[13:38] <lubuntu_> ciao!
[19:35] <uebgielle> Hello. I have Lubuntu 18.04 (all updates done). This site [www.betterthanchess.com] does not work. "it requires an up-to.date browser supporting WebGL"
[19:36] <wxl> LTS versions DO NOT have the latest software
[19:37] <uebgielle> Is there a solution?
[19:37] <wxl> install the latest version of lubuntu for one thing
[19:38] <uebgielle> Doesn't Firefox have to be always up-to-date to be safeonline?
[19:38] <uebgielle> I need LTS
[19:38] <wxl> sure, but that doesn't mean every version includes the technology in the latest version
[19:38] <diogenes_> uebgielle, works for me on Falkon, sudo apt install falkon
[19:38] <wxl> then you could build firefox yourself
[19:38] <wxl> diogenes_: on 18.04?
[19:39] <uebgielle> Falkon is another browser?
[19:39] <wxl> yep
[19:39] <diogenes_> wxl, nah but it should be workin because it's compilled with prorietary codecs.
[19:40] <uebgielle> Is it possible that the issue will be solved with the coming updates (of 18.04) ?
[19:41] <wxl> diogenes_: "should"
[19:41] <wxl> uebgielle: no.
[19:43] <uebgielle> Ok i get it, thanks to both
[19:45] <uebgielle> Another unrelated question: when you do printscreen how do you get the screeenshots to go somewhere else (not in home folder, but in a specified one)?
[19:45] <wxl> the same place every time?
[19:46] <uebgielle> yes
[19:47] <wxl> in your ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu.xml (i think that's the filename), revise the shortcut for printscreen to call `scrot -e 'mv $f /path/to/wherever/you/want'` instead of just `scrot`
[19:47] <uebgielle> by default
[19:48] <uebgielle> i need to do it for each user?
[19:49] <wxl> yeah one way or another
[19:49] <wxl> local configs will always trump global ones
[19:49] <uebgielle> So i can do it just one time globally? (how?)
[19:50] <wxl> well there is a global config, but like i said, if there's a local config, it will overwrite that
[19:50] <wxl> so you would have to remove the printscreen definition from every user file in order for the global config definition to make a difference
[19:50] <uebgielle> Ahh, ok, i understand
[19:51] <wxl> by the way
[19:51] <wxl> i'm not sure that dollar sign might not need to be escaped
[19:52] <uebgielle> I don't understand
[19:52] <wxl> it might be better to make a script for that and call it from there instead
[19:52] <uebgielle> I am a beginner
[19:53] <wxl> yeah well you're asking for something complex, so time to grow XD
[19:53] <wxl> open up the terminal and type `echo TERMINAL` and then type `echo $TERMINAL`
[19:53] <wxl> you'll note that the first replies "TERMINAL" while the second will give you something like "xterm"
[19:54] <wxl> that's because the dollar sign is a special character that when interpreted tells the system to return the value of the TERMINAL variable
[19:54] <wxl> on the other hand if you do `echo \$TERMINAL` you'll get "$TERMINAL"
[19:54] <wxl> that's escaping the dollar sign
[19:55] <wxl> openbox (that's the configuration you're messing with) has its own parsing scheme that is not well described, so i'm not sure it's going to behave correctly
[19:55] <uebgielle> Can i cause big problems?
[19:55] <wxl> so instead make a script somewhere that calls the scrot the way that it needs to be called and in the openbox config, just call that script
[19:55] <wxl> that way there's no parsing that openbox needs to do
[19:55] <uebgielle> How do i make that script?
[19:55] <wxl> well, if not having your screenshots is a big problem, yes XD
[19:56] <wxl> open your favorite editor, and enter the following:
[19:56] <wxl> #!/bin/bash
[19:56] <wxl> scrot -e 'mv $f /path/to/the/location/you/want'
[19:56] <wxl> save it somewhere locally for now
[19:56] <wxl> (in your home)
[19:57] <wxl> i assume you want this to be accessible globally, so do `sudo mv /path/to/script /usr/local/bin/scriptname`
[19:57] <wxl> then make it executable: `sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/scriptname`
[19:57] <wxl> then edit the openbox config so that the printscreen configuration calls /usr/local/bin/scriptname
[19:59] <uebgielle> Thanks, I will try, but seems quite out of reach for beginner
[19:59] <wxl> all of this is much easier in 19.04
[20:00] <uebgielle> Why do files in the home folder of Lubuntu behave differently from the other folders? (when you move them out it creates a shortcut...)
[20:01] <wxl> huh?
[20:04] <uebgielle> Yes, when you take it with the mouse and put it on the desktop or anywhere it doesnot move the file (like for files in all other folders) but only creates a shortcut
[20:33] <wxl> uebgielle: for some strange reason it seems the default behavior when moving to the desktop is not the same when moving to other folders. you can use ctrl to copy or shift to move
[20:36] <uebgielle> wxl: no way to adjust it?
[20:36] <uebgielle> no way to fix it?
[20:38] <uebgielle> and last question - thank you for all your help
[20:38] <uebgielle> What is the best way to create a shared folder? (one where all users have access and files are available to all)
[20:45] <uebgielle> wxl: if you cannot answer soon, i will check the log later because i have to go, thank you for all your help
[21:53] <wxl> no, there's no way i know to adjust it
[21:53] <wxl> shared folder: put it on the root somewhere and set the permissions accordingly.
[21:54] <wxl> oh i'm sorry, there's a way to adjust it/fix the problem: use 19.04 (sense a theme yet?)
[22:12] <tomreyn> the reason this website won't have worked will have been that webgl support was disabled in firefox (by the user, it's enabled by default).
[22:13] <tomreyn> about:config -> search for "webgl", inspect bold preferences.
[22:53] <fishcooker> thanks guiverc for pointing the the upgrading issue i'll give the lubuntu dingo a try on the next provision
 @wxl [<wxl> all of this is much easier in 19.04], you're evangelist of lxqt :D
 err *dingo
[23:48] <wxl> @ShiBonCip you had it right the first time :)
 lxqt is future, but i hope the GTK too
[23:55] <wxl> nope