[02:12] <DarinMiller> neoncontrails: kate can be set to auto-refresh when files change.
[02:14] <DarinMiller> In Kate in the View menu, select Auto Reload Document.
[09:41] <TomyWork> vmware remote console installs fine on ubuntu 18.04 but not on kubuntu 18.04. analysis of its installer's logs shows that it's trying to run "update-desktop-database", which is part of a package called "desktop-file-utils", that seems to be installed by default on ubuntu, but not on kubuntu.
[09:43] <TomyWork> nautilus depends on it, but dolphin probably doesn't. so i guess that would be the reason why it's not on kubuntu
[09:54] <acheronuk> TomyWork: also needed for appimage integration allegedly, so might be worth putting in by default
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:15] <TomyWork> BluesKaj, is that a script doing that?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> TomyWork, doing what?
 Hi folks
[12:16] <BluesKaj> nope it's just a command in the server box, /amsg Hi Folks
[12:16] <TomyWork> amsg is frowned upon in many channels
[12:17] <BluesKaj> only one objected to it , that was #debian when I was messing with debian OS a few yrs ago
[12:19] <BluesKaj> it only applies to my listed autojoin channels
[15:50] <jubo2> Had the nicest Windows 7 Professional I've ever seen. It booted with UEFI, installed Kubuntu, Kubuntu installer nuked Windows'es EFI data. There was nothing much of value there
[15:51] <jubo2> 'grub-update' does not see a bootable Windows, even when windows partition is mounted
[15:51] <jubo2> I did not see any big blinking red warning "Installing this will destroy existing OS'es EFI data"
[15:56] <pepee> this bug, or something very similar, is still present in Kubuntu 18.04:  https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg324874.html
[15:56] <diogenes_> jubo2, did you read documentation and guids and asking here before installation?
[15:57] <pepee> it's easy to reproduce: keep scrolling up while selecting text, at some point konsole will crash
[15:57] <jubo2> diogenes_: No. Linux doesn't break Windows if they boot with BIOS
[15:57] <pepee> actually, doesn't seem to be the same bug... but still
[15:58] <diogenes_> efi is a more tricky thing.
[15:58] <pepee> the crash is in the same function, though. I can provide backtrace
[15:58] <pepee> if anyone is interested...
[15:59] <jubo2> diogenes_: There are some threads discussing something similar. Apparently I can somehow rebuild the EFI files for Windows (though none of the cases are identical with mine)
[15:59] <jubo2> But first I need to download a Windows 7 Pro .iso
[16:00] <jubo2> that could be tricky to find. Also got a functional Windows 7, so maybe it has media generation tool like 10
[16:03] <pepee> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qmJkhWQCb2/
 I also had to reinstall windows twice to get a working uefi dual boot.
 And on another machine a similar issue.
[16:16] <jubo2> thanks for info bauchhaus
 Someone helped me tirelessly on the ubuntu channel.
 Even though i could not save the windows, at least thanks to this user I was understanding what's going on.
 This booting stuff can be very opaque for a user.
[16:54] <ankit> join #grub
 Hello guys!
 Its possible to enable scroll coasting on kubuntu 19.04
[21:10] <altus> hey how r u?