[15:47] <Guest9701> hi im using ubuntu studio and i would like to use my m-audio oxygen 25 for musescore...but doesnt do anything...what can i do
[15:48] <Guest9701> ive looked for drivers,nothing...
[15:49] <Eickmeyer> Guest9701: What Ubuntu Studio are you using?
[15:49] <Eickmeyer> ...
[15:52] <dagdag> hi..running ubuntu studio..and want to connect m-audio oxygen25 midi keyboard but is not recognised at all..what now..thanx
[15:52] <Eickmeyer> Guest9701: What Ubuntu Studio are you using?
[15:52] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: ^
[15:52] <dagdag> i think its 18.4
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> 18.04 then.
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> Have you added the Backports PPA?
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-backports
[15:53] <dagdag> i have no idea what that is
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> Hence I linked it.
[15:53] <dagdag> ok ill take a look
[15:54] <Eickmeyer> It's REQUIRED for further support.
[15:58] <dagdag> thanx but doest work..writes to give pasword but doest let me and if i try different way it writes something about root
[15:59] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: You have to run those commands. Do you not know your password?
[16:00] <Eickmeyer> If it's not working, then something is wrong with your installation.
[16:00] <dagdag> yes i put my pasword but writes sorry try again
[16:01] <OerHeks> check your caps lock
[16:01] <dagdag> i tried it 3 times and now its running strangely
[16:02] <dagdag> it has read the package list..and ended
[16:03] <dagdag> is there something else i have to do
[16:03] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: You need to enter each command on that page separately.
[16:04] <dagdag> it has read the package list and ended
[16:04] <dagdag> anyth else
[16:05] <dagdag> Fetched 3426 kB in 7s (497 kB/s)                                                Reading package lists... Done
[16:05] <OerHeks> run update, and full-upgrade
[16:05] <OerHeks> reboot, and go wild
[16:06] <dagdag> yea thank!!oerheks
[16:06] <dagdag> installing
[16:12] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-controls | dagdag: After that, you will want to read this
[16:13] <Eickmeyer> It turns on the ALSA-Jack MIDI bridge too
[16:13] <Eickmeyer> Then you can use Patchage or install and use Carla to patch your keyboard to MuseScore.
[16:14] <dagdag> let me take alook
[16:24] <dagdag> ok im as far as that i have plugged in the m audio...i have open musescore and i have open patchage...in the last i can see the m audio oxygen...now where do i go
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> Drag a line from the maudio oxygen to the same colored input on MuseScore.
[16:27] <dagdag> in patchage it writes nu musescore
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> Hmmm...
[16:27]  * Eickmeyer might have to play around with MuseScore
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> OerHeks: Any thoughts? I have very little experience with MuseScore.
[16:30] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ?
[16:30] <dagdag> i have opened also musescore preferences  i/o...port audio..but no oygen recognised...ill stay with patchage...how do i patch the oxygen with musescore..in patchage
[16:31] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: Did you have musescore open prior to starting Jack? If so, restart MuseScore.
[16:32] <dagdag> in patchage it writes:oygen 2times...midi through 2 times..and systen 2 times
[16:32] <dagdag> system sorry
[16:32] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: That tells me MuseScore needs to be restarted.
[16:33] <dagdag> done that
[16:33] <Eickmeyer> Still not showing up in Patchage?
[16:33] <dagdag> i also restarted patchage nothing showing
[16:34] <Eickmeyer> So, it's clear your Oxygen is being recognized by the system. You might need to ask for help in #musescore (type "/join #musescore").
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> Well, at least I got them partway.
[16:36] <dagdag> sorry i lost the chat..eickmeyer
[16:36] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: No worries.
[16:36] <Eickmeyer> My last line:
[16:36] <Eickmeyer> So, it's clear your Oxygen is being recognized by the system. You might need to ask for help in #musescore (type "/join #musescore").
[16:37] <dagdag> ok..thank you for your great help as far as this also to oerheks!!
[16:37] <dagdag> ill check it out
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> So, at this point, it's not an operating system issue. Good luck! :)
[16:37] <dagdag> bye and thanks!
[16:37] <dagdag> good
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome. :)
[16:44] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: My musecoe came with pulse audio as the default audio
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Oh. :/
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> Must be how it's built for Debian.
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: If you're still here, you might have to stop Jack.
[16:44] <OvenWerks> when I change it to jack then it auto selects jack audio, MIDI.
[16:45] <OvenWerks> but now I have to restart musescore for that to take effect.
[16:46] <OvenWerks> now musescore shows up in patchage
[16:46] <dagdag> im here
[16:47] <OvenWerks> I can connect my midi capture (AudioPCI in my case) to musescore midi in (dark red in my case)
[16:47] <OvenWerks> if I actually had a keyboard connected it should accept midi in to musescore
[16:48] <OvenWerks> No not stop jack, restart musescore after choosing jack as it's I/O
[16:48] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: ^^
[16:48] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: ^
[16:49]  * OvenWerks is neither a keyboardist or a composer :)
[16:49] <dagdag> trying different things one moment
[16:51] <OvenWerks> Hey it make piano sounds if I add notes
[16:52]  * OvenWerks wonders why people assume piano should be the default sound...
[16:52] <dagdag> i changed in musescore i/o...to jack midi use and jack audio..now its recognised in patchage
[16:52] <OvenWerks> Yes, that is what I found as well
[16:53] <dagdag> now where do i go...i have to create a line between..some of them
[16:53] <OvenWerks> dagdag: working in jack allows a lot more flexability. For example, musescore can be used as a sequencer to drive Ardour (transport and all) so that audio can be added on top.
[16:54] <dagdag> ok
[16:55] <OvenWerks> to hook up lines in patchage think about a wire cable that pulls out from one device and can be plugged into another (like those old vaccumes with a retractable cord.)
[16:55] <dagdag> but...i am using my m audio through usb port and not jack
[16:55] <dagdag> i understood that
[16:55] <OvenWerks> Drag the mouse from the output of one to the input of where you want it to go.
[16:56] <Eickmeyer> dagdag: Jack is simply the name of the audio framework. Not to be confused with a physical jack.
[16:56] <OvenWerks> That should not matter, the midi port should still show up.
[16:56] <dagdag> ok
[16:57] <OvenWerks> dagdag: the screen in patchage does go beyond what you can see. You can use scroll bars to see if you maudio midi port is off the screen
[16:58] <OvenWerks> If you use the patchbay in Carla, there is a small over view screen in the bottom corner that is quite handy for seeing where they might be
[17:00] <OvenWerks> In both patchage and Carla, the boxes can be dragged around to make the most sense for your setup. I normally pot inputs on the left and outputs on the right and applications in the middle
[17:01] <dagdag> so..what i see in patchage:oxygen 25...2 times system:one with playback 1 and 2..the other with capture 1 and 2...then there is mscore midiin in and midi(left and right) hooked tosystem playback
[17:01]  * OvenWerks is surprised that random notes he added to musescore actually sounds like music
[17:02] <OvenWerks> dagdag: the audio and the midi should be different colours so always connect the same colours.
[17:02] <OvenWerks> so connect the oxigen25 with the midi colour to the muse midi in.
[17:03] <OvenWerks> If you have a score open... in the right mode I would guess, notes should appear on the score and be heard as a piano sound from the computer.
[17:06] <OvenWerks> As I said, I don't have a keyboard handy to play with just now.
[17:07] <dagdag> i have score open...and in patchage i connected same collored purple oxygen with midi through
[17:08] <OvenWerks> midi through? That is probably not what you want
[17:09] <dagdag> ok
[17:09] <OvenWerks> midi through is just a pipeline from midi through playback to midi through capture.
[17:10] <OvenWerks> It is helpfule for some older sw that does not show a public port but can connect to only HW. Midi through looks like a hw port.
[17:10] <OvenWerks> Midi through is of almost no use anymore
[17:11] <dagdag> ok
[17:11] <OvenWerks> (but jack creates it by default anyway)
[17:12] <OvenWerks> You will have a box that says "a2j" at the top and it will have through and should also have your keyboard.
[17:12] <OvenWerks> (probably the bottom entry)
[17:13] <dagdag> let me see
[17:15] <OvenWerks> If you don't have an a2j box with red in it (the same colour as mscore) then a2jmidid is not running
[17:16] <OvenWerks> That would beg the question of how you started jack.
[17:16] <dagdag> i ran a2j and is now in patchage...with colour red
[17:16] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio-controls shouild auto start a2j for you.
[17:16] <OvenWerks> good
[17:17] <OvenWerks> did you run it with the -e flag?
[17:17] <dagdag> with the e flag?
[17:17] <OvenWerks> If run without, your kb will not show
[17:17] <OvenWerks> yes the correct command to start a2j is a2jmidid -e
[17:18] <OvenWerks> (that is why ubuntustudio-controls was made)
[17:19] <dagdag> i have open studio controls
[17:20] <OvenWerks> does it have two tabs?
[17:20] <OvenWerks> (system tweaks and Audio setup?)
[17:20] <dagdag> in controls /..yes
[17:21] <OvenWerks> good, it is newer then
[17:22] <OvenWerks> Jack master at the top should be your computer, I would guess (PCH or something)
[17:22] <OvenWerks> sample rate 48k (change this to 44k1 if you must)
[17:23] <OvenWerks> set Default PulseAudio output to "Jack Master" or you PCH device.
[17:24] <dagdag> yes it writes intel alc analog...done the other things
[17:24] <OvenWerks> The three or four check boxes should all be checked (the top one for jack may not be, that is ok)
[17:24] <OvenWerks> start or restart jack
[17:25] <dagdag> all checked
[17:25] <OvenWerks> you will need to do a System->Connect to jack in patchage and maybe restart mscore
[17:26] <dagdag> green connection left right to playback are connected
[17:27] <OvenWerks> patchage should now show an a2j box with your oxygen25 in it
[17:28] <dagdag> no doesnt show...all sepparate and different colours
[17:29] <OvenWerks> so there is no a2j
[17:29] <OvenWerks> did you restart jack in -controls?
[17:31] <OvenWerks> When you restart jack patchage should loose all the jack bits and you need to go to System->connect to jack to get them back.
[17:32] <OvenWerks> mscore will need to be restared.
[17:32] <dagdag> i restarted jack in controls..now in patchage only shows 2 times oxygen..and two times midi through all the rst has dissapeared
[17:33] <OvenWerks> in the menu bar use System->connect to jack
[17:33] <OvenWerks> (the patcgae menu bar)
[17:33] <OvenWerks> *patchage
[17:35] <dagdag> aha lots written and allready connected
[17:36] <OvenWerks> dagdag: yes, do you see your kb?
[17:36] <OvenWerks> (that is the important thing after all)
[17:37] <dagdag> yes i see the oxygen in red in the same box with a2j
[17:38] <OvenWerks> good.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> so you will have to restart mscore to see that
[17:38] <OvenWerks> if you haven't already
[17:39] <OvenWerks> (mscore doesn't have a reconnect to jack button that I could find)
[17:39] <dagdag> wow..i just played the first notes with oxygen in musescore
[17:39] <OvenWerks> \o/
[17:40] <dagdag> so next time if i open my computer and musescore..when i plugin my oxygen..doest it recognise automatic
[17:41] <OvenWerks> If you don't stop jack in -controls, the next time you boot jack will run at session start and so be there. If the kb is plugged in before you run mscore then it should just auto connect
[17:42] <OvenWerks> You should not have to restart jack.
[17:42] <OvenWerks> It is ok to leave jack runn all the time, I have been doing so for about 5 years now.
[17:43] <OvenWerks> I even do this in my wifes computer and she doesn't do that much audio besides skype, but It allows me to turn her mic off and on
[17:43] <dagdag> great!i thank you for your precious time!!and all that have reacted here above!!
[17:43] <OvenWerks> (she likes to sing with music)
[17:44] <OvenWerks> no problem.
[17:44] <dagdag> hope she sings well:)
[17:44] <OvenWerks> she sings in a long term care facility and there is no problems with residents for up to 2 hours after she is done.
[17:45] <OvenWerks> she does good.
[17:45] <dagdag> i just tries someth
[17:46] <dagdag> i unplugged oxygen..and plugged it in again...restarted musescore...but i had to reconnect in patchage...
[17:48] <OvenWerks> yes, mscore only reconnects on start up
[17:49] <OvenWerks> there are some commandline utillities that look for new ports and connect them (or disconnect) via an alogrythum the user sets up
[17:49] <OvenWerks> jack-plumbing comes to mind
[17:49] <OvenWerks> you may need to install jack-tools if it is not there
[17:50] <dagdag> so i have to each time i use musescore also open patchage to reconnect a2j with mscore
[17:50] <OvenWerks> if you plug in your keyboard before starting mscore it should make all the connections at that time.
[17:51] <dagdag> let me see
[17:51] <OvenWerks> in mscore->preferences->I/O there is a checkbox for "remember last connections.
[17:51] <dagdag> yes it did!!GREAT!!!
[17:51] <OvenWerks> That should be checked by default
[17:52] <dagdag> its working!!im so thankfull!!
[17:52] <dagdag> can i ask you where you are in the world
[17:52] <OvenWerks> sometimes these things seem intuitive to the developer, but may not be to the user.
[17:53] <OvenWerks> I am on Vancouver Island in Canada
[17:53] <dagdag> wow..canada..few days ago i spoke to a canadian..im in greece
[17:54] <OvenWerks> A lot of linux audio devs are in Europe, mostly France and Germany
[17:54] <dagdag> give my greetings to joni mitchel
[17:55] <OvenWerks> But for ubuntustudio, Eickmeyer and I are both on the NA west coast. (he is somewhat south of me in the US)
[17:55] <dagdag> and again thank you for your great help and getting me through this
[17:55] <OvenWerks> She is almost half way closer to you in Ontario I think
[17:55] <dagdag> ah ok..nice to know
[17:56] <OvenWerks> So the best time to get help here may be to think UTC -0700
[17:56] <dagdag> so you are always on these chats of ubuntu studio
[17:56] <OvenWerks> my irc client is always going, but I am not always watching...
[17:57] <OvenWerks> I do tend to look at the back scroll though
[17:58] <dagdag> ok...im signing out...greetings from europe to you in canada
[17:58] <OvenWerks> Ok, bye now.
[17:58] <dagdag> bye bye...
[23:57] <neoangel> hi there guys
[23:57] <neoangel> greetings
[23:58] <neoangel> is anyone there who knows or is in charge of the ubuntu studio kernel?
[23:58] <Eickmeyer> neoangel: The Ubuntu Studio Kernel is no different from the main Ubuntu kernel except for one build flag.
[23:59] <Eickmeyer> The Ubuntu Studio team no longer directly maintains it.