[17:56] OvenWerks: So, turns out (from my lurking) that bluesabre is the maintainer of menulibre, and it is broken in 19.04. That explains a few things, but I don't know if he knew about the bugs people have been having. [18:08] Menulibre just goes about the menu editing problem from the wrong angle from the begining. [18:08] Yeah. :/ [18:09] It completely replaces the system config meaning that anyone who adds (as part of a package like wine for example) a menu stub after menulibre has been used... doesn't work. [18:10] The xfce4-volumed bug reared its ugly head in a direct personal email I received this morning. I need to figure out how to prevent information like the panel configuration from missing us in the future. [18:10] If it didn't do that, the fact that it uses a copy of the stock xfce config rather than the active config wouldn't matter [18:10] Eickmeyer: I also got the same email. [18:11] Did this person send it via launchpad to you too? [18:11] I think part of the problem may be that ubuntu-bug does not work for any package installed that is not release [18:11] I think so. [18:12] Well, I think it's the Xubuntu team knowing about a problem or a deprication (as xfce4-volumed is now depricated, it turns out) and doesn't pass that information along to us if it requrires a fix on our end. [18:13] in the past zequence was syncing our desktop to xubuntu every cycle. I am not sure what his procedure to do that was. [18:14] Was that, perhaps, before Numix became the default? [18:14] I don't know, sakrecoer may know. [18:15] themes have never been my thing, I would be happy with the old standard Motif style... [18:16] Not a huge deal. But, we need to be staying on top of that. I guess I'll join the Xubuntu devel list. [18:20] We need to put together a list of packages that need release [18:20] default settings, controls, menu, menu-add, ? [18:25] So far, yes. [18:26] So far, you are the only one who has tested any of them [18:26] It's actually pretty easy to see on Launchpad. Simply look at our git packages and whichever ones have been modified since 19.04 are the ones that will need release. [18:26] menu-add is a new package so it will need sponsoring and AA approval. [18:26] As such, the package will need to be given all the things. [18:26] Ok [18:28] Ya, I may have put the readme in the wrong place. Directly in usr/share/doc/ubuntustudio-menu-add/ [18:29] I see controls is different [18:30] Readme can be in the root directory of the git repo. [18:30] I think it is there too [18:30] I wanted to have it where I could drop it in the GUI... but it was easier to just put the text there from the get go [18:31] It doesn't need to be in usr/share/doc/ubuntustudio-menu-add. That's done automatically by dh_docs. [22:58] xfce4-volumed(-pulse) is not necessarily deprecated, but we opted to use xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin after taking up maintainership of it a couple years ago [22:58] As for the menulibre bugs, I'll be working those out this weekend. Wasn't aware of them prior to the disco release [22:59] bluesabre: I'll try it out when you are done. [22:59] OvenWerks: thanks