| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Sorry about that, had to go do some chores. | 18:33 |
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| Eickmeyer | Speaking of MuseScore, I had looked at upgrading it to 3, but looks like that's already in progress and I should probably leave well-enough alone: https://musescore.org/en/node/281650 | 18:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Seems like we have a lot being held-up because of the freeze in Debian. | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: should we have another PPA for releases that are not yet into debian/ubuntu | 18:47 |
| OvenWerks | Backports are current release that older releases use. | 18:47 |
| Eickmeyer | ubuntustudio-ppa/extras? | 18:48 |
| OvenWerks | new or proposed I think | 18:48 |
| OvenWerks | extras is for sw debian/ubuntu will never have | 18:48 |
| OvenWerks | or at least are not contemplating right now | 18:49 |
| * OvenWerks is trying to think logically | 18:49 | |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| Eickmeyer | Sorry, phone call. | 18:57 |
| Eickmeyer | Never a dull moment. | 18:57 |
| Eickmeyer | ubuntustudio-ppa/incoming? | 18:58 |
| OvenWerks | That would work for me yes | 20:03 |
| * OvenWerks has to get ready to take his Yf to work. | 20:04 | |
| OvenWerks | Oh, one last thing. Are we going to also try releasing the rest of the packages fairly soon? | 20:04 |
| OvenWerks | _controls, -menu, default-settings and (brimming with hope) menu-add | 20:05 |
| OvenWerks | I think menu-adds selling point is that it is the least intrusive menu manipulation tool available | 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | I am still waiting for Wimpress and bluesabre for new versions of their menu editors as well. | 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | but think menu-add is important enough to release | 20:08 |
| OvenWerks | It makes almost no assumptions about the system or DE | 20:09 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I was planning on releasing -default-setings, but that's about it for now. Do you want to release -controls? | 21:03 |
| OvenWerks | how else will they get testing? | 21:40 |
| OvenWerks | Unless someone does some testing on -controls and menu-add and finds some bugs, I figure they are done for the cycle | 21:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Nah, I'll go ahead and do the release. | 21:50 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Just released -default-settings -controls, and -menu to Eoan. | 22:10 |
| Eickmeyer | Looks like I'll need to bump the version number for -controls. | 22:11 |
| OvenWerks | yes, all of the packages need a version bump to release | 22:11 |
| OvenWerks | That is what keeps autobuilds and real releases in sync | 22:11 |
| OvenWerks | in fact it may be worth while turning auto builds off on released packages until at least one change has been made. | 22:12 |
| OvenWerks | one change beyond release | 22:13 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, in this case the only reason I need to version bump is because Ross had already bumped for -controls when he pushed it the other day. So, the new changes will start with 1.8.1. | 22:22 |
| OvenWerks | falktx says he is just releaseing new jack2 | 22:22 |
| Eickmeyer | Cool. I think that syncs from Debian? | 22:22 |
| OvenWerks | ok. | 22:23 |
| OvenWerks | it should... but who knows when... something for incoming already... | 22:23 |
| OvenWerks | ubuntustudio-ppa/incoming I should say | 22:23 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. I'm a little leery of putting that in though since it's not a simple application, but an entire audio backend. | 22:25 |
| OvenWerks | I think the big deal is that it is now fully compatable with jack1... so includes a2jmidid and maybe even zita-ajbridging. | 22:26 |
| OvenWerks | though to be honest, the zita-ajbridging is maybe better separate anyway unless they can be added and removed without shutting jack down and restarting. | 22:27 |
| OvenWerks | in incoming should be ok. It is not a ppa people should hook up to by default though | 22:31 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok. I'll work on making incoming a thing at least. | 22:32 |
| OvenWerks | backports yes, auto never :) | 22:32 |
| OvenWerks | Wiht autobuilds I tend to DL the package I want and dpkg -i it. | 22:32 |
| Eickmeyer | Ah. I see. | 22:33 |
| OvenWerks | People are not yet used to backports... the use of other PPAs should be a slow learn thing | 22:34 |
| OvenWerks | autobuilds is for testing only, not for daily use. | 22:35 |
| OvenWerks | backports is for releases. | 22:35 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes. | 22:35 |
| OvenWerks | incoming is for sw that has been released elsewhere but has not made it through the debian gauntlet | 22:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Makes sense. | 22:37 |
| OvenWerks | The idea of backports and incoming is to allow people to remain on a LTS release but still have up to date media development software | 22:37 |
| OvenWerks | so the desktop and OS are known to be stable and supported. | 22:38 |
| OvenWerks | with backports and incoming, we take over the the support. | 22:38 |
| OvenWerks | (untill next LTS) | 22:39 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. What's nice is that the IRC support team in #ubuntu is willing to support Studio 18.04 as long as Backports is enabled. | 22:40 |
| Eickmeyer | Back in a bit. | 22:40 |
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