/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/05/30/#lubuntu-devel.txt

lubot<HMollerCl> Wxl: mmm I didn't create the script, it should be created by dh00:55
lubot<HMollerCl> was a line in d/control, X-Python3-Version: >= 3.X that created this strange script01:09
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 repo is ready https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/01:22
lubot<HMollerCl> please let me know your comments01:23
lubot<HMollerCl> copyright file is empty, don't know what to put in there01:54
lubot<teward001> copyright empty is a policy violation heh16:47
lubot<HMollerCl> yup, and I can't fixed from here, my proxy doesn't let me connect to ssh repository.17:01
lynorianstandup?21:05
lubot<SamuelBanya> Got any jokes?21:06
lubot<SamuelBanya> Just kidding21:06
lubot<SamuelBanya> I'm here21:06
lubot<SamuelBanya> I didn't get to work on that repo last week but plan on utilizing the specific Riverbank docs that Hans provided in addition to just using dot operators wherever possible21:07
wxlah yes the meeting21:08
wxl!standup21:08
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting!21:08
lynorian\o21:09
lubot<kc2bez> O/21:10
wxlthat all we got?21:11
wxllooks like it21:11
wxlgo lynorian 21:11
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm here too21:12
lynorianI added a screenshot for changing the cursor on the appearnce changer21:13
lynorianadded qps prefrences screnshot21:15
lynorianadded styling to the installer21:16
lynorianI added a ton of new detail for manual partitioning in the installer21:17
lynorianI added how to toggle the menu in qterminal21:17
lynorianI added more to quassel prefrences and options for zooming in and out of the text21:18
lynorianoptions for right clicking on folders in pcmanfm-qt21:19
lynorianmargins for desktop icons21:19
lynorianAdded viewing for list playinst modes for vlc21:20
lynoriansearchbar and renaming notes for Noblenote21:20
lynorianend of what I did21:21
wxlwow21:22
wxlgreat job as usual lyn21:22
wxlyou also helped me figure out how to help with the manual (more on that later)21:22
wxl:)21:22
wxlgo @kc2bez21:22
lynorianyep21:22
lubot<kc2bez> Sorry on my phone so no paste21:22
wxlno prob21:23
lubot<kc2bez> Daily iso testing reveals that the install still fails21:23
lubot<kc2bez> Pushed cala 3.2.7 to phab for review21:24
lubot<kc2bez> That is it from me.21:24
wxlthanks. those are both two things i'd like to work on but it's been crazy for me21:25
wxl@HMollerCl you're up21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> ok21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> I could succesfully package lubuntu-updadte-notifier.21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> I uploaded the files for packaging to the repository https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/ but the copyright file is still empty because yesterday I hadn't decided which tou use. Today I decided for GNU GPL2 but from here I cannot update.21:25
wxlyay!!! gold star!21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> Please your comments on it and if something else is needed.21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> My concern on style is that I didn'ty use teh desktop.in method with disutils-extras, I used plain .desktop with .install. From what I read it should work, but if that the case why someone would use .desktop.in?21:26
wxli don't think that matters21:26
wxlthere's like 3 different packaging mechanisms. it's the way of linux: choices21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> ok21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> so, that's for me21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> EOL21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> EOF21:27
wxlwhy can't you update? because of the firewall?21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, proxy didn't le my connect to ssh port 222221:28
lubot<HMollerCl> AAA I have some doubt with the text it shows21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> currently when upgrade is available it says "There are upgrades available. Do you want to do a system upgrade?\nThis will upgrade, install and remove packages"21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> and if they press upgrade it launcehs a full-upgrade21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> (not a safe-upgrade)21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> Do you think is that ok?21:29
wxlhm21:30
wxldo we know what the normal system does?21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> aaa, and I also tryed to edit the file directly in the browser but it says I don't have the privileges to do it.21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> do we know what the normal system does?], normal system is ubuntu?21:31
wxl@tsimonq2: i see that cala settings and some other packages we've made code for are GPL3. is that our default license?21:31
wxlyeah21:31
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: i see that cala settings and some other packages we've made cod …], Usually21:31
wxli'll add that to the guide21:31
lubot<tsimonq2> I wouldn't encourage more open licenses as much21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> I could use that to, I pick up GPL2 because it is what aptdaemon is using21:32
wxlbtw @HMollerCl here's what i was talking about with regards to the different build systems.. you'll notice that though dh is by far the winner, people are still using other stuff https://trends.debian.net/build-system.png21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> teh way that 18.04 and ubuntu works is this: apt-check check which packages has uipgrades with full-upgrade first. If that doesn't involve removing packages it continues with those pakcages. If that involves removing some pakcages, it runs a safe-upgrade to check with packages will be available for upgrade.21:35
wxlok so my list is pretty short:21:35
wxl   * Added task to add Solved plugin to Discourse https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8221:35
wxl   * Generalized the upgrading page in the manual https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfb5fe5788e4624721f4aaa3695d1deb8c0878be021:35
wxl   * Made a blog post announcing Discourse https://lubuntu.me/discourse/21:35
lubot<acheronuk> @HMollerCl [My concern on style is that I didn'ty use teh desktop.in method with disutils-ex …], Often used where there is a substitution to be made at build time21:35
wxl@HMollerCl is there a reason for us to not follow the same?21:36
wxlbrb21:36
lubot<acheronuk> For example, the update-notifier.desktop.on has substitutions … _Name=Update Notifier … _Comment=Check for available updates automatically21:36
lubot<acheronuk> which at build time are replaced by all the current transaltions of those to make the real .destop21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl is there a reason for us to not follow the same?], that I couldn't make it work, it use disutils-extras which doesn't have much documentation21:37
lubot<acheronuk> just compare the .in in packaging with the .desktop from the .deb21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks @acheronuk at least in this case transalatiosn are not needed it's a .desktop for autostart.21:38
lubot<HMollerCl> but maybe that's why it didn't work, I didn't use transaltions21:38
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 is this license? https://choosealicense.com/licenses/gpl-3.0/21:42
lubot<lynorian> that is v321:42
lynoriannot the same21:42
wxli thought that's what we wanted?21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> apparently is the same https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html21:45
lubot<HMollerCl> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html21:46
lubot<HMollerCl> anyway, besides the license, what's next?21:48
wxlwell we can continue that discussion but unless anything has something to add to the standup, let's call that done, eh?21:48
wxlwell the copyright is like the most important and difficult thing21:49
wxldid you use licensecheck?21:49
lubot<HMollerCl> no, didn't knew it existed21:49
wxlprobably unnecessary if it's all fresh code21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> it's fresh, but import modules21:50
wxlyeah i'm not sure how that works exactly21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> and calls apt_check.py (from update-notifier-common))21:51
wxlperhaps @tsimonq2 can find some time in his schedule to help21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, what about the text? You think is ok? Need some changes?  "There are upgrades available. Do you want to do a system upgrade?\nThis will upgrade, install and remove packages"21:52
wxlhow about "This will mean packages could be upgraded, installed, or removed."21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> i like it21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: how to check if it will be build?22:05
lubot<HMollerCl> I mean, how is buid in teh system22:05
wxlprobably need to check with @tsimonq2 22:09
wxl@teward001 any reason i shouldn't just click upgrade on this new discourse version/22:54
wxlincludes security updates22:55
wxloooh and joins over in ()s 22:57
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 any reason i shouldn't just click upgrade on this new discourse …], Because I just did before reading your message22:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Done22:59

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