| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers, happy Monday! | 06:19 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 06:24 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:25 |
| oSoMoN | bon week-end? | 06:26 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, bon week-end, et toi ? | 06:26 |
| oSoMoN | très bon, j’ai passé tout le week-end dehors à prendre l’air et le soleil, ça fait du bien :) | 06:29 |
| didrocks | super :) | 06:30 |
| marcustomlinson | morning oSoMoN and didrocks, good weekend? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson, good, yourself? | 07:26 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: yeah so so. Wife's sick so lots of babysitting | 07:27 |
| didrocks | not so relaxing thus :( | 07:27 |
| marcustomlinson | not so much :P | 07:28 |
| marcustomlinson | morning seb128, good long weekend? | 07:54 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, indeed! weather was summer like, especially yesterday | 07:54 |
| marcustomlinson | good! | 07:54 |
| seb128 | how was your w.e? | 07:54 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:56 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke! how are you? | 07:57 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: my weekend was ok thanks | 07:58 |
| Laney | hey ho ho ho ho de hi | 08:02 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson, seb128, willcooke, Laney | 08:03 |
| jibel | hi all | 08:03 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Laney willcooke and jibel | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, wb jibel had nice holidays? | 08:04 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? | 08:04 |
| Laney | moin oSoMoN jibel marcustomlinson seb128 | 08:04 |
| willcooke | hey seb128, not too bad | 08:05 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, la forme, et toi? | 08:05 |
| Laney | yo willcooke | 08:06 |
| willcooke | sup Laney | 08:06 |
| Laney | this and/or that | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, Laney | 08:07 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, bon retour de vacances | 08:07 |
| Laney | got a pineberry plant at the weekend, for a bit of novelty fruit | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 08:07 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, en forme! | 08:09 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, never heard of pineberry before, that looks exotic and tasty! | 08:10 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: I hadn't either until Saturday morning! | 08:11 |
| jibel | merci didrocks | 08:18 |
| jibel | merci aussi seb128 , nice holidays despite a couple of rainy days | 08:21 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 08:34 |
| === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer | ||
| cpaelzer | hmm, maybe I just don't know what to search for but I can't find it on the net | 11:25 |
| cpaelzer | with 18.04 when connecting a new screen, the default is to arrange all screens in a row | 11:25 |
| cpaelzer | that is sort of silly if the sum of screens is wider than the maximum width | 11:26 |
| cpaelzer | I wonder what to do to avoid that | 11:26 |
| cpaelzer | xrandr reports "current 5760 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192" | 11:26 |
| cpaelzer | (that is three screens= | 11:27 |
| cpaelzer | plugging a 2560 wide screen in addition breaks things, as it gets me above the 8192 | 11:27 |
| cpaelzer | arranged in two rows things would work fine | 11:27 |
| cpaelzer | and actually if getting to a menu to set this in displays it works fine | 11:27 |
| cpaelzer | but if then I plug another 2560 display it does the same again | 11:27 |
| cpaelzer | and this time it seems to much, I can't find the display settings in what is left of my desktop | 11:28 |
| cpaelzer | so I wonder if I could pre-arrange or change the default from row to something else | 11:28 |
| seb128 | hey cpaelzer | 11:28 |
| cpaelzer | even top-down would work as all the screens are not too high | 11:28 |
| cpaelzer | hi seb128 | 11:28 |
| seb128 | I don't think you can change the default | 11:28 |
| seb128 | but it should remember your configs and when you connect the same screens reapply what you configured last time you were in that setup | 11:29 |
| cpaelzer | hmm, then I need to "find" my display settings in the 5 display setup | 11:29 |
| cpaelzer | I only had 1.5 displays left working after pluggin that | 11:29 |
| cpaelzer | probably the left or right max of the default setup | 11:30 |
| cpaelzer | I'll let you know what happens seb128 | 11:30 |
| seb128 | thx | 11:31 |
| seb128 | that's probably worth an upstream bug report with your suggestions btw | 11:31 |
| cpaelzer | will do so after I have more data | 11:32 |
| seb128 | thx | 11:32 |
| cpaelzer | I just checked the journald on the last boot | 11:32 |
| cpaelzer | there is some crashing/error when applying the config | 11:32 |
| cpaelzer | I might need to ask or file abug for that as well | 11:32 |
| cpaelzer | kernel: [drm:drm_atomic_helper_wait_for_flip_done [drm_kms_helper]] *ERROR* [CRTC:55:pipe B] flip_done timed out | 11:34 |
| cpaelzer | outch | 11:34 |
| cpaelzer | lets see how reproducible that part of it will be (I hope not) | 11:34 |
| seb128 | kernel/video driver bug? | 11:34 |
| cpaelzer | yes | 11:34 |
| cpaelzer | that seems to be the root cause why my "apply config" with 5 screens just failed | 11:35 |
| cpaelzer | I'll complete some other work as that seems to include some reboots | 11:36 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: as an alternative can I raise that default 8192x8192 limit? | 11:58 |
| seb128 | that's a video driver/stack one no? | 11:59 |
| seb128 | would be a question for the kernel team | 12:00 |
| cpaelzer | I didn't know who set that limit | 12:00 |
| cpaelzer | if you say so | 12:00 |
| cpaelzer | any buzzwords that are worth to mention? | 12:00 |
| cpaelzer | like tbfkaf = the-buffer-formerly-known-as-framebuffer | 12:01 |
| cpaelzer | or anything like it | 12:01 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, I'm not familiar with the topic but https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6bghzm/increasing_maximum_xorg_virtual_screen_resolution/ has some details | 12:03 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, the comments suggest that until intel gen7 that was an hardware limitation | 12:04 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102508 seems relevant | 12:05 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 102508 in Driver/modesetting "Can't configure a desktop with 3x4k monitors in one row (modesetting)" [Normal,Resolved: moved] | 12:05 |
| marcustomlinson | bah, gitlab is down too often | 12:33 |
| marcustomlinson | at least not for long thankfully | 12:37 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: it didn't crash this time and things work fine | 13:29 |
| cpaelzer | I had opened display settings beforehand and focussed to be able to key-move it to a screen I could see | 13:29 |
| cpaelzer | never the less I should report the "do not put all in a row" bug | 13:30 |
| cpaelzer | any suggestion where that would be against? | 13:30 |
| cpaelzer | I mean who decides that they should be in a row at first - xserver? | 13:31 |
| cpaelzer | or anything in gnome | 13:31 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, good question, I don't know for sure, I think it's xorg but maybe GNOME would make sense to put some logic... | 13:34 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ do you know? | 13:34 |
| tjaalton | seb128: the server has some defaults, but the DE can do whatever | 13:37 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, would it make sense to have the server default changed for that problem though? | 13:38 |
| cpaelzer | server would be https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/new then I guess? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | seems the right place to fix it rather than having every desktop handling | 13:38 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, yes | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | I don't think so | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | having them in a row makes most sense to me | 13:38 |
| cpaelzer | all I want is a safer default | 13:38 |
| cpaelzer | as the "all in a row" breaks | 13:38 |
| cpaelzer | and xorg could have known | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | you probably want the 8k limit bumped | 13:38 |
| cpaelzer | there always will be some limit | 13:39 |
| cpaelzer | isn't something like "start a second row once > limit" better | 13:39 |
| cpaelzer | whatever the limit will be | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | for recent enough (intel) hw it'll be 16k in 5.3 | 13:39 |
| cpaelzer | so that still is killed by 5 4k screens (a lot I admit) | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | you can't connect those to any intel | 13:40 |
| cpaelzer | I already use i915 + displaylink now | 13:40 |
| cpaelzer | the maximum did not increase by using that, but then that is kind of a special extra device (compared to a secong real graphics card) | 13:41 |
| tjaalton | seb128: and what about wayland then? the compositor would "own" the defaults there anyway | 13:42 |
| tjaalton | anyway, don't get your hopes up for seeing it changed in xserver upstream | 13:43 |
| tjaalton | pretty sure there are bugs filed already | 13:43 |
| seb128 | k, fair enough | 13:43 |
| cpaelzer | yep fair | 13:43 |
| cpaelzer | I haven't found others, but as we all know sometimes they are hard to search for | 13:44 |
| cpaelzer | I'll file one | 13:44 |
| cpaelzer | and since I got around it I'm fine | 13:44 |
| cpaelzer | knowing that 5.3 will give me 15k sounds great as well | 13:44 |
| cpaelzer | thank tjaalton | 13:44 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, tjaalton, thx | 13:44 |
| tjaalton | cpaelzer: depends on your hw though.. it's haswell and up | 13:45 |
| cpaelzer | "Kaby Lake Refresh" here | 13:46 |
| tjaalton | good enough | 13:46 |
| tjaalton | haswell is ~5y old | 13:47 |
| marlinc | What is the second button for? https://vitux.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/word-image-95.png | 13:47 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/822 we will see | 13:51 |
| gitbot | xorg issue 822 in xserver "Do not default align all displays horizontally if over the maximum width" [Opened] | 13:51 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, thx! | 13:52 |
| seb128 | marlinc, block screen rotation | 13:52 |
| marlinc | Oh wow okay | 13:52 |
| marlinc | Never knew such a thing existed on a laptop | 13:52 |
| seb128 | you probably have a convertible? | 13:53 |
| marlinc | Not me but a collegue | 13:55 |
| marlinc | But it is a regular laptop | 13:55 |
| cyphermox | seb128: hey | 14:45 |
| cyphermox | re: NetworkManager autopkgtests. I think I've ported most of it, but still having issues with the add-and-activate process for wifis. I'm reasonably certain I'm close to having it working, but I don't know what's missing. It might just be pretty obvious to somehow who has their GLib/gir knowledge more recent and ready than mine. anyone could have a look if I push this to a separate branch? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, thanks for working on that! tkamppeter is looking at n-m for us so he could probably have a look yes | 15:29 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tkamppeter^ | 15:29 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| cyphermox | seb128: kenvandine: tkamppeter: https://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/log/?h=gir-nm | 19:53 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thx | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | marcustomlinson: collaboration setup on those snaps so CI should be able to publish them | 20:20 |
| === lan3y is now known as Laney | ||
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