol
[14:54] <arash> lol
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> !dual-boot | arash
[14:54] <arash> I know what rm is
[14:54] <cfhowlett> arash= install vbox into ubuntu.  create a virtualmachine.  install windows to vm.
[14:54] <leftyfb> arash: install virtualbox. Follow instructions you find online for installing Windows within virtualbox
[14:54] <cfhowlett> or dual boot.
[14:54] <arash> virtual box is better I think
[14:54] <arash> dualboot is too much of a hassle
[14:54] <golden_ticket> arash xen is the best
[14:55] <cfhowlett> so question answered then?
[14:55] <OerHeks> arash, all ubuntu manuals say: install first windows, then ubuntu
[14:55] <arash> No
[14:55] <leftyfb> golden_ticket: can we help you with something?
[14:55] <golden_ticket> xen makes you use terminal like a real man
[14:55] <arash> Root = linux
[14:55] <arash> Windows then ubuntu sucks
[14:55] <arash> Ubuntu then windows is something to seek
[14:55] <golden_ticket> leftyfb, I'm here to provide support
[14:55] <OerHeks> arash, good, have fun
[14:56] <leftyfb> golden_ticket: I have yet to see that. Please keep the commentary to yourself
[14:56] <arash> I've just migrated from Windows insider edition
[14:56] <cfhowlett> +1
[14:56] <arash> Im not going back to that hellhole again
[14:56] <golden_ticket> leftyfb, so you think xen is useless? Tell that to the community at ##xen
[14:56] <arash> Reset factorying pc every few days...
[14:56] <golden_ticket> please keep YOUR commentary to yourself
[14:56] <CryptoSiD> The "su" bash-completion file is working in 16.04 but it's not working in 19.04. How can i report this?
[14:57] <arash> golden_ticket virtualbox it is
[14:57] <CryptoSiD> I copied /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/su from a 16.04 into 19.04 /etc/bash_completion.d/ and now the su bash-completion is working #1
[14:57] <arash> wish it was x64
[14:57] <golden_ticket> arash, I would use xen for real though
[14:57] <leftyfb> CryptoSiD: it's working fine here
[14:58] <leftyfb> CryptoSiD: oh, sorry. 19.04. It's working fine on 18.04
[14:58] <leftyfb> golden_ticket: please stop
[14:58] <golden_ticket> leftyfb, what's wrong with xen?
[14:58] <CryptoSiD> could you please pastebin /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/su from 18.04 leftyfb
[14:58] <leftyfb> CryptoSiD: no. But it's called _su, not su
[14:58] <arash> is it easy to setup?
[14:59] <arash> Virtualbox is simpler
[14:59] <golden_ticket> arash, it's easy AND fun
[14:59] <golden_ticket> and you get to use terminal
[14:59] <leftyfb> arash: stick with Virtualbox. Good luck.
[14:59] <cfhowlett> arash= your machine, your choice.  vbox is so simple a caveman could do it.
[14:59] <golden_ticket> arash, you get ultimate control over the vm's
[14:59] <arash> hmm xen sounds like a plan of learning
[15:00] <arash> vbox sounds like simple child's play
[15:00] <golden_ticket> arash go look up libvirt
[15:00] <golden_ticket> it makes xen very easy
[15:00] <golden_ticket> exactly
[15:00] <golden_ticket> be a man
[15:00] <golden_ticket> go use xe n
[15:00] <golden_ticket> xen*
[15:00] <OerHeks> CryptoSiD, why would you need 18.04 version when you are on 19.04? not sure it is different, but your approach is amazing
[15:02] <CryptoSiD> the "su" bash completion isn't working in 19.04, it wont complete username. It's working fine in 18.04 and 16.04. However if I copy /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/_su (from 19.04) into /etc/bash_completion.d/su. Now the su bash completion work fine.
[15:03] <arash> gosh vbox doesn't work
[15:04] <cfhowlett> arash= details?
[15:04] <arash> kernel driver not installed
[15:04] <arash> modprobe vboxdrv
[15:04] <arash> operation not permitted
[15:04] <cfhowlett> sudo ...
[15:05] <gilberto> ,-
[15:05] <arash> tried, failed
[15:05] <cfhowlett> what ubuntu version arash
[15:05] <arash> If your system has EFI Secure Boot enabled you may also need to sign the kernel modules (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, vboxpci) before you can load them. Please see your Linux system's documentation for more information.
[15:05] <arash> 19.04
[15:05] <Guest13680> ,-)
[15:06] <cfhowlett> arash= do this:    sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:06] <arash> updating
[15:07] <arash> 0-0-0
[15:07] <cfhowlett> arash= following this, logout/login and I think you're good
[15:08] <arash> hmmm
[15:08] <arash> lets see
[15:11] <backbox> hi
[15:13] <jackyko> Would someone send me chmod list for /etc
[15:14] <arash> VMWare workstation is better
[15:14] <arash> vbox fails at installation time
[15:14] <arash> fails during*
[15:14] <golden_ticket> arash install xen
[15:14] <golden_ticket> it's the only virtualization technology that doesn't suck
[15:14] <arash> VMW gets the job done
[15:14] <arash> Xen is way too hard for me
[15:15] <arash> That's great for datacenters
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> golden_ticket: You were asked to stop doing that... if you are not going to provide and follow through with helping someone, please visit another channel
[15:15] <jackyko> find /etc/ xargs stat -c 'chmod %a "'%n'"' > /tmp/chmod.sh
[15:15] <golden_ticket> pragmaticenigma, he didn't ask for me to help him follow through
[15:15] <golden_ticket> so stfu
[15:15] <golden_ticket> i would have if he had asked
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | golden_ticket
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !language | golden_ticket
[15:15] <jackyko> Any one run this and send me the file plz
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> jackyko: No one is going to run that code
[15:16] <OerHeks> jackyko, did you mess up /etc/ ?
[15:16] <jackyko> Yea
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> jackyko: The only way to fix your /etc folder is to restore a system backup
[15:16] <jackyko> I dun have a backup
[15:17] <EriC^^> jackyko: an easier way would be getfacl -Rnp /etc, you can use setfacl with the same file to set the permissions
[15:17] <EriC^^> jackyko: here you go buddy https://termbin.com/pllk
[15:17] <blackflow> uhhhh I wouldn't use facl unless there's no alternative
[15:17] <EriC^^> jackyko: "man setfacl"
[15:18] <jackyko> EriC^^ can i execute this ?
[15:18] <EriC^^> jackyko: execute what?
[15:19] <EriC^^> getfacl will get the permissions, i ran that, in the future if you want to backup your permissions, you could do "getfacl -Rnp /etc > /path/to/permissions.backup" and you would have a backup of them
[15:19] <jackyko> I need you to run the command i gave you then link me the file
[15:19] <arash> I have a VMWorkstation bundle file
[15:19] <arash> how can I install it?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> jackyko= nothing to execute.  that will literally giv eyou the manual for the "setfacl" command.
[15:20] <jackyko> Ok manual is fine
[15:20] <EriC^^> jackyko: i sent you a link to my run of getfacl, you can use setfacl with that file to set all the permissions of similar files it finds
[15:20] <jackyko> Thnx
[15:20] <jackyko> Aha ok
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !vmware | arash please read
[15:20] <EriC^^> jackyko: sudo setfacl --restore=/path/to/my/file
[15:20] <arash> Virtualbox failed
[15:20] <EriC^^> wget -O /path/to/my/file https://termbin.com/pllk
[15:21] <EriC^^> jackyko: you'll still be missing the permissions of software that you have that i dont have on my install though
[15:21] <EriC^^> for instance if you have apache server but i havent installed it on mine, etc
[15:22] <arash> found this https://websiteforstudents.com/installing-vmware-workstation-14-pro-ubuntu-17-04-17-10/
[15:23] <arash> chmod +x   ++ pre-required files = easy install
[15:23] <EriC^^> jackyko: a better way would be to get a list of all your installed packages, install them in a vm automatically then use getfacl to get the permissions, set them on yours with setfacl and then fine tune any stuff you've added yourself, like custom configs etc
[15:23] <arash> VMWorkstation is amazing
[15:24] <OerHeks> arash, kvm is more amazing, and free
[15:26] <arash> You're right
[15:26] <arash> But this is easier
[15:26] <arash> Besides, free is just a pirate hat away :))
[15:27] <OerHeks> vmware and piracy is beyond the scope of this channel
[15:27] <arash> I understand, I'm just joking
[15:27] <arash> Don't take me too seriously
[15:27] <cfhowlett> arash= focus.
[15:46] <CryptoSiD> is there a way to assign an entire /64 of ipv6 without adding 1 line for each ips
[15:46] <CryptoSiD> to an interface
[15:46] <CryptoSiD> In either /etc/network/interfaces of netplan file
[15:48] <jojo1> Hi, I forked an ubuntu-mate project from github. If I now hacked on that project and compiled it, if I want to commit git also wants to commit all the compiled stuff. Is my workflow wrong?
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> jojo1: we keep the scope of the channel to ubuntu support issues, own compiling we cannot support
[15:50] <jojo1> ok
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> jojo1: feel free to use #ubuntu-offtopic or use !alis
[15:51] <JuJUBee>  Im getting duplicate class Main errors but there is no duplicate class called main in my project.  I want to clear the cache but ~/.cache/netbeans does not exist.  Anyone have an idea
[15:51] <OerHeks> JuJUBee, how did you install netbeans? snap?
[15:52] <JuJUBee> no, download tar.gz
[15:54] <JuJUBee> OerHeks, ^^
[15:54] <OerHeks> some docs say ~/.cache/netbeans/, or ~/.netbeans/
[15:54] <JuJUBee> don
[15:54] <JuJUBee> OerHeks, don't have either
[15:55] <OerHeks> check your netbeans.conf ?
[16:23] <casaw> hi
[16:24] <OerHeks> :)
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[16:25] <OerHeks> mode +r please
[16:26] <tonyt> school must be out for some already it seems
[16:33] <puroturo> Hi, switched back to Ubuntu 19.04 from Antergos yesterday and I noticed that current versions of the yaru theme in gnome  "overlay" some unfocused or inactive windows with a "dimming" effect. My google-fu apparently is not good and I can't find an answer elsewhere on how to disable this. Anyone have an idea? a CSS modification?
[16:36] <gallomimia> ah there we go
[16:37] <gallomimia> can someone tell me a procedure for getting a nice visualization of my LVM set up?
[16:37] <gallomimia> had it before can never remember the name
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> puroturo: Did you install the theme through apt or did you obtain it direct from one of the Theme sites?
[16:43] <puroturo> pragmaticenigma: Thanks for the reply. It's the default theme installed via the Desktop ISO. gnome-tweaks identifies the theme name as yaru, so I suspect from the default repositories. The two main applications affected (for me) is eclipse (using dark theme) and tilix (with a bit of transparency). When these windows become unfocused, I'm unable to read their contents because the overlay is so dark (and sometimes I need to on different monitors).
[16:44] <puroturo> pragmaticenigma: i can supply screenshots if need be.
[16:45] <OerHeks> gallomimia, there used to be system-config-lvm
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> puroturo: That won't be necessary... My inquiry was to see the origin of the theme, as sometimes 3rd party themes don't accommodate all use cases other than the designers setup. Eclipse I know doesn't like to follow GTK themes, it works best in its "light mode"
[16:49] <puroturo> pragmaticenigma: Understood. I agree, but every other theme seems to not have this effect. I actually had the yaru-theme installed on my Antergos install and had the same problem. EVERY other theme I had on the Antergos install worked without issue, so I think this is a yaru-specific configuration. I tried to nail it down to gtk2 apps (not sure which tk eclipse RCP uses in entirety, used to be 2), but tilix also suffers the same which should be gtk3.
[16:50] <gallomimia> logical volume management? not in the software store... how do i get that installed? every website i find just says "install it"
[16:51] <OerHeks> gallomimia, "there used to be" ... so i guess you remembered that tool
[16:51] <OerHeks> gone, EOL, dead project
[16:51] <gallomimia> is there anything that does it?
[16:51] <OerHeks> I have no clue. no gui thingy AFAIK
[16:52] <gallomimia> i found some trialware that claims to but wont run
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> puroturo: The project is located here: https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> You could look through the code base there, and see if anything were to catch your eye as something to investigate. Might also help you locate the local installation files
[16:53] <puroturo> pragmaticenigma: am aware, already been there to RTFM before I came here to ask, but nothing sticks out. I'll start digging through the theme CSS files, was just hoping someone knew. Thanks again for the help!
[16:53] <gallomimia> so, that's the second case of horrendous feature regression i've seen in the world of ubuntu in as many days. why is all of computer science going in reverse?
[16:54] <gallomimia> don't like something? wait 2 years until it gets "developed" out of existence
[16:54] <OerHeks> puroturo, how did you install yaru ? it is now known as https://snapcraft.io/communitheme
[16:54] <puroturo> OerHeks: default theme as part of ISO installation
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: yaru appears to be the default theme for Gnome Shell Ubuntu
[16:54] <OerHeks> i know, in 18.10
[16:55] <OerHeks> gallomimia, not sure what your rant is about ...
[16:55] <gallomimia> things going backwards, functionality disappearing
[16:55] <gallomimia> does that seem good to you? i thought as time goes forward, we are blessed with the works of MORE floss, not less.
[16:56] <gallomimia> pretty sure that's why i don't use apple or microsoft
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> gallomimia: In most cases it's because developers have reduced time to devote to all their projects and some just idle too long and are eventually removed to avoid potential attack vectors
[16:56] <OerHeks> that system-config-lvm was under maintenance in universe, not an ubuntu role in that
[16:56] <puroturo> gallomimia, system-config-* stuff was likely a redhat thing, not specific to ubuntu
[16:57] <gallomimia> i do see that on the pages i've searched for
[16:57] <gallomimia> doesn't mean it should disappear from the world
[16:57] <puroturo> gallomimia, so pick it back up, fork it, and maintain it!
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> gallomimia: if you have a wish in ubuntu, you can file a wishlist bug, as user you have influence
[16:58] <gallomimia> i need to manage my LVMs before i can play with code :P
[16:58] <geigerCounter> Could I get some help trying to get my bluetooth mouse working with Ubuntu?
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> gallomimia: You could try KVPM
[16:58] <puroturo> gallomimia, you should be able to manage your lvms with the standard tools that are maintained well enough. Is there something that system-config-lvm supplied you that the CLI tools do not?
[16:58] <gallomimia> sure come with an easy one why don't you :P
[16:59] <geigerCounter> Bluetooth's working fine and my ThinkPad T420 pairs to my headset with no problems, but won't detect this stupid mouse and I can't afford to replace it with a proper bluetooth mouse.
[17:00] <hggdh> gallomimia: there is virt-manager
[17:01] <hggdh> oh, LVM, not KVM
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> gallomimia: note on the lvpm, having just installed it, it does have some bugginess. It's interface is very close in appearance to other tools like gparted
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> gallomimia: KDE Partition Manager might be another option for you. Again, another KDE app, so it might have some extra dependencies
[17:14] <puroturo> pragmaticenigma, OerHeks: found a reference to it if you two are interested: https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/212 -- they refer to it as "backdrop", I was searching for "unfocused, inactive", etc. It's quite jarring and dramatic with yaru in some applications, but this is a pointer to the problem: https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/212
[17:14] <puroturo> Oops, apologies on the double paste of URL
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> puroturo: thanks for the follow up
[17:59] <arooni> does running systemctl suspend -i ; which effectively ignores any inhibitor locks prevent me from resuming the laptop?  i have it does.  also, is there anyway to duplicate the command that gets run when i shut my laptop lid?
[18:13]  * ncwz_hlu cant see me...
[18:15] <ncwz_hlu> guys, there's the #nuchwezi channel for those interested in talking ubuntu for projects in the subsaharan region and south Africa.
[18:16] <ncwz_hlu> there could be members of our community on here...
[18:20] <OerHeks> ncwz_hlu, please don't spam, thanks
[18:25] <mustmodify> I'm looking for a new Ubuntu laptop.
[18:26] <mustmodify> I'm concerned about all speed that might be lost from patches to Intel vulnerabilities... but am I correct in thinking Ryzen is the only alternative and doesn't play well with *nix?
[18:26] <lordcirth> mustmodify, the speed losses from those patches are quite small
[18:26] <lordcirth> However, Ryzen works fine on Linux
[18:27] <OerHeks> does ryzen play well with ubuntu ..
[18:27] <OerHeks> long way to ask that
[18:27] <shiroininja> yes. I'm on first gen ryzen and it works great
[18:27] <Ben64> same and same
[18:27] <mustmodify> @OerHeks I'm also open to being told that it isn't an issue. :)
[18:28] <mustmodify> Any vendor suggestions? I'm looking at either Dell or Lenovo right now.
[18:28] <leftyfb> mustmodify: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[18:28] <shiroininja> I'm afraid of what the fixes are going to do to my 2nd gen i5 laptop. it still runs great on linux, but I haven't done the intel updates yet
[18:30] <ncwz_hlu> OerHeks: wz out of good faith. x-)
[18:31] <lordcirth> shiroininja, I doubt you will notice a change
[18:31] <shiroininja> ok. I guess i'll update it tonight. I don't like running old software
[18:41] <Rojola> hi
[18:41] <Rojola> I just bought a new external hard drive for backups.
[18:42] <Rojola> What is the highest stadard and best practice when it comes to encryption?
[18:42] <Rojola> One thing that programming taught me, is, that encryption is way more complicated than I thought
[18:42] <Rojola> so I better want to ask the channel here first before I decide something wrong
[18:44] <lordcirth> Rojola, if you only need to mount it on Linux, LUKS is probably best.
[18:44] <lordcirth> If you need cross-platform, probably Veracrypt?
[18:44] <Rojola> lordcirth, well, so... I have not used Windows in a looooooooooong time
[18:44] <Rojola> lordcirth, but, Mac OS is something I am considering (Photoshop!)
[18:44] <Rojola> lordcirth, no there is a high chance that I need it to work on MacOS, too
[18:44] <coconut> mustmodify: i think thinkpads are a popular choice, although hard to get offline.
[18:45] <OerHeks> pretty the same as in 2012 .. cryptsetup https://www.howtogeek.com/115955/how-to-quickly-encrypt-removable-storage-devices-with-ubuntu/
[18:45] <Rojola> lordcirth, how much better is LUKS compared to Veracrypt?
[18:46] <mustmodify> leftyfb: thanks for the link.
[18:46] <mustmodify> coconut: yep, that's what I'm hearing over here.
[18:48] <lordcirth> Rojola, well, I think Veracrypt is a bit slower, and it doesn't seem to have a deb package provided, let alone one in the Ubuntu repos
[18:49] <leftyfb> I don't think Windows can decrypt LUKS
[18:50] <Rojola> leftyfb, it would be enough if MacOS could do it
[18:50] <Rojola> I am googling both techniques now
[18:50] <Rojola> thank you lordcirth !
[18:50] <Rojola> thank you leftyfb
[18:50] <lordcirth> Rojola, I don't think there's a good way to do that on OSX
[18:51] <lordcirth> Rojola, actually, if you are only going to use it for backups, there are also multi-platform backup tools that do encryption
[18:51] <lordcirth> Rojola, eg https://www.borgbackup.org/
[18:53] <Rojola> lordcirth, sorry for the late respone, I was googling
[18:53] <Rojola> thank you for the link!
[18:53] <Rojola> So, according to my research, LUKS will work best on linux
[18:54] <Rojola> I am not absoltely sure yet. as I found some links that seem to have more info
[18:54] <Rojola> but it does not look like LUKS was widely supported on other platforms but linux
[18:54] <lordcirth> Rojola, well, it is the Linux Unified Key System :P
[18:54] <Rojola> now, I am googling veracrypt
[18:55] <Rojola> lordcirth, yep, found out what the abbreviation stands for :)
[18:55] <Rojola> How does this look to you?
[18:55] <Rojola> https://kifarunix.com/how-to-install-and-use-veracrypt-to-encrypt-drives-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[18:55] <Rojola> They suggest a private repository
[18:55] <Rojola> encryption + private repository scares me
[18:56] <lordcirth> LUKS is certainly safer in that sense.
[18:56] <Rojola> ok... so... if I ever wanted to switch to an other OS
[18:56] <lordcirth> Rojola, if you want to easily toggle it, "tomb" is a script wrapper for LUKS that makes it easier
[18:57] <Rojola> I could still use vmware or the like and run linux
[18:57] <Rojola> lordcirth, please elaborate on your last message
[18:57] <Rojola> what would I want to "toggle" it?
[18:57] <jtcuth95> I cannot reinstall mariadb or mysql after a broken update. I keep getting dpkg errors
[18:57] <lordcirth> Rojola, to mount it only when you need to, easily move it between machines, etc.
[18:58] <jtcuth95> I've tried purging, autoclean, autoremove, etc
[18:58] <lordcirth> jtcuth95, can you pastebin your errors?
[18:58] <Rojola> lordcirth, I will google that, too!
[18:58] <Rojola> thank you!
[18:58] <lordcirth> Rojola, the Ubuntu package is just 'tomb'
[18:58] <Rojola> thank you lordcirth
[18:59] <jtcuth95> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N4jPtSY7rS/
[19:00] <lordcirth> jtcuth95, anything from apt, dpkg, or mysql in 'tail /var/log/syslog'?
[19:01] <jtcuth95> lordcirth not that I can see. Just python stuff
[19:03] <kenalex> hello
[19:03] <lordcirth> jtcuth95, look in /var/lib/dpkg/info, try to find the script that's failing, and run and/or read it
[19:03] <lordcirth> kenalex, hi
[19:04] <kenalex> is it possible to remote  desktop to ubuntu ?
[19:04] <kenalex> if it is what do I need to install to do this ?
[19:04] <jtcuth95> lordcirth there's a ton of scripts, what are some methods of isolating the script?
[19:06] <Rojola> lordcirth, I have read about tomb and I really, really don't understand its benefit
[19:07] <Rojola> lordcirth, so, we said I should use LUKS.
[19:07] <Rojola> lordcirth, What is tomb doing?!
[19:07] <Rojola> I know you answered that before, and I also read the docs, but it does not click
[19:07] <lordcirth> Rojola, tomb is just a wrapper that is easier to use than the cryptsetup tools
[19:09] <lordcirth> Rojola, especially if you want to store the encrypted data as a file rather than a whole partition
[19:11] <Rojola> lordcirth, should I save it as a single file!?
[19:12] <lordcirth> Rojola, If you have a dedicated drive for this, you don't need to. But it's very handy for some uses.
[19:12] <Rojola> I considered encrypting the entire hard drive
[19:12] <Rojola> it's 2 TB
[20:02] <Rojola> thank you lordcirth
[20:02] <Rojola> good night!
[20:20] <AvidWolf43> hi guys
[20:20] <AvidWolf43> can i use scp commands to copy files over to an sftp server?
[20:21] <gallomimia> generally yes
[20:21] <AvidWolf43> gallomimia: caveats?
[20:21] <gallomimia> scp and sftp are the same thing
[20:21] <tomreyn> they'r enot
[20:21] <gallomimia> assuming the sftp is implemented in the "normal" way, you shouldn't have any troubles
[20:22] <gallomimia> not to be confused with ftps
[20:22] <leftyfb> AvidWolf43: did you try it?
[20:23] <AvidWolf43> not yet, im just working on architecting a solution in big infra with many moving parts
[20:23] <AvidWolf43> only way i can access said server is via sftp, so trying to plan out if I can write my for statement as if I were doing scp
[20:24] <leftyfb> try it
[20:25] <AvidWolf43> was trying to avoid spinning up a vm since networking here is pretty restricted, so I was hoping someone would have already ... but good point ill spin something up and try
[20:26] <gallomimia> so yeah. in general it works, but its places like big infra where you run into restrictive security measures that make it more difficult
[20:35] <mikubuntu> help! just did updates to my lub 19.04 and it seems to have broken firefox. sites just won't connect -- i opened brave just now to access channel. wonder what could have gone wrong?
[20:37] <mikubuntu> just checked and opera not connecting either.
[20:58] <mikubuntu> help! just did updates to my lub 19.04 and it seems to have broken firefox. sites just won't connect -- i opened brave just now to access channel. wonder what could have gone wrong?
[21:03] <leftyfb> !repeat | mikubuntu
[21:10] <jacobRD23> Good afternoon from Las Vegas.
[21:14] <lone-pine> How do I change the login background?
[21:20] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, remove the ~/.mozilla folder and try again? you would loose all plugins and settings
[21:21] <OerHeks> lone-pine, login background, the only option is lock-screen background in systemsettings
[21:21] <OerHeks> same in gnome-tweak tool
[21:23] <OerHeks> login tweak  /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/ubuntu.css  , see #2 https://vitux.com/8-ways-to-customize-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[21:23] <lone-pine> I changed it but it's still the same image, I think I switched to lightdm so maybe it's a different configuration, and now I switched to nodm and got dumped into a GUI root login with no dm
[21:23] <lone-pine> guess it's in the name
[21:24] <OerHeks> oh, not worthy to tell with your question
[21:24] <OerHeks> richt
[21:25] <urgodfather> hello all, anyone in here use vbox?
[21:27] <leftyfb> urgodfather: That is not a valid support question. Try explaining the issue you're running into instead.
[21:28] <urgodfather> good point leftyfb i carried it over to offtopic just in case
[21:28] <leftyfb> urgodfather: crossposting is frowned upon in general
[21:30] <lone-pine> Okay, now I'm in gdm3, I have no background, just a purple color which I dislike, but more importantly I can't choose i3wm... where can I get a list of reasonable display managers so I can figure out which one is right for me?
[21:30] <urgodfather> so is unsupported issues. not sure where the problem lies. host= osx guest=18LTS increased size of vdi, when i boot guest it does not reflect.
[21:34] <urgodfather> not sure if its a vbox issue b/c vbox shows the vdi being new size... or if its a guest issue b/c it doesnt reflect. tried booting live and same result
[21:40] <rfm> urgodfather, you need to repartition and grow the file system, I suspect.  boot live cd and use gparted
[21:41] <urgodfather> rfm tried. doesnt show the increase
[21:41] <urgodfather> thats why im scratching my head
[21:43] <jacobRD23> Good afternoon
[22:21] <dusan1134> pp
[22:23] <lone-pine> I don't have 3D acceleration on my machine, it's a brand new nvidia card, it comes up in lspci but sudo ubuntu-drivers devices returns nothing, not even an error message
[22:25] <gallomimia> um. hey. hi. hello. i'm trying to use audio output to the monitor, thru displayport/hdmi on my graphics card
[22:25] <gallomimia> the device does not show up in sound menu... how can i remedy?
[22:26] <xamithan> Do you have the driver installed?
[22:27] <gallomimia> yes, it seems to function well. normal nvidia from the ppa
[22:28] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: sorry, got way-laid. so if i delete that mozilla file do i have to replace it with anything? can you give me a command to delete with?
[22:29] <xamithan> Hmm,  maybe you didn't have the monitor connected and on when you started the computer?  Could maybe do a pulseaudio -k or an alsa reload
[22:29] <reepca-laptop> I want to play sound from the speakers of an ubuntu system I'm ssh'ed into. speaker-test, mpv, and mplayer are all silent. 'pact list short sinks' shows only the null sink. 'aplay -l' says 'aplay: device_list:270: no soundcards found...'. On 18.04.1. What do?
[22:30] <gallomimia> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[22:30] <gallomimia> wut? so its not running?
[22:31] <gallomimia> i get sound if i plug in headphones
[22:32] <lone-pine> Is there no troubleshooting information on 3d acceleration in ubuntu anymore? I can't find anything through google
[22:32] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, just delete it, and restart firefox, the folder will be recreated
[22:34] <xamithan> The only troubleshooting information for 3d acceleration is to install a graphics driver appropriate for your video card
[22:34] <xamithan> Unless you meant for something less generic
[22:35] <sarnold> mikubuntu: is this your bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1830096
[22:35] <lone-pine> xamithan, how do I do that? Isn't it automatic?
[22:37] <OerHeks> lone-pine, what is your nvidia card, lspci line?
[22:37] <sarnold> reepca-laptop: audio is usually allowed for whoever is sitting at the machine via udev or systemd logind rules or something similar
[22:37] <xamithan> It will do the open one automatic.  You can look under software & updates > additional drivers
[22:37] <sarnold> reepca-laptop: try adding your login account to the audio group, login again, and give it a shot
[22:37] <OerHeks> some work with blacklisting nouveau, or nomodeset
[22:38] <lone-pine> OerHeks, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU107 (rev a1)
[22:39] <xamithan> That's the new CUDA one?  You likely need the driver from nvidia
[22:39] <lone-pine> xamithan, Additional Drivers says "No additional drivers available"
[22:40] <OerHeks> that needs the 415 and up, https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/141512/en-us
[22:40] <xamithan> Yeah it's too new
[22:40] <OerHeks> see drivers ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:42] <OerHeks> 19.04 should be oke, newer mesa and such
[22:46] <mikubuntu> sarnold: i don't think that's it, i don't know .. OerHeks i don't know what command to use to delete?
[22:46] <lone-pine> I can't add the ppa, something about security and lack of a release file
[22:48] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: strange, i just checked and opera not loading pages either. so i'm on brave, and i thought it was a ff derivative and it's working fine, i don't know what could be gumming up the works in ff or opera.
[22:49] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: maybe the simplest thing is to uninstall ff and opera?
[22:49] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: uninstall and reinstall i mean
[22:49] <reepca-laptop> sarnold: ensured my user is a member of both pulse-access and audio groups and relogged. Still get silence from speaker-test, though aplay -l now does list the sound card properly.
[22:50] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, that would not delete ./mozilla
[22:50] <puppetmasterFPU> OerHeks: if you remove/reinstall remember to remove their profile directories before reinstallation
[22:50] <OerHeks> and what command? do it from the filemanager?
[22:50] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: can you ping google.com from a terminal?
[22:51] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: i can if you give me a command to copy / paste .. lol
[22:51] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: really?    ping google.com
[22:52] <sarnold> reepca-laptop: iirc alsa comes up muted by default -- are you sure it's unmuted?
[22:53] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: still pinging
[22:53] <reepca-laptop> sarnold: I'm not sure what you mean. The world of linux audio is pretty foreign to me.
[22:54] <sarnold> reepca-laptop: try checking alsamixer -- you might see some muted channels, or volumes turned down
[22:54] <puppetmasterFPU> mikubuntu: it will continue to ping until you stop it
[22:55] <puppetmasterFPU> ctrl+c to break the ping process
[22:55] <mikubuntu> puppetmasterFPU: so what output am i looking for?
[22:55] <puppetmasterFPU> no idea. i never suggested you ping
[22:55] <puppetmasterFPU> that was leftyfb suggestion
[22:56] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: what output am i looking for with that google ping?
[22:57] <truexfan81> how well does ubuntu handle release upgrades? for example if i install 1904 and then later want to upgraded to 1910 or 20o4 how likely is it to break during or immediately after the upgrade?
[22:57] <puppetmasterFPU> truexfan81: unlikely to break. always a possibility, but usually upgrades are carried out pretty smoothly
[22:58] <puppetmasterFPU> at least in my experience
[22:58] <truexfan81> even when using nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <OerHeks> truexfan81, unlikely, 3rd party stuff will be disabled
[22:58] <puppetmasterFPU> still, i always recommend a fresh install of any os upgrade
[22:58] <truexfan81> i'm running an RTX 2060 so i don't expect xorg to work at all without the drivers
[22:59] <OerHeks> always prepare an iso on USB. before upgrading
[22:59] <Bashing-om> truexfan81: You will want to revert the Nvidia driver back to nouveau :)
[22:59] <reepca-laptop> sarnold: alsamixer has everything unmuted now, still get silence
[22:59] <xamithan> Depends on what you install,  sometimes graphics break,  sometimes PPAs
[22:59] <sarnold> reepca-laptop: dang. sorry, that was it :(
[23:00] <truexfan81> well i have a macrium reflect free usb i boot to, to make backup images, so i suppose if it breaks i could just boot to that and restore it back to where it was right before i gave it the upgrade command
[23:00] <sarnold> truexfan81: I've had dozens of upgrades go smoothly, one went poorly.
[23:00] <sarnold> truexfan81: backups are always a good idea of course
[23:01] <puppetmasterFPU> each user system is different. it depends on how much custom stuff you've done since original install
[23:01] <truexfan81> and that is also why i prefer to upgrade vs a clean install, i would make a new backup image right before doing the upgrade
[23:01] <truexfan81> so if it breaks all i really loose is the few minutes it takes it to restore the backup from the backup hdd to the ssd
[23:03] <puppetmasterFPU> truexfan81: thumbs up
[23:16] <swashdev> Hey.  I'm running 19.04 disco.  I can't upgrade any packages because libreoffice-common has broken dependencies.  I also can't remove libreoffice because libreoffice-common has broken dependencies.  Running `sudo apt-get --fix-broken install` gives this result: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mC3mPFJXTT/.  I'm trying to futz with my package manager settings by disabling third-party sources, but...
[23:16] <swashdev> ...it doesn't seem to do any good.  Does anyone else know how I could fix it?
[23:17] <sarnold> operation not permitted?? that's really crazy. check dmesg? maybe you've got errors written there
[23:18] <swashdev> oh boy, there's a lot here.  What am I looking for specifically?
[23:19] <swashdev> oh, okay, I have a segfault in apt
[23:20] <sarnold> segfaults, block device errors.. filesystem errors
[23:20] <swashdev> [ 8229.345856] apt[10634]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fcb08ec911b sp 00007ffd68bcfc90 error 4 in libc-2.29.so[7fcb08e6c000+173000]
[23:22] <Bashing-om> !info libreoffice-common disco | swashdev
[23:23] <OerHeks> remove, purge, autoclean, and reinstall
[23:23] <sarnold> I wouldn't touch it just yet
[23:24] <swashdev> apt won't remove it.  libreoffice-common has broken dependencies.
[23:24] <sarnold> depending upon what else is in dmesg, it might be worth rebooting and running memtest86, or smartctl, or fsck
[23:26]  * xeu is away, not here (l!on) : os/bx
[23:28] <gallomimia> !info libreoffice-common disco | gallomimia
[23:28] <gallomimia> doesn't seem helpful
[23:28] <sarnold> indeed it isn't in this case
[23:29] <gallomimia> swashdev, it seems like you need to dpkg --fix...something
[23:29] <gallomimia> i forget the full command
[23:29] <gallomimia> is it... --reconfigure ?
[23:29] <tomreyn> swashdev: this is how you can share your system log with us:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:29] <sarnold> getting past this error is probably as easy as running mkdir -p /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg/ /var/lib/libreoffice/program/ and then re-running the command
[23:30] <sarnold> BUT it's better to wait until we've got a better idea of the state of the filesystem and memory
[23:34] <swashdev> okay, I'll reboot and run fsck.  I don't need to pipe any output to a log file, do I?
[23:37] <tomreyn> swashdev: "pipe output to a log file"? what do you mean there?
[23:38] <swashdev> Is fsck going to output anything that I should be copying to a file?
[23:43] <tomreyn> swashdev: depends on how you do the fsck. to write to a file you'll need to have a writable filesystem.
[23:43] <tomreyn> another option can be to take digital photos and upload them later.
[23:43] <swashdev> Well I haven't had any particular problems with the filesystem as far as I know.
[23:44] <sarnold> swashdev: how many sigsegvs were in dmesg?
[23:44] <swashdev> Just the one I pasted before.
[23:44] <swashdev> The only other error I saw was a complaint that trying to change the LED brightness in the keyboard failed, which isn't a surprise because my keyboard doesn't have LEDs in it.
[23:44] <sarnold> alright. maybe that's not too bad. do consider the memtest86 if you'll have a day when you don't need your machine
[23:45] <sarnold> haha
[23:45] <swashdev> Well, the old system's overdue for a checkup anyway, so I might as well let that go during my day off tomorrow.
[23:45] <jacobRD23> Hello, everyone. I'm new to this chat room here, but I'm not new to Linux in general.
[23:46] <sarnold> swashdev: nice :)
[23:46] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1685984
[23:46] <tomreyn> "Disabling sophos antivitus has fixed the problem for me."
[23:46] <sarnold> tomreyn: you're *good* :)
[23:47] <swashdev> sophos?  Interesting.
[23:47] <tomreyn> i can google.
[23:47] <sarnold> the different AV vendors do various amounts of scary things to provide live transparent checking
[23:47] <tomreyn> swashdev: so do you have anti-virus software installed there?
[23:47] <xamithan> antivitus always screwing things up
[23:47] <swashdev> I have savscan
[23:48] <swashdev> I was looking at sophos a few months ago but I don't remember downloading it
[23:48] <swashdev> I'll investigate that
[23:48] <swashdev> oh, derp, they're the same thing
[23:48] <tomreyn> sudo /opt/sophos-av/bin/savdctl disable   # to disable real-time checks temporarily
[23:49] <swashdev> thank you, I'll give that a go
[23:53] <swashdev> tomreyn, looks like that fixed it.  thank you.
[23:54] <Bashing-om> !cookie | tomreyn
[23:54] <tomreyn> swashdev: please consider sending a readers' letter titled "I love you." to your AV vendor.
[23:55] <swashdev> I'll do that.
[23:55] <sarnold> :D
[23:55] <tomreyn> i'm on a diet, will pass the cookie to ubottu.
[23:55] <tomreyn> !botsnack
[23:56] <swashdev> Wellp, time to hop off and eat.