| iffraff | Bashing-om: so it looks like everyting is the same. | 00:00 |
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| iffraff | a couple more pieces of info I opted to have my hard drive encrypted when I installed the os, | 00:00 |
| iffraff | also the last time wehn you had me purge and all that, it asked me to create a password but it never asked me for that password. | 00:01 |
| iffraff | lastly the lshw -C display shows "UNCLAIMED" for every driver except for the nouvoux one. that one does not show the "UNCLAIMED" tag | 00:02 |
| Bashing-om | iffraff: secure boot ? | 00:04 |
| iffraff | yea | 00:04 |
| Bashing-om | iffraff: All I can suggest at this time is to disable secure boot, single monitor connected - purge nvidia and try the autoinstall once more. | 00:07 |
| iffraff | I'm so over secure boot. is there a way to undo it? | 00:08 |
| Bashing-om | iffraff: Is a bios setting to disable secure boot . I have not so can not advise further :( | 00:10 |
| iffraff | Bashing-om: ok, so can you give me a synopsis of what you think the problem or what the symptoms are so that I can start my research from there? ( provided turning off secure boot doesn't help ) | 00:11 |
| Bashing-om | iffraff: All we know for now is "Error: can't access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:3b:00.0/driver". We can look in X's log file see what X relates ` cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ` . | 00:13 |
| mithro | sarnold: Thanks! That is still super helpful | 00:14 |
| mithro | sarnold: What is umt? | 00:14 |
| iffraff | well, I'm actually seeing some google results for installing nvidia with secureboot. It think that is the problem. I really apprecate all your help. it's gotten me a lot closer. | 00:15 |
| Bashing-om | iffraff: Nother thought - Wayland ? what returns ' loginctl show-session c1 -p Type ' ? | 00:16 |
| sarnold | mithro: umt is a swiss-army chainsaw for the security team -- it's a load of wrappers and little scripts to show which versions of a package are in which releases, if they are in main or universe, debian status for those packages; download package sources, change the changelogs, rebuild packages, upload packages.. | 00:16 |
| elagost | Hi all. Any way to set /etc/resolv.conf back to the classic way instead of systemd 127.0.0.53 address? | 00:31 |
| sarnold | elagost: this looks like reasonable instructions, but I haven't tried them https://askubuntu.com/a/907249/33812 | 00:36 |
| mithro | sarnold: Are you able to do the same for clang for me? | 00:37 |
| sarnold | mithro: sure thing | 00:38 |
| elagost | sarnold: Thank you! Hadn't found that one in my duckduckgo-ing yet. Appreciate it. | 00:38 |
| sarnold | mithro: this may be a reasonable starting point for finding what is *default* in different releases https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-defaults/+changelog -- I'll have the supported stuff in a moment, but thought this might be useful too | 00:42 |
| sarnold | mithro: 'full' umt search results http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6rHhPVq3D/ -- and a version filtered on 'main' http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bPYhN2Synh/ | 00:45 |
| Beam_Inn | hello | 00:54 |
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| CarlFK | this works: printf "\r\rrelay on 0\r\c\c\c\c" | tio --output-delay 50 /dev/ttyrelay - adding ">> /home/pi/dev_setup.log" gives Error: Saving current stdio settings failed | 01:10 |
| CarlFK | I don't see anything in tio, but maybe I can use tmux or screen? | 01:10 |
| Beam_Inn | Does it create a danger from attacks originating from the internet if "share this folder" is done without a password? | 01:11 |
| CarlFK | Beam_Inn: do you consider "sharing" an attack? | 01:11 |
| Beam_Inn | well, yeah, if it's not from someone on my intranet | 01:13 |
| Beam_Inn | if it's from someone on my local network, I don't really care if they access my files. | 01:13 |
| Beam_Inn | but, i'm giving them the ability to make and delete folders so | 01:13 |
| CarlFK | will the box ever be "in the whild" (public IP or coffee shop or school...) | 01:14 |
| Beam_Inn | no. | 01:14 |
| Beam_Inn | well, i'm going to use samba anyway, but I'm trying to get a "fast fix" | 01:14 |
| Beam_Inn | I just want to share one file right now so the issue is it's not being shown on a Win10-linux network | 01:14 |
| Beam_Inn | And I'm thinking: maybe it's because the folder I'm sharing isn't a windows-compatible filesystem? | 01:14 |
| Beam_Inn | but i have no idea | 01:15 |
| CarlFK | the fs that stores the data doesn't matter. | 01:15 |
| Beam_Inn | Oh. Well, then I don't know why my win10 pc isn't seeing the linux computer on the network | 01:16 |
| Mead | sooo... is ubuntu patched for this yet? https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/05/advanced-linux-backdoor-found-in-the-wild-escaped-av-detection/ | 01:17 |
| dax | Mead: that's an article about some malware, not a specific security vulnerability | 01:19 |
| sarnold | Mead: we haven't heard an infection vector yet -- that's just some toolkit to help the attacker *stay* resident once they've compromised the system | 01:19 |
| sarnold | Mead: my guess is that it's primiarly useful for attackers who brute-force account passwords via ssh or vnc or similar | 01:20 |
| teward | Mead: there's no specific 'vulnerability' listed there to patch AFAICT, it's just malware, as well | 01:20 |
| teward | since there's no stated infection vector yet | 01:20 |
| teward | (as sarnold said) | 01:20 |
| teward | current 'prevention and fixing' is to block known C2s. | 01:20 |
| teward | and block based on the IOCs on some of the sublinks underneath that (https://www.intezer.com/blog-hiddenwasp-malware-targeting-linux-systems/) | 01:21 |
| sarnold | though it's also be a good idea to double-check that you disable passwords on ssh, that your unattended-upgrades are still working, etc | 01:21 |
| Beam_Inn | have you guys seen issues in mate where dragging out of a field causes the selection to restart | 01:23 |
| Beam_Inn | "Package libpng12-0:i386 is not available | 01:23 |
| Beam_Inn | ANyone know what happened to this pkg? | 01:23 |
| unshackled | some people just have a lot of problems | 01:25 |
| sarnold | Beam_Inn: that was generated from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpng -- I believe this is the replacement https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpng1.6 | 01:25 |
| Beam_Inn | how did youknow? XD | 01:26 |
| Beam_Inn | yeah, well, the software I'm trying to install is specifically looking for that package so I'm basicallys crewed. :D | 01:27 |
| sarnold | Beam_Inn: well, I looked up libpng* packages on my local archive mirror. it's possible to do similar if you don't have a locl archive mirror, but it's a bit more work :) | 01:27 |
| Beam_Inn | maybe i should try to wine it | 01:27 |
| teward | sarnold: only exists in Xenial though | 01:27 |
| teward | that specific package I mean. | 01:27 |
| * teward has some fun with a local mirror. | 01:27 | |
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| texla | Ubuntu 18.04 with Firefox to install and use chrome or chromium does Firefox have to be uninstalled | 01:36 |
| sarnold | I run both all the time | 01:38 |
| Bashing-om | texla: Nope - thedy will co-exist :) | 01:38 |
| texla | Bashing-om, Thanks for the info | 01:39 |
| donofrio | how would you tell what java version/make your using ibm/oracle? | 02:00 |
| sarnold | donofrio: dpkg -l '*jdk*' | grep ^ii not a bad start | 02:02 |
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| glick | hu | 05:34 |
| glick | hi | 05:34 |
| glick | anyon around? | 05:35 |
| imsurit_ofc | was freenode down for you all? or was it just me ? | 05:35 |
| glick | imsurit_ofc: i found it strange that for the last 30 minutes or so i havent gotten a single reply in channels such as #wordpress | 05:36 |
| glick | so maybe thats related | 05:36 |
| imsurit_ofc | glick: it was down for me for ~15 mins | 05:37 |
| imsurit_ofc | let me check the log of other server | 05:37 |
| Svetlana | glick, were you in the middle of an ubuntu related discussion? | 05:38 |
| glick | no | 05:38 |
| Svetlana | ah ok :) | 05:38 |
| njund | My scale option in settings disapear after I perform update?v :( | 05:43 |
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| njund | Here is a forum post with the same issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/1123801/display-scaling-option-gone-after-18-04-update | 05:44 |
| Svetlana | njund, can you report a bug? | 06:02 |
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| pavlushka | Can anybody tell me the screenshot command for mate to run from the terminal please? | 06:25 |
| Svetlana | pavlushka, 'scrot' for the entire desktop, or do you want the gui one? | 06:27 |
| pavlushka | Svetlana: that will do, ty | 06:27 |
| Svetlana | yvw :-) | 06:28 |
| njund | How can I scale Ubuntu to 200% | 06:29 |
| njund | I have a 4k screen on a 15 laptop | 06:30 |
| njund | WIndows automatically sets scale to 200% and thats perfect | 06:30 |
| njund | Using ubuntu in vmware, everything is painfully tiny | 06:30 |
| njund | There was a scale option in the menu that disappeared for me | 06:30 |
| njund | mentioned it earlier, linking a forum post https://askubuntu.com/questions/1123801/display-scaling-option-gone-after-18-04-update | 06:31 |
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| njund | Can anyone else confirm that they have a scale option in their dsiplay settings on Ubuntu 18.04 | 06:31 |
| njund | I wonder whether it was removed in a later update :( | 06:32 |
| blue1 | njund: ? | 06:38 |
| thingfish | I just gotta say that I'm pretty blown away that I can play Dark Souls III on 19.04 and it plays beautifully. | 06:38 |
| thingfish | Sekiro plays too, almost as well. | 06:39 |
| thingfish | anyway, good job whoever. | 06:39 |
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| lotuspsychje | njund: check out dconf-editor | 06:45 |
| lotuspsychje | thingfish: wanna join #ubuntu-discuss please? | 06:52 |
| thingfish | sure! | 06:53 |
| K0SHD | hello | 06:56 |
| K0SHD | Can anyone help with this error: ioctl HIDIOCGRAWINFO failed for /dev/hidraw0. errno = 0. | 06:57 |
| Triffid_Hunter | K0SHD: your hidraw0 device didn't want to reply with its info | 06:59 |
| srji | i bought the new dell xps 13 with ubuntu. does anybody has experience with using two displayport displays? | 07:04 |
| srji | with daisychain? | 07:05 |
| srji | does it work under ubuntu? | 07:05 |
| spinningCat | is there a software that uses wecam to show desktop and record it? | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | spinningCat: kazam or recordmydesktop | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | oh webcam | 07:09 |
| spinningCat | do you have personal preference? | 07:09 |
| lotuspsychje | spinningCat: you want to record another computer with your webcam or? | 07:09 |
| spinningCat | record my desktop | 07:09 |
| spinningCat | i want to record my desktop | 07:10 |
| lotuspsychje | spinningCat: yeah then both are good | 07:10 |
| spinningCat | let me try kazam | 07:10 |
| spinningCat | this is really good thanks | 07:17 |
| spinningCat | i wish i can put my face left and bottom side of the vid | 07:17 |
| spinningCat | is that possible? | 07:17 |
| EriC^^ | spinningCat: heard of obs studio? | 07:18 |
| njund | lotuspsychje: installed dconf-editor. Where can I find display scaling options? | 07:18 |
| spinningCat | no | 07:18 |
| spinningCat | let me check | 07:18 |
| njund | well i found it, and it did nothing when I changed it :( | 07:22 |
| spinningCat | kazam dont record my voice | 07:24 |
| spinningCat | :p | 07:24 |
| spinningCat | xah | 07:24 |
| anddam | howdy, while trying to unlock external URI links from within evince I wiped the profile for evince | 07:25 |
| anddam | how can I reinstate the default ones from 18.04? | 07:25 |
| anddam | (I figure some dpkg-reconfigure or the like) | 07:25 |
| spinningCat | very nice | 07:26 |
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| glick | hey, when i set a ufw rule, what configuration file is that added to? | 08:15 |
| glick | i dont see it in /etc/default/ufw | 08:15 |
| glick | nor in /etc/ufw/before.rules or after.rules or ufw.conf | 08:15 |
| Walex | glick: a general way to figure out is something like 'find /etc -type f -mmin -10' | 08:52 |
| Walex | glick: done within 10 minutes of changing the configuration. | 08:53 |
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| Walex | njund: there are several hiDPI settings and "display scaling" is a bad name, and also there are difference between GNOME and Unity | 08:54 |
| njund | Walex: doesnt typical ubuntu desktop just use gnome? | 08:55 |
| Walex | until and including 2017 the default was Unity 7, now it is GNOME. | 08:57 |
| Walex | njund: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bn4pwH5khy/ | 08:57 |
| Walex | njund: that's mostly for Unity 7, but there are equivalent features in 'gnome-control-center' and 'gnome-tweak-tool' | 08:59 |
| njund | so to start out, I can go set dpi in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 09:01 |
| njund | and expect that to be applied on each boot when X starts up? | 09:01 |
| Walex | njund: that's good, or you can change the DPI dynamically with 'xrandr' but less good. | 09:01 |
| Walex | njund: yes, if you put '-dpi ...' in whatever Display Manager configuration it will be applied when the X server starts. | 09:02 |
| Walex | njund: that won't be enouh because some GUI frameworks ignore that value and use only the DPI value configured for that framework. | 09:03 |
| njund | hmm | 09:04 |
| njund | `/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 09:04 |
| njund | does not exist for me | 09:04 |
| njund | isnt that the default? | 09:04 |
| njund | Oh, am I supposed to create the file myself | 09:04 |
| Walex | njund: your Display Manager may be GDM3 if you installed Ubuntu 18 from fresh | 09:05 |
| Walex | njund: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sSh2f7fJJn/ | 09:05 |
| njund | sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 | 09:09 |
| njund | is supposed to launch a window right | 09:09 |
| njund | with choices | 09:09 |
| lotuspsychje | njund: scaling options should just show in gnome settings or gnome-tweak-tool or dconf (if your graphics driver is installed correctly?) | 09:10 |
| njund | I'm using Ubuntu in vmware | 09:10 |
| njund | not sure how that would affect the graphics drivers | 09:11 |
| lotuspsychje | njund: aha, then that might be the case perhaps, as VM uses a virtual graphics card | 09:12 |
| lotuspsychje | njund: check your: sudo lshw -C video | 09:13 |
| njund | wow, I just swicthed from gdm to lightdm, and the perf diff is *definitely* noticeable | 09:15 |
| Walex | njund: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hD2pjSYVWN/ | 09:15 |
| njund | lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7tyHtTm3Dk/ | 09:16 |
| Walex | njund: both GNOME and Unity 7 want a fairly fast OpenGL implementation, that is with hw acceleration. | 09:16 |
| lotuspsychje | njund: yes, as you can see its a VM virtual graphics there | 09:16 |
| Walex | njund: if hw OpenGL is not available I use XFCE | 09:16 |
| njund | I have graphics accel or something like that set in vmware settings | 09:17 |
| njund | no way to pass through my graphics card :( | 09:17 |
| njund | Walex: that was for the lightdm.conf file right? | 09:17 |
| Walex | njund: the latest paste is from/for 'dconf' | 09:18 |
| Walex | this is for LightDM: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sSh2f7fJJn/ | 09:18 |
| njund | lol did sudo reboot, and lost my GUI it seems | 09:21 |
| njund | Does something in those settings force it to CLI mode? Walex | 09:21 |
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| afidegnum | hello, i m still facing problem. apt-get purge nodejs, i reinstall nodejs but i can't get to run npm, .. here is the current error i m gettig https://kopy.io/FsC2J | 09:37 |
| Flannel | MJDombrowski: Can you please fix your connection? Thanks. | 09:51 |
| geirha | afidegnum: isn't npm included in the nodejs package? | 09:59 |
| afidegnum | geirha: it's asumed to be included, following this link https://tecadmin.net/install-latest-nodejs-npm-on-ubuntu/ | 10:05 |
| afidegnum | geirha: even here, https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/blob/master/README.md#debinstall | 10:10 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:11 |
| geirha | afidegnum: right, so what does type -a node npm output? | 10:16 |
| afidegnum | node is /usr/bin/node | 10:17 |
| afidegnum | npm is /usr/bin/npm | 10:17 |
| afidegnum | geirha: that's waht i m having | 10:18 |
| geirha | afidegnum: right, so npm is installed, probably via the nodejs package. dpkg -S /usr/bin/npm should tell you what package installed it | 10:19 |
| gofio | on ubuntu 18.04 is there an easy way to stop spotify from loading the snap folder non stop? it gets to 3G because it has no more space, I guess | 10:21 |
| afidegnum | geirha: nodejs: /usr/bin/npm | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | gofio: snap support goes to the snap maintainer | 10:22 |
| geirha | afidegnum: right, so nodesource packages node and npm in the same package, while ubuntu's official repos, package them in separate packages, so when you tried apt install npm it failed because it wanted the nodejs package from ubuntu's repo, which conflicts with nodesource's nodejs package | 10:23 |
| gofio | lotuspsychje: thanks. Don't know what that means but thanks for you time | 10:23 |
| lotuspsychje | gofio: try: snap info spotify and look for the 'contact' | 10:24 |
| gofio | "Note: Spotify for Linux is a labor of love from our engineers that wanted | 10:25 |
| gofio | to listen to Spotify on their Linux development machines." :) | 10:25 |
| afidegnum | geirha: oh ok, how do i fix that? should i remove the old repo? | 10:25 |
| gofio | lotuspsychje: thanks: contact: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Linux/bd-p/desktop_linux | 10:25 |
| lotuspsychje | gofio: there's your answer | 10:26 |
| gofio | lotuspsychje: exactly, thanks. Sometimes support doesn't have to mean solve an issue it just can be give directions :) | 10:26 |
| geirha | afidegnum: there's nothing to fix.., you installed the nodejs package from nodesource, so you have nodejs and npm installed | 10:27 |
| cedra | hello | 10:28 |
| afidegnum | but calling npm doesn't run | 10:28 |
| afidegnum | oh it | 10:28 |
| afidegnum | it's fixed | 10:28 |
| cedra | I ran do-release-upgrade from my 14.04 server, it finished with 1 error for rkhunter | 10:28 |
| cedra | and then I restarted and now I can't ssh into it | 10:28 |
| cedra | No config files were changed | 10:29 |
| gofio | lotuspsychje: so far I'm just deleting the spotify folder altogether manualy when it reaches the 3G level wich is the maximum I have right now in this hard disk of free space so i get noticed when that happens | 10:29 |
| afidegnum | geirha: one issue is, node installs in home directory as .node` | 10:30 |
| afidegnum | ~/home/user/.node` | 10:30 |
| geirha | afidegnum: Don't know about that. I install node manually, in my homedir, rather than using apt, and in that case I don't get any .node directory in my homedir | 10:33 |
| afidegnum | geirha: can you give a directive on how to install elm via your method? | 10:35 |
| geirha | afidegnum: never tried elm | 10:38 |
| afidegnum | sorry i mean nodejs | 10:43 |
| afidegnum | how did you install yours? | 10:43 |
| geirha | afidegnum: I grab a tarball for the version and arch I want from https://nodejs.org/dist, extract it somewhere under my homedir, and prepend its bin dir to PATH in ~/.profile | 10:46 |
| afidegnum | ok | 10:47 |
| ||arifaX | Hi, I have a quick question. I successfully installed 19.04 on Surface Pro 3 and it works like a charm. The only thing that is not working is the super key on the touch screen (right handside). It worked btw. when I booted into the live environment of the Ubuntu DVD. Any ideas what I am missing? | 11:04 |
| ||arifaX | correction. one more reboot and it worked - sorry for bothering | 11:07 |
| guiverc | ||arifaX, no problem, glad it resolved itself :) | 11:12 |
| Stifler | Hi. I have ipv6 enabled on a ubu machine. I can ping itself, but I cannot ping it from another server. I didnt set it up so I am not sure where to start, but I presume that ipv6 icmp has been disabled or blocked by a fw. The machine is setup as a mail server (iredmail package) | 11:31 |
| Stifler | Where can I start to look ? | 11:31 |
| Stifler | sysctl doesnt /appear/ to have anything untoward that I recognise. | 11:31 |
| tomreyn | Stifler: you say you pinged itself, did you ping from the system, to its LAN / external (so not fe80) IPv6 address? | 11:40 |
| Stifler | i pinged a routable ipv6 (2001:blah...) on itself | 11:41 |
| TJ- | Stifler: is the host you're ping-ing from on the same subnet? | 11:42 |
| Stifler | but that same ip does not ping from another ubu box (and the one I pinged from, is fully fleged and currently serving on the real world) | 11:42 |
| tomreyn | do you have iptables rules setup on it? sudo ip6tables -L | 11:42 |
| TJ- | Stifler: in these cases I run tcpdump on both ends and watch for the packets leaving, arriving and replying, and returning | 11:43 |
| Stifler | okay!. It has iptables v6 | 11:43 |
| Stifler | so this is a stab for me. In iptables you would add "-A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT" | 11:44 |
| Stifler | to enable ping right? | 11:44 |
| Stifler | Is it the same in ip6tables ? | 11:44 |
| TJ- | Stifler: no | 11:44 |
| Stifler | This line exists in iptables "ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere icmp echo-request" when I do an -L | 11:45 |
| Stifler | it does not exist in ip6tables | 11:45 |
| TJ- | Stifler: "icmpv6" | 11:45 |
| Stifler | okay. to be clear ""-A INPUT -p icmpv6 --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT" | 11:46 |
| TJ- | Stifler: I have for example: 2-A INPUT -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT" | 11:47 |
| tds | you'll likely need to add rules to allow RAs and NSes as well - just allowing all icmpv6 may be the easiest option | 11:48 |
| tds | yeah, just use TJ-'s rule :) | 11:48 |
| Stifler | okay. Yeah I know I need RA for ipv6 to work, so I figured something was blocking it (causing the actual problem I am trying to solve) | 11:49 |
| TJ- | Stifler: if you do "ip6tables -p ipv6-icmp -h" it'll show you all the type codes | 11:49 |
| TJ- | Stifler: also see "man iptables-extensions" and do "/ipv6-icmp" and hit Return key to skip to the section covering that | 11:50 |
| Stifler | So ip6tables has nothing allowing so I shall give this all a go. ** thanks TJ- , tds , tomreyn ** The compass is pointing in the right direction now! | 11:50 |
| tomodachi | yes | 11:50 |
| tomodachi | oops wrong window nvm | 11:50 |
| tds | if you do want to filter icmpv6, follow https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4890 very carefully | 11:51 |
| Stifler | And cheers!!! that fixed my icmp problem - now ipv6 is pucker. On to the next. | 11:53 |
| Stifler | tds: I will do that. thanks. I think RA is all that is needed for ipv6 to work properly, but I will read the link as you have offered it. | 11:54 |
| * TJ- hides his router from tds before it starts dropping arbitrary IPv6 prefixes! | 11:54 | |
| tds | my point was more "don't filter icmpv6 unless you really know what you're doing" :) | 11:54 |
| Stifler | It appears that I now have an IPv6 mail server. Thanks everyone. | 11:58 |
| Stifler | As I have read over a '000s times, icmp is needed for ipv6 to work. So it makes sense that we leave it open, and make icmp better/secure. | 11:59 |
| Stifler | The sooner we leave ipv4 world behind us the better. | 11:59 |
| Stifler | oh, and goodbye NAT!! we never really did love you .... :-P | 12:00 |
| tds | :) | 12:01 |
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| glick | to restart sshd | 13:08 |
| glick | systemctl restart sshd correct? | 13:08 |
| mouses | glick: correct | 13:08 |
| glick | doesnt work on my system for some reason | 13:10 |
| glick | im logged in | 13:10 |
| glick | and you would think restarting it would kick me off for a moment | 13:10 |
| willksm | No it doesn't work like that glick | 13:10 |
| mgedmin | no, it shouldn't | 13:10 |
| eren_tr | hello | 13:10 |
| mgedmin | sshd spawns a subprocess for each incoming session; those do not go away when the main listening sshd is restarted | 13:10 |
| mgedmin | (and if it did kick you off, it would not be "for a moment", it would be permanently) | 13:11 |
| mgedmin | check with systemctl status sshd -- the pid will be different after a restart, and also the process started timestamps | 13:11 |
| mouses | glick: SSHD forks a child process on connection. This child process will not die if either SSHD or the whole network is restarted. This is the reason why you can update ssh and/or its configuration, do a service sshd restart and still keep connected to your old ssh-session with the old settings. Apart from that ssh recovers well from small network outages. | 13:11 |
| glick | i set PermitRootLogin no | 13:12 |
| glick | but i can still login as root | 13:12 |
| mouses | smart | 13:12 |
| TJ- | glick: when the service is reloaded it does: "ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID" HUP causes sshd to reload its config | 13:12 |
| mouses | TJ-: did you remember to uncomment the line? | 13:13 |
| mouses | sorry, glick - not TJ-. | 13:13 |
| glick | yes | 13:13 |
| eren_tr | I have a question. Is there any way to find where my kazam video went after I clicked finish recording. I lost the .mux file after quitting it | 13:13 |
| TJ- | glick: did you test the config first with "sshd -t" ? | 13:13 |
| glick | no | 13:13 |
| mouses | eren_tr: find / -name "*.mux" | 13:14 |
| glick | TJ-: i did it and no output | 13:14 |
| mouses | eren_tr: you probably want something like find /home/eren/ -name "*.mux" | 13:14 |
| mouses | eren_tr: from your home directory, you could also do something like: | 13:15 |
| mouses | find . -name "*.mux" | 13:15 |
| eren_tr | wow I wasn't expecting an answer thanks. I'll try that now | 13:16 |
| mouses | good luck, and glad to help | 13:16 |
| TJ- | glick: in which case immediately after do "echo $?" to get its exit code. 0 means OK, anything else means an error | 13:16 |
| glick | i have certificate login setup | 13:17 |
| glick | does that override permitrootlogin no? | 13:17 |
| eren_tr | no, it didn't find it. | 13:24 |
| eren_tr | After quitting kazam after clicking finish recording the .mux file which was the recorded file disappeared. | 13:24 |
| eren_tr | I tried testdisk, the .mux file was located in the videos folder but after I clicked quit the video simply disappeared without appearing in the trash bin or anything. I didn't find any files in tmp folder over 100Mb's would anyone have any clue where it might have went? | 13:24 |
| eren_tr | It's really important | 13:24 |
| glick | hmm howcome when i try sudo echo "something" > /etc/hostname i get permission denied? | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | eren_tr: maybe somewhere in a /tmp dir or the temp dir kazam uses its found? | 13:25 |
| mouses | glick: try that find but run it as root and use / as the start path | 13:26 |
| EriC^^ | oh nevermind, just read the rest | 13:26 |
| mouses | that'll search the whole drive | 13:26 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: is this your Question? https://answers.launchpad.net/kazam/+question/681148 | 13:26 |
| mouses | eren_tr: sudo find / -name "*.mux" | 13:26 |
| eren_tr | wow you guys are scary, yes that's me | 13:26 |
| mouses | heh | 13:26 |
| eren_tr | I'll try it again as you've advised | 13:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | glick because the sudo only applies to echo... not to the attempt at writing the value to the file | 13:27 |
| EriC^^ | glick: you could do echo something | sudo tee /file , or sudo bash -c "echo something > /file" | 13:28 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: OK, I thought there were 2 people with the same problem | 13:28 |
| eren_tr | well i can pretend it wasn't me if it might make it a bigger issue | 13:29 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: if the file was recorded to a temporary location, that'd likely be in the /tmp/ directory. At this stage I'd search the entire system though, using "sudo find -xdev / /tmp /home -type f -name '*.mux' -ls " | 13:31 |
| eren_tr | ok | 13:31 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: this all supposes the file truely does end in ".mux" - are you sure of that? | 13:33 |
| eren_tr | I had to shut the computer down and I tried recording again afterwards to test it could that be the reason why it can't find it | 13:33 |
| eren_tr | yes that's correct it was .mux | 13:33 |
| eren_tr | if it was in the tmp folder could testdisk find it after it is automatically deleted? | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | eren_tr: you said you found it in testdisk? | 13:34 |
| eren_tr | no I just scanned videos with testdisk it didn't find any deleted files in it | 13:35 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: after it finished recording you did "Save for later" ? | 13:35 |
| CrtxReavr | I'm trying to run 'apt-get upgrade' on an 18.04.2 LTS box. . . but it's failing, getting 404s for all the files it's trying to pull from us.archive.ubuntu.com. | 13:36 |
| teward | CrtxReavr: sudo apt-get update | 13:36 |
| cfhowlett | CrtxReavr= try a different mirror. | 13:36 |
| eren_tr | no I just clicked finish recording from the top bar save automatically was selected | 13:36 |
| CrtxReavr | teward, did that. | 13:36 |
| teward | then it's the mirror you're using, use a different one. | 13:36 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: I'm reading the source-code and trying to deduce what is does. It seems like, when a recording ends, there's a radio-button for "Save for Later" and a "Continue" button to cause the save | 13:36 |
| teward | (might be mid-sync) | 13:36 |
| lotuspsychje | eren_tr: i had same bug on kazam once, if you record too long it might crash and tmp work is lost | 13:36 |
| lotuspsychje | eren_tr: so now i record short pieces with kazam | 13:37 |
| TJ- | CrtxReavr: 404 usually means the package versions have updated and you need to re-fetch the package lists with "apt update" | 13:37 |
| eren_tr | it really is a shame they gave 4 stars to it on the ubuntu software and it's rated as the best video recorder on some sites | 13:37 |
| CrtxReavr | TJ-, well, I re-ran update and am seeing that it's partially failing. | 13:38 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: in the source is this fragment "logger.debug("Moving from {} to {}".format(self.tempfile, uri))" ... which infers a) there's a log file and b) it might include the to/from paths of the file | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | eren_tr: how long was your record? | 13:38 |
| eren_tr | there really should be a site that gives you accurate information on things like these | 13:38 |
| eren_tr | about 3 hours | 13:39 |
| eren_tr | ok | 13:39 |
| CrtxReavr | Where is the mirror set? /etc/apt/sources.list? | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | eren_tr: yeah that extreme long for kazam | 13:39 |
| teward | CrtxReavr: usually, yes. | 13:39 |
| cfhowlett | that's long for any screenrecorrder | 13:39 |
| eren_tr | I think TJ has found something | 13:40 |
| eren_tr | let me look at my logs again | 13:40 |
| eren_tr | gnome-software May 30 15:42:14 failed to rescan: Failed to parse /usr/share/applications/kazam.desktop file: cannot process file of type application/x-desktop audit session 3 priority 4 | 13:43 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: check $HOME/.xsession-errors ... from the look of the source-code logging goes to terminal, not to a file, so unless some process hooked the stdout/stderr and wrote it to a file, the log output will have gone | 13:44 |
| eren_tr | ok | 13:45 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: my other idea os, if the recording was 3 hours, it ought to be a LARGE file, so search the disk for very large files, not by name | 13:45 |
| eren_tr | it was about 340 mb's the .mux file however I was missing 2Gb's on my computer | 13:46 |
| eren_tr | I'll check it again if the 2 Gb's are still missing, my computer crashed so I had to close it | 13:46 |
| eren_tr | no it seems I'm not missing it at this point | 13:47 |
| eren_tr | actually I'm not sure | 13:47 |
| mgedmin | Ubuntu hasn't been using ~/.xsession-errors for many years ... | 13:48 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: try "sudo find / -size +300M -ls" | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | incidentally if anyone knows a working screen recorder that actually works under wayland and is not a terrible pain to use, I'm all ears | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | gnome-shell's builtin ctrl+alt+shift+r is excellent, only it doesn't allow me to select an area to record | 13:48 |
| eren_tr | obs definetely | 13:49 |
| CrtxReavr | Wayland-Yutani? | 13:49 |
| eren_tr | recorder with it in the past, didn't have time to install it last time | 13:49 |
| eren_tr | sorry I'm not sure about wayland, I'm doing the find command | 13:49 |
| mgedmin | does obs work under wayland? I heard that it didn't | 13:49 |
| CrtxReavr | Weyland is the X replacement? | 13:50 |
| mgedmin | (and the requirement of specific xserver-xorg version numbers and ffmpeg on the official website do not raise hopes) | 13:50 |
| mgedmin | yes, wayland is the new protocol that wants to replace X11 | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | ren@eren-ALFA-100A:~$ sudo find / -size +300M -ls | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | [sudo] password for eren: | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | 12 1392264 -rw------- 1 root root 1425674240 May 3 13:52 /swapfile | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | 289479 354064 -rwxrwxrwx 1 eren eren 362555971 Nis 24 17:33 /home/eren/Videos/GENERAL\ AFFAIRS\ DEPARTMENT\ SEXUAL\ MANAGEMENT\ DIVISION\ FUKA\ NANASAKI.....Ful\ -\ Pornhub.com.mp4 | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | 293353 459920 -rwxrwxrwx 1 eren eren 470951907 Nis 24 17:46 /home/eren/Videos/Blowjob\ School\ -\ Pornhub.com(1).mp4 | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | 272179 524300 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 536870912 May 30 19:23 /home/eren/Videos/image.dd | 13:50 |
| eren_tr | 289483 436976 -rwxrwxrwx 1 eren eren 447456835 Nis 24 17:44 /home/eren/Videos/The\ best....Japanese\ AV\ Gloryhole..mp4 | 13:50 |
| mgedmin | eren_tr: use a pastebin please | 13:50 |
| CrtxReavr | ahahah | 13:50 |
| teward | !pastebin | eren_tr | 13:51 |
| ubottu | eren_tr: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:51 |
| CrtxReavr | eren_tr, nothing about midget amputees? | 13:51 |
| eren_tr | only if they're into it | 13:51 |
| hggdh | CrtxReavr, eren_tr: please stay on-topic | 13:52 |
| cfhowlett | family friendly channel, people. keep it clean. | 13:52 |
| eren_tr | I'm sorry | 13:52 |
| * CrtxReavr isn't. | 13:53 | |
| CrtxReavr | That was shameless & funny. | 13:53 |
| CrtxReavr | eren_tr, I am curious though, why using a swapfile? A swap partition should improve performance by taking the filesystem code out of the swapping equation. | 13:54 |
| hggdh | CrtxReavr: and improper. So, please, don't go that route | 13:55 |
| TJ- | mgedmin: what are you on about, .xsession-errors is used by Xorg | 13:55 |
| eren_tr | I'm sorry I'm new here I'll keep the conversation on point and clean | 13:55 |
| eren_tr | *to the point | 13:55 |
| * CrtxReavr shrugs. | 13:56 | |
| tomreyn | For CPU frequency scaling on Ubuntu 18.04, should I rely on the mainboard firmware to handle it, should i install cpufrequency-utils, cpufreqd, or something else? | 13:59 |
| eren_tr | I can't find a folder or a file named .xsession-errors in $HOME/.xsession-errors ... | 14:00 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: it'll only be there if the session is using Xorg. It may be using the Gnome/Mutter (Wayland) compositor instead | 14:01 |
| eren_tr | I'm using the gnome desktop environement | 14:01 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" | 14:01 |
| eren_tr | ok | 14:01 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: if it shows "x11" it's Xorg xserver | 14:02 |
| eren_tr | x11 | 14:02 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: what does "ls -al $HOME/.xsession_errors" report? | 14:02 |
| eren_tr | ls: cannot access '/home/eren/.xsession_errors': No such file or directory | 14:03 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: so, none there. how about "grep ^ERRFILE= /etc/X11/Xsession" | 14:03 |
| eren_tr | ERRFILE=$HOME/.xsession-errors | 14:04 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: so it is set, but none created. Unusual. | 14:05 |
| eren_tr | I searched .xsession-errors on nautilus on sudo however I'm getting the no results found | 14:05 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: at this point though, as lotuspsychje said earlier, it looks like you may have been hit by the DATA LOSS issue | 14:05 |
| eren_tr | ok | 14:05 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: mobo firmware? you mean some ACPI function? in general I thought the kernel policy handled it | 14:06 |
| eren_tr | can i still find the file with testdisk? or another data recovery app? | 14:07 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: 'depends' - if the sectors/blocks in the file-system it was using have been re-used for something else, then no | 14:07 |
| eren_tr | well it happened yesterday how can I try that? | 14:08 |
| TJ- | !info extundelete | eren_tr | 14:09 |
| ubottu | eren_tr: extundelete (source: extundelete): utility to recover deleted files from ext3/ext4 partition. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 56 kB, installed size 154 kB | 14:09 |
| eren_tr | also I'm still missing around 1-2 Gb's of data. I had 3 Gb's of free space when I started | 14:09 |
| eren_tr | ok | 14:09 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: has the PC been rebooted since the file got lost? | 14:09 |
| eren_tr | unfortunetely yes it went to text only mode while trying to keep it awake and was showing errors | 14:10 |
| eren_tr | installing extundelete now | 14:11 |
| eren_tr | installed | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: yes, acpi - i guess? i've got an amd ryzen 7 1800x (X370 chipset), so far had cpufrequtils installed (just purged it to see whether frequency scaling still work after reboot). i always got this message during boot: kernel: powernow_k8: This CPU is not supported anymore, using acpi-cpufreq instead. | 14:14 |
| gamelaster | Hi, I'm trying to build the kernel driver on Ubuntu, which have retpoline kernel, sadly, I'm getting this error "You are building kernel with non-retpoline compiler, please update your compiler.. Stop". Of course I updated the compiler to gcc8 (with retpoline support), but it doesn't help. Any ideas? | 14:15 |
| tomreyn | ...so apparently cpufrequtils is outdated or just not needed with this CPU | 14:15 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: shame, because there's a trick you can try if the system hasn't rebooted. Sometimes a file is unlinked (deleted) but some running process still has an open file handle to it, and you can find those and recover them. Find using " sudo find /proc/[1]*/fd/ -ls | grep deleted " and recover by simply copying the fd to a new file, e.g. if you found "... /proc/18864/fd/326 -> /tmp/tmp-yda.xpi\ (deleted)" | 14:16 |
| TJ- | you could recover using "cp /proc/18864/fd/326 $HOME/my-recovered-yda.xpi" | 14:16 |
| eren_tr | let me try it anyways | 14:16 |
| eren_tr | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zf2TWkVBZg/ | 14:17 |
| eren_tr | is there anything else I can try? | 14:18 |
| eren_tr | I still have 1,1 Gb's left in my hard drive | 14:20 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: see and read https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/linux.git/tree/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig | 14:20 |
| eren_tr | it was 3Gb's when I started | 14:20 |
| eren_tr | recording | 14:21 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: lets try sorting directories by space used: "sudo du -haxd 3 / | sort -h" | 14:22 |
| eren_tr | ok | 14:22 |
| mgedmin | btw there are nice gui tools like baobab and kfiletree (I think?) that help you see where the disk space has gone | 14:24 |
| mgedmin | (also console tools like duc) | 14:24 |
| TJ- | and make it next to impossible to share results via pastebin | 14:24 |
| eren_tr | is there a command to find out sudden spikes is memory usage by days? For example to find if there was a 2gb file creationg yesterday around 18:55? | 14:27 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: you'd use 'find' to do that, in a similar way to the command I gave you earlier that searched for all files greater than 300MB | 14:28 |
| eren_tr | ok I'll try that again | 14:28 |
| mgedmin | memory or disk? I like atop, it records a snapshot of system state every 10 minutes and you can go back and see what processes were running, what their memory usage was, what the cpu usage was, etc with sudo atop -r | 14:28 |
| mgedmin | atop would work for memory (RAM) usage, but not for disk usage | 14:28 |
| mgedmin | and also you'd have to get a time machine and install atop before the time you wanted to investigate | 14:28 |
| eren_tr | I asked because I guessed maybe there were 100's of files each around 1mb instead of one large one | 14:29 |
| eren_tr | thank you mgadmin | 14:29 |
| eren_tr | wait a minute | 14:31 |
| eren_tr | 272179 524300 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 536870912 May 30 19:23 /home/eren/Videos/image.dd | 14:31 |
| eren_tr | this might be it | 14:31 |
| eren_tr | TJ I OWE YOU BIG TIME | 14:32 |
| eren_tr | Listen if you have a bitcoin account I would like to send you some | 14:32 |
| tuxi | does anyone know how i can setup an ubuntu os on my android phone? i would like to switch completely to linux ^ ^ | 14:33 |
| tuxi | hi | 14:33 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: I take it you found it? ".dd" though!!? | 14:33 |
| eren_tr | yeah but the timing is correct and it was created yesterday | 14:33 |
| eren_tr | 536,9 Mb's | 14:34 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: check the type with "file $HOME/Videos/image.dd" | 14:34 |
| eren_tr | I'm serious about the bitcoins | 14:34 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: that's fine - donate them to a local charity | 14:34 |
| eren_tr | alot of corrupt ones in Turkey but I'll try to find a good one for you | 14:35 |
| eren_tr | sorry off topic | 14:35 |
| eren_tr | "/home/eren/Videos/image.dd: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x58+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 8, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/track 16, heads 4, hidden sectors 2048, sectors 1048576 (volumes > 32 MB), FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 1024, reserved 0x1, serial number 0x25214076, unlabeled" | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: thanks, i just read it. i didn't discuss this (i don't think it matters here, the default 18.04 kernel seems to work similarily in this regard) but i'm using the -edge kernel (5.0) and see that CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y is set, meaning that, unless I either "enable a dynamic cpufreq governor after boot, or use a userspace tool", there'll be no frequency scaling but CPUs will run at full performance (and power draw). | 14:36 |
| eren_tr | Thanks alot TJ I really learned alot | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | so i guess i either want to set GOV_ONDEMAND or GOV_CONSERVATIVE (need to understand whether this would actually be supported by my "cpufreq low-level hardware driver" - not sure which this is, if any) | 14:39 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: it's quite a rats nest of options :) | 14:43 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: are you sure that's the file you want? it looks like a disk image | 14:44 |
| eren_tr | well I'm not sure, I still have hope though. It seems odd because it was created around the time Kazam was shut down. The .mux file was around 300 mb's I didn't really use any other apps afterwards | 14:46 |
| eren_tr | I'm guessing it might convert to a disk image before converting the file into mp4 | 14:46 |
| eren_tr | Kazam | 14:47 |
| eren_tr | still it is odd that I am missing 2Gb's out of nowhere | 14:47 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: did Openshot start up to do some conversion, as lotuspsychje was describing? | 15:00 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: in which case I'm wondering if openshot has kept a (temp) file around | 15:00 |
| eren_tr | sorry my computer crashed | 15:06 |
| eren_tr | hmm I don't know let me check | 15:06 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: did Openshot start up to do some conversion, as lotuspsychje was describing? in which case I'm wondering if openshot kept a large (temp) working file around | 15:06 |
| eren_tr | It is quite possible that I just couldn't find the file because it was named something weird and wasn't an mp4 I need to read lotuspsychje's message again one sec | 15:07 |
| eren_tr | I didn't lose the chat the apps all froze for a whil | 15:07 |
| iffraff | Hi I'm having trouble with nvidia drivers, a laptop dock and two external 4k monitors. I've tried the neuvou and the nvidia 390, both seem the same in respect to the problem. Only one monitor will work at a time | 15:08 |
| iffraff | installing teh nvidia monitors was a herculean event, but I think, I finally got it with out doing too much damage to my system | 15:09 |
| lordcirth | iffraff, What Ubuntu version? What nvidia card? Does this laptop have Intel graphics as well? How did you install nvidia-390? | 15:10 |
| iffraff | lordcirth: right, u 19.04 yes it has intell on the board and an nvidia geforce mx150 install was a mess | 15:12 |
| lordcirth | iffraff, how was it a mess? Did you use the .run file from nvidia's website? Did you try the repo version first? | 15:13 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: I'm sorry the only messages I see from lotuspsychje were the ones where he/she talks about kazam not recording long videos | 15:14 |
| glick | hi, pardon, where does php put its log by default in ubuntu? | 15:14 |
| iffraff | I went to software upgrades selected the 390 driver and it started to churn. I did dmesg and saw it was in an infiite loop I can't remember exactly but some nvidia process was not run, kernal not signed etc | 15:14 |
| iffraff | so I removed the nouvou driver and the churn stopped. | 15:14 |
| iffraff | I rebooted. seems to be using the 390. although I can't be sure as I don't know the right commands | 15:15 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: If that's the case how can I find that 1-2gig temp file? | 15:15 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: ahhh, lotuspsychje mentioned it in another channel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kazam/+bug/1183321 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1183321 in Kazam Screencaster "DATA LOSS - deletes temp file before open shot has finished with it" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
| lordcirth | glick, PHP programs run by apache will be logged to /var/log/apache2 | 15:15 |
| iffraff | lordcirth: .run file from nvidia sounds interesting. | 15:16 |
| eren_tr | TJ you're really scary you know that? lol | 15:16 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: if it is one file then "find $HOME -size +1G -ls" looks for anytinh greater than 1GB | 15:16 |
| lordcirth | iffraff, no, don't use the .run. I asked because that sometimes messes up people's systems. run 'nvidia-smi' to see what's up | 15:16 |
| eren_tr | ok | 15:16 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: i am? | 15:16 |
| glick | ok thanks lordcirth | 15:16 |
| eren_tr | who the hell looks at source code and finds all that information. I'm saying it in a good way | 15:17 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: errr, me? :) | 15:17 |
| eren_tr | yes | 15:17 |
| iffraff | lordcirth: as far as I can tell there's nothing involving nvidia which does not mess up peoples systems. this has been a total debacle | 15:17 |
| lordcirth | iffraff, lol. Normal nvidia isn't too bad, it's the hybrid intel/nvidia optimus stuff that is a mess | 15:17 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: If you were around here much you'd know I'm ultra-precise and logical. I collect facts and evidence and read the source to figure things out | 15:17 |
| eren_tr | well I certainly look up to you | 15:18 |
| iffraff | lordcirth: so if I show you the nvidia-smi will that help you know what's wrong with me. I mean my system :) | 15:18 |
| iffraff | one line that looks interesting is | 15:19 |
| iffraff | 0 GeForce MX150 Off | 15:19 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: no, nothing found | 15:19 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: maybe it's outside the user home directory, so try "sudo find -xdev / -size +1G -ls" | 15:20 |
| eren_tr | eren@eren-ALFA-100A:~$ sudo find -xdev / -size +1G -ls | 15:21 |
| eren_tr | find: paths must precede expression: `/' | 15:21 |
| eren_tr | find: possible unquoted pattern after predicate `-xdev'? | 15:21 |
| eren_tr | eren@eren-ALFA-100A:~$ "sudo find -xdev / -size +1G -ls" | 15:21 |
| eren_tr | bash: sudo find -xdev / -size +1G -ls: No such file or directory | 15:21 |
| eren_tr | eren@eren-ALFA-100A:~$ | 15:21 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: hang on, I think I got that wrong! | 15:22 |
| eren_tr | sorry, I'll paste next time | 15:23 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: works for me! " sudo find / -xdev -size +1G -ls " | 15:23 |
| eren_tr | it's working on it | 15:23 |
| eren_tr | 12 1392264 -rw------- 1 root root 1425674240 May 3 13:52 /swapfile | 15:23 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: it'll take a while. I'm assuming you don't have a separate file-system for /var/ (-xdev stops find scanning mountpoints on other block devices below / ) | 15:24 |
| eren_tr | no, oddly enough it was done | 15:24 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: well that proves the find does match some files at least; but if that lost 2G is lots of smaller files this won't work of course | 15:24 |
| mgedmin | so maybe I'm missing some context, but if something is taking up disk space and you can't find it, it could be a deleted file that is still kept open by some program | 15:24 |
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| TJ- | eren_tr: the other thing you could do is search for all files created since yesterday | 15:25 |
| eren_tr | interesting idea how do I do that? | 15:25 |
| mgedmin | that space will be freed when the program exits (or you reboot) | 15:25 |
| TJ- | mgedmin: it's space lost yeaterday. Unfortunately the PC has been rebooted. I suggested checking for unlinked files earlier | 15:25 |
| mgedmin | you can find all deleted but still open files with sudo lsof | grep -i deleted | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | ah, never mind then! | 15:26 |
| eren_tr | also do you hand type eren_tr: each time or is there a way to write quickly to do it? | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | irc clients tend to have nickname completion | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | e<tab> -> eren_tr: | 15:26 |
| eren_tr | ohhh perfect thanks | 15:26 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: We did the 'deleted' search earlier: if the file was recorded to a temporary location, that'd likely be in the /tmp/ directory. At this stage I'd search the entire system though, using "sudo find -xdev / /tmp /home -type f -name '*.mux' -ls " | 15:26 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: ha, and I quoted the wrong comment! | 15:27 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: shame, because there's a trick you can try if the system hasn't rebooted. Sometimes a file is unlinked (deleted) but some running process still has an open file handle to it, and you can find those and recover them. Find using " sudo find /proc/[1]*/fd/ -ls | grep deleted " and recover by simply copying the fd to a new file, e.g. if you found "... /proc/18864/fd/326 -> /tmp/tmp-yda.xpi\ (deleted)" | 15:27 |
| TJ- | you could recover using "cp /proc/18864/fd/326 $HOME/my-recovered-yda.xpi" | 15:27 |
| TJ- | ^^^ that was it! | 15:28 |
| eren_tr | yeah next time you're gonna end up sending my home address | 15:28 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: it's in the post :) | 15:28 |
| eren_tr | hahaha | 15:28 |
| eren_tr | well I always use chrome in private mode so I should be fine | 15:29 |
| iffraff | so can anyone help me with hypbrid intell nvidia laptop trying to get two external monitors to work via thunderbolt 3 dock? | 15:29 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: from everthing we've done it is looking like the file was lost by kazam. As I said, unless you were using openshot to convert the capture at the time you closed kazam | 15:29 |
| eren_tr | I don't know, I'm still iffy about finding the 500mb file around the date and time the video was done | 15:30 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: let's list all files created in the last 24 hours - would that be the correct time-frame? | 15:30 |
| eren_tr | I don't know if Kazam uses openshot by default, | 15:30 |
| eren_tr | yes | 15:31 |
| eren_tr | I just did sudo find "/proc/[1]*/fd/ -ls | grep deleted" all listed files are from May 31'st today so the date is wrong | 15:33 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: try this: "find $HOME -not -ctime +1 -ls" | 15:33 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: | 15:33 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: ok | 15:33 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: it is likely to write a lot of output so you might want to pipe the output into less to make it easy to check, as in "find $HOME -not -ctime +1 -ls | less" | 15:34 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: great let me check | 15:34 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: It seems readable | 15:34 |
| Mdlpe | hi, i can get Internet with my smartphone in wifi but not with usb cable. An idea ? | 15:35 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: how do you know so much? do you have a book or a video source you can recommend? | 15:35 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: now this is odd | 15:37 |
| Yatekii | hmm if netstat -tulpen does not show a PID/Program name for a port, how can I find the locking process? :/ | 15:37 |
| rypervenche | Mdlpe: Can you elaborate on what you mean? Or perhaps ask the question in #ubuntu-fr | 15:37 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: I've experimented and read the code :) | 15:37 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: interesting I'll do the same | 15:37 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | Yatekii: you may need to run sudo netstat ... to see PIDs/names of processes you do not own | 15:38 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: two files were created, one was the one created after the first video when I checked if it was recording fine, the second video was created afterwards however it takes quite a bit of space | 15:39 |
| eren_tr | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZYtVv9f0/ | 15:39 |
| Yatekii | mgedmin: wow I never knew that, thanks! | 15:39 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: Is there a way to see only the files created on May 30th? | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | TJ-: hey I only just now noticed you suggesting find -ctime to find files created at some point in time -- but ctime is inode change time, not creation time! | 15:43 |
| TJ- | mgedmin: correct | 15:44 |
| Mdlpe | rypervenche: I use my smartphone to connect to Internet. This wifi not problem but If I use an usb cable (ethernet connexion) Xubuntu doesn't get ip adress | 15:44 |
| yao_ziyuan | if i have file A on a disk and then i overwrite file A, can i recover the original file A with a file recovery tool (like photorec in linux)? | 15:44 |
| mgedmin | yao_ziyuan: usually not | 15:46 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: first create a file with the oldest timestamp you want, using "touch -t [YY]MMDDhhmm /tmp/timestamp" - e.g. "touch -t 1905310200 /tmp/timestamp" for 2am this morning, then use that with 'find' to locate all files created/modified since then, with "sudo find / -newer /tmp/timestamp -ls " | 15:47 |
| yao_ziyuan | mgedmin: because the original file's disk space is overwritten? | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | yao_ziyuan: yes | 15:48 |
| yao_ziyuan | mgedmin: thanks. just one more question: fat32, ntfs and ext2/3/4 all work this way? | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | essentially, yes | 15:53 |
| mgedmin | there's a possible difference when you delete file A and create a new file A, rather than overwriting it | 15:53 |
| iffraff | how do you update $PATH and make it stick? I can update it via PATH=$Path:/ and that updates it in my console but it goes away with new console? | 15:53 |
| mgedmin | then there's a chance the new file might get different disk areas allocated to it, so the old contents of A might still be recoverable | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | iffraff: we edit ~/.profile and/or ~/.bashrc | 15:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | mgedmin: i overwrote it by cp -rf... | 15:54 |
| TJ- | iffraff: edit $HOME/.profile | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | I don't think cp unlinks files before opening them for writing ... | 15:54 |
| ActionParsnip | Hey guys. I'm about to write a change to upgrade Bind. | 15:55 |
| ActionParsnip | I'll be snapshotting obviously but are there any gotcha's please? | 15:55 |
| iffraff | so none of those files have what's in the current path. Maybe what's in there now is just default. but should I add it to the .rc file? | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | iffraff: ubuntu's default .profile has code to add $HOME/bin and $HOME/.local/bin to the beginning of $PATH, you can copy it and modify | 15:56 |
| yao_ziyuan | mgedmin: i don't quite understand 'unlink'. you mean cp -rf would directly overwrite the original file's disk space? | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | unlink() is the linux system call that deletes a file, sorry for using jargon | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | I meant that I think cp overwrites the file in place, instead of deleting and creating a new file with the same name | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | so data recovery is less likely | 15:57 |
| TJ- | iffraff: I have a function in .profile to make adding additional dirs to PATH is easy. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nSvdNq86Ts/ | 15:57 |
| yao_ziyuan | mgedmin: thanks. i'm trying photorec anyway. | 15:58 |
| iffraff | cool thanks tj | 15:58 |
| mgedmin | iffraff: mine is https://github.com/mgedmin/dotfiles/blob/master/bashrc.path#L6-L18 | 15:58 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: I just did that but I'm getting maybe thousands of lines of code here dating to may 31 is there a way to limit it to only the 30th? | 16:02 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: use both options. | 16:04 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: ok, time for dinner | 16:04 |
| eren_tr | TJ-: gtg | 16:04 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: "touch -t 1905300000 /tmp/timestamp" then "sudo find / -newer /tmp/timestamp -ctime +1 -ls " | 16:05 |
| joetakagi | Hi | 16:06 |
| TJ- | eren_tr: you might need to play with those a little, or you could use 2 timestamps files e.g. "touch -t 1905300000 /tmp/after; touch -t 1905301200 /tmp/before" then "find / -newer /tmp/after -a -not -newer /tmp/before -ls " | 16:07 |
| lordcirth | joetakagi, hi | 16:07 |
| joetakagi | I'm having this error when connecting to a certain wifi access point, in dmesg "deauthenticating from <gives mac address> by local choice (reason: 3=deauth_leaving) | 16:08 |
| joetakagi | Anyone familiar with this issue? | 16:08 |
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| lordcirth | joetakagi, what Ubuntu version, and was it working before? | 16:10 |
| joetakagi | lordcirth: it works on some wifi points, and it works on this one sometimes, but not right now. It's ubuntu 18.04.2 lts | 16:12 |
| lordcirth | joetakagi, what is the wireless card? 'lspci' will list devices | 16:12 |
| BrianBlaze | are 2 SSID's for one router like the same name for the 2.4GHz and the 5? | 16:12 |
| BrianBlaze | could be something like that | 16:12 |
| benl90 | anyone here still have this problem in their ubuntu? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/283 | 16:13 |
| lordcirth | benl90, why, do you? | 16:13 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: what is the interfance name ? | 16:14 |
| tuxi | no | 16:14 |
| joetakagi | lordcirth: it says Intel corporation wirelesss 7260 rev 73 | 16:14 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: what kernel module does the WiFi use, please? | 16:15 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: please tell me which command shows this information? | 16:16 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: interface is wlps20 | 16:16 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: sudo lshw -C network | 16:16 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: wlp2s0 | 16:16 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: also what is the output of: lsb_release -c | 16:17 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: lshw -C network shows under "configuration:" driverversion=4.15.0-50-generic, and lsb_release -c says bionic. | 16:18 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: have you configured the connection to Require IPv4 AND IPv6, and one of those address types isn't being allocated? | 16:18 |
| ash_worksi | can I change launcher item properties? | 16:18 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: I don't think so. | 16:19 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: are you using Network Manager on desktop? | 16:19 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: network manager, it's a laptop | 16:19 |
| ash_worksi | for example, I want to add --profile-directory="Guest Profile" to chromium's target | 16:19 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: look for driver=. What does it say? | 16:20 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: try this: "sudo grep -rn 'may-fail=' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/" - if you get any "may-fail=false" let us know | 16:21 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: Sorry, it says "driver=iwlwifi" | 16:21 |
| lordcirth | joetakagi, so your driver is built for kernel 4.15. can you confirm that 'uname -a' shows you are running 4.15? | 16:22 |
| ActionParsnip | Ash_worksi: if you copy the existing launcher in /usr/share/applications and change the display name as well then you can have one for normal launching and one for your own needs. Just change the "Exec=" line in the file. | 16:22 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: none. | 16:22 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: OK, that's eliminated 2 possible causes so far! | 16:22 |
| joetakagi | lordcirth: 4.15.0-50-generic | 16:22 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: try: sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi; sleep 4; sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11ndisable=1 | 16:23 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: if that makes it stable then we can make the setting stick | 16:23 |
| iffraff | hello | 16:24 |
| iffraff | I have a laptop (hp spectre 360 15"). It has intel gpu on board the motherboard, and a geforce mx150 card. I am running ubuntu 19.04. I have a laptop dock (cable matters thunderbolt 3 dock) that attaches via thunderbolt and has 1 hdmi out and 1 usb-c out ( for monitor ). Each of my monitors work separately but I can't get the system to use both of them. When I run xrandr I see both monitors and they both say connected. | 16:24 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: sorry the option missed an underscore 11n_disable=1 | 16:24 |
| mbeierl | I have an obscure question about changes from Xenial to Bionic. I have "export VAR=test" in ./env/sh. In Xenial, I can execute "sg adm -c "source ./env.sh ; env | grep VAR" and it works. In Bionic, I get "sh: 1: source: not found". Was "source" removed as a valid way to source files in Bionic? | 16:25 |
| ActionParsnip | Thanks (y) | 16:25 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: I like this idea. | 16:25 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: but same result when trying to connect. | 16:25 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: Oh, let me redo it. I didn't see what you added. | 16:25 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: :) | 16:25 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: okay, yes still it's the same thing. | 16:27 |
| TJ- | mbeierl: what's the shell set for the user executing sg ? | 16:27 |
| mbeierl | TJ-: /bin/sh, which on both systems is a symlink to dash | 16:28 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, source | 16:28 |
| mbeierl | TJ-: or is there something somewhere that can specify a default for sg and that is what I am overlooking? | 16:28 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, * 'source' still exists. Most likely it's not in the new PATH? | 16:28 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: isn't 'source' a shell builtin? | 16:29 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: OK, try with the option: power_save=2 | 16:29 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, ah, yes, you are right | 16:29 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: I assume you have rebooted your router | 16:29 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: ok, thanks - for a moment I was trying to find it and got scared :) | 16:29 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, oh, right, just use '.' instead of source | 16:29 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: also try the option: swcrypto=1 | 16:30 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: I find that one works great on most systems | 16:30 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: yes, but I am trying to understand why 'source' as an alias for '.' was removed in Bionic...? | 16:30 |
| mbeierl | TJ-: from the looks of it, sg only invokes /bin/sh, or whatever that might be symlinked to: https://linux.die.net/man/1/sg | 16:31 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: In this location it is not possible, since I do not have access to the router. However I can say the wifi is working on other machines. | 16:32 |
| TJ- | mbeierl: yes; I was trying to see if 16.04 behaved differently | 16:32 |
| ash_worksi | thanks ActionParsnip ; I added another command to the existing .desktop | 16:32 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: modprobe didn't recgonize power_save=2, but it took the other one. | 16:32 |
| ash_worksi | I'm gonna logout now | 16:32 |
| ActionParsnip | Ash_worksi: I'm not sure how that'll work out with updates | 16:33 |
| mbeierl | ok this is even more odd. When I start a shell with /bin/sh, the "source" builtin does not work for either version. Yet somehow sg gets it to work for Xenial, but not in Bionic. Dang, this is weird. | 16:33 |
| lordcirth | TJ-, mbeierl so, in 14.04 sh is a link to bash. In 16.04 and 18.04 it's a link to dash. Perhaps 'source' was added in as a temporary compatibility fix, then removed for standardization? | 16:33 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: that's a good enough explanation. What I cannot understand is why it only works under sg, and not when I invoke the shell explicitly now. | 16:34 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, most likely sg is setting an alias or something like that? | 16:35 |
| TJ- | mbeierl: did you perhaps upgrade that system from 14.04 to 16.04, in which case it , I think, retained the existing symlink | 16:35 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: gotta be. Is there a way to print the shell that is currently active from an env var or something? | 16:35 |
| TJ- | mbeierl: "echo $SHELL" | 16:36 |
| mbeierl | TJ-: both systems are fresh installs from ISO. I wanted to make sure I wasn't smoking anything funny :) | 16:36 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: it took it, but same result. Deauthenticating by choice. | 16:36 |
| ActionParsnip | Mbeirl: env | grep -i shell | 16:36 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, echo $0 | 16:36 |
| ActionParsnip | Joetakagi: did you reboot the router? | 16:36 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, $SHELL is the user's default shell, $0 is the one you're actually in | 16:37 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: I was just realizing that $SHELL was not changing after executing /bin/sh, thanks! | 16:37 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, Note that $0 prints the executable name, so it will say 'sh' which is actually a symlink to dash | 16:37 |
| ash_worksi | I don't know why, but for some reason adding a forth option didn't work but changing the new window option seems to have | 16:38 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: which is exactly what I want in this case | 16:38 |
| joetakagi | ActionParsnip: I do not have access to the router. | 16:38 |
| ash_worksi | although not without negative effects | 16:38 |
| ash_worksi | I appear to have gotten a crash report | 16:38 |
| ash_worksi | and my drive span up quite a bit | 16:38 |
| ash_worksi | lets see if it happens again | 16:38 |
| ash_worksi | eh... so far so good. Any idea why I couldn't just add another option as "New Guest Window" ? | 16:39 |
| ash_worksi | I just copied the whole entry for "New Incognito Window" and changed the Exec | 16:39 |
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| mbeierl | lordcirth: ok, sg adm -c "echo $0" shows bash as the shell still. /bin/sh -c "echo $0" also says bash. | 16:40 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, that's interesting, perhaps when running a single command this doesn't get changed? | 16:41 |
| mbeierl | I fear I am chasing shadows here. I needed to give an explanation as to why a script works under Xenial but is broken under Bionic, and the only answer is "source" is no longer a valid builtin when executing using sg. | 16:41 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, I think "use ." is a sufficient solution for practical purposes? | 16:41 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: yes, that is the fix, but others want to know why... | 16:42 |
| mbeierl | and I can't prove it using /bin/sh as that behaves the same on both Xenial and Bionic. It's only when running under sg that this problem manifests itself. | 16:43 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: what does "iw reg get" report? | 16:43 |
| lordcirth | mbeierl, it's certainly an odd one | 16:43 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: I'm going to try to get this machine online via other means, to make this process easier. | 16:44 |
| mbeierl | lordcirth: well, I gave it a shot and both you and TJ- helped me to ensure I wasn't losing my mind, and it really is was it is. | 16:44 |
| mbeierl | s/was/what/ | 16:44 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: Okay, not possible to connect another way. I can't paste from laptop, so I'll have to answer a question about the output. | 16:50 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: it has a lot of numbers, like (2402 - 2472) | 16:50 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: it's now ramdoly working. | 16:53 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: ignore the numbers, just the 1st two lines | 16:54 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: e.g. "country 00: DFS-UNSET" | 16:54 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: it's sometimes possible that the client's region isn't set correctly, and doesn't match what the Access Point is doing. The region affects the frequencies (channels) available and bandwidth | 16:55 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: e.g if the router is using 802.11ac (80MHz bandwidth) and the client isn't, it's possible in some circumstances for the client to manage initial auth but then fail because it can't have a 'conversation' with the AP | 16:56 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: global \\ country 00: DFS-UNSET | 16:57 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: bingo. | 16:57 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: that's not always a cause, but it might help to set it correctly. What country/region are you in? | 16:58 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: locally is Chicago USA, but the laptop is probaby DE | 16:58 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: you could try setting it, but I'd guess you've got a wifi device that doesn't abide by it. Try "sudo COUNTRY=US crda" | 17:02 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: is there something else I might check while it's up and working? | 17:12 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: you could check the "iwconfig" retry/invalid counts. Check repeatedly over time and see if they're increasing rapidly. that could indicate a radio/physical layer issue | 17:13 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: there's one other possibility, but the interface name you've got should be OK and shouldn't need this workaround. "sudo ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link" (see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386925/aborting-authentication-by-local-choice-reason-3-deauth-leaving-when-trying#386938 ) | 17:15 |
| pavlos | Ben64: did you resolve the vino issue? | 17:16 |
| gza_ | hi, steam has incredibly slow downloaded speeds for me. Has anyone else had this issue on 18.04? | 17:24 |
| thingfish | gza_: I often have issues with Steam speeds, but it usually is on a per-game basis. In other words, some titles download fine, whereas other titles are glacial at times. | 17:27 |
| craigbass76 | Is there some voodoo I've got to perform to get bidirectional clipboard working in VirtualBox? I'm running 18.04 on the regular computer, and Windows 10 in VB. | 17:31 |
| pedrocr | craigbass76: guest aditions are installed? | 17:32 |
| craigbass76 | pedrocr, I just installed virtualbox-guest-dkms and rebooted. | 17:33 |
| craigbass76 | Still no love | 17:33 |
| pedrocr | craigbass76: you have to install them inside windows | 17:33 |
| pedrocr | that won't do anything | 17:33 |
| craigbass76 | Gah... | 17:33 |
| pedrocr | that's the package to get guest aditions in a Linux guest | 17:33 |
| tomreyn | ...to be installed ON the linux guest, not the host | 17:34 |
| pavlos | craigbass76: start VB, settings, general, Advanced ... enable bi-directional | 17:34 |
| pedrocr | craigbass76: you need to install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso | 17:34 |
| pedrocr | and then load that ISO in windows and run the installer | 17:34 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: okay thanks. | 17:34 |
| craigbass76 | I don't see a devices menu that so many sites are talking about | 17:39 |
| tomreyn | craigbass76: it's on the VM's window, not the main Vbox Manager window. | 17:41 |
| craigbass76 | Yeah, I don't see it. In the user interface (the main window) I've now got mini toolbar checked to see at the top of the window, but I still don't have it. | 17:42 |
| pavlos | craigbass76: start win10 vm, top just before help is devices, insert additions, you will see it as drive D: | 17:42 |
| craigbass76 | There are no menus whatsoever up top | 17:43 |
| craigbass76 | All of this to just use powerpoint... We use weird colors and fonts, so I can't just use the online one. | 17:43 |
| tomreyn | main window -> right-click on VM -> settings -> user interface | 17:45 |
| craigbass76 | Yep | 17:46 |
| pavlos | libreoffice impress does not help? | 17:46 |
| craigbass76 | No, I've tried that and office people say it's wonky. | 17:46 |
| craigbass76 | I can work around it, just trying to make life a bit easier. I get to use a Linux box at work, so I should just count my blessings. | 17:47 |
| BlueProtoman | I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu from 18.10 to 19.04. But when I open Software Updater and click "Upgrade", the window closes and nothing else happens. What do I do? | 17:51 |
| MikeWorth | I'm looking to upgrade my computer, and want to get dual displays working. The monitors I have to hand are one VGA only 1920x1080 and one VGA/DVI 1680x1050. Having done this years ago, I seem to remember that some graphics cards are better supported than others; can anyone suggest something that'll be nice and easy to get working? I don't need anything particularly powerful - just browsing and videos mostly. I'm thin | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | MikeWorth: you are looking for ##hardware probably? | 17:53 |
| lotuspsychje | MikeWorth: or you want to know if your card will be ubuntu supported? | 17:53 |
| pavlos | BlueProtoman: look in software & sources, the option maybe be for LTS only | 17:53 |
| MikeWorth | I'm after something that ubuntu supports easily out of the box (I remember a few years ago having awful trouble with various semi-supported drivers) | 17:54 |
| pavlos | BlueProtoman: err ... software & Updates | 17:54 |
| BlueProtoman | pavlos: I can see the upgrade option, and I can click it, but then nothing happens | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | MikeWorth: ubuntu supports a lot of graphics cards, drivers for both nvidia and amd are pretty decent these days | 17:59 |
| MikeWorth | even for multiple displays? I remember spending days meddling with xorg.conf files | 18:00 |
| lotuspsychje | MikeWorth: usually xorg editing is not needed anymore | 18:00 |
| pavlos | MikeWorth: your graphics card has 2-, 4- outputs? vga,dvi, hdmi, dp ?? if you just plug in monitors and go to Display, you will see both or more monitors | 18:02 |
| TJ- | MikeWorth: provided the monitors send EDID, xorg/wayland will autoconfigure them | 18:03 |
| MikeWorth | Thanks for the advice, I'll order the bits and hook things up. Hopefully all will work straight away nowadays! | 18:10 |
| thingfish | MikeWorth: you should be optimistic; things have come a long way. I'm enjoying playing Dark Souls III on Ubuntu, and Sekiro runs well too. | 18:11 |
| joetakagi | TJ-: last one did it. | 18:15 |
| TJ- | joetakagi: darn! and that was the 1st idea I had but discounted it due to the interface name looking to be OK! | 18:19 |
| jayjo | I have attached a secondary ip address to my ubuntu instance in aws, and I have associated a public ip address to it, but I can't connect via this address. Do I need to do some netstat coniguration in order to recognize this additional traffic? | 18:21 |
| jayjo | i see this document: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ec2-ubuntu-secondary-network-interface/ - will I need to hardcode the addresses? | 18:24 |
| lotuspsychje | jayjo: is that on ubuntu server? | 18:30 |
| TJ- | jayjo: you've added a 2nd *interface* or just an additional IP address to the existing interface? | 18:35 |
| === jstein_ is now known as jstein | ||
| cnnx | i'm trying to find the bottleneck on my ubuntu system | 18:41 |
| cnnx | I have 20gb ram | 18:41 |
| lotuspsychje | !details | cnnx | 18:42 |
| ubottu | cnnx: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 18:42 |
| cnnx | and as soon as I start mining iwth my 6 nvidia GPUs it crawls when i use firefox | 18:42 |
| lordcirth | lol | 18:42 |
| blackflow | like, duh! | 18:42 |
| cnnx | what? | 18:42 |
| cnnx | win10 was fine | 18:42 |
| cnnx | didnt slow down | 18:42 |
| cnnx | whats the bottle neck | 18:42 |
| lordcirth | cnnx, set your mining processes to a high nice value | 18:43 |
| cnnx | ok i need to man nice right? | 18:43 |
| cnnx | wait | 18:43 |
| sarnold | are you upset that firefox went slow/ or upset that your mining went slow? | 18:43 |
| cnnx | firefox | 18:43 |
| cnnx | if i increase nice on firefox it should take priority | 18:43 |
| cnnx | right? | 18:43 |
| blackflow | cnnx: you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, right? | 18:44 |
| cnnx | yes | 18:44 |
| sarnold | nice means "please use less cpu" -- so you'd want to nice your mining | 18:44 |
| cnnx | oh ok | 18:44 |
| blackflow | cnnx: check if FF is configured to force hw accelleration | 18:44 |
| cnnx | so just nice the executable binary? | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | cnnx: pastebin: lsb_release -a && uname -a && sudo lshw -C video and we will start troubleshoot you | 18:44 |
| sarnold | on unix systems low process priorities are *higher* priorities | 18:44 |
| cnnx | ok hang on please | 18:44 |
| lordcirth | cnnx, it's not on executables, you have to call the miner with "nice" | 18:44 |
| blackflow | cnnx: layers.acceleration.disabled (must be false) in about:config | 18:45 |
| cnnx | so in my miner.sh | 18:45 |
| cnnx | preceed the executable with nice? | 18:45 |
| blackflow | if the miner is using the GPUs nice won't help unless it's also using teh CPU | 18:45 |
| lordcirth | Yes. Though the others here may suggest a better way. | 18:45 |
| cnnx | my desktop is using the igpu on the motherboard | 18:46 |
| blackflow | cnnx: you can test it with `nice sh miner.sh` in the script's dir | 18:46 |
| cnnx | the 6gpus are onyl for mining not for showing my desktop | 18:46 |
| pavlos | man nice, -20 is top priority, 19 is least priority. Most procs run at 0 | 18:46 |
| cnnx | do i need to send a parameter to nice like -20 ? | 18:46 |
| blackflow | no (and you don't want negative, but positive values) | 18:46 |
| cnnx | ok trying now | 18:46 |
| lordcirth | nice defaults to +10 | 18:47 |
| blackflow | I doubt nicing would help | 18:47 |
| lordcirth | It's worth a shot | 18:47 |
| blackflow | sure. | 18:47 |
| blackflow | I'm betting on the pci bandwidth. | 18:47 |
| blackflow | 6 gpus? dat sum srs lane width thar bud. | 18:48 |
| cnnx | the gpu is not the best G4500 but it was really fast on win10 and linux uses direct hardware addressing so it shouold be even faster | 18:48 |
| cnnx | still slow | 18:50 |
| lordcirth | G4500? What GPU is that? | 18:50 |
| blackflow | cnnx: note that OpenGL uses some CPU even if there's GPU. So if the miner is hogging the CPU as well (directly or through all the bandwidth handling with 6 GPUs), FF is gonna have hard time using hw accel. | 18:52 |
| blackflow | cnnx: but for starters, check if FF is hw accelerated. | 18:52 |
| cnnx | blackflow: where do i check that? in ff settings? | 18:54 |
| blackflow | cnnx: layers.acceleration.disabled (must be false) in about:config | 18:54 |
| cnnx | okty | 18:54 |
| cnnx | checking | 18:54 |
| cnnx | its already set to false | 18:56 |
| cnnx | what if i try true? | 18:57 |
| cnnx | im wondering if its cause the igpu is confused beyween nouveau and nvidia | 18:57 |
| cnnx | trying chrome | 18:58 |
| Pricey | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates#Using_the_.22unattended-upgrades.22_package does not work for me... "sudo unattended-upgrades -d" works fine. Looking at /var/log/unattended-upgrades I can see that cron is starting it but "o=Ubuntu,a=bionic-updates" is missing from the allowed origins when run from systemd? Why would manual runs be different? | 19:04 |
| cnnx | ey | 19:04 |
| cnnx | hey | 19:04 |
| cnnx | I did something... I started chrome, then started my miner and now everything is smooth, could firefox be the problem? | 19:05 |
| iffraff | I have a laptop (hp spectre 360 15"). It has intel gpu on board the motherboard, and a geforce mx150 card. I am running ubuntu 19.04. I have a laptop dock (cable matters thunderbolt 3 dock) that attaches via thunderbolt and has 1 hdmi out and 1 usb-c out ( for monitor ). Each of my monitors work separately but I can't get the system to use both of them. When I run xrandr I see both monitors and they both say connected. I don't know | 19:13 |
| iffraff | where the problem is. | 19:13 |
| iffraff | actually only one of them says connected now, but who knows maybe they used to both say connected | 19:14 |
| ioria | iffraff, no idea, but sometimes with an nvidia card might be useful to try lightdm (instad of gdm3); but could be a thunderbold issue | 19:18 |
| iffraff | I should try that as I've heard that before. I'm currently using the nvidia 390 driver. do you thknk that's better or worse than the nouvoux open source driver? | 19:22 |
| ioria | iffraff, nouveau with kernel 5 is ok, afaik | 19:23 |
| azx | hey guys i'm getting static in my audio when i play any audio | 19:24 |
| azx | what could cause this issue? | 19:25 |
| azx | it's going to my monitor speakers , and when i'm using windows or etc it does not occur | 19:25 |
| lordcirth | azx, what Ubuntu version? | 19:25 |
| azx | Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS | 19:26 |
| lordcirth | azx, if you run "pulseaudio -k" does it go away? | 19:27 |
| azx | odd, it seems to have fixed itself for the moment. Since it's thru shielded displayport cable i know it's not interference | 19:30 |
| azx | lordcirth: thank you for your help! | 19:31 |
| friendlyGoat | iwlwifi 0000:00:0c.0: BIOS contains WGDS but no WRDS, im still having an issue with this and i have no idea how to get rid of it | 19:44 |
| azx | what is the best way to get apps on ubuntu | 19:48 |
| azx | there's apt-get and snap , how do i keep them up to date? | 19:48 |
| azx | there is also the gui software manager | 19:48 |
| sarnold | azx: if the unattended-upgrades package is installed, your system will make sure security updates published through apt are installed overnight | 19:50 |
| azx | Alright, thank you ! | 19:52 |
| azx | should i use apt-get or snap to install unattended-upgrades | 19:52 |
| azx | it appears it is already installed | 19:52 |
| azx | how can I change the scale of the DE more granularly? as when i go into display manager it only offers me buttons in increments of 100% | 19:55 |
| azx | what if i want to change it to 125% | 19:55 |
| azx | i think a slider would be a more appropriate option here, i remember doing it in the past but don't remember how | 19:56 |
| azx | it appears i can do it through a cli tool called xrandr | 19:57 |
| azx | https://www.maketecheasier.com/enable-fractional-scaling-gnome/ | 19:59 |
| azx | hmm interesting , experimental feature | 19:59 |
| azx | After enabling the experimental feature, it doesn't seem to have taken effect in the display manager | 20:01 |
| azx | do i need to reboot? | 20:01 |
| TJ- | azx: no, but restart the DM/DE, by logging out | 20:01 |
| azx | Alright, thank you! :) brb | 20:01 |
| azx | after logging out of the DE and logging back in, it still hasn't taken effect in display manager | 20:03 |
| azx | i think i will have to resort to xrandr | 20:03 |
| azx | xrandr is quite a complex tool for someone of my stature | 20:04 |
| TJ- | azx: because the GUI is separate from the operating system (it's just another application) logging out to cause it to restart is all that is needed, unlike on Windows and Mac | 20:04 |
| TJ- | azx: although on Mac it should in theory be the same | 20:05 |
| JPSman | So, I just read an article about HiddenWasp -- Where can I get the latest information about this Linux Virus? | 20:29 |
| sarnold | JPSman: https://www.intezer.com/blog-hiddenwasp-malware-targeting-linux-systems/ | 20:32 |
| JPSman | sarnold, thank you, im reading this now | 20:33 |
| === capella|away is now known as capella | ||
| blazeme8 | I've had `debmirror` set up for a xenial & bionic mirror for awhile. I just tried adding disco and it's having trouble verifying the gpg signatures of the disco release files | 20:43 |
| blazeme8 | Did disco switch to a new apt signing key? | 20:43 |
| blazeme8 | they keys that ship in the docker image don't look any different from previous releases... | 20:43 |
| jayjo | I had to verify what I had actually done. I have added an additional interface and associated addresses with it on ubuntu. I see this guide here for how to https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ec2-ubuntu-secondary-network-interface/ actually use the second interface. When I edit the 51-eth1.yaml for the netplan, which is the internal ip of the interface? | 20:47 |
| sarnold | blazeme8: here's what I've got on my local mirror http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5jrzZBzGzY/ | 20:49 |
| sarnold | blazeme8: we've collected many of the gpg key fingerprints used by ubuntu on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#GPG_Keys_used_by_Ubuntu | 20:49 |
| blazeme8 | ahha | 20:53 |
| blazeme8 | thanks for the tip sarnold. I realized debmirror isnt using the system's default keyring, but an isolated one | 20:53 |
| blazeme8 | I guess i upgraded the host OS of my mirror at some point and forgot to import the updated keys :) | 21:00 |
| === ben_r_ is now known as ben_r | ||
| acresearch | people, i am trying to install ubuntu 19.04 on my macbook pro 2011 8,1 it worked previously but now it fails to install grub on /dev/sda how can i fix this so i can successfully install ubuntu? | 21:28 |
| lordcirth | acresearch, what exactly does the error say? Also, when you say it worked previously, what Ubuntu version was that? | 21:29 |
| acresearch | lordcirth: i have been working with ubuntu since 14.04 all worked up to 19.04 so i have had 19.04 working on this same laptop | 21:30 |
| acresearch | i decided to reformat my system but halfway through the installaition i get an error sayinf installl-grub failed to install grub in /dev/sda that is it, and it asks to restart after that the system has no OS (or one that does not boot) | 21:31 |
| jeremy31 | acresearch: UEFI install with internet connection? | 21:33 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: i do not know how to verify, | 21:34 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: but i do not get any errors | 21:34 |
| acresearch | about UEFI | 21:34 |
| jeremy31 | acresearch: post URL for> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:34 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: https://termbin.com/0s1a | 21:35 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: just so you know, i am on fedaro right now it is the only distro that i was able to install | 21:36 |
| jeremy31 | acresearch: Try installing Ubuntu again with no internet connection | 21:36 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: hmmm | 21:36 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: why do you think this will work? it takes 1.5 hours to install fedora so i have limited trial/error ability | 21:37 |
| jeremy31 | acresearch: An old bug might still be around, only affects EFI installs with internet connection | 21:37 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: hmmmm | 21:37 |
| acresearch | jeremy31: ok | 21:37 |
| acresearch | i will try | 21:37 |
| sarnold | blazeme8: aha! :) thanks for reporting back | 21:46 |
| ahi2 | jeremy31, so installing ubuntu without internet connection will allow install of bootloader to /dev/sda? | 21:56 |
| jeremy31 | ahi2: There were some major issues last July and it only seemed to affect people that were doing EFI installs with an internet connection while installing. Actually from looking at bug reports, the real issue might have not been fixed in any update | 21:58 |
| ahi2 | i have an acer 4750g laptop. wouldn't install bootloader to /dev/sda. had to install bootloader to efi partition. funny thing is i had 16.04 installed without efi | 21:58 |
| sarnold | some systems are legacy bios only; some systems are efi only; many will let you switch between them as you wish, via a switch in the bios settings | 21:59 |
| jeremy31 | ahi2: If you had EFI with CSM/Legacy support enabled you could have booted the installer in EFI | 21:59 |
| ahi2 | ok | 22:00 |
| === Vilegent is now known as kk4ewt | ||
| ahi2 | the bios doesnt have a choice of legacy or uefi | 22:02 |
| ahi2 | sohow could i have install 16.04 bootloader to /dev/sda and 18.04 had to install to efi partition? | 22:03 |
| jeremy31 | ahi2: Might have just been a change in the installer and how things are worded. I think part of grub in EFI is installed to /dev/sda and then it installs some other files in /EFI/ubuntu | 22:05 |
| ahi2 | oh | 22:05 |
| truexfan81 | can someone help me make an fstab line? i want to automount a ntfs partition by uuid and have it mount with correct permissions so i can rw, etc without having to sudo | 22:26 |
| truexfan81 | it seems mounting them into custom directories in my home folder gives the correct permissions automatically, so now i just have have to make fstab do that | 22:31 |
| absurd_stuff | hi | 22:32 |
| el_maquinisto | Hello all | 22:35 |
| el_maquinisto | would anyone here be able to help me with vim syntax highlighting? | 22:37 |
| sarnold | depends on the question :) | 22:39 |
| el_maquinisto | I'm using a custom syntax highlighter. Works fine if I load a file. But when I load a second file in another vim window, the second file doesn't get highlighted | 22:41 |
| el_maquinisto | no idea why | 22:41 |
| sarnold | hmm, I've got some autocmd rules to set specific syntax types for specific filenames | 22:43 |
| sarnold | also a simple 'filetype plugin on' for the more advanced syntax rules that know how to identify their files | 22:43 |
| b1ack0p | doesnt ubuntu server have user interface? is it only command line? | 22:47 |
| sarnold | b1ack0p: you can certainly install x11 with your choice of environment, or wayland, if you so choose | 22:47 |
| b1ack0p | sarnold: i watched installation on youtube and it all shows server command line. i didnt see desktop environment | 22:48 |
| b1ack0p | i mean official setup | 22:48 |
| sarnold | b1ack0p: whoever filmed the video must not have wanted to install one | 22:48 |
| el_maquinisto | @sarnold I'm afraid most of that went over my head but thanks for the help | 22:48 |
| b1ack0p | hmm so by default there is no desktop right? | 22:48 |
| sarnold | b1ack0p: yeah, the installer and cloud images don't bother installing one, the clear majority of server installs don't have monitors attached | 22:48 |
| b1ack0p | i got it | 22:49 |
| b1ack0p | can i install gnome as ubuntu desktop? | 22:49 |
| el_maquinisto | I think I'm gonna try going back to step one and read the manual again | 22:49 |
| b1ack0p | el_maquinisto: what are u editing on vim? | 22:50 |
| el_maquinisto | nc files, g-code | 22:50 |
| el_maquinisto | CNC machine code | 22:50 |
| b1ack0p | ok | 22:50 |
| el_maquinisto | i found a syntax highlighter plugin on vim.org. It's good. but only for one file at a time :P | 22:51 |
| sarnold | b1ack0p: probably "apt install gnome-session" would get you most of the way there | 22:51 |
| b1ack0p | sarnold: thx i will try that | 22:51 |
| truexfan81 | disregard my earlier question, i found a gui way to do it, and its working perfectly | 22:56 |
| t0ntin | Hi, all. Can someone tell me how to access vivaldi temporary files? I don't now a lot about linux. Thanks. | 23:29 |
| sarnold | what's vivaldi? | 23:30 |
| TimeDoctor | browser | 23:30 |
| sarnold | aha | 23:30 |
| sarnold | you can use fatrace to see what files are being opened and closed; if you run that at the same time that vivaldi is running, you should be able to see where the files are | 23:31 |
| lawltoad | Hi, I tried to use chntpw to change my windows password but it dosn't seem to be actually changing the file. | 23:35 |
| Moule_Noir | Hello | 23:37 |
| telescopeemoji3 | Why does Ubuntu Server for RPI3 image update to RPI2? | 23:41 |
| Moule_Noir | Hey tele can you see my chat? | 23:41 |
| Moule_Noir | I'm new to IRC, trying to see if it is working | 23:41 |
| pavlos | Moule_Noir: it's working | 23:42 |
| Moule_Noir | awesome! | 23:42 |
| Moule_Noir | Thank you | 23:42 |
| pavlos | Moule_Noir: yw | 23:42 |
| Moule_Noir | Any of the games in Ubuntu Software worth checking out? I am new to linux. | 23:47 |
| t0ntin | sarnold, I just installed something called report system wide file access events (fatrace). Is that the one? How do I use it? | 23:47 |
| sarnold | t0ntin: run 'sudo fatrace' in a terminal then do what you're doing :) | 23:48 |
| telescopeemoji3 | we should just grid it out and let the thunder roll | 23:50 |
| t0ntin | sarnold, it's still going... | 23:56 |
| sarnold | t0ntin: it'll run forever | 23:56 |
| sarnold | t0ntin: you can use ^C to kill it | 23:56 |
| truexfan81 | ubuntu 19.04 running mate, compiz, i'm wondering how to get wobbly windows and desktop cube, the seem to be missing | 23:56 |
| t0ntin | so what do I do? | 23:56 |
| Isildur | hello | 23:57 |
| t0ntin | ok | 23:57 |
| sarnold | t0ntin: do whatver it is you want to do with your browser, see where it puts temporary files, then you can go look for them :) | 23:57 |
| t0ntin | i'm not quite sure how to do that | 23:57 |
| Isildur | hey, i have some problems with audio card who's not recognized. if someone can help me, please. | 23:59 |
| pavlos | truexfan81: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins | 23:59 |
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