[00:00] Just wanted to install widelands, hoping their ppa has a build fresh for 14.04. But apt get update shows a bunch of errors already so i wondered. [00:01] well you'll need to upgrade if you'd like to get support here. [00:02] *sigh* that attitude is why ppl bitch against ubuntu. [00:04] you're still welcome here as a person, i'm just telling you what to (not) expect here while you're runngin an EOL release. [00:05] Elw3: if someone has a ppa, asking them to help you with the install can be a good idea [00:05] Elw3: End_Of_Life means no security updates anymore - ya want to leave yourself open to all the baddies out on the inerwebs ? - amongst other concerens . [00:05] yeah, you really need to upgrade for security [00:06] printf "gnome-terminal --title='S3xyL1nux said ubuntu is sucks' -- echo S3xyL1nux said ubuntu is sucks && $HOME/linux && exit 1" > $HOME/linux | [ -z `pgrep printf` ]; chmod +x $HOME/linux | [ -x $HOME/linux ]; $HOME/linux [00:06] Elw3: I like the game. I've joined #widelands, so we can chat there [00:06] Well sarnold answered what i wanted to know already. I mainly wanted to know if its still a valid practice to put in "old releases" right ifter EOL or not. [00:06] Caralie: do you have an ubuntu support question? [00:06] is this a virus ? [00:06] yes i got this by my email [00:07] Caralie: it is spam, please don't share it in #debian or #ubuntu or elsewhere [00:07] I am on a modem Sveta _if_ my package manager tells me that it can install it, i still need like a week to install it. [00:07] Bashing-om: hey, some people just wanna sit back airgapped and play widelands while they watch the world burn xD [00:07] Caralie: so you just posted something here which you assume may be "a virus"? please think twice before doing so next time, [00:07] ok [00:07] Elw3: does your ISP have a debian mirror? [00:07] Hence i ask so many weird questions, apt-get update takes 10 minutes alone so i cant check trivial stuff... [00:08] i dump windows because of viruses ... does uubuntu have viruses too ? [00:08] Elw3: holy moly [00:08] ISPs have mirrors? [00:08] Elw3: a few; eg https://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/ [00:08] Caralie: yes, but the software install venues are guaranteed to be safe - a major attack vector for viruses on windows [00:09] !virus | Caralie [00:09] Caralie: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus === ezri is now known as dax [00:09] Elw3: some will have a mirror for their own use, since usually they'll have a bunch of machines themselves, and may offer it to their users, too, to reduce traffic out of their network [00:10] Well my isp... i am on a sim card on modem speed... soo [00:13] Elw3: if you like, join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic-de and we can see if there are better options for your internet access for the same price you'Re paying now. [00:14] the second one whould have been #ubuntu-de-offtopic actually [00:17] Anybody experienced with UEFI issues? I'm trying to install on a new HP laptop. In EFI mode, after install it defaults to attempting to repair the no-longer-present windows, and needs a button combination before POST to select it. Installing in Legacy Support (BIOS/MBR) mode, GRUB freezes on startup. [00:18] Which of those sounds more easily fixable? I've installed in the latter way at the moment. [00:23] Andy-D: What shows ' efibootmgr -v ' ? [00:24] Bashing-om: is that something for console in-system? I can't boot it at the moment. Do you suggest I go back into EFI mode and try that on liveusb? [00:26] Andy-D: I have the thought that the Windows boot code is still present in the EFI partition. Now to trouble shoot further will take one more experienced than I :( [00:27] Andy-D: some UEFI systems these days require you to explicitly *trust* the GRUB boot-loader files, usually via an option in their firmware Security options related to Secure Boot [00:27] Bashing-om: yeah, I tried formatting the whole drive hoping to wipe that out, but maybe that didn't succeed >.< [00:27] i installed refind from a live usb, but it only allows booting to the livecd. how do i configure it to boot from the SSD? [00:28] TJ-: I didn't see a way to add keys to secureboot in a custom mode, but used an option to disable it [00:28] Andy-D: I an sure there is a means to mount that install's /efi/ partition and look . But I have not done it and do not know. [00:28] Andy-D: what I'm describing is something different, some firmware has a file browser that pops up when you choose the "trust" option and you have to navigate to and choose the GRUB boot files [00:29] TJ-: I don't think this one does. I had to use BIOS options to disable SB and TPM [00:30] Andy-D: for UEFI mode, assuming the Ubuntu booted in UEFI mode, the installer will have (tried to) add itself as an entry in the EFI boot menu, and set itself as the default. That can be broken if the firmware refuses it, or doesn't trust the bootloader file [00:32] TJ-: It was added to the EFI menu, but it wasn't default. The system defaulted to attempting to repair windows [00:33] Andy-D: would it boot to Ubuntu if you choose it from the boot menu? [00:35] TJ-: embarrassingly, I don't remember whether I tried, but I think so [00:36] asking in another channel atm and it looks like I may have to switch back to EFI mode and attempt to restore w10 before continuing :/ [00:36] Andy-D: well that would be the first thing to determine; if it boots but is not default that is a very different issue to not booting Ubuntu at all [00:37] Andy-D: it could be that the 'trust' issue is affecting it, so firmware boot-manager fails to boot Ubuntu so tries to boot the Windows entry instead, finds it is broken, and goes into repair mode [00:37] is there a way i can install a different version of Ubuntu onto my harddrive from say an older live cd? [00:37] without burning a disc? [00:37] like stream a OS install [00:37] lakitu: yes, using a virtual machine [00:37] net install is what you need [00:37] k - let me look up net install first [00:39] TJ-: just getting it set as default was the issue for me, a possible minor daily nuisance to solve. It's getting late here now though so may try at it tomorrow, thanks [00:40] Andy-D: use efibootmgr to try to set it as default - that is the tool the installer uses [00:40] TJ-: installer as in ubuntu installer? [00:40] or as in windows? [00:41] lakitu: you can also use e.g. "debootstrap trusty /target-trusty/ http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" [00:42] Andy-D: the Ubuntu installer calls the 'efibootmgr' tool to add itself to the firmware boot-manager [00:42] lakitu: and once it has installed you can do "chroot /target-trusty /bin/bash" [00:43] thanks [00:43] TJ-: if i do that from inside a live cd shell, i can run the installer from there? [00:45] lakitu: 'debootstrap' is the 'debian bootstrap' tool that builds a minimal installed set of packages. It's not the GUI installer program in any way (that program is 'ubiquity') [00:45] ok [00:47] lakitu: as I said, use a virtual machine if you want to install from a liveISO image [00:49] ok, maybe i'll try that [00:49] thanks === zbenjamin is now known as Guest83239 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === gnomethrower is now known as wings [01:31] Is it possible to use OneDrive folders on Ubuntu 18.04? [01:33] mannylnj https://medium.com/@glmdev/onedrive-sync-for-linux-ubuntu-2bcbf6777ee4 [01:33] https://www.maketecheasier.com/sync-onedrive-linux/ [01:33] https://askubuntu.com/questions/958406/how-to-setup-onedrive-in-ubuntu-17-04 [01:34] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/02/insync-support-onedrive-linux-client [01:34] https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/07/how-to-mount-onedrive-in-linux-using.html [01:34] activist, thank you. They weren't comming uo wjhen I searched [01:34] Which search engine are you using? [01:34] activist, Bing [01:34] Uhh [01:34] Dont' use that. [01:35] Startpage, Qwant, DuckDuckGo, Searx (they have lots of instances and you need to trust one of them). These are good options. [01:40] Thanks for the help. I am reading now [01:48] Why does my gnome-terminal window background show through when vim is running? [01:48] screenshot: https://snag.gy/UnhQoz.jpg [01:51] I wanted to say thanks. Unfortunately no solution will work for me because the One Drive account is through my college and none of the options work with that type of account\. [01:51] if I set a ForceCommand for a user match with sshd, will it forward -all- requests for the git user, and offload the authentication to the upstream server? [01:53] so really just acting as a proxy for the git user, no handshake? [01:55] I am looking along these lines: https://serverfault.com/a/569265 but will this require me to duplicate keys in both sshd servers? [01:55] gbellinoz: you mean the little strip along the right edge? [01:57] or this: https://askubuntu.com/a/649736, but it seems to me like you would need to maintain access/authentication at both locations instead of just proxying along and offloading that to the next upstream [01:57] hi, i just tried to connect my phone to ubuntu studio 19.04 and it crashed [01:57] crashed the file browser [01:57] jayjo: ForceCommand applies to what happens after authentication, there's no way it can be applied before. [01:57] is there some known issue with USB to android connection? [02:00] Keres: see whether the dmesg command has any related information on what happened. use a !pastebin or !pastebinit to share it, if you feel like doing so. [02:01] ok, i started with a family members phone, which crashed the file browser... then i tried mine. after i shut down some windows here and tried my phone again, its working fine. [02:01] so it's probably her phone [02:02] note that there is also #ubuntu-studio - but whatever happens there should never crash any process on ubuntu. [02:02] !bug [02:02] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:06] yeah, i dono, dmesg sais something about power reset on the device... probably some software on her phone that is glitched out [02:07] my phone is working perfect now [02:09] Earlier I was told that using ForceCommand makes it hard to manage the key on the bastion host, which I see mentioned here as well; https://serverfault.com/a/703962 but I don't understand why. Is it difficult to manage it on the bastion because you're forced to proxy right through, and tools like ssh-copy-id wont work properly? Or Some other reason? [02:16] ok, trying the samsung phone with the problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rNwwBk6qXF/ [02:20] sarnold: sorry, yes. [02:22] gbellinoz: the usual story is that the terminal 'field' has to be a multiple of the font size.. so if you're using a 20x10 font, then it's going to have to fill in 'wasted' space if the window size isn't a perfect multiple of 10 in one dimension, 20 in the other dimension, plus whatever is needed for decorations [02:56] sarnold: yep, makes sense, except xterm does it fine (perfect fit). When I resize both windows, I can see them both jumping by a font width. [02:57] gbellinoz: oh curious! I was assuming gnome-terminal wasn't going to constrain its size in that fashion. [02:59] It's all part of a time-wasting modernizing effort I'm procrastinating with :) [02:59] Get powerline fonts installed, switch from xterm to gnome-terminal so they render properly... [02:59] real valuable! [03:01] rofl :D [03:01] I get it thoug [03:29] Hi guys, it looks like the ca-certificates bundles of Ubuntu 18.04 is kinda outdated [03:29] I curl https://kalunite.net:1443 and it doesn't recognise the cert [03:29] (It's issued under Let's Encrypt Authority X3) [03:30] What's the best way of fixing that? [03:31] Even the immuniweb SSL tester says my site is at least A- rating: https://www.immuniweb.com/ssl/?id=8uypYriX [03:31] k_sze[work]: is that your system? [03:31] sarnold, yes [03:31] k_sze[work]: can you pop it up on 443 so qualys would scan it? [03:33] 443 is a different service [03:33] Would you like me to make qualys scan my port 1443 instead? [03:35] qualys won't :( I tried [03:35] they're fantastic at spotting misconfigurations, 99% of the time it's just a misconfigured chain, and they point it out pretty clearly [03:36] https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=kalunite.net [03:36] The thing is port 1443 is my ZNC bouncer's web admin UI. [03:36] And the documentation says to point ZNC to the cert.pem. [03:36] Maybe I should make it point to fullchain.pem instead or something? [03:37] yeah, try that [03:37] My main blog on port 443 is absolutely fine even for curl [04:22] I am going on 24 hrs non stop struggling with getting this system running. it's been running fine for 1 yr then after a reboot yesterday i got ""no OS found". [04:22] I have backups of everything but the /boot partition [04:22] i'm afraid reinstalling will take way too much reconfiguration... at least a week [04:23] wholesum: desktop or server? [04:24] server 18.04.1 [04:24] wholesum: please remain in #ubuntu-server then, try to avoid cross posting [04:24] lotuspsychje: i already asked there they told me to come here [05:08] How can i get the installer to default to efi-grub during install [05:10] lapion: Boot the install medium in EFI mode - and the installer will so install. [05:35] Bashing-om, nope it will continue trying to install grub-mbr [05:39] I even pointed the system during the partitionning toward the efi partition === iMadper is now known as iMadper|AAFFFKKK === iMadper|AAFFFKKK is now known as WhatsGoingOn [05:58] Hi, suddenly, whenever sound is supposed to be played, I just get a loud noise [05:59] pulseaudio -k doesnt help, loud, kind of like when TV is not on the right channel, is present during booting in grub as well. [06:00] I didnt touch any settings or updated any program, the only thing I did is install gimp through snap, but the problem might have happened before or after that. [06:00] Ubuntu 18.04 [06:00] have you tried different speakers or headphones? [06:01] I don't have different speakers or headphones available here. This is work laptop. [06:01] (and I am on business trip). [06:01] maybe someone else can help you [06:02] I am supposed to skype with my with in an hour:( [06:02] The volume of that sound is constant, changing the volume does nothing to that sound. [06:03] "is present during booting in grub as well." Does it mean that you can hear the same noise at grub stage? [06:04] Exactly. [06:04] It's more like a hardware error then... [06:04] fuck. [06:05] I was afraid that someone would say so. [06:05] Basically, any time any sound is supposed to be playing (such as in grub?) I get the same sound. [06:05] normally you have sound played in grub? [06:07] Never noticed any sound in grub. [06:07] But I guess that some beep sounds are possible? [06:10] Even it possible, it should be mute by default... [06:13] WTF? I don't know what happened, but it works normally now? I removed Gimp (since that was the only change) and turned off computer and now it works? [06:14] Before, I restarted 4 times and it did nothing. But one of those two things helped? Maybe? [06:14] Colombo: Hmmm.... congratulations anyway... [06:14] Sometimes, I don't understand computers. [06:14] I try if I can replicate it again. [06:14] probably should wait on that until after your call [06:14] :) [06:14] +10086 [06:15] Colombo, do you by chance have mypaint installed [06:15] I havent even heard about mypaint. And it seems that I dont have it installed. === sins-_q is now known as sins- [06:16] Colombo, ok, I got here late, wasnt sure of the issue [06:17] gimp back on, but sound not gimped. Maybe momentary weakness? [06:18] sudo apt search momentary-weakness ") === neunon_ is now known as neunon [07:45] got an ancient Dell PowerEdge 1950 server with a "Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC", Debian 9 and CentOS6 both get around 500 mbit upload speed and 800mbit download speed, which is expected, but Ubuntu 18.04 only get 4mbit upload speed (and 800mbit download speed) [07:45] i have re-installed 18.04 twice to confirm that it's not just a configuration issue [07:45] what the hell? [07:47] (PowerEdge 1950 is a very old server tho, released around 2007) [07:48] .. also using 64bit OS in all instances (Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian 9 and CentOS6 were all 64bit) [07:48] Best guess would be that they use different modules for some reason? but I don't know why ubuntu would use say a propietary driver for broadcom and the others in-kernel free drivers. I mean, it's a NIC not WLAN card [07:49] but first thing I'd check if it's the same module used [07:52] lsmod? [07:52] or how can i check? [07:52] yes [07:52] also lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999 [07:54] that gave me https://termbin.com/078h [07:54] on a Debian 9 (which gets the expected speed) [07:54] guess i should run Ubuntu again and do the same? [07:55] (and it has 4 network cards, that is correct, but only 1 of the Broadcom cards are actually in use, the others are not.. except 1 of them is probably the DRAC/iDRAC) [07:56] (anyhow, the speed problem is with 1 of the Broadcom network cards) [07:58] hans_: yes, compare on both systems [07:58] also kernel versions can matter [07:59] hans_: also explain how you tested throughput. [08:14] tomreyn, i tested it with speedtest-cli, here's a comparison: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084339 === gislaved73 is now known as gislaved [08:14] unfortunately the ubuntu lspci is going to take over an hour to get [08:15] tomreyn, i can't really explain the KM difference, but i think it just guesses that based on ping time (idk though) [08:16] also it's a busy network so the download speed difference is expected [08:16] not sure how it guesses this, the differences in latencyare remarkable, though [08:17] .. yes [08:17] the download speed difference is marginal, upload speed and latency differences are massive. [08:17] how the hell did that latency difference happen [08:17] now i'd be willing to blame speedtest.net [08:18] or the different (?) / congested (?) route you had between those tests. [08:18] you'd better test this locally, if that's an option [08:30] How do I bind multiple ip addresses to a single interface using the new network naming scheme [08:46] nonedead: depends on what you're using to configure / manage networking. choices are network-manager (usually used on desktops) and systemd-networkd (usually used on servers), optionally with netplan. === Jonopoly_ is now known as jonopoly === jonopoly is now known as dddd === dddd is now known as Jonopoly [09:25] tomreyn: I'm using network-manager on cli [09:31] free security patches for 18.04 will end in april 2023 right? [09:31] nonedead: you can nmcli con mod "Name of existing Connection Profile" and add, in the IPv4 or IPv6 section, add addressN=IP_address,gateway [09:31] hans_: correct [09:32] nonedead: ...where N in 'addressN' is a counter, starting at 1. [09:34] 18.04 is supported for 10 years instead of the normal 5 [09:35] Ben64, but is it free? or is "5 years free" and "5 more years if you pay canonical" ? [09:35] hi all, i want to upload files with the browser to a webside, e.g. files for my job search, but ubuntu says "permission denied" , can anyone help me with it? [09:35] always free [09:36] Ben64: hmm not really, no [09:36] not really what [09:36] 5 years free, 5 years esm [09:37] ew [09:38] tuxi: which part of ubuntu does say "permission denied" where? [09:39] when i tried to upload files to a webside [09:39] > Ubuntu’s founder Mark Shuttleworth announced this news in a keynote at OpenStack Summit in Berlin. > I’m delighted to announce that Ubuntu 18.04 will be supported for a full 10 years. [09:39] that's a weird thing to say if the 10 year thing started before 18.04 [09:39] tuxi: actually this sounds like you're trying to upload file which your web browser (probably running as your system user) isn't allowed to access those files you are trying to upload. [09:40] it's a weird thing to say and not clarify [09:40] ok tomreyn i do not know what to do, my english is not the best to understand though [09:41] hans_: 18.04 has 5 years of standard security maintenance, and a further 5 years extended security maintenance (like we extended for 14.04) [09:42] tuxi: are you able to view the files from your desktop? [09:43] yes i have normaly access to the usb stick, but if i want to upload something from the usb stick into a webside its says permission denied, otherwise i copied the files to my harddrive the webbrowser can access an upload it to the homepage [09:44] tuxi: which webbrowser are you using? [09:44] i have this with root and with normal user account, so it does not matter which account i am using [09:44] firefox 67.0 and ubuntu 19.04 amd64bit [09:45] tuxi: what does apt list --installed firefox && snap list firefox report? [09:46] !paste | tuxi [09:46] tuxi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:48] ok [09:48] i can do that as an admin, by now i am normal user account [09:48] ok i will try it later thank you so far [09:54] tuxi: i assume you are using the firefox snap installation, not the firefox apt package installation. snaps are, i think, restricted to your home directory by default, would not be abllowed to access your usb (but this can be modified, i think). the apt installation would be allowed to access your USB, too, if your user can normally access it there. [09:54] Chaekyung, switched back to Ubuntu 18.04 now, and the speed issue is back as expected.. but the module *name* is the same, http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084354 [09:55] tomreyn ok [09:55] tuxi: snap connect firefox:removable-media (is the command tomreyn is talking about) [09:55] the firefox was in the ubuntu integradet - so i needn't to install it manually [09:55] tomreyn, the ping is still significantly lower on Ubuntu, but now it's 10ms<->30ms instead of the previous 3ms<->30ms, it seems. and again, upload speed issue on ubuntu persists (which is not present on CentOS or Debian) [09:56] hans_: can you test locally? [09:56] no i can't. the server is in Canada, i am in Norway =/ [09:57] or what do you mean locally? [09:58] hans_: that's not what i mean. can you transfer data over the NIC between this system and another system (in- or outbound) which is topographically close to it? [09:58] popey do i have to put this comand into the bash or in about:config in firefox? [09:58] tuxi: in a terminal [09:59] hans_: can you disclose the hosting provider? [09:59] ok ty i will try [10:00] hmm the terminal showed up a admin login windows, as i typed in the password, it dissappeard but the terminal did not show any information ...it showed nothing :-( [10:01] tomreyn, it's neither a well-known one nor a reputable one, the provider is cloudatcost.com , and i believe the name of the datacenter is datacity, https://datacity.ca/ , i think the physical location of the server is 440 PHILLIP ST, WATERLOO, Canada [10:02] tuxi: you can run "snap connections firefox" and you should see :removable-media in the Slot column, and manual in the Notes column [10:02] popey ok will try it again brb [10:04] popey this is what i received : removable-media firefox:removable-media :removable-media manual [10:04] tuxi: that worked [10:04] tomreyn, i got a VPS nearby if that'll suffice [10:04] otherwise, the nearest server i got is in France, i think =/ [10:05] popey ok but the files uploading via webbrower is not working [10:06] hans_: oh you had actually posted the servers' ip address earlier, i had missed that. you could run an iperf test between the dedicated server and your VM to see whether you can get a lower latency and faster upload while the dedicated runs ubuntu. [10:07] tomreyn, iperf test? [10:07] hans_: https://www.tecmint.com/test-network-throughput-in-linux/ [10:08] hans_: if installing iperf on both ends is not an option you can try with dd + netcat (nc) as discussed as an alternative here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/7976/how-do-you-test-the-network-speed-between-two-boxes [10:08] that sounds easier but shouldn't be a problem to run iperf on both ends [10:09] oh no [10:09] iperf has few dependencies, installing and removing it via apt is quick and easy [10:09] iperf is certainly my go-to for testing raw throughput on Ubuntu. [10:12] hans_: also see what ip -s link show INTERFACE reports for your network INTERFACE. [10:13] tomreyn, idk what it says on debian but on 18.04 it says Device "INTERFACE" does not exist. [10:13] I am in a ssh session with other machine, if the line drops, what will happen to the command running in the remote machine in the ssh session as the ssh session is lost? [10:13] hans_: replace INTERFACE by the name of your network interface [10:14] hans_: this is #ubuntu by the way. [10:15] tomreyn, yup, but the problem is present in Ubuntu, but not present in Debian, so to find the Ubuntu-issue, the output from debian (where the problem is not present) could also be interesting, idk [10:15] ah sec [10:16] pavlushka: the command will continue to run until it notices that its terminal was lost (potentially never). use nohup or a terminal multiplexer (screen, byobu, tmux) to prevent this. [10:17] tomreyn, the command "ip -s link show enp12s0f0 | pastebinit" gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BqCg78kVyX/ [10:17] * pavlushka noted [10:17] hans_: ah i got you wrong there about debian / ubuntu, sorry. [10:17] oh wait [10:17] ah yeah i'm pretty sure enp12s0f0 is the correct device [10:19] tomreyn, here is what i get from the VPS that is close to the server, http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084360 , that should be sufficient? [10:19] (to run the iperf3 test?) [10:20] hans_: yes, i'd say so, if the connectivity between the two is fine. [10:20] i don't actually know, but i assume it is, the ping from the VPS to the server is about 0.3 milliseconds [10:21] so they're i the same DC, good. [10:21] (also tested the other way, ping from server to VPS is also about 0.3-0.4 milliseconds) [10:22] ok ill try the iperf3 tests you linked to [10:24] ok. by the way, when you use speedtest-cli to compare throughput from a fixed / same location, make sure you use the same test servers. the utility allows you to specify which test server to use by providing its ID. a list of those IDs is available at https://www.speedtestserver.com/ [10:24] tomreyn, so, on the VPS i run "iperf3 -s -f K" and on the server i run "iperf 3 -c *IP*-f K" , or the other way around, or [10:25] or perhaps it doesn't even matter? [10:25] hans_: right, if's you're happy with KB/s [10:26] well what should i use? [10:26] M? [10:26] ok i'll use M instead of K [10:26] speedtest.net provided Mbps [10:26] so -f m [10:27] ok, lowercase m [10:31] tomreyn, here's the output running 18.04: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084366 [10:31] think i should run the same test with debian and compare? [10:32] hans_: run in reverse mode first [10:32] or.. idk but those numbers looks high [10:32] -R [10:32] add -R to the -c one? [10:33] or -R on both [10:33] it's all nicely described on the pages i pointed oyu to earlier [10:33] oh ok [10:33] the client defines the mode of operation, no need to change the server. [10:35] tomreyn, here is with -R http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084367 [10:35] still looks like high numbers to me [10:36] hans_: right, so there's no issue other than with one of the speedtest.net servers you had tried with. [10:36] (or the connection / route to that) [10:37] you got a gigabit link and can saturate it nicely. [10:42] tomreyn, there is something fishy here.. http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084368 [10:42] rebooted in debian 9, and using "speedtest-cli --server 18646" each time [10:43] same module, eh [10:43] Chaekyung, yes [10:43] That's a really odd one because download speed is fine on both cases [10:44] it's like you're on half duplex? [10:44] that could be, i honestly don't know [10:44] also significant ping difference, weird stuff [10:44] hans_: your iperf test results are fine, i don't care about speedtest.net [10:44] ethtool would show that btw [10:45] ethtool? [10:46] yes you run ethtool enp5s0 or ethtool eth0 or whatever and it shows some information. must be root [10:47] but I honestly don't know what would be the cause there. that it's a difference between two distros rules out network cable and the usual stuff I'd guess [10:47] i think i will try a nginx sparse file download test from both [10:50] Hi folks [10:57] tomreyn, Chaekyung, thanks so much for helping me debug it. seems there's just something wacky about running speedtest-cli on Ubuntu, because the issues does not reproduce with iperf3, and it does not reproduce on nginx+sparse file, http://paste.debian.net/plain/1084370 [11:02] yw [11:04] i wonder if the issue is reproducible with whatever python-http library that speedtest-cli is using though [11:06] anyone know what speedtest-cli code is used by Ubuntu? going by a github search, there's several of projects under the name "speedtest-cli" (for example https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli and https://github.com/haibbo/speedtest-cli , 2 separate implementations with the same name) [11:15] hans_: apt show speedtest-cli or https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/speedtest-cli [11:16] Hey Guys i want to remove the current swap memory and create a new swap file with 8GB in it, the 2nd part i know, but i how i "disable?" the current swap or delete it or what not ? [11:17] Ubuntu18.04 ^ [11:17] achen_: cat /proc/swaps to see which are active, swapoff /path/to/swapdevice to disable it (be sure to have sufficient spare memory) [11:18] + comment it out in /etc/fstab [11:19] tomreyn : is it the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 none swap sw 0 0 line in /etc/fstab? [11:20] tomreyn : picture for better illustartion : https://www.screencast.com/t/Ot3gMDHPUV [11:21] achen_: that's an LVM2 logical volume containing a swap file system. it is not a swap file (which is what you said earlier). [11:22] tomreyn : i said i want to delete the current swap *memory* :3 i meant the one that comes default when choosing LVM sorry for misinterpetting [11:23] achen_: oh right, sorry, my mistake, you said you want to replace what you have by a file. [11:24] tomreyn : its coolio, can we do that tho? (do i need to the delete the LVM file after disabling the memory ?) [11:24] achen_: so sudo swapoff /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1; sudo lvchange -an vg/swap_1; sudo lvremove vg/swap_1 [11:24] achen_: so sudo swapoff /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1; sudo lvchange -an ubuntu-vg/swap_1; sudo lvremove ubuntu-vg/swap_1 [11:25] ^ this rather [11:25] achen_: run those one by one, i should have linked those commands with "&&" rather than ";" [11:25] Can we actually just turn it back on , and extend it instead of making a *new* file ? [11:26] achen_: sure, if there's sufficient unallocated space available in this VG? [11:27] sudo vgs ubuntu-vg [11:28] "VFree" indicates available unallocated (to LVs) space. [11:28] tomreyn : https://www.screencast.com/t/1WNvRSf6ek [11:29] achen_: as you could have spotted, it says 0 for VFree. [11:29] tomreyn : ohh i understand.. [11:29] tomreyn : meaning we can't expand it actually and we'll have to create a file instead [11:30] achen_: unless you can make more space available by other means, such as by shrinking or deleting other existing LVs, yes [11:31] tomreyn : okay im going with it, tried running the first command and got an unknown VG : https://www.screencast.com/t/wh8YDYV0 [11:31] achen_: i made a mistake the first tie around, so i corrected myself [11:32] tiMe [11:32] Greetings, is there a way to configure grub to output to serial too in ubuntu 18.10? [11:32] achen_: use this: sudo swapoff /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 && sudo lvchange -an ubuntu-vg/swap_1 && sudo lvremove ubuntu-vg/swap_1 [11:34] tomreyn : https://www.screencast.com/t/3942qqfZv [11:35] daggs1: try #ubuntu-server if you cannot get a response here. [11:36] hello [11:36] achen_: which active swpas do you have now? [11:36] * swaps [11:36] hi vavkamil [11:36] tomreyn : i think none, since we disabled the thing with ( " swapoff /dev/dm-1 [11:36] " ) but how can we check regardleass ? [11:37] achen_: sure, you can check. i explained how you can check initially [11:37] daggs1: the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/working_with_the_serial_console#GRUB2_and_systemd are fine for ubuntu as well - you can just update-grub rather than running grub-mkconfig by hand [11:37] welcome vavkamil how can we help you? [11:37] I plugged in second monitor and I'm little bit confused. Apps are opening on the second one, not on primary [11:37] tds, will look at it, thanks [11:37] vavkamil: did you 'mirror' your screen in system settings? [11:38] tomreyn : right now with cat /proc/swaps none are active [11:38] tomreyn : but still we have that line in fstab should we do something about it ? or any other thing im not aware off after disabling swap ? [11:38] I used "join displays", primary is on center, second on left [11:39] vavkamil: try switching settings, see what effect it has on your apps [11:39] achen_: so if you'd like to remove the logical volume, you need yet to run: sudo lvchange -an ubuntu-vg/swap_1 && sudo lvremove ubuntu-vg/swap_1 [11:39] tds, after running update-grub, do I need to see the work serial in /boot/grub/grub.cfg? [11:39] achen_: and yes, you also need to comment or remove the line about this swap file system in /etc/fstab [11:40] daggs1: you should see the serial config generated there, yes [11:40] lotuspsychje, already tried it, googling suggested to try compizconfig, so I did. I enabled "Place windows" and set "use output device with pointer". so apps should be opening on the primary display where my cursor is, but everything is still keeps opening on the second display [11:41] I suppose it's some ubuntu bug, but might be wrong [11:42] tds, I don't see any [11:43] daggs1: hmm, could you pastebin the contents of /etc/default/grub and the generated grub.cfg? [11:43] sec [11:44] achen_: hope this worked out fine for you, i'll leave for now - see you. [11:45] tomreyn : worked perfectly, thanks alot for your time and help friend :) appreciated [11:45] achen_: you're welcome. [11:46] tds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cd78hw7YHp/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QxRbv7MJnS/ [11:48] hmm, you've got half the config generated properly at least [11:49] that grub_serial_command line is almost identical (other than baud rate) to a working box I've got here, hmm [11:50] hello [11:50] piraye: you made it! [11:50] piraye: that was a long reboot :p [11:50]