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=== peter is now known as Guest9701
Guest9701hi im using ubuntu studio and i would like to use my m-audio oxygen 25 for musescore...but doesnt do anything...what can i do15:47
Guest9701ive looked for drivers,nothing...15:48
EickmeyerGuest9701: What Ubuntu Studio are you using?15:49
Eickmeyer...15:49
dagdaghi..running ubuntu studio..and want to connect m-audio oxygen25 midi keyboard but is not recognised at all..what now..thanx15:52
EickmeyerGuest9701: What Ubuntu Studio are you using?15:52
Eickmeyerdagdag: ^15:52
dagdagi think its 18.415:52
Eickmeyer18.04 then.15:53
EickmeyerHave you added the Backports PPA?15:53
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-backports15:53
ubottuThe Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer15:53
dagdagi have no idea what that is15:53
EickmeyerHence I linked it.15:53
dagdagok ill take a look15:53
EickmeyerIt's REQUIRED for further support.15:54
dagdagthanx but doest work..writes to give pasword but doest let me and if i try different way it writes something about root15:58
Eickmeyerdagdag: You have to run those commands. Do you not know your password?15:59
EickmeyerIf it's not working, then something is wrong with your installation.16:00
dagdagyes i put my pasword but writes sorry try again16:00
OerHekscheck your caps lock16:01
dagdagi tried it 3 times and now its running strangely16:01
dagdagit has read the package list..and ended16:02
dagdagis there something else i have to do16:03
Eickmeyerdagdag: You need to enter each command on that page separately.16:03
dagdagit has read the package list and ended16:04
dagdaganyth else16:04
dagdagFetched 3426 kB in 7s (497 kB/s)                                                Reading package lists... Done16:05
OerHeksrun update, and full-upgrade16:05
OerHeksreboot, and go wild16:05
dagdagyea thank!!oerheks16:06
dagdaginstalling16:06
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-controls | dagdag: After that, you will want to read this16:12
ubottudagdag: After that, you will want to read this: Ubuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls16:12
EickmeyerIt turns on the ALSA-Jack MIDI bridge too16:13
EickmeyerThen you can use Patchage or install and use Carla to patch your keyboard to MuseScore.16:13
dagdaglet me take alook16:14
dagdagok im as far as that i have plugged in the m audio...i have open musescore and i have open patchage...in the last i can see the m audio oxygen...now where do i go16:24
EickmeyerDrag a line from the maudio oxygen to the same colored input on MuseScore.16:25
dagdagin patchage it writes nu musescore16:27
EickmeyerHmmm...16:27
* Eickmeyer might have to play around with MuseScore16:27
EickmeyerOerHeks: Any thoughts? I have very little experience with MuseScore.16:27
EickmeyerOvenWerks: ?16:30
dagdagi have opened also musescore preferences  i/o...port audio..but no oygen recognised...ill stay with patchage...how do i patch the oxygen with musescore..in patchage16:30
Eickmeyerdagdag: Did you have musescore open prior to starting Jack? If so, restart MuseScore.16:31
dagdagin patchage it writes:oygen 2times...midi through 2 times..and systen 2 times16:32
dagdagsystem sorry16:32
Eickmeyerdagdag: That tells me MuseScore needs to be restarted.16:32
dagdagdone that16:33
EickmeyerStill not showing up in Patchage?16:33
dagdagi also restarted patchage nothing showing16:33
EickmeyerSo, it's clear your Oxygen is being recognized by the system. You might need to ask for help in #musescore (type "/join #musescore").16:34
EickmeyerWell, at least I got them partway.16:35
dagdagsorry i lost the chat..eickmeyer16:36
Eickmeyerdagdag: No worries.16:36
EickmeyerMy last line:16:36
EickmeyerSo, it's clear your Oxygen is being recognized by the system. You might need to ask for help in #musescore (type "/join #musescore").16:36
dagdagok..thank you for your great help as far as this also to oerheks!!16:37
dagdagill check it out16:37
EickmeyerSo, at this point, it's not an operating system issue. Good luck! :)16:37
dagdagbye and thanks!16:37
dagdaggood16:37
EickmeyerQuite welcome. :)16:37
OvenWerksEickmeyer: My musecoe came with pulse audio as the default audio16:44
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Oh. :/16:44
EickmeyerMust be how it's built for Debian.16:44
Eickmeyerdagdag: If you're still here, you might have to stop Jack.16:44
OvenWerkswhen I change it to jack then it auto selects jack audio, MIDI.16:44
OvenWerksbut now I have to restart musescore for that to take effect.16:45
OvenWerksnow musescore shows up in patchage16:46
dagdagim here16:46
OvenWerksI can connect my midi capture (AudioPCI in my case) to musescore midi in (dark red in my case)16:47
OvenWerksif I actually had a keyboard connected it should accept midi in to musescore16:47
OvenWerksNo not stop jack, restart musescore after choosing jack as it's I/O16:48
OvenWerksEickmeyer: ^^16:48
Eickmeyerdagdag: ^16:48
* OvenWerks is neither a keyboardist or a composer :)16:49
dagdagtrying different things one moment16:49
OvenWerksHey it make piano sounds if I add notes16:51
* OvenWerks wonders why people assume piano should be the default sound...16:52
dagdagi changed in musescore i/o...to jack midi use and jack audio..now its recognised in patchage16:52
OvenWerksYes, that is what I found as well16:52
dagdagnow where do i go...i have to create a line between..some of them16:53
OvenWerksdagdag: working in jack allows a lot more flexability. For example, musescore can be used as a sequencer to drive Ardour (transport and all) so that audio can be added on top.16:53
dagdagok16:54
OvenWerksto hook up lines in patchage think about a wire cable that pulls out from one device and can be plugged into another (like those old vaccumes with a retractable cord.)16:55
dagdagbut...i am using my m audio through usb port and not jack16:55
dagdagi understood that16:55
OvenWerksDrag the mouse from the output of one to the input of where you want it to go.16:55
Eickmeyerdagdag: Jack is simply the name of the audio framework. Not to be confused with a physical jack.16:56
OvenWerksThat should not matter, the midi port should still show up.16:56
dagdagok16:56
OvenWerksdagdag: the screen in patchage does go beyond what you can see. You can use scroll bars to see if you maudio midi port is off the screen16:57
OvenWerksIf you use the patchbay in Carla, there is a small over view screen in the bottom corner that is quite handy for seeing where they might be16:58
OvenWerksIn both patchage and Carla, the boxes can be dragged around to make the most sense for your setup. I normally pot inputs on the left and outputs on the right and applications in the middle17:00
dagdagso..what i see in patchage:oxygen 25...2 times system:one with playback 1 and 2..the other with capture 1 and 2...then there is mscore midiin in and midi(left and right) hooked tosystem playback17:01
* OvenWerks is surprised that random notes he added to musescore actually sounds like music17:01
OvenWerksdagdag: the audio and the midi should be different colours so always connect the same colours.17:02
OvenWerksso connect the oxigen25 with the midi colour to the muse midi in.17:02
OvenWerksIf you have a score open... in the right mode I would guess, notes should appear on the score and be heard as a piano sound from the computer.17:03
OvenWerksAs I said, I don't have a keyboard handy to play with just now.17:06
dagdagi have score open...and in patchage i connected same collored purple oxygen with midi through17:07
OvenWerksmidi through? That is probably not what you want17:08
dagdagok17:09
OvenWerksmidi through is just a pipeline from midi through playback to midi through capture.17:09
OvenWerksIt is helpfule for some older sw that does not show a public port but can connect to only HW. Midi through looks like a hw port.17:10
OvenWerksMidi through is of almost no use anymore17:10
dagdagok17:11
OvenWerks(but jack creates it by default anyway)17:11
OvenWerksYou will have a box that says "a2j" at the top and it will have through and should also have your keyboard.17:12
OvenWerks(probably the bottom entry)17:12
dagdaglet me see17:13
OvenWerksIf you don't have an a2j box with red in it (the same colour as mscore) then a2jmidid is not running17:15
OvenWerksThat would beg the question of how you started jack.17:16
dagdagi ran a2j and is now in patchage...with colour red17:16
OvenWerksubuntustudio-controls shouild auto start a2j for you.17:16
OvenWerksgood17:16
OvenWerksdid you run it with the -e flag?17:17
dagdagwith the e flag?17:17
OvenWerksIf run without, your kb will not show17:17
OvenWerksyes the correct command to start a2j is a2jmidid -e17:17
OvenWerks(that is why ubuntustudio-controls was made)17:18
dagdagi have open studio controls17:19
OvenWerksdoes it have two tabs?17:20
OvenWerks(system tweaks and Audio setup?)17:20
dagdagin controls /..yes17:20
OvenWerksgood, it is newer then17:21
OvenWerksJack master at the top should be your computer, I would guess (PCH or something)17:22
OvenWerkssample rate 48k (change this to 44k1 if you must)17:22
OvenWerksset Default PulseAudio output to "Jack Master" or you PCH device.17:23
dagdagyes it writes intel alc analog...done the other things17:24
OvenWerksThe three or four check boxes should all be checked (the top one for jack may not be, that is ok)17:24
OvenWerksstart or restart jack17:24
dagdagall checked17:25
OvenWerksyou will need to do a System->Connect to jack in patchage and maybe restart mscore17:25
dagdaggreen connection left right to playback are connected17:26
OvenWerkspatchage should now show an a2j box with your oxygen25 in it17:27
dagdagno doesnt show...all sepparate and different colours17:28
OvenWerksso there is no a2j17:29
OvenWerksdid you restart jack in -controls?17:29
OvenWerksWhen you restart jack patchage should loose all the jack bits and you need to go to System->connect to jack to get them back.17:31
OvenWerksmscore will need to be restared.17:32
dagdagi restarted jack in controls..now in patchage only shows 2 times oxygen..and two times midi through all the rst has dissapeared17:32
OvenWerksin the menu bar use System->connect to jack17:33
OvenWerks(the patcgae menu bar)17:33
OvenWerks*patchage17:33
dagdagaha lots written and allready connected17:35
OvenWerksdagdag: yes, do you see your kb?17:36
OvenWerks(that is the important thing after all)17:36
dagdagyes i see the oxygen in red in the same box with a2j17:37
OvenWerksgood.17:38
OvenWerksso you will have to restart mscore to see that17:38
OvenWerksif you haven't already17:38
OvenWerks(mscore doesn't have a reconnect to jack button that I could find)17:39
dagdagwow..i just played the first notes with oxygen in musescore17:39
OvenWerks\o/17:39
dagdagso next time if i open my computer and musescore..when i plugin my oxygen..doest it recognise automatic17:40
OvenWerksIf you don't stop jack in -controls, the next time you boot jack will run at session start and so be there. If the kb is plugged in before you run mscore then it should just auto connect17:41
OvenWerksYou should not have to restart jack.17:42
OvenWerksIt is ok to leave jack runn all the time, I have been doing so for about 5 years now.17:42
OvenWerksI even do this in my wifes computer and she doesn't do that much audio besides skype, but It allows me to turn her mic off and on17:43
dagdaggreat!i thank you for your precious time!!and all that have reacted here above!!17:43
OvenWerks(she likes to sing with music)17:43
OvenWerksno problem.17:44
dagdaghope she sings well:)17:44
OvenWerksshe sings in a long term care facility and there is no problems with residents for up to 2 hours after she is done.17:44
OvenWerksshe does good.17:45
dagdagi just tries someth17:45
dagdagi unplugged oxygen..and plugged it in again...restarted musescore...but i had to reconnect in patchage...17:46
OvenWerksyes, mscore only reconnects on start up17:48
OvenWerksthere are some commandline utillities that look for new ports and connect them (or disconnect) via an alogrythum the user sets up17:49
OvenWerksjack-plumbing comes to mind17:49
OvenWerksyou may need to install jack-tools if it is not there17:49
dagdagso i have to each time i use musescore also open patchage to reconnect a2j with mscore17:50
OvenWerksif you plug in your keyboard before starting mscore it should make all the connections at that time.17:50
dagdaglet me see17:51
OvenWerksin mscore->preferences->I/O there is a checkbox for "remember last connections.17:51
dagdagyes it did!!GREAT!!!17:51
OvenWerksThat should be checked by default17:51
dagdagits working!!im so thankfull!!17:52
dagdagcan i ask you where you are in the world17:52
OvenWerkssometimes these things seem intuitive to the developer, but may not be to the user.17:52
OvenWerksI am on Vancouver Island in Canada17:53
dagdagwow..canada..few days ago i spoke to a canadian..im in greece17:53
OvenWerksA lot of linux audio devs are in Europe, mostly France and Germany17:54
dagdaggive my greetings to joni mitchel17:54
OvenWerksBut for ubuntustudio, Eickmeyer and I are both on the NA west coast. (he is somewhat south of me in the US)17:55
dagdagand again thank you for your great help and getting me through this17:55
OvenWerksShe is almost half way closer to you in Ontario I think17:55
dagdagah ok..nice to know17:55
OvenWerksSo the best time to get help here may be to think UTC -070017:56
dagdagso you are always on these chats of ubuntu studio17:56
OvenWerksmy irc client is always going, but I am not always watching...17:56
OvenWerksI do tend to look at the back scroll though17:57
dagdagok...im signing out...greetings from europe to you in canada17:58
OvenWerksOk, bye now.17:58
dagdagbye bye...17:58
neoangelhi there guys23:57
neoangelgreetings23:57
neoangelis anyone there who knows or is in charge of the ubuntu studio kernel?23:58
Eickmeyerneoangel: The Ubuntu Studio Kernel is no different from the main Ubuntu kernel except for one build flag.23:58
EickmeyerThe Ubuntu Studio team no longer directly maintains it.23:59

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