=== lubuntu is now known as Guest40707
=== Guest40707 is now known as lubuntu
[09:21] <lubot> <plyr0> Is it possible to make runner work just by typing on the desktop, that is without first pressing alt+f2
[12:39] <ssarah> on the latest lubuntu how to enable the tile window to right or left or bottom or down shortcuts?
[12:39] <ssarah> (hi hi :)
[12:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @ssarah [<ssarah> on the latest lubuntu how to enable the tile window to right or left or …], Would have to change the openbox configuration
[12:44] <ssarah> yeh, i tried that, didnt work, i'll try it again
[13:15] <iffraff> Hi can someone help me trouble shoot this? the big picture is, I have an hp spectre with ubuntu 19.04 on it.  It's connected to a dock via thunderbolt. it has two 4k monitors connected to the dock, but only one will work at a time.
[13:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @ssarah [<ssarah> yeh, i tried that, didnt work, i'll try it again], thi thing is that the windows key or super_l conflicts with some other uses, try to use another key or don't use that key for menu open.
[13:49] <ssarah> ty
[13:49] <ssarah> :)
[16:48] <sappheiros> found unexpected behavior in 18.10
[16:48] <sappheiros> trying to open new tab with the tab bar closed causes terminal to reset
[16:48] <sappheiros> in terminal
[16:49] <sappheiros> whether i click menu item or use keyboard shortcut
[17:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @sappheiros [<sappheiros> found unexpected behavior in 18.10], can you check in 19.04?
[17:19] <sappheiros> lubot: hopefully next month i can upgrade
[17:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @sappheiros [<sappheiros> lubot: hopefully next month i can upgrade], Moving from 18.10 to 19.04 is not a big task
[17:36] <sappheiros> lubot: i don't know a fast way to backup files and i'm preparing to move across the continent and trying to maximize time spent with my family the next week or so
[17:36] <sappheiros> ... so of course i'm chatting on freenode >_>
[18:54] <danieru98> Hello
[18:55] <danieru98> Where could the default configuration for new users be stored on lubuntu?
[18:55] <wxl> what are you trying to change/do?
[18:56] <danieru98> openbox configuration and themes
[18:56] <wxl> ah /etc/xdg
[18:57] <danieru98> for openbox i tried editing the system wide rc.xml file but the new user still got the old default openbox configuration
[18:58] <wxl> that doesn't make any sense. what version you on?
[18:58] <danieru98> lubuntu 18.04
[18:58] <lubot> <lynorian> I think you have one in your home folder copied over
[18:59] <wxl> yeah lyn but i think this is a brand new user, created after the systemwide change
[18:59] <wxl> that doesn't make sense
[18:59] <danieru98> let me try again
[18:59] <lubot> <lynorian> also have you run -openbox --reconfigure or logged back in or out again is one things you need to do with openbox
[19:00] <lubot> <lynorian> openbox --reconfigure
[19:00] <danieru98> i didn't knew that, ill try again
[19:01] <wxl> that's if openbox is currently running of course
[19:01] <danieru98> oh, then that shouldn't had made anything on my first try
[19:02] <danieru98> my first try was directly changing the filesystem.squashfs on the iso by the way
[19:03] <danieru98> need to install lubuntu on 6 computers so having a custom lubuntu iso would be easier on the long run
[19:04] <wxl> yeah it should be /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml
[19:04] <wxl> there's nothing in /etc/skel which would be the other weird thing
[19:06] <wxl> if you look at the value of $XDG_CONFIG_HOME, you'll find it to be $HOME/.config and $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS is /etc/xdg/lubuntu:/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu:/etc/xdg, i.e. when a new user is created, it pulls from those directories, and dumps them into the former
[19:06] <wxl> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
[19:16] <danieru98> you're right, then /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml is the correct file?
[19:17] <wxl> no
[19:17] <wxl> those directories are searched in order
[19:17] <wxl> actually no nevermind that XD
[19:18] <wxl> ~/.config should include both lxqt-rc.xml and rc.xml but the former is only used for lxqt sessions
[19:22] <danieru98> editing /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml did nothing as you probably expected
[19:22] <wxl> right. the lxqt session specifically calls it out
[19:22] <wxl> it's a non-standard filename, so it's not going to pick up on it if you just run openbox without specifying the location
[19:23] <danieru98> but i notice the local config file is called lubuntu-rc.xml, maybe if i search that name on /etc ill find the correct one
[19:23] <danieru98> unless the file is being renamed when copied
[19:24] <wxl> i'd find that odd
[19:24] <wxl> there's no other *rc.xml files in /etc/xdg
[19:30] <danieru98> the only lubuntu-rc.xml files are in the .config of the users
[19:31] <danieru98> just to be sure, lubuntu doesn't use dconf, right?
[19:34] <wxl> looks like it based on $HOME/.config/dconf
[19:43] <danieru98> i couldn't find anything related to openbox config inside that dconf db
[19:46] <danieru98> but editing /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml and /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml and restarting don't have any effect on the openbox config for new users after the restart
[19:46] <wxl> oh i wouldn't expect that
[19:46] <wxl> if a user is already created, then they have a local config
[19:46] <wxl> that local config will take precedence over the global one
[19:47] <wxl> but if you create a new user now, then it SHOULD use the global one
[22:24] <danieru98> I'm sorry I made the wrong question because of my own ignorance. What I should have asked was how to customize lubuntu session. I can probably find out myself now that I know where to look at.
[22:43] <danieru98>  /usr/share/lubuntu/openbox/rc.xml but i guess the correct procedure will be to create a new session