[00:04] <monkeystance> which package manager uses yum?
[00:04] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: sorry, I had to step away. Can you copy/paste the output to ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste the URL for it here?
[00:04] <monkeystance> is that redhat/fedora's one?
[00:04] <leftyfb> monkeystance: yes
[00:06] <kk4ewt> fedora uses dnf now
[00:07] <dax> yeah but then the joke doesn't work
[00:11] <Gerowen> What does "unattended-upgrades" do by default with new versions of configuration files?  When I dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades , the only option it asks me about is whether to enable or disable the feature as a whole.
[00:12] <jacobRD23> I was AFK; I didn't get the msg
[00:13] <leftyfb> !who | jacobRD23
[00:14] <jacobRD23> !who
[00:15] <jacobRD23> !tab
[00:17] <tomreyn> jacobRD23: you wrote "I was AFK; I didn't get the msg", which suggests that you're responding to someoene who contacted you here on this #ubuntu channel before. lefty noticed this and asked our channel bot 'ubottu' to tell you that if you're responding to someone in particular, you should always prefix your response using their nickname.
[00:22] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tHSC6g9vzT/
[00:23] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: ok, so it's not a networking issue
[00:23] <tomreyn> Gerowen: i'm not 100% certain there, but i think that if a configuration file it encounters was manually edited, it would keep the edited file in place, adding another file ${filename}.dpkg-new
[00:23] <leftyfb> mikecmpbll: what happens when you try to go to google.com with firefox?
[00:23] <mikecmpbll> idk, aint tried it
[00:23] <mikecmpbll> ;)
[00:24] <leftyfb> mikecmpbll: ok, so you know your next step
[00:25] <sarnold> leftyfb: do note there's three people in here with 'mik' nicks :) perhaps it's just tab-misfire ;)
[00:25] <leftyfb> ugh
[00:26] <leftyfb> mikubuntu:  what happens when you try to go to google.com with firefox?
[00:26] <mikecmpbll> :P
[00:30] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: progress indicator just goes around and around and never renders page
[00:30] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: in a terminal, try:  curl google.com
[00:32] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: installing curl .. lol
[00:33] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: if you can install curl, that tells me that http traffic works
[00:34] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: have you tried moving your ~/.mozilla directory with all your user settings out of the way to see if it helps?
[00:35] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WWrytFgBmR/
[00:35] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla
[00:35] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: Also, close firefox first
[00:36] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: ok gimme sec
[00:40] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: ok, ff is working again, i wonder if opera will
[00:41] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: nope, opera still not connecting just like ff wasn't
[00:42] <Gerowen> tomreyn: That seems to be what I've found online.  Right now I'm browsing the 50unattended-upgrades config file and checking out what options are in here.
[00:42] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: how did you install opera?
[00:43] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: can't remember it's been so long
[00:44] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: snap list | grep opera
[00:44] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: run that in a terminal. Does it give a result?
[00:45] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: no output, just went back to prompt
[00:46] <sarnold> try snap find opera
[00:46] <leftyfb> sarnold: I know opera is available in snap. That's not what I was looking for
[00:46] <sarnold> leftyfb: ah! I see. :)
[00:47] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: ok, unfortunately, opera is not part of ubuntu repositories so it's unsupported here. You can maybe google around for where opera stores it's settings and wipe them
[00:48] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: okey dokes thx for help with ff
[00:48] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: it might be ~/.opera or ~/.Opera
[00:49] <mikubuntu> leftyfb: sokay, i wouldn't know how to determine that and it's not a mission critical issue here at mission control .. lol
[00:50] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: ls -ald ~/.[o,O]pera
[01:03] <Oderus> hi. id like to install a package that is not in the default repository, but it has many dependancies that i don't want to go through manually. is there a repo i could add to get this? https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/libgtk-3-dev
[01:03] <CodeMouse92> Oderus: Are you *running* Disco? That's my first question
[01:03] <Oderus> yes
[01:05] <CodeMouse92> !info libgtk-3-dev disco
[01:05] <CodeMouse92> Oderus: Is that what you're wanting? ^^
[01:06] <Oderus> yes! i am not sure why i can't find it in my repos
[01:06] <CodeMouse92> Oderus: Did you run 'sudo apt update' first?
[01:06] <CodeMouse92> Otherwise, apt won't be able to see *anything*
[01:06] <zdorovo> I'm selling my old laptop and I want to erase all my data from it and install a fresh copy of ubuntu. I did this by plugging in the live usb, running sudo shred /dev/sda, and running the installer. However, the installer is throwing an error as soon as it tries to write to disk. Did I brick my harddrive?
[01:06] <Oderus> CodeMouse92: i don't know what my problem is but i did now find it.. it is installing /blush
[01:07] <CodeMouse92> zdorovo: You can't really "brick" a hard drive, unless you physically kill it. You can try using Gparted to recreate your partition table and go from there (off the top of my head)
[01:07] <CodeMouse92> Oderus: Bravo! When in doubt, `sudo apt update` first, and then try `sudo apt search whatever-package-name`
[01:08] <leftyfb> zdorovo: what sort of errors?
[01:08] <leftyfb> zdorovo: can you screenshot or pastebin?
[01:10] <Oderus> CodeMouse92: thank you. now to try and figure out why cmake is giving me errors :3
[01:11] <CodeMouse92> Oderus: If that's C/C++ related, Q probably better suited for a programming channel (e.g. ##c++-friendly or #learnprogramming)
[01:11] <CodeMouse92> (P.S. I'm in both)
[01:12] <zdorovo> leftyfb: here's a photo: https://imgur.com/a/sZ04bGR
[01:13] <zdorovo> CodeMouse92: hmmm, I thought the installer made a partition table for you?
[01:13] <leftyfb> zdorovo: open a terminal and type: dmesg   # see if there's any errors there and with which device
[01:13] <CodeMouse92> zdorovo: not necessarily.
[01:13] <CodeMouse92> zdorovo: Is that an HDD or a SSD?
[01:13] <leftyfb> zdorovo: it does. There's no need to check partition tables
[01:13] <Oderus> CodeMouse92: ok great thanks. I am not necessarily a programmer, just trying to compile an old package heh
[01:13] <zdorovo> CodeMouse92: it's an HDD
[01:13] <tomreyn> zdorovo: just a hint for later (obviously need to solve the write issues first), consider this for a full wipe (read all the warnings): https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
[01:14] <zdorovo> tomreyn: gotcha, thanks!
[01:14] <coz_> tomreyn, is Dban considerably safe?
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> zdorovo: Def look for dmesg errors, like leftyfb said. From the live environment, however, you can also run a SMART test with `sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sda` (replace /dev/sda with the device name of the hard drive)
[01:15] <leftyfb> yes, though it takes a toll on SSD's. As will any "wipe" tools
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> You may need to install the `smartmontools` package first
[01:15] <leftyfb> CodeMouse92: there's a "disks" util in the live cd that runs SMART tests
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> leftyfb: Yes, I know, but the output isn't nearly as useful. (I've used both in the field)
[01:17] <zdorovo> leftyfb: CodeMouse92: here's the output from dmesg https://pastebin.com/6hHwngcm
[01:17] <OerHeks> zdorovo, after shred, did you boot into live and made a new partition table mbr or GPT? the installer will find none..
[01:18] <leftyfb> zdorovo: I take it that is the output from booting into a fresh live session? Not from the same session where you tried to install? I see no drive errors in that output
[01:20] <zdorovo> leftyfb: hmm, I don't think it's a fresh live session, though it was a couple days ago that I tried installing ubuntu. I'll try installing again and post fresh output from dmesg
[01:20] <leftyfb> zdorovo: ok, then I'm guessing it might be your install media/memory issue
[01:20] <Randolf> Webcamoid, installed via apt, results in a Segmentation Fault when I try to use it.
[01:21] <Randolf> Is anyone using Webcamoid?
[01:21] <tomreyn> coz_: supposedly yes (but that's rather off-topic here, maybe try ##linux). personally, if i ever have to pass a storage containing unencrypted data (i use full disk encryption from the first write whereever possible) over to anyone whom i don't want to share the data with, i'd always both null via software and (if the drive states to support it) do ATA SE also.
[01:24] <zdorovo> leftyfb: ok, the new dmesg output is at pastebin.com/y2yMhcYT
[01:24] <coz_> tom oh sorry I saw your post for secure wipe or delete
[01:24] <zdorovo> at the end of that paste, it looks like there's an error reading form the usb...
[01:25] <bn_work> hi, if I want to add a sudoers entry to allow user A to sudo -u as  user B to run a set of shell scripts under several dirs that fall under a common parent, where each shell script take java -D params which invoke a java app, do I need to white list the shell script(s), ie: /foo/bar/mysh * ?  or /usr/bin/java * ?  or both?
[01:25] <sarnold> zdorovo: also around line 1132
[01:26] <leftyfb> zdorovo: that's exactly it. SQUASHFS error. That's the live filesystem
[01:26] <bn_work> (man page for sudoers doesn't really specify and yes, edit it visudo :) )
[01:26] <bn_work> s/edit it/edit it with/
[01:26] <leftyfb> zdorovo: it's either the USB or memory
[01:26] <sarnold> my guess is usb
[01:27] <zdorovo> leftyfb: hmmmm ok. Maybe I should rewrite the ISO onto the USB stick?
[01:27] <leftyfb> zdorovo: you can try
[01:27] <sarnold> I'd also guess that memory stick is likely at the end of its useful life
[01:28] <zdorovo> sarnold: It's brand new though :( unless Staples sold me a faulty USB stick....
[01:28] <sarnold> zdorovo: hrm. double-check the iso checksum?
[01:28] <bn_work> sudoers 1.8.16
[01:29] <sarnold> bn_work: just the scripts, not the things the scripts call
[01:30] <zdorovo> sarnold: the md5sum is good
[01:31] <bn_work> sarnold: thanks, do I need to do anything once I create my entry?  ie: restart or SIGHUP some service?
[01:31] <sarnold> bn_work: no, sudo will reread the file on every use
[01:31] <bn_work> sarnold: or does it immediately take effect?
[01:31] <_Random_> need some hardware(Gpu) help, my display keeps crashing. I get white screen with  lines on it. pc unusable when this happens, still under warrantty
[01:31] <_Random_> It's just happend again
[01:31] <sarnold> zdorovo: hrm. I guess try re-writing it, but it might just be a bad stick :/
[01:32] <_Random_> I've ssh into the pc. I'd like to look at  my logs & see what errors there are. Not sure what to look for & what commands to use
[01:33] <sarnold> _Random_: dmesg, /var/log/X* -- there might be others, but I've only ever had intel graphics..
[01:33] <_Random_> thanks sarnold: :)
[01:33] <tomreyn> Randolf: see bug 1766143, bug 1654618
[01:34] <user01> hi is there a way to play an audio file on my laptop so that it streams to my linux computer across the room which is attached to speakers?
[01:34] <bn_work> sarnold: thanks.  is there a way to build off environment vars when specifying a fully-qualified path to the script?
[01:34] <user01> kinda like a chromecast i guess via wifi
[01:34] <sarnold> bn_work: my guess is no; that'd probably be able to be abused somehow
[01:37] <user01> might have found something: https://superuser.com/questions/432894/pipe-system-sound-to-another-computer
[01:39] <bn_work> sarnold: what about brace expansion to specify various names, ie: /path/to/bin/{foo,bar} ?
[01:39] <sarnold> user01: oh nice. I'd always heard that was the motivating factor behind pulseaudio but never seen anyone document how to do it. I wasn't sure it ever got written
[01:39] <sarnold> bn_work: I don't think sudo supports alternations
[01:40] <user01> sarnold, yeah i would think that would be the whole point of needing a pulse layer would be to do clever things like that
[01:41] <sarnold> user01: well, apparently alsa doesn't do multiplexing as well as one would like..
[01:41] <tomreyn> zdorovo: balena etcher (etcher.io, there's also an apt repository, ask me for details if interested, since it's badly documented) is a cross-platform GUI application which writes creates bootable sticks from iso files, and does a verification run (to ensure data was written properly).
[01:43] <bn_work> tomreyn: that is the largest app I've seen just to format a USB stick,  a 200MB abomination of an electron (+ node JS) app, but hey at least it looks pretty :)
[01:44] <Randolf> Thanks tomreyn, I'll take a look at those now.
[01:45] <tomreyn> zdorovo: "f3" (apt install f3) helps you test that a flash stick is not reporting a different capacity than it physically has
[01:47] <tomreyn> bn_work: i'm not a fan of electron either, but it seems to work reliably (can't say that about most other GUI utilities doing this sadly) and does a verification run, and works cross-platform. so it can be worth the 200 MB.
[01:47] <tomreyn> if you have a good alternative covering all of this, i'll be all ears.
[01:48] <Randolf> Hmm, looks like Qt5 issues are a bit of a problem with webcamoid.  According to something I read on GitHub there's an 8.5 version that resolves all of this, but apt only provides 8.1.
[01:49] <sarnold> I have to imagine it'd be a few hundred lines of C or rust ..
[01:49] <_Random_> http://dpaste.com/3FTBXEC
[01:49] <bn_work> tomreyn: yeah, cross platform is nice, it's fairly simplistic in how it formats though, ie: only one partition per stick and it will clobber any existing partition(s) on it I believe
[01:50] <tomreyn> !who | _Random_
[01:51] <_Random_> I'm not much of a techie, I don't know how to identify a hardware fault,
[01:52] <sarnold> _Random_: what does sudo canonical-livepatch status report?
 I susspect its hardware as it also occurs in windows.. use your warranty
[01:52] <sarnold> _Random_: oh, I forgot, this is the gpu issue..
[01:52] <sarnold> _Random_: maybe it's worth skipping livepatch configuration for now :)
[01:53] <_Random_> sarnold: tahsnks, not sure what you mean about livepatch
[01:54] <tomreyn> bn_work: we could continue this in #ubuntu-discuss for a bit if you like
[01:54] <_Random_> patchState: nothing-to-apply
[01:54] <sarnold> _Random_: that was just something I saw in your paste and I assumed you wanted it solved :)
[01:54] <_Random_> thanks sarnold;
[01:55] <tomreyn> _Random_: can you get us some basic information on your system?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[01:56] <tomreyn> anything after the first question mark is a command you can copy and paste to your terminal. it should return a http address you can then post here
[01:56] <bn_work> tomreyn: I don't much else to add but sure, sorry, got a bit OT there :)
[01:56] <_Random_> tomreyn:  thanks
[01:56] <bn_work> sarnold: thanks for the sudoers tips
[01:57] <_Random_> is that 1 command
[01:57] <tomreyn> you can copy this as a single line, yes
[01:57] <_Random_> https://termbin.com/iedk
[02:01] <tomreyn> _Random_: thanks. did you see the message ubottu wrote earlier? it's our channel bot  which tried to tell you about addressing others so they don't miss your replies.
[02:02] <_Random_> i missed that
[02:02] <tomreyn> _Random_: here's the next command, a smaller one - to learn about your graphics hardware:   lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:02] <_Random_> tomreyn: thanks
[02:03] <_Random_> tomreyn: thanks https://termbin.com/i78n
[02:04] <tomreyn> hmm that's just intel graphics, so sarnold can help, too ;)
[02:05] <tomreyn> _Random_: you're not the first one to experience issues with this hardware and this kernel. i'll have to find the bug report, but i think it was not handled, yet
[02:05] <tomreyn> _Random_: a likely workaround is !hwe
[02:06] <_Random_> thanks..
[02:06] <tomreyn> !hwe | _Random_
[02:08] <_Random_> tomreyn: installing
[02:08] <zdorovo> hi everyone, putting a fresh copy of the iso on the USB stick seems to have done the trick. Thanks for all your help!!!
[02:09] <tomreyn> _Random_: be sure to install both the linux and xorg package. also, can you share your system log to better analyze this error?   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:10] <tomreyn> zdorovo: glad you solved it!
[02:10] <_Random_> just installed & rebooting via ssh
[02:11] <_Random_> thanks tomreyn: Ill log back into the laptop &come back here while on  the laptop
[02:12] <tomreyn> ok
[02:12] <gehn> I tend to install latest versions of a few things, for example cmake, usually by hand by downloading binaries and just unzipping them and adding the resulting dir (or */bin dir) to my $PATH, is there a better way? like a package manager other than apt for things that aren't in standard ubuntu repos?
[02:12] <gehn> there are apt repos for some things, like the ubuntu toolchain ppa for newer versions of GCC for example, but I don't think cmake has a ppa or an apt repo
[02:13] <gehn> cmake is only one example of about a dozen various things like this that I use
[02:14] <tomreyn> if there are no usable PPAs, a newer ubuntu release may help, or a chroot (or container, or VM) with a newer ubuntu release may help.
[02:14] <tomreyn> gehn: ^
[02:14] <gehn> cmake release far more often than new ubuntu releases
[02:15] <gehn> also I chose ubuntu over Arch specifically because I prefer to usually stay on LTS for a while as upgrades tend to be time consuming
[02:15] <tomreyn> there also !snap for such use cases, but i suspect there are no snaps for software development tools like cmake.
[02:15] <gehn> and I like (mostly) stable versions of many things
[02:17] <tomreyn> so containers are probably a good match.
[02:17] <Mystified1234> tomreyn: thanks this is random.  Ive installed both pkgs..
[02:18] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: and did it help?
[02:18] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: you installed them and rebooted, right?
[02:18] <gehn> I'm not going to run a container just for a new version of cmake
[02:18] <gehn> it's about a million times easier to just download the zip manually as I mentioned before
[02:19] <gehn> but it's still a bit annoying and time consuming
[02:19] <tomreyn> maybe you need automation
[02:19] <Mystified1234> tomreyn: it's booted, as per normal, it can crash at any time..
[02:19] <gehn> I could probably automate it myself, but it's probably not worth it to me to use my time to do so
[02:19] <gehn> then I have to maintain what I automate
[02:19] <Mystified1234> tomreyn: 4.18.0-20-generic #21~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 8 08:43:37 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:19] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: here's the command to share your log from last but one boot:  journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:23] <sscout> where can I ask about ubuntu 14 lts? trying to get wifi working on an old laptop
[02:24] <Bashing-om> !14.04 | sscout
[02:24] <leftyfb> sscout: install 18.04
[02:25] <sscout> that laptop won't run 18.04 I think, it had a bunch of errors just loading 14.04 live
[02:25] <Bashing-om> sscout: Repos will no longer exist ,,, no help for what has reached End_Of_Life :(
[02:26] <leftyfb> sscout: try 18.04, if you have problems, come here and we'll help you with it
[02:27] <sscout> hmm, I'm trying to get a broadcom wifi card recognized, askubuntu answers all talk about 10-16
[02:27] <leftyfb> sscout: 14.04 is end of life. It's not supported anymore. Try 18.04
[02:28] <sscout> ok, ty
[02:33] <Mystified1234> tomreyn:  or
[02:34] <Mystified1234> if anyone else can help it eould be appreciated
[02:34] <Mystified1234> https://dpaste.de/PYNv
[02:35] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: hmm i'm getting a timeout on dpaste
[02:37] <tomreyn> ok, got it now. plenty of log spam there.
[02:37] <Mystified1234> thanks tomreyn: i'm not sure what taht means, I'm no techie
[02:39] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: there are no errors that i can find reagrding your failing graphical display. maybe i'm not looking for the right things.
[02:40] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: you might want this newer laptop /mainboard firmware https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/YOGA-SERIES/YOGA-520-14IKB-TYPE-81C8/downloads/DS121264   right now you have BIOS 4QCN48WW(V2.12) 11/23/2018
[02:45] <activist> I am switching Download mode but fastboot not working. It stuck at "waiting for device" step. Tried on Ubuntu and Windows but no luck.
[02:46] <Mystified1234> tomreyn: thanks will install.. what I really want is to take the laptop back & for replacement or repair but with hard evidence that there is a fault.
[02:47] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: since i can't spot it on the logs, a hardware fault may be possible. did you run a memory test and cpu burn in test, yet?
[02:47] <Mystified1234> tomreyn: no
[02:48] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[02:48] <Mystified1234> again thanks: :)))))))))
[02:50] <tomreyn> Mystified1234: for CPU: https://askubuntu.com/questions/948854/how-do-i-stress-test-cpu-and-ram-at-the-same-time/948865 https://askubuntu.com/questions/948854/how-do-i-stress-test-cpu-and-ram-at-the-same-time/948865
[02:52] <Mystified1234> about to boot into windows & install the new bios
[02:52] <Mystified1234> tomreyn:  Thank you !
[02:52] <tomreyn> there's also phoronix test suite which simulates different workloads for testing
[02:52] <tomreyn> you're welcome, Mystified1234
[02:53]  * tomreyn zzz
[03:55] <_Random_> hi guys back again..
[03:56] <_Random_> I updated my bios on my pc, windows boots only.. so disabled secure boot & fast boot in bios.. i have grub, but i drop back to initramfs..
[03:56] <_Random_> the same happens with the use of super grubdisk 2.
[03:57] <_Random_> i have trie dgoing into ubuntu recovery
[03:57] <_Random_> 4.18.20 &4.18.50
[03:57] <_Random_> end back at the same spot
[04:08] <mr_lou> Morning
[04:08] <mr_lou> blackflow, After lots of searching, I have come to the conclusion that my harddisk issue is an Ubuntu issue. So many online posts can't be wrong. It's a well known bug that has existed for ages.
[04:11] <Randolf> mr_lou: What are the symptoms?  (I'm curious to know if I'm experiencing it too.)
[04:12] <_Random_> hi guys, I have nvme disk, after upgrading bios. reset bios removed secure boot & fast boot, I'm back at grub, & fail to boot ubuntu, regardless if i'm in recovery or normall start, i drop to shell with initramfs
[04:12] <_Random_>  missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
[04:13] <_Random_> i treied super grubdis to boot the os, same occurs with that
[04:13] <_Random_> blkid does not show any drive, obviously because I have nvme dride
[04:13] <_Random_> blkid does not show any drive, obviously because I have nvme drive
[04:17] <mr_lou> Hi Randolf. In this particular case, it's simply slow transfer speeds to an external USB device. Starts off fine, but then drops to insanely low speeds, like 1,5 mbps.
[04:17] <mr_lou> Randolf, The same device works fine on Windows, maintains a high transfer speed.
[04:17] <mr_lou> Randolf, There's like a million posts about this issue on various forums online.
[04:19] <mr_lou> Randolf, It seems to be related to SSD / SD card / flash memory (in my case), while mechanical USB drives seems to work faster for some reason.
[04:21] <mr_lou> https://lwn.net/Articles/682582/
[04:39] <Alpha-Omega> Is there a way to create a manual LVM on a disk with Ubuntu 18.04.2 Desktop installer?
[04:40] <Alpha-Omega> I don't see any option for LVM.
[04:42] <bindi> think you need the alternate installer for that
[04:43] <bindi> well, not sure about desktop
[04:45] <Alpha-Omega> bindi: Makes no sense that they provide an option for LVM for wiping one of the disks, but you can't even select which disk, and if you do manual, won't give you the option...
[04:46] <bindi> i just know that 18.04 server installer required the alternate installer for lvm :p
[05:03] <Alpha-Omega> bindi: I ended up creating it with gparted and LVM commands. If there is the ability to do it with the tools, why not provide the option... Not very inuitive for a user-friendly distro. Not to hate on Ubuntu, but Anaconda provides a nice way to set it up.
[05:03] <Mystified1234> anyone around 2 help please, stuck at initramfs. with no way to list/view or cat nvme drives
[05:05] <Mystified1234> i update my bios, unticked secure & fast boot,.At grub ubunto is listed, but fails to complete the boot & drops toinitramfs,
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: whats your ubuntu version? are you trying to install, or did you install and try to boot?
[05:06] <Mystified1234> grabbing another live iso to acces the pc..   does the ubuntu iso have recovery tools available..
[05:07] <Mystified1234> 18.02
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> 18.04
[05:07] <Mystified1234> with kernel .20 & .50
[05:07] <Mystified1234> oops yes
[05:07] <Mystified1234> 18.04
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: are you trying to install for the first time, or did you install the setup and now trying to reboot?
[05:08] <Mystified1234> no cat or nano or fdisk tools
[05:08] <Mystified1234> so cant list my nvme
[05:08] <Mystified1234> under initramfs
[05:08] <Mystified1234> just tried to use rescatux but nothing worked
[05:08] <lotuspsychje>  Mystified1234: are you trying to install for the first time, or did you install the setup and now trying to reboot?
[05:09] <Mystified1234> no.. was a full working dual boot, but upgraded my bios as i was having display issues..
[05:09] <Mystified1234> on my laptop
[05:09] <Mystified1234> lenova yoga 520 with  i5-8th gen
[05:10] <Mystified1234> intel gpu
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: updating bios, can change bios values again, did you check your bios sata/nvme settings?
[05:10] <Mystified1234> no.. did not
[05:10] <Mystified1234> let me get into bios
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: are you gonna dualboot or singleboot ubuntu now?
[05:11] <Mystified1234> need to dual boot
[05:11] <Mystified1234> as much as i hate windows
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Mystified1234
[05:16] <Mystified1234> its not an issue getting to grub
[05:16] <Mystified1234> i have uuid does not exist
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: with dualboot, fastboot & secureboot must be tweaked otherwise then singleboot, see uefi factoid ^
[05:17] <two4tea> Hi ALl
[05:17] <two4tea> I think I made a mistake somewhere with a symbolic link and I'm trying to dig myself out of a hole...
[05:21] <Mystified1234> secure & fast boot defineatly disabled
[05:22] <Mystified1234> kernel 4.18..-20 generic
[05:24] <Mystified1234> from initramfs how can list my nvme partitions
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: please dont repeat
[05:26] <Mystified1234> lotuspsychje: then what do i do
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Mystified1234: patient until someone can help you
[05:27] <Mystified1234> :)
[05:27] <Mystified1234> but still :(((( (lol)
[06:15] <gimpnixon> Hey everyone, Coming here to give a little update about a situation I was having. when I would start my system with startx for some reason my cursor would be invisable until I opened a terminal or a GUI window of some sort. couldnt figure it out for the longest and came here asking and didnt really find much info well i'm coming to you all to let you know that i've found a neat little work around if
[06:16] <gimpnixon> anyone ever has the same issue. YOu can add the line "xrdb -load ~/.Xresources" to your .xinitrc file and if your .Xresources file if configured corectly then this will make your mouse load at start up.
[06:17] <gimpnixon> I haven't testd it, but using the "source" commnad may also have the same effect. Cheers
[06:28] <blackflow> mr_lou: bug in what though?
[06:29] <blackflow> mr_lou: also consider it the other way around (since there aren't any special drivers for disk brands), that the disk is sensitive to something specific in USB communication with linux.
[06:32] <zamba> what is accounts-daemon and why is it consuming all my cpu?
[06:34] <Ben64> zamba: https://askubuntu.com/questions/685193/what-starts-accounts-daemon
[07:14] <mr_lou> blackflow, Bug, issue, call it what you will. Poor performance compared to other OS even on the same PC. People all report the same thing: Decent speed at first, then slows insanely to 1,5 mbps. People reply about ram buffer and such, but this doesn't change that transfers are fine on Windows.
[07:15] <mr_lou> People all report the same thing.
[07:15] <mr_lou> And it seems to be related only to flash drives, SD cards, USB sticks, SSD harddisks etc.
[07:16] <blackflow> mr_lou: yeah but they report for the same drive model? anyway, without knowing in which subsystem the bug exists, it's still not absolute that it's Ubuntu (or more precisely the Linux kernel's) fault.
[07:17] <blackflow> don't get me wrong, this ain't some blind defense of Ubuntu, it's pragmatical conclusion aimed at eliminating red herrings.
[07:17] <blackflow> good luck for now, I have to flee the office, bbl in an hour or so
[07:27]  * mr_lou is out too
[07:35] <thsnr> i have definitely observed the same behavior under windows where a copy starts fast and slows down towards the end. you can also find many confirming reports for windows
[07:35] <thsnr> it just a question of when the actual syncing happens and how the reported speed is calculated
[07:36] <thsnr> (unless of course you have actually stumbled on some issue)
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> !chat | thsnr
[07:36] <thsnr> more of a follow-up to mr_lou, but ok
[08:00] <Optimus_Prime> hello?
[08:00] <Mystified1234> hey guys how to list nvme disks from a rescue disk
[08:11] <Mystified1234> hey how to fix ubuntu after windows/bios update with ubuntu disk
[08:16] <icey> -server
[08:16] <icey> whoops - sorry :)
[08:24] <MJCD> Is there a mini.iso for ubuntu 19.04 yet?
[08:25] <MJCD> I can't find it
[08:27] <MJCD> also why is it all -live-server
[08:27] <MJCD> not just -server as usual
[08:28] <MJCD> yeah no mini.iso :(
[08:28] <MJCD> I will put in an issue
[08:29] <MJCD> i'm sure I could reconfigure 18.04's installer to use the 19 repo's ... ?
[08:29] <MJCD> its mini.iso
[08:33] <mehjari> hi, can anyone help setting up gui in ubuntu server 18.04? i get to remote desktop screen where it shows me "xrdp - just connecting" popup with session dropdown having multiple options.. i tried alll of them but nothing seems to work :(
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> mehjari: join to #ubuntu-server please
[08:40] <jadax> hey, I'm trying to lean my Ubuntu 18.04 install to reclaim some memory so docker can run. What is the minimum that Ubuntu 18.04 would need? ~ 150MB?
[08:41] <jadax> I'm on EC2 AWS instance and I only have 1GB of memory available
[08:45] <Mystified1234> need to repair ubuntu on a nvme after bios upgrade
[08:45] <m_ad[m]> MJCD: there is a netboot/mini iso of 19.04 and it's been there for a while, look closer on the download site under Alternative Downloads
[08:46] <Mystified1234> unable to list the nvme, don't know where to start
[08:46] <MJCD> not listed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:46] <m_ad[m]> MJCD: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/19.04/
[08:46] <MJCD> nor is it in http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.04/
[08:46] <m_ad[m]> there you go
[08:46] <MJCD> ok so it just needs updating
[08:46] <MJCD> tyvm
[08:46] <m_ad[m]> you're welcome :)
[08:49] <boblamont> is there any way in Lubuntu to get a sound, flash, or some sort of attention getter when a confirmation dialog comes up?
[08:50] <m_ad[m]> better to ask in #lubuntu i guess
[08:51] <boblamont> I didn't know there was #lubuntu
[08:53] <m_ad[m]> boblamont: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:07] <Mystified1234> how to list nvme drives
[09:08] <Ben64> ls /dev/nvme*
[09:10] <Mystified1234> Ben64: mo luck from live ubuntu iso
[09:40] <Mystified> need nvme tools for live installer
[09:40] <Mystified> as the nvme disk is not listed
[09:40] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[09:45] <Chaekyung> Hi. How u doin?
[09:45] <Mystified> anyone around to help
[09:45] <Mystified> need to install nvme tools
[09:45] <Mystified> on live installer
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> Mystified: if you repeat your question, please add 'all' details so volunteers can try to help you
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !details | Mystified
[09:47] <pwuertz> Hi, is there a way to downgrade Nautilus in 19.04 to a previous version. Say, the one in 18.10?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: downgrading packages is not how ubuntu works, whats your purpose exactly?
[09:48] <BluesKaj> pwuertz, what's your real issue?
[09:48] <Mystified> My ubuntu dual boot was working untill i updated the bios.. now unable to boot, nor can identify the nvme drive, with any commands. so I can try to do a grub recovery
[09:48] <Mystified> windows boots from grub
[09:49] <pwuertz> lotuspsychje, BluesKaj The real issue is that the latest Nautilus doesn't allow copy+paste file locations to other applications anymore. Like pasting a file path in any editor, terminal etc.
[09:50] <BluesKaj> Mystified, legacy bios or uefi ?
[09:51] <pwuertz> It seems to be a known anti-feature since Nautilus 3.30
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: if you find a bug, or want a a wish you can file a !bug or affect on an existing bug. as user you have influence in the ubuntu community
[09:51] <Mystified1234> earlier in the day i installed
[09:51] <Mystified1234> http://dpaste.com/0YA47KH
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: is this what you are looking for? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1824157
[09:53] <pwuertz> lotuspsychje: It's a known anti-feature that was introduced ~9 months ago, bug reports are all there, but as far as I understood the gnome folks are not willing to change that behaviour. So I'm trying to downgrade to the last known working version.
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: as said before, downgrading is not how ubuntu works, if you want an earlier nautilus, try another ubuntu version
[09:55] <BluesKaj> Mystified1234, did you try the recovery kernel ?
[09:58] <Mystified1234> no..
[09:58] <Mystified1234> i'm unable to access the disk to chroot
[09:59] <Mystified1234> unable to read it from any iso
[09:59] <Mystified1234> or initramfs
[09:59] <Mystified1234> no command is showing the nvme drive
[10:00] <jeremy31> Mystified1234: any chance BIOS is using RAID mode?
[10:01] <Mystified1234> i think so
[10:01] <Mystified1234> what should it be
[10:01] <Mystified1234> but windows booted from grub
[10:02] <Mystified1234> or should i say, its still boots from grub
[10:09] <BluesKaj> Mystified1234, describe what happens when you try to boot ubuntu from grub?
[10:10] <Mystified1234> i have grub, ubuntu & windows are listed
[10:10] <Mystified1234> i click ubuntu
[10:10] <Mystified1234> i have this error
[10:11] <Mystified1234> I end up with initramfs. nissing uuid.  initramfs has limited tools & lsblk does not list nvme partitions no cat function
[10:12] <Mystified1234> no uuid
[10:12] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: are you able to see the disk if you boot a live usb?
[10:12] <Mystified1234> thats why I'm tryting to find nvme tool
[10:12] <Mystified1234> yes
[10:12] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: can you boot a live usb now to troubleshoot
[10:12] <Mystified1234> I have ubuntu live installer connected
[10:12] <Mystified1234> & booted
[10:12] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:13] <Mystified> im using the installer now
[10:13] <EriC^^> you're installing or just on the live session?
[10:13] <Mystified> unable to execute /sbin/parted: Input/output error
[10:13] <Mystified> live session
[10:14] <Mystified> I wanyt to recover the os
[10:14] <Mystified> or at least recover the data
[10:16] <Mystified> parted_devices list only /dev/sdb	4022337024	SanDisk Cruzer Blade	unknown
[10:17] <EriC^^> Mystified: sounds like the live usb is damaged
[10:18] <Mystified> ? nvme drive the sdb is the live usb
[10:18] <EriC^^> Mystified: try "dmesg | grep nvme"
[10:18] <Mystified> blank
[10:18] <EriC^^> Mystified: i'd say the live usb is damaged if it says input/output error on /sbin/parted
[10:19] <Mystified> but windows is working fine
[10:19] <EriC^^> still for some reason the nvme isnt being picked up
[10:19] <EriC^^> Mystified: i said the live usb not nvme damaged
[10:19] <EriC^^> the installer
[10:19] <Mystified> ah
[10:19] <Mystified> remake the iso
[10:19] <EriC^^> use a different usb
[10:20] <Mystified> ok
[10:20] <EriC^^> input/output error is hardware related
[10:21] <Mystified1234> ok making another
[10:22] <Mystified1234> EriC^^: have a look at this http://dpaste.com/0YA47KH
[10:25] <EriC^^> what is that Mystified1234 ? a log from the installed system?
[10:27] <Mystified1234> prior to doing the bios upgrade..
[10:27] <Mystified1234> i was having display issues
[10:27] <EriC^^> aha
[10:27] <Mystified1234> i had ssh open
[10:27] <EriC^^> so you installed the hwe packages, then what
[10:27] <Mystified1234> still have the terminal open
[10:27]  * EriC^^ pulls a sofa out for Mystified1234 
[10:27] <EriC^^> tell me how it all started
[10:28] <Mystified1234> thanks EriC^^: :)
[10:28] <EriC^^> no problem Mystified1234 :)
[10:29] <EriC^^> so did you try restarting after the hwe package update? but prior to the bios update?
[10:29] <Mystified1234> my display has been crashing on the laptop & is under warrantty, yet when i returned the laptop, it was stated no faults where found. The issue happens on windows & ubuntu
[10:29] <EriC^^> aha
[10:30] <EriC^^> that sucks
[10:30] <EriC^^> which manufacturer is it?
[10:32] <Mystified1234> EriC^^: yes restarted after the upgrade
[10:32] <Mystified1234> then went into windows, as it was also sugested i do the bios upgrade
[10:33] <Mystified1234> after that could noot boot into ubuntu, but boot into windows.
[10:33] <YoKeSeh-> Any Brackets user been able to solve the typographical problem with "OpenFreeType6" in the current versions of Ubuntu?
[10:33] <Mystified1234> I did disable secure boot & fast boot
[10:34] <mouses> Mystified1234: if no problem was found, perhaps some common setting/app you use is crashing the display driver?
[10:34] <mouses> Mystified1234: What type of GPU are we talking about?
[10:34] <Mystified1234> the issue is both in windows & ubuntu
[10:34] <Mystified1234> not just ubuntu
[10:34] <mouses> Right - there are settings as well as apps that run in both :)
[10:35] <Mystified1234> I'm sure its a hardware issue..
[10:35] <Mystified1234> I'm now going to reboot with a new installer
[10:36] <mouses> Again, what type of GPU and are you deviating from stock settings?  What driver version?
[10:38] <Mystified1234> I just want stock settings on lenovo intel gpu
[10:39] <Mystified1234> again no nvme
[10:42] <Mystified1234> parted just shows the usb
[10:43] <Mystified1234> no input.output error
[10:44] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: did you try booting into ubuntu before doing the bios upgrade by any chance?
[10:44] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: ah great, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:44] <Mystified1234> I cant see anu nvme tools in ubuntu
[10:44] <Mystified1234> yes
[10:44] <EriC^^> aha did it work?
[10:44] <Mystified1234> ill need to install an irc client\
[10:45] <Mystified1234> hang on ill use firefox
[10:45] <EriC^^> ok
[10:45] <EriC^^> did you try booting into ubuntu right after the kernel upgrade but before the bios upgrade?
[10:49] <mystified1234_> https://termbin.com/tv0n
[10:51] <Mystified> EriC^^: i thought it was a definite yes but know im not 100% sure
[10:52] <Mystified> as I stated I can't  see any nvme tools here
[10:52] <EriC^^> Mystified: i think something about the bios update screwed things up, maybe it set some default setting that doesnt allow ubuntu to see the nvme
[10:52] <Mystified> on the live iso
[10:52] <EriC^^> try to look for any settings that are related, or maybe roll back the bios update if possible
[10:52] <Mystified> if thats the case why is the live installer booting
[10:53] <Mystified> I have noticed that I can stop fast boot
[10:53] <EriC^^> this is the same iso installer you used to install the first time right?
[10:53] <EriC^^> Mystified: cause it's not nvme
[10:53] <Mystified> yes
[10:53] <Mystified> but new usb
[10:53] <EriC^^> the problem is that the nvme drive cant be located, that's why the install stops at uuid not found
[10:53] <Mystified> i made another usb
[10:53] <Mystified> yes
[10:53] <EriC^^> ok, that means it must be the bios update causing this then
[10:54] <Mystified> but there is still no nvme tools
[10:54] <EriC^^> or some setting it set
[10:54] <Mystified> ill go into bios
[10:54] <Mystified> should the drive be set to raid
[10:55] <EriC^^> try setting it to the opposite of what's currently set
[10:56] <Mystified> there is an option for "bios back flash"
[10:56] <Mystified> in storage i have
[10:57] <Mystified> options for
[10:57] <Mystified> controller mode RST
[10:58] <Mystified> non raid phsical pcie 1.o samsung 238.gignvme
[10:59] <Mystified> if i try ahci it will erase the data
[10:59] <EriC^^> no it wont
[10:59] <Mystified> thats the only option
[10:59] <EriC^^> try ahci
[10:59] <Mystified> so try that then
[10:59] <EriC^^> yes sir
[11:00] <Mystified> lol
[11:00] <Mystified> thats all it was
[11:00] <Mystified> bloody hell
[11:02] <pavlushka> what is the equivalent of apt-key for apt as the former one is deprecated?
[11:02] <trurl> is there something like "arp -a"?
[11:03] <ChunkzZ> anyone know how I can backup chromium settings? Ubuntu 18 LTS....
[11:04] <_myst_> back in.. all nvme now showing 1-5
[11:05] <_myst_> EriC^^:
[11:05] <_myst_> thanks
[11:06] <_myst_> sorry to waste your time
[11:06] <_myst_> bloody hell
[11:06] <_myst_> now I can get back toi this screen error
[11:06] <_myst_> i hope it does not continue
[11:07] <rory> I don't think there is one, pavlushka. From the apt-key man page: Note: Instead of using this command a keyring should be placed directly in the /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ directory with a descriptive name and either "gpg" or "asc" as file extension.
[11:09] <rory> however... the command being deprecated mainly means you shouldn't include it in a script etc... but if you just need to add a key on your desktop, the command still works.
[11:10] <rory> ChunkzZ: you can back up the ~/.config/chromium/ directory.
[11:10] <rory> or ~/.config/google-chrome/ if applicable
[11:12] <rory> bloody hell. gtg https://i.imgur.com/BzLQzNn.png
[11:23] <Jonopoly_> Anyone used gio to mount an FTP directory?
[11:27] <Jonopoly_> i get this error: Error mounting location: volume doesn't implement mount
[11:35] <tomreyn> Jonopoly_: what'S the output of    dpkg -l gvfs* | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:35] <tomreyn> and which ubuntu version are you running?
[11:39] <Jonopoly_> Raspbian, ill get that file now
[11:40] <Jonopoly_> https://termbin.com/umzh
[11:42] <Jonopoly_> tomreyn:
[11:43] <tomreyn> Jonopoly_: we only support ubuntu in #ubuntu, thus the name.
[11:44] <Jonopoly_> tomreyn: alright, thanks thought raspbian was based on ubuntu
[11:44] <Jonopoly_> tomreyn: Thanks
[11:44] <tomreyn> it may be, i don't know but "based on" is not "is".
[11:45] <tomreyn> try ##linux
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Jonopoly_, raspbian is based on debian stretch
[11:45] <Jonopoly_> BlueKaj: ah okay, thanks!
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Jonopoly_, there's also a #raspberrypi chat
[11:49] <EriC^^> Mystified: great good to hear
[11:54] <g105b_> Hi everyone, is there a recommended way to install nvidia drivers other than using nvidia.com?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> g105b_: depends on your chipset whats reccomended
[11:55] <tomreyn> your ubuntu version can matter, too, i guess
[11:55] <g105b_> I have not yet installed Ubuntu.
[11:55] <g105b_> The PC has two GTX 970 cards.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-drivers
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hmm, not bot
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> g105b_: before you install ubuntu with gtx cards, its useful to know its possible you will need !nomodeset to bypass black screen
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | g105b_
[11:59] <g105b_> Oh.
[11:59] <g105b_> This reminds me of years ago editing xorg.conf and crying.
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> g105b_: no xorg tweaking should be needed these days for normal usage
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> g105b_: when no black screen, ubuntu should load your driver automaticly but for GTX cards it might be reccomended to get a higher version from the ubuntu graphics ppa
[12:07] <Mystified> again thanks EriC^^: :) my wife is angry for not pulling my weight !!!
[12:13] <zetheroo> I am cloning an 18.04 VM and then renaming the hostname, but for some reason the DNS still seems messed up when trying to access the clone from other systems ... I sometimes land on the original and not on the clone, or I land on clone1 instead of clone2
[12:14] <tomreyn> zetheroo: do they have different ip and mac addresses?
[12:15] <zetheroo>  tomreyn: I just checked before you asked  :) they have different macs but same IP :P
[12:15] <zetheroo> (DHCP)
[12:16] <tomreyn> well that's wrong, obviously, but with different macs your dhcp server should be assigninmg different ip addresses
[12:17] <tomreyn> - "but"
[12:17] <zetheroo> right
[12:17] <zetheroo> ok, I just used dhclient to renew the IP
[12:18] <zetheroo> I am wondering if perhaps the original mac address is hiding somewhere ...
[12:19] <zetheroo> I just rebooted the VM and it's reverted to the previous IP
[12:22] <tomreyn> i read that the "cloud-init" package may be getting in the way there.
[12:26] <zetheroo> source?
[12:28] <zetheroo> hmm ... I found this https://superuser.com/questions/1338510/wrong-ip-address-from-dhcp-client-on-ubuntu-18-04
[12:34] <zetheroo> adding             dhcp-identifier: mac        to the netplan config seems to have fixed the issue
[12:34] <tomreyn> https://netplan.io/examples#integration-with-a-windows-dhcp-server
[12:35] <generic> how can I build an image for PXEboot ?
[12:35] <zetheroo> tomreyn: the joy of netplan :D
[12:35] <tomreyn> zetheroo: the joy of non standards complying dhcp servers
[12:36] <zetheroo>  tomreyn: Windows Server 2012r2 doesn't comply with standards?
[12:37] <tomreyn> apparenlty not fully, if it expects a mac address for a dhcp identifier
[12:37] <zetheroo> I don't actually mind netplan, but there is a learning curve coming from what was before.
[12:38] <zetheroo> tomreyn: what is the alternative to identifying by mac?
[12:38] <tomreyn> custom strings, i guess, i haven't looked up the details.
[12:40] <zetheroo> I think I located the culprit ... /etc/machine-id
[12:40] <zetheroo> on both cloned VMs it's identical
[12:40] <tomreyn> looks like your cloning mechanism works badly.
[12:41] <zetheroo> The mechanism is simply creating a template based on a VM and then cloning that template ... it's not OS specific
[12:42] <zetheroo> one has to know where all the changes need to be made on the clones to make sure they are unique instances
[12:42] <tomreyn> no doubt there.
[12:44] <zetheroo> https://jaylacroix.com/fixing-ubuntu-18-04-virtual-machines-that-fight-over-the-same-ip-address/
[12:44] <tomreyn> the system has no way of knowing that it's a clone, so whoever clones it needs to ensure they know which changes need to be made to clone a system, and ensure those are made. this issue would not occur with fresh installations.
[12:45] <zetheroo> This is certainly true. :)
[12:45] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'd say that DAD is enough for the system to know that, and react accordingly
[12:46] <zetheroo> though the change to dhcp not identifying with iface macs is pretty new ... was a tad surprised when I read about just now
[12:48] <Number6> Hi, I'm trying to follow the steps listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS to secure my 14.04 and 16.04 machines. I installed the higher version kernels as well as he intel-microcode package, however when I reboot the system and test to see if I'm still vulnerable I get Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT Host state unknown
[12:53] <rypervenche> Number6: First of all, you should upgrade or reinstall your 14.04 machine. It went EOL last month, so you are no longer receiving security patches.
[12:55] <Number6> rypervenche: It's on the list of things to do, don't worry
[12:56] <tomreyn> maybe there are no microcode updates for this cpu, or not yet?
[12:57] <Number6> Possibly. However I tried using the command line flags of   mds=full,nosmt
[12:58] <Number6> in /etc/default/grub
[13:01] <Number6> With no luck either, which doesn't really make any sense
[13:05] <tomreyn> and cat /proc/cmdline suggests they applied?
[13:05] <tomreyn> (did you update-grub?)
[13:07] <Number6> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-50-generic root=UUID=d436f049-ad78-4cb8-aa3a-e52454b395f5 ro mds=full,nosmt console=tty1 console=ttyS0 nvme.io_timeout=4294967295 nvme_core.io_timeout=4294967295
[13:07] <Number6> They're there, in the cmdline options alright
[13:11] <tomreyn> Number6: So "SMT Host state unknown" sounds like a detection issue.
[13:12] <TJ-> Number6: is it a virtual machine or bare metal?
[13:12] <Number6> AWS VM
[13:13] <TJ-> Number6: I'd assume AWS hosts are patched. I'd also theorise that they hide the host state from guest VMS to prevent bad actors detecting unpatched hosts and attempting to attack them
[13:14] <Number6> indeed
[13:17] <tomreyn> oh a VM
[13:20] <Number6> yeah, ubuntu vm on AWS
[13:38] <mouses> Question: I have a not even 8 month old 64GB USB stick (Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0) and after plugging it in, no device shown in thunar, no device shown in gparted
[13:38] <mouses> any troubleshooting I can do, or likely dead USB stick?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> mouses: could you pastebin the tail of syslog on the plugin?
[13:39] <mouses> of course, moment
[13:41] <mouses> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SdSfjXh7zv/
[13:41] <mouses> (that's a unplug and replug of the device while tailing)
[13:41] <mouses> and current tail is repeating the error -71 line
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> mouses: so gparted & disktools doesnt see the device?
[13:42] <mouses> lotuspsychje: correct, pasting more of said log if helpful:
[13:43] <mouses> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FSwFKS7j5R/
[13:43] <mouses> assuming faulty hardware, I just hate to trash a 64GB stick if nothing is actually wrong with it
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> mouses: other usb ports test?
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | mouses another test
[13:44] <mouses> lotuspsychje: yes, tested on other ports and also other machines (Including a ubuntu box, a gentoo box, and a windows box)
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> mouses: yeah multiple Os might be dead then
[13:45] <mouses> giving that a go
[13:45] <mouses> lotuspsychje: probably, just a shame to have one die so soon
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> mouses: 8months means still in warranty right?
[13:45] <mouses> device does not show in testdisk
[13:45] <mouses> lotuspsychje: in theory, except I didn't save original packaging or receipt
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> mouses: yeah i usually test with gparted & testdisk if those dont show its mostly broken
[13:46] <mouses> checking their RMA process
[13:46] <mouses> Yeah, they require 'valid proof of purchase' and I never saved the receipt becuase bad mouses and it was on sale for like $14.99 usd
[13:47] <TJ-> mouses: have you tested in other devices ?
[13:47] <mouses> oh well, into the e-waste drawer
[13:47] <mouses> TJ-: 08:44 <mouses> lotuspsychje: yes, tested on other ports and also other machines (Including a ubuntu box, a gentoo box, and a windows box)
[13:49] <mouses> lotuspsychje: thanks for the sanity check/help
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> np mouses
[13:49] <TJ-> mouses: is it directly connected, or via a USB<>SDcard adapter? I've seen those adapters fail
[13:50] <mouses> TJ-: direct connection
[13:51] <mouses> TJ-: could be something physical, last time I used it I was noticing how it would disconnect/reconnect at seemingly random times
[13:52] <TJ-> mouses: ooo I've seen that too when the USB connector and the PCB traces separate due to mechanical stress... and ficxed it by reflowing the solder with a heat gun/soldering iron
[13:54] <mouses> TvL2386: little over my level :)
[13:58] <TJ-> mouses: my point is, if mechanical stress were the cause, by examining if there is a slight bend in the connector<>body line you could insert it and apply careful slight pressure to correct the bend and see if it helps - that'd also confirm whether it'd be possible to fix it
[14:15] <mouses> TJ-: so weird, it looks perfect, no bends or physical looking issues - here's complete syslog when plugged in
[14:15] <mouses> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MtqdmP3cws/
[14:17] <TJ-> mouses: That actually looks quiet hopeful
[14:18] <mouses> TJ-: any ideas?  Device not seen in gparted, testdisk, etc
[14:19] <TikityTik> i'm trying to install postgresql and i deleted /var/lib/postgresql, no matter what how i reinstall postgresql it stilldoesn't remake /var/lib/postgresql
[14:19] <TJ-> mouses: the device is correctly recognised and the block device on it too, but then the U! U2 transistions fail - those are link power management phases/levels. I suspect your issue might be solved by disabling LPM on the host. You can find an overview of U1/U2 at https://www.eightforums.com/threads/power-options-add-or-remove-usb-3-link-power-mangement.50276/
[14:21] <mouses> TJ-: weird, it was working just fine on every device I own (5+ systems) 2 weeks ago, now works on 0 of them
[14:21] <mouses> 3 of those systems are not networked and have not been updated/changed in many months
[14:21] <TJ-> mouses: yes, it does seem like the device has a problem but this is worth trying. Here's the Linux way to control it https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/driver-api/usb/power-management.html
[14:22] <mouses> thanks!  Will give it a go, why not
[14:22] <mouses> also tried to RMA it, we'll see if Sandisk wants to be nice about it even though I don't have receipt/original packaging
[14:22] <mouses> doubt they are that picky over a $20 USB stick :)
[14:22] <TJ-> mouses: it may be, if the host doesn't try to do U1/U2 link power management (which is the default) then the device will work
[14:23] <mouses> worth a shot, as I have no need for the power management anyway
[14:24] <CoffeeCattle> when you press ctrl alt and an F key to switch between x servers, is there a termianl command I could use to do the same thing?
[14:24] <CoffeeCattle> I want to change the keybinding
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: While it isn't recommended, as it will affect other users of the machine if there are any. This post might be a starting point for you. It's rather old, so understand some of the approach may no longer work. https://askubuntu.com/a/176103
[14:28] <CoffeeCattle> thank you, I'll check it out]
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: Otherwise the command from a logged in terminal session "chvt #" will also work
[14:28] <CoffeeCattle> that was a blind smiley at the end
[14:29] <CoffeeCattle> @Prag I get the same "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[14:30] <CoffeeCattle> I'm on ubuntu 19 if that makes nay differnece
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> the chvt command has been standard for a long time CoffeeCattle. I was adding caution to the link, as their are some significant archetecture changes to Ubuntu since 2012 and how the TTYs are utilized
[14:37] <CoffeeCattle> is there a way to cheat and make a key I press simulate ctrl+alt+f(whatever)
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: May I ask what your goal is for making this change? It may help me better find a resource for your
[14:40] <CoffeeCattle> I want to watch porn on tty2 and switch to tty1 with a single button rather than 3
[14:40] <jdr> bahahaha
[14:41] <CoffeeCattle> Its actually 4 cus Ive got an apple keyboard and have to hold down the fn
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: The purpose of 3 buttons to prevent accidental switching. I don't know what keys you would bind your switching to, but without at least a single modifier your going to reduce the functionality of your computer
[14:42] <SimonNL> second screen CoffeeCattle then there is just one button needed  power switch
[14:43] <CoffeeCattle> I'd stick it on the eject, prefabley only on that tty2 user
[14:43] <CoffeeCattle> switching tty pauses the video and stops any sound
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> My recommendation is to invest in a lock on your door, and consider other hobbies that you'd be less ashamed of
[14:44] <CoffeeCattle> nothing wrong with having honour and hormones
[14:44] <jdr> baahahah
[14:46] <lordcirth> CoffeeCattle, there are better ways to quickly close or minimize something than switching ttys.
[14:47] <TJ-> CoffeeCattle: the kernel uses Alt+Fx for switching ttys, Xorg adopted Ctrl+Alt+Fx. You might need to consider than in rebinding at the Xorg level
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> Alt + F4 comes to mind
[14:47] <CoffeeCattle> I have way too many windows for alt+f4 to be less keypresses
[14:48] <lordcirth> CoffeeCattle, make a script that runs 'killall' on the programs in question, then keybind that?
[14:48] <CoffeeCattle> what if I want to go back to watching the video. switching screen server pauses it and guartees it wont be playing
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: It sounds like we've reached the limits of help that we can provide you with. With several options on the table, I'd suggest that this is a good time to start researching them and figure out what works best for your needs.
[14:49] <CoffeeCattle> Is xmodmap still applicable to latest ubuntu?
[14:50] <pragmaticenigma> !info xmodmap disco
[14:50] <CoffeeCattle> I tried to change my eject key to delete once but I couldnt get the change to remain across boots. It ignored .xmodmap
[14:51] <CoffeeCattle> it exists on mine
[14:51] <CoffeeCattle> just it ignored .xmodmap on startup
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: It's not a package, that's why it's not found. It's a command and is still available
[14:52] <CoffeeCattle> do you know how I can get a xmodmap to remain across boot on ubuntu 19
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> !yy.mm | CoffeeCattle
[14:54] <genii> Just add the xmodmap command to the end of your ~/.xinitrc with a & after it
[14:55] <CoffeeCattle> whats ~/.xinitrc for? Does it fire every boot?
[14:55] <genii> When X starts, yes
[14:55] <CoffeeCattle> cool so would that be every login
[14:55] <CoffeeCattle> across all users
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: A little research and google foo shows that xkb is the proper way to reassign or change key maps
[14:56] <TJ-> CoffeeCattle: see "man 1 xinit" - there is a systemwide location for xinit files under /etc/
[14:57] <pragmaticenigma> CoffeeCattle: https://askubuntu.com/a/347382
[14:57] <daniG>  /quit
[14:57] <CoffeeCattle> lol I dont think I've ever found a Linux solution that hasn't turned out to be out of date
[14:59] <CoffeeCattle> I'm not sure if I want to mess with that xkb. the xmodmap on xinit might be simpler
[15:00] <genii> CoffeeCattle: Not across all users, only for whatever user has that in their /home/theirusername/.xinitrc file
[15:01] <genii> CoffeeCattle: But if you make also an /etc/skel/.xinitrc with same command, any new users created will have it also
[15:19] <CoffeeCattle> omggg "xmodmap cannot set a key to type key combinations"
[15:19] <CoffeeCattle> that route is a no go
[15:23] <sappheiros> Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for lubuntu i386? I'm trying to quickly delete an entire column of a table.
[15:23] <CoffeeCattle> ah, you can sudo chvt 2 to switch tty
[15:23] <CoffeeCattle> you need the sudo now
[15:24] <CoffeeCattle> is there something I can add to my sudoer file so I dont need to put my password in for that command?
[15:25] <lordcirth> CoffeeCattle, you can add a line allowing NOPASSWD sudo for that one command, yes
[15:26] <TikityTik> i'm trying to install postgresql and i deleted /var/lib/postgresql, no matter what how i reinstall postgresql it stilldoesn't remake /var/lib/postgresql
[15:27] <TJ-> TikityTik: did you use "apt install --reinstall ..." ?
[15:27] <TikityTik> TJ-:  yes
[15:27] <TJ-> TikityTik: that is strange, I thought the postinst script handled such things
[15:28] <TikityTik> maybe it's a sub-package?
[15:28] <TikityTik> that it's not getting reinstalled?
[15:28] <TJ-> TikityTik: which package are you installing? if you're not at the top of the tree maybe that is the case
[15:29] <TJ-> TikityTik: try "grep -rn '/var/lib/postgresql' /var/lib/dpkg/info" you might see shell scripts with stuff like "/var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql-common.postinst:33:        adduser --system $quiet --home /var/lib/postgresql --no-create-home ... mkdir -p /var/lib/postgresql "
[15:32] <TikityTik> TJ-:  i'm installing postgresql
[15:34] <TikityTik> i fixed it i think. 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall  postgresql-common'
[15:39] <TikityTik> err, it didn't finish making the rest of it
[15:40] <TikityTik> how can i uninstall the sub-packages of postgresql too?
[15:41] <TJ-> TikityTik: you could try "dpkg-reconfigure <package>"
[16:14] <quesker> trying to find the x86_64 version of 16.04 download.  all I see is amd64 and i386
[16:15] <TJ-> quesker: amd64 is the x86_64
[16:15] <TJ-> quesker: AMD invented x86_64 architecture
[16:15] <quesker> it should say that then
[16:16] <m_ad[m]> it's know for years that amd64 is the x86_64 version....
[16:16] <m_ad[m]> know/known
[16:17] <quesker> someone should tell the kernel.  Linux foo 3.10.0-862.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Apr 20 16:44:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:22] <TJ-> quesker: package architecture naming is inherited from the Debian project; it was introduced as a port in 2005 when only AMD had x86_64  CPUs in the market (Intel's came later)
[16:24] <TJ-> quesker: at that time the Intel 64-bit "Itanium" (IA-64) architecure was also packaged, so it made sense to call the new port "AMD64"
[16:24] <quesker> the strange way it was worded on the site I thought it was itanium or something weird like that
[16:56] <ahi2> I wish california calendar was in the repository. i triedd to add the PPA and it couldnt find the IP address
[17:00] <samba35> presently i am on ubuntu and i am try to to install macos on old macbook pro ,
[17:01] <samba35> how to convert .app folder as a .iso ?
[17:04] <tomreyn> ahi2: since all PPA's are hosted on Launchpad, which is used by a lot of people, and where it would be very notable if there were issues with the authoritative DNS for this domain name, my guess is that there's much more likely a resolver issue on your end.
[17:05] <tomreyn> ahi2: ie.: systemd-resolve ppa.launchpad.net
[17:05] <ahi2> hmm where would i check for DNS issues?
[17:05] <tomreyn> ahi2: what's the APT source you added?
[17:06] <tomreyn> (or how did you add the PPA)
[17:07] <ahi2> tomreyn, i add-apt repository
[17:07] <ahi2> add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/daily-builds
[17:08] <ChunkzZ> any idea when ubuntu is getting chromium 74? does 19.04 have it?
[17:08] <ahi2>  systemd-resolve ppa.launchpad.net  ---> "command not found"
[17:09] <tomreyn> ahi2: which ubuntu version do you run there?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[17:09] <Bashing-om> !info chromium disco | ChunkzZ
[17:09] <tomreyn> !info chromium-browser disco
[17:10] <ahi2> tomreyn, xubuntu
[17:10] <ChunkzZ> tomreyn, when will we get 74.x?
[17:10] <ahi2> ppa.launchpad.net: 91.189.95.83 -- Information acquired via protocol DNS in 49.4ms. -- Data is authenticated: no
[17:10] <tomreyn> ahi2: that's a !flavour. could you run the series of commands i posted?
[17:11] <tomreyn> ahi2: hmm, so you do have system-resolve now?
[17:11] <ahi2> yes it worked
[17:11] <tomreyn> ChunkzZ: i don't know.
[17:11] <ChunkzZ> 74.x comes with night mode, that's why I asked. :)
[17:12] <samba35> how to make folder as a .iso ?
[17:12] <tomreyn> ahi2: if the commands above are too long / scary, can you just report the output of this one?  lsb_release -ds
[17:13] <ahi2> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[17:13] <tomreyn> ChunkzZ: sounds like a critically important feature. ;)
[17:13] <ChunkzZ> tomreyn, yes! lol
[17:13] <ChunkzZ> thanks. :)
[17:13] <tomreyn> ahi2: okay. did you re-add the PPA and catch the output as i suggested?
[17:14] <ahi2> i will now
[17:14] <tomreyn> only if you actually want to diagnose this - i don't want to convince you!
[17:15] <ahi2> tomreyn, Err:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release
[17:15] <ahi2>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.95.83 80]
[17:15] <tomreyn> ahi2: okay, so that's a very different error message.
[17:16] <tomreyn> previously you reported "i triedd to add the PPA and it couldnt find the IP address"
[17:16] <ahi2> 404 not found
[17:16] <tomreyn> but it did get the ip address fine, just couldn't find content at the server this ip address connects to.
[17:16] <ahi2> oh ok
[17:17] <Bashing-om> ahi2: "http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu" not toucjed since 2015 . no bionic pocket :(
[17:17] <tomreyn> ahi2: the ppa you used is "ppa:yorba/daily-builds". Every PPA also has a website. This website can be reached by filling in those PPA details in a URL like this: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
[17:18] <ahi2> i used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/ppa  not  add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/daily-builds
[17:19] <tomreyn> ahi2: at this web page there is an "Overview of published packages", where you can fiolter by "published in". If the codename of your ubuntu release (lsb_release -c) is not listed in this drop down field, then this PPA does not support your release.
[17:19] <ahi2> ok thanks tomreyn
[17:19] <ahi2> thanks Bashing-om
[17:19] <tomreyn> ahi2: that's right, Bashing-om looked at the other PPA. but in the end the same applies for yours.
[17:20] <ahi2> its too bad the california calendar is nicer than the others
[17:21] <ahi2> evolution isn't bad but i dont need the mail portion. i use web mail
[17:23] <ahi2> orage calendar, in xubuntu, is too small to look at
[17:23] <tomreyn> ahi2: you're welcome. isn't california the default gnome calendar?
[17:23] <ahi2> yes
[17:23] <tomreyn> oh right you run xubuntu
[17:23] <ahi2> forgive me i don't like gnome
[17:24] <tomreyn> hehe, i don't think this requires forgiveness
[17:24] <ahi2> i liked gnome2 before
[17:25] <tomreyn> ahi2: so if you installed gnome-calendar, you'd surely pull in a lot of gnome dependencies. but if i recall correctly, xubuntu always had some, so maybe it's not that many?
[17:26] <tomreyn> i.e. i'm suggesting you run    sudo apt install gnome-calendar   and look at the amount of packages it would install.
[17:27] <ahi2> tomreyn, hey it worked
[17:27] <ahi2> not that many dependencies
[17:27] <ahi2> thanks again tomreyn
[17:27] <tomreyn> ahi2: you're welcome. oh an you should remove the PPA again.
[17:27] <ahi2> will do
[17:29] <ahi2> im trying to get my dad to let me install xubuntu on his old macbook
[17:29] <ahi2> since apple won't support it anymore
[17:30] <tomreyn> if that's a (very old) powerpc one, please /join #ubuntu-powerpc
[17:31] <ahi2> 2009 i think its intel not sure
[17:53] <g105b__> I want to install Docker on Ubuntu 19.04. I would have thought there was an official package, but it doesn't look like there is. Am I missing something?
[17:55] <Bashing-om> !info docker disco | g105b__ Universe repo enabled ?
[17:56] <tomreyn> !info docker.io disco
[17:56] <g105b__> Right.
[17:57] <g105b__> That's as clear as mud to me.
[17:57] <tomreyn> g105b__: so it does exist
[17:57] <sarnold> apt-get install docker.io ought to do the job then
[17:58] <tomreyn> https://docker.io also provide an apt repository, if always using the latest version is important to you.
[18:01] <tomreyn> g105b__: what's unclear then?
[18:11] <David--> can anyone help me please? I've got an ubuntu server and been given a /28 by my ISP but cannot get any routing. I'm not sure if it's a config error on the router or my interfaces file. I can ping the server but not from it.
[18:12] <sarnold> David--: pastebin your ip addr and ip route output, probably someone can give it a look
[18:17] <David--> sarnold: thanks, here it is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K6YY9VH687/
[18:18] <sarnold> David--: and how about your ip addr and ip route output?
[18:19] <David--> sarnold: Not sure what you mean, I put the IP address in there i'm trying to configure?
[18:19] <lordcirth> David--, run the commands 'ip addr' and 'ip route' and pastebin the results
[18:20] <sarnold> David--: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BhJTRTMDBG/  :D
[18:21] <David--> i'm logged in over a KVM so can't copy and paste, can I upload a screenshot somewhere?
[18:21] <sarnold> the pastebinit tool makes it easy to use usual pastebins
[18:22] <lordcirth> If he had internet access :P
[18:22] <sarnold> this is also handy if you can't get pastebinit installed for whatever reason http://termbin.com/
[18:22] <sarnold> I think imgur is probably easiest for screenshots, but i've never tried.. it just sseems to be the one I see the most
[18:22] <leftyfb> David--: what version of ubuntu? What file are you editing for these changes? How are you applying said changes after editing the file?
[18:24] <David--> leftyfb: 12.04, using nano and /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:24] <TJ-> David--: I may be mis-calculating but the netmask doesn't include the gateway
[18:24] <David--> https://prnt.sc/nsxwbx is the screenshot
[18:24] <leftyfb> David--: 12.04 is EOL and unsupported. You need to upgrade.
[18:25] <David--> leftyfb: I appreciate that but it would just be the same issue as it's a network config issue
[18:25] <David--> It's me doing something wrong
[18:26] <leftyfb> David--: incorrect. The latest versions of ubuntu have a different networking config and manner in which it is managed. You need to upgrade.
[18:27] <David--> I don't want to upgrade because I'm running something very specific on this server and last time I upgraded it killed it. It needs to be 12.04 specifically.
[18:27] <David--> Can you at least tell me if my network settings look correct please?
[18:28] <TJ-> David--: I think your netmask should be /20 (255.255.240.0) to include the gateway 62.3.80.20 and 62.3.98.112/28
[18:30] <sarnold> David--: yikes, /etc/init.d/networking restart may hang the machine -- better to just use ifup and ifdown on specific interfaces
[18:30] <David--> still getting network unreachable when trying to ping 8.8.8.8
[18:30] <leftyfb> David--: "It needs to be 12.04 specifically" this is very bad. You should not be relying on an OS released 7 years ago and EOL'd 2 years ago. What is it running that you think won't run on newer versions?
[18:31] <David--> leftyfb: I'd rather not say if that's okay
[18:31] <TJ-> David--: you'd be better off in the channel ##networking for this
[18:33] <TJ-> David--: also, your screenshot shows no default route, which is probably the root-cause
[19:22] <mwheeler-> I just did a fresh install of lanscape on ubuntu 16.04, and when I try to register computers, they won't register and there's a "missing/invalid csrf token" error in the server logs.. google search turns up nothing.. any ideas?
[19:22] <leftyfb> mwheeler-: try #ubuntu-server
[19:23] <mwheeler-> thanks leftyfb
[19:32] <MikeRL> Anyone know of the command of rsync I should run if I want to backup my whole root filesystem to an external hard drive while preserving permissions?
[19:32] <MikeRL> Would I have to use sudo? What would the command be?
[19:32] <MikeRL> Someone taught me ages ago but I didn't bother to backup. Linux distros tend to be pretty stable. But I dual boot and a recent cumulative update for Win10 nuked all my partitions and I just finalized redoing everything from scratch.
[19:36] <daum> hi - i just upgraded from 16 to 18 and when i login it seems my keyboard and mouse (clicking, but can move) goes dead, any idea?
[19:36] <OerHeks> rsync * grsync ( gui) can be a help, but backing up a running system .. it can be done, but would more secure when you use a live iso
[19:36] <daum> i've tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all and still no luck
[19:36] <OerHeks> MikeRL ^^
[19:38] <pjs> Anyone have a good document or guide for source based routing? Ie, I want all traffic on interface wan0 to be routed via tun0, if the interface is up. Most of what I've found seems to refernece /etc/network/interfces but it's my understanding that that file shouldn't be used in modern Ubuntu? Is that right?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> pjs: We now use netplan. See if https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan helps in the configuration.
[19:46] <MikeRL> OerHeks, thanks. Was away for a few minutes.
[19:47] <pjs> Bashing-om: thanks
[19:47] <MikeRL> OerHeks, Thanks again.
[19:47] <Bashing-om> pjs: Hope it helps and is enough to get ya straight :)
[19:48] <pjs> Bashing-om: oops, I forgot this is for my Pi, which is running raspbian haha :)
[19:50] <Bashing-om> pjs: Welp ! .. can not say anything about raspian.
[19:50] <OerHeks> raspian + netplan ??
[19:52] <leftyfb> pjs: why would you ask for support about Raspbian in #ubuntu?
[19:54] <coconut> Do gtk3 themes on gnome-look.org work on mate too?
[19:57] <pjs> leftyfb: because I had a mixup. Turns out I'm human after all
[19:57] <pjs> Bashing-om: thank you as always :)
[19:59] <Bashing-om> pjs: :D
[20:15] <Chaekyung> coconut: In theory, since you ask about gtk3 themes specifically, no. In practice themename/ will have subfolders named gtk-2.0 and gtk-3.0 and probably a few more like openbox-3 xfwm4 etc
[20:16] <Chaekyung> coconut: There's no universial answer, but from what I've seen it's likely there will be support
[20:17] <coconut> Thank you Chaekyung!
[20:52] <texla> leftyfb, My Ubuntu 18.04.2 takes 60 sec from power on to boot thru the grub menu to the Ubuntu logo with the red scrolling dots from there it takes 85 sec to reach the login window..Is this normal ? My Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 only takes 53 sec from power on to logon window !!
[22:14] <FreeBDSM> hi. is there a way to tell `apt list --installed` to list packages for i386 architecture separately?
[22:14] <FreeBDSM> like `dpkg -l` does
[22:20] <OerHeks> apt list --installed | grep i386
[22:21] <YoKeSeh> Hi all, I have a problem with the nvidia 390 drivers. It does not show the "Sync to VBlank" option that should appear inside "OpenGL Settings". How can i fix this? Thank you
[22:26] <EriC^^> FreeBDSM: i dont think so, maybe pipe it to awk?
[22:26] <EriC^^> apt list --installed | awk '$3  == "i386"'
[22:35] <fishcooker> i want to fresh install on Prosesor Intel® Celeron® N3050 2M Cache, hingga 2,16 GHz                 which one should i choose intel x86 or amd64 ?
[22:37] <sarnold> fishcooker: amd64
[22:38] <fishcooker> noted, sarnold
[22:40] <en50> Does anyone know what the touchpad gesture is to activate the activities overview?
[22:41] <en50> If I put three fingers on the touchpad and move one one way and the other two the other way, it activates it, but that can't be the intended behavior.
[22:42] <en50> I guess I could get used to it. It's just awkward.
[23:18] <p0a> Hello
[23:18] <p0a> is my ubuntu too old to be alive anymore?
[23:18] <p0a> apt-get update gives errors 404 not found
[23:19] <xamithan> If it isn't one in the topic,  probably so
[23:19] <p0a> I have 16.04
[23:20] <p0a> no wait, I have 17.10 !
[23:20] <xamithan> That one is dead
[23:20] <p0a> isn't 17.10 buggy
[23:21] <Bashing-om> !17.10 | p0a
[23:22] <p0a> how can I get around that fact for now and get the SDL dev packages installed?
[23:22] <p0a> I need some SDL1.2 dev packages installed that's all
[23:24] <sarnold> you can download packages from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:24] <p0a> thank you sarnold
[23:28] <p0a> sarnold: can you help me find libsdl1.2-dev ? I can't find it
[23:28] <p0a> I have found the rest (libsdl-image, libsdl-mixer, libsdl-ttf)
[23:28] <p0a> I am looking in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/
[23:28] <sarnold> it'll be under main/libs/libsdl1.2
[23:28] <p0a> Thank you
[23:29] <sarnold> p0a: and please do upgrade to a supported release as soon as you can -- that hasn't gotten security updates in ages..
[23:30] <p0a> yeah I should do that
[23:32] <p0a> I can't do it
[23:32] <p0a> it won't let me install the .deb packages due to broken dependencies
[23:32] <p0a> lol
[23:33] <sarnold> it might be faster to just upgrade to 18.04 LTS :)
[23:33] <p0a> it seems that way
[23:33] <sarnold> tracking down a huge dep chain by hand can take a while
[23:34] <p0a> For now I might get away with installing a virtualbox updated ubuntu
[23:49] <YoKeSeh> Hello friends, How can I disable vsync using nvidia driver? I do not have the vsync vblank option in my panel. Thank you
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> YoKeSeh: Uncheck the "Sync to VBlank" option in the Nvidia control panel.
[23:52] <YoKeSeh> i said:  I do not have the vsync vblank option in my panel.
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> YoKeSeh: Under each "X Screen #" look for OpenGL Settings, the option is there. If it is not provided, then it is not supported by your hardware configuration.
[23:54] <YoKeSeh> For that reason I m lf a solution
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> YoKeSeh: I just told you, if it isn't present, your hardware configuration doesn't support it. Forcing it will damage your graphics card, and or monitor.
[23:56] <YoKeSeh> I had this option previously in the same distribution and version of ubuntu.
[23:57] <YoKeSeh> and it work fine
[23:58] <YoKeSeh> So I'm sure some solution will be
[23:58] <sarnold> YoKeSeh: perhaps another way of putting it, why do you believe it is currently enabled?