[00:18] <glick> hi, why doesnt this work?
[00:18] <glick> sudo find / -iname 'mysql*' -exec rm -rf {} \;
[00:18] <glick> i get cannot remove...... operation not permitted
[00:20] <glick> anyone have any idea why that command doesnt work? even as sudo?
[00:21] <Ben64> seems like a bad idea to run that
[00:21] <glick> i didnt ask if it was a good idea or bad idea
[00:21] <Ben64> I know
[00:22] <compdoc> your running sudo find, but not sudo rm
[00:22] <OerHeks> sudo -i && bla bla
[00:25] <glick> why does removing mysql not remove it completely
[00:25] <glick> i want EVERYTHING to do with mysql to be deleted
[00:26] <glick> i deleted, it and then when i reinstalled it, now its screwed
[00:26] <glick> mysql command isnt found
[00:27] <OerHeks> glick, and on what ubuntu version?
[00:27] <glick> 19.04
[00:28] <glick> i want to completely uninstall and completely reinstall
[00:28] <OerHeks> so your action is not supported by us, you knew that, fix it yourself?
[00:28] <glick> OerHeks: ? what?
[00:29] <OerHeks> interesting is what you are going to try next
[00:29] <OerHeks> apt autoremove? clean?
[00:30] <glick> OerHeks: instead of insulting me, if you dont want to help me, jsut ignore me
[00:32] <Ben64> what's the goal
[00:32] <glick> to uninstall mysql completely and reinstall it
[00:33] <Ben64> sudo apt purge mysql-server && sudo apt install mysql-server
[00:34] <glick> when i try to reinstall i get error codes
[00:35] <Ben64> pastebin it
[00:38] <glick> ok fixed it
[00:38] <glick> what a pain in the butt
[00:58] <GrimSleepless> :q
[01:24] <GrimSleepless> /set weechat.color.status_data_highlight 163
[01:25] <GrimSleepless> sorry :S configuring wechat obviously :P
[01:28] <OerHeks> there is a #test channel on #freenode
[01:32] <GrimSleepless> thank you! :)
[01:37] <Carlito98890> hello
[01:38] <Carlito98890> anyone for an help?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !ask | Carlito98890
[01:39] <Carlito98890> someone did help me in these days with this..
[01:40] <Carlito98890> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1831301
[01:40] <Carlito98890> but nothing seems to be able to fix it
[01:40] <Carlito98890> no one*
[01:59] <jpleau> Hi. What's the best way to make gnome aware of new changes in .desktop files? For example I removed a .desktop file, yet it's still being used by gnome. I've tried what I used in the best: update-desktop-database, but it seems only a logout does what I want. Is there another way?
[02:07] <OerHeks> i think that action forces you to logout, to fix, by design, and when you login, the database might be 'restored'?
[02:08] <OerHeks> not sure, i never tried to recreate the .desktop file(s) like that
[02:16] <BruceTheMoose> I’m running Ubuntu 18.04.02 LTS. I'm trying to send output from the TunTap's TUN driver over a wifi link using NAT in the iptables.  I’ve enabled net filter logging and can’t seem to grasp why this is not working.  These are the iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gTMjmRSX8q/.  This is the trace of a simple "ping -c1 8.8.8.8”  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yz4Y79YqM2/ that works (without going through the tun0
[02:16] <BruceTheMoose> driver).  Going through the tun interface, "ping -c1 -I tun0 8.8.8.8" I get this trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/svNmN7rXSH/.  Any suggestions what I might be missing?
[02:24] <muniter> Hello
[02:26] <GrimSleepless> muniter: hello :)
[02:27] <muniter> Just getting started with irc.
[06:50] <TJ-> Am I missing something? should the apt policy for a package that exists in two releases (after a d-r-u) have a higher priority for the current release in a reachable archive? Noticed several packages, that after a d-r-u from 16.04 to 18.04 are showing as preferring, and having still installed, the 16.04 versions ("installed, local"). I'm seeing the 16.04 package have higher priority (100) vs the current
[06:50] <TJ-> release (500)
[07:19] <TJ-> oh fooey; packages come from -proposed but I disabled that for stability :)
[07:22] <TJ-> Just noticed a nasty 'gotchya' from a couple of PPAs that publish same-version packages for multiple releases, and append the release name using the ~<release> versioning. A d-r-u from Xenial (16.04) to Bionic (18.04) fails to upgrade such packages because 'x' is greater than 'b' in the ~xenial vs ~bionic version string!
[07:23] <TJ-> whois zx2c4
[07:23] <TJ-> oops
[07:55] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: what ubuntu release is it?
[07:59] <bleb> is there a good tool for printing pdfs which are too large for letter paper?
[07:59] <bleb> for example: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/03/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf
[08:01] <bleb> by default if i print that it basically takes an 8 1/2 by 11 cut out of the center and prints that
[08:02] <Ascavasaion> TJ-, Bionic
[08:05] <TJ-> bleb: printer options should allow scaling to page
[08:06] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: it sounds like a problem with the GUI not getting privileges. Two log-files you can check. "sudo less /var/log/auth.log" (press uppercase G to goto end of file and work backwards for clues) and also, in case the GUI is crashing, "less $HOME/.xsession-errors"
[08:10] <Pricey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates#Using_the_.22unattended-upgrades.22_package does not work for me... "sudo unattended-upgrades -d" works fine. Looking at /var/log/unattended-upgrades I can see that cron is starting it but "o=Ubuntu,a=bionic-updates" is missing from the allowed origins when run from systemd? Why would manual runs be different?
[08:11] <bleb> TJ-: yeah i can get the top of the PDF printed on a page in landscape by manually fiddling with the scaling
[08:11] <TJ-> bleb: what program are you using to view/print the PDF?
[08:11] <bleb> TJ-: evince
[08:13] <TJ-> bleb: seems like it only has a Page Options > Scale manual option
[08:15] <TJ-> bleb: oh no, Page Handling > Page Scaling > Fit to printable area + maybe auto-rotate and centre
[08:15] <bleb> yeah but that shrinks the whole thing
[08:15] <Ascavasaion> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PbMRgTSppc/ <== This is what happens when I deliberately invoked the error trying to open xdiagnose which I know bombs out each time.
[08:15] <bleb> i mean, it makes the vertical dimension small enough to fit on a page
[08:16] <bleb> what i want is to make it narrow enough to fit on a landscape page, and print the whole thing on multiple pages
[08:16] <bleb> its easy enough to manually tweak the scaling but then i still only ge one page, only the top part of the pdf
[08:22] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: weird, no clue there
[08:23] <Ascavasaion> TJ-, I noticed.  So frustrated.
[08:24] <pga69> Hey, so I have an issue with ping. I modified the /etc/network/interfaces to set up a dhcp server, and now ping reports 100% packet loss when I ping any website. I even changed the config back, but still no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
[08:24] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: are you using Wayland session? "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE"
[08:25] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: as I recall Wayland prevents using any elevated privileges, where Xorg allows it
[08:30] <Ascavasaion> TJ-, the echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE gives one line... "x11"
[08:33] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: so should be Xorg not Wayland then; hmmph!
[08:34] <Ascavasaion> TJ-, What now?  It used to work, but I noticed a while back that it ews giving trouble.  I used CLI, but I would like to use GUI as well for things.
[08:34] <Ascavasaion> ews=was
[08:39] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: I'm not entirely sure; there do not seem to be any clues, looks like programs silently close
[09:09] <legreffier> matin du lundi bonheur de la joie du service compta qui retrouvait pas le mdp d'un service a 20$/mois et qui a reset le mdp. et qui a mis en rideau le service correspondant. pendant 4 jours.
[09:09] <legreffier> amour. joie.
[09:09] <legreffier> PARCE QUE TU COMPRENDS E_NO_FACTURE
[09:10] <legreffier> oopsie wrong chan
[09:13] <Kendos-Kenlen> After how  much time a package is deleted from a PPA? I keep seeing my package listed despite requesting the deletion almost a month ago... :/
[09:14] <jeremy31> Kendos-Kenlen: Maybe ask in #launchpad
[09:15] <Kendos-Kenlen> Indeed, thank you jeremy31!
[09:55] <akem> Hey
[10:00] <akem> I had the same problem this morning, computer RAM was full and frozen i had to shut it down with the button.
[10:00] <cfhowlett> details?
[10:02] <akem> cfhowlett, i run stock ubuntu 18.04 i installed 2 days ago, and if i let the computer sit 1 night running just few apps with 1 firefox streaming youtube then the morning RAM is full and computer is unresponsive.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> repeated behavior or once?
[10:02] <akem> repeated
[10:03] <akem> https://imgur.com/a/O6wp6II
[10:03] <akem> I think it has to do with the gnome memory leak, i think i'm gonna try cinnamon.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> good plan!
[10:06] <jeremy31> akem: The CInnamon used by Mint 18 had a memory leak
[10:06] <jeremy31> akem, what plugins do you have for firefox?
[10:07] <akem> jeremy31, aw :( i'm installing it right now - just adblock plus
[10:07] <jeremy31> akem: I didn't notice a big leak on Cinnamon on Ubuntu 18.04
[10:08] <jeremy31> akem: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321997/debugging-high-near-total-cpu-memory-usage-of-web-content-application-on-lin
[10:08] <akem> jeremy31, ha ok, cool then, might do it.
[10:09] <akik> what's ubuntu's policy on using NOPASSWD in sudoers? i'm asking because cloud-init is still doing it for the default user and cloud-init is originally a ubuntu project if i remember correctly
[10:10] <akem> jeremy31, i see but it's not firefox eating up my RAM, see my screenshot that i did yesterday, i couldn't do one this morning tho.
[10:11] <jeremy31> akem, I saw web content just like in the link I posted
[10:13] <jack> disco (19.04) is current, right?
[10:14] <rory> yes jack that is the latest release. The latest long-term support release is 18.04
[10:14] <jeremy31> jack, newest supported short term support
[10:14] <jack> perfect, thx
[10:15] <jack> now which one do i want to install: ubuntu, xubuntu or kubuntu
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !flavors | jack your choice
[10:16] <jack> i know that, cfhowlett
[10:16] <jack> just wondering what i want :)
[10:17] <TJ-> jack: to be more assertive than Hamlet, Prince of Denmark!
[10:17] <jack> heh
[10:17] <jack> to be or not to be
[10:18] <jack> deeper than my inquiry
[10:18] <rory> to LTS or not to LTS.
[10:18] <jack> :P
[10:19] <jack> lts would be 18.04 or so, right?
[10:19] <SimonNL> !lts
[10:20] <jack> SimonNL: i know
[10:20] <akem> Hey again, so i installed cinnamon ok, but it still start up with gnome after i log in, i tried a solution online but it doesn't work, any help to start cinnamon?
[10:21] <jeremy31> akem, log out of session, click gear icon on login window, select cinnamon
[10:22] <OerHeks> akem, logout, click your username, then the icon to change DE appears  .. but letting firefox stream over night, maybe not a gnome memory leak at all
[10:22] <akem> jeremy31, on the gear icon, there is only ubuntu or wayland, i didn't find anything else.
[10:22] <jeremy31> akem: Cinnamon isn't going to stop Firefox from using memory with multiple tabs open
[10:22] <jeremy31> akem, what package did you install?
[10:23] <akem> jeremy31, "cinnamon"
[10:23] <akem> That's what i read online, that i had to install, and it did install all other deps.
[10:23] <akem> Maybe i'll reboot entierly
[10:24] <akem> brb.
[10:26] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:27] <akem> It worked after a reboot, thanks jeremy31 and OerHeks.
[10:27] <jeremy31> akem, try using chromium and see if it has the same problem
[10:28] <akem> jeremy31, ok i'll try chromium too.
[10:39] <jack> is chromium like chrome, only without google branding?
[10:42] <rory> yes.
[10:42] <rory> chromium is the open source project developed by Google + others
[10:42] <rory> Chrome is Google's branded chromium-based browser. There are other chromium-based browsers too.
[10:44] <jack> rory: but how to get it, in ubuntu? "chromium-bsu" is a game :/
[10:45] <TJ-> !info chromium-browser | jack
[10:45] <jack> great :) thx
[10:51] <jack> looks good, so far
[10:51] <jack> chrome in blue
[11:32] <jack> is "nemo" better than nautilus?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> jack: we dont really take polls here
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> jack: feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss for reccomends
[11:33] <jack> lotuspsychje: what's your opinion? nemo or nautilus?
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> jack: read above ^
[11:34] <jack> kk
[11:45] <steveire> I have a usb drive that I *can* use with my old laptop. I have plugged it into my new laptop and it can't seem to access the external drive. Here's dmesg, fdisk -l and lsusb : https://pastebin.com/kvUC586Y Any tips?
[11:53] <mguy> steveire: can you run lsblk -f
[11:54] <leftyfb> steveire: boot into Windows and run chkdsk /f /r on your drive. Then reboot back into Windows. Run it again, Then reboot back into Windows. Then it should mount properly in Ubuntu.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> -he's crossposting in #kubuntu , trying a reboot
[11:56] <leftyfb> a reboot is not sufficient for a dirty NTFS filesystem
[11:57] <cfhowlett> exactly!
[11:59] <demetris> hi
[11:59] <BluesKaj> well, instant gratification syndrome
[11:59] <demetris> i found it quite a bug and i said lets report it
[12:00] <demetris> http://dpaste.com/0KNHTYD
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !but | demetris report it properly
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !bug
[12:00] <demetris> its an apt upgrade yes that aborted it self after (y)
[12:00] <demetris> weird bug
[12:00] <demetris> second time worked fine
[12:54] <rory> I'm wondering why Ubuntu service files go in /etc/systemd whereas on CentOS they go in /lib/systemd - is one canonically correct? Why might a distro choose a different location?
[12:56] <pragmaticenigma> rory: That is a choice made by the developers of each distribution. There is no right or wrong way. Just the preference of the teams working on each project. Please remember that this channel is for support questions and topics. For other discussions, please join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[12:56] <rory> I know, I waited for a quiet time. I'll bring it up there, thanks.
[12:56] <TJ-> rory: which in particular are you referring to?
[12:57] <pragmaticenigma> TJ-: already asked them to move the discussion to a more appropriate forum
[12:58] <TJ-> rory: FYi: in the entire Ubuntu archives only one package (solr-tomcat) installs to /etc/systemd/system/
[13:13] <vimacs> I have a machine which has no GPU in my CPU, and it has an NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti on the PCIe slot. I've tried the nvidia driver in the PPA and the driver downloaded from the nvidia website, but I can't see the gdm interface.
[13:13] <Sonderblade> unity fails to start when i login, only the x server does, how can i fix that?
[13:19] <WebDoll> What service does Ubuntu 18.04 use to send system-generated email messages? Sendmail? Postfix? exim4?
[13:20] <adac> : Package 'oracle-java8-installer' has no installation candidate on 16.04 even tough I follow these installation howto:
[13:20] <adac> https://askubuntu.com/questions/790671/oracle-java8-installer-no-installation-candidate/854553#854553
[13:20] <adac> I'm wondering why this is happening it was working some time ago
[13:20] <WebDoll> I have some old PHP apps that send email using PHP's mail() function, so I need to configure exim4/sendmail/postfix to send outgoing mail through Amazon SES via SMTP, and I'm just wondering which one I should configure—exim4, sendmail, or postfix.
[13:21] <xamithan> postfix probably easiest
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> adac: Oracle no longer support Java8 and it is no longer available from their servers without a paid support package from Oracle. Please contact Oracle for more informamtion about their Java 8 packages and support.
[13:30] <mguy> openjdk!
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> mguy: openjdk follows the same life cycle of Oracle java... openjdk is also no longer active
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> mguy: openjdk8 is also not easily installed
[13:35] <mguy> crap
[13:35] <mguy> doesn't make it easy when eclipse/netbeans exxpect java 7 or 8
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> mguy: eclipse is already updated to look for the latest java packages. you might want to make sure you are running the latest versions.
[13:38] <akik> mguy: the old java versions are archived here: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/archive-139210.html (no you don't need a paid support package to download them, but you need an account)
[13:44] <trurl> i used an install script when installing the unifi-controller on 18.04. the controller needs openjdk8. so it's possible. the script uses deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openjdk-r/ppa/ubuntu bionic main - so maybe start there?
[13:44] <trurl> this is the script: https://get.glennr.nl/unifi/5.10.24/U1804/unifi-5.10.24.sh
[13:56] <sambagirl> is anyone running a gui of ubuntu inside w10?
[14:08] <the2048> so when I was updating my laptop from 16.04.2 to 18.04 it hard crashed (not a kernel panic, no magic sysrq would help). now it's stuck waiting for something
[14:08] <the2048> says "waiting for unattended_upgr to exit"
[14:08] <the2048> anyone know what happened so that dpkg gets unlocked and updates continue?
[14:09] <sambagirl> i disabled that unattended module
[14:10] <acebrianjuan> Hi pals
[14:10] <sambagirl> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:11] <sambagirl> !aptlock | sambagirl/
[14:11] <sambagirl> replace with your name :D
[14:11] <sambagirl> sudo apt remove unattended-upgrades
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> !who | sambagirl
[14:11] <sambagirl> that resolved that problem for me
[14:12] <acebrianjuan> How can I create a symlink between a device in /dev/ such as /dev/tnt0 and a wine device such as ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1 ?
[14:12] <akik> sambagirl: yes it's possible but not supported. you just need a x11 server installed on windows
[14:12] <the2048> I'll just leave unattended_upgr be in terms of disabling it, but I'll unlock my apt database right now
[14:13] <sambagirl> the2048 i recommend removing it cause for some reason it acts up for me anyway
[14:13] <pragmaticenigma> acebrianjuan: symlink will not work
[14:13] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: how come?
[14:13] <the2048> sambagirl, what Ubuntu version are you on? my desktop is on 18.04 and it works perfectly, only on my laptop that runs 16.04.2 that it crashed
[14:14] <pragmaticenigma> acebrianjuan: Wine is a layer that translates the Linux/Unix subsystems to a compatible Windows layer for Windows based applications
[14:14] <sambagirl> akik i downloaded some app for xwindows off sourceforge VcXsrv Windows X Server
[14:14] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: I need to write data to a tty which will be forwarded to a wine com port
[14:15] <revolutionary> f
[14:15] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: I'm using this module: https://github.com/freemed/tty0tty
[14:15] <acebrianjuan> which allows us to connect tty's
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> acebrianjuan: The latest I'm seeing states the following: Starting from Wine version 2.8, giving user access to serial ports is the only thing you need to do. Ports should be detected automatically.
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> acebrianjuan: make sure the current user is added to "dialout" group and it should work
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: I'm a little bit confused now. Should i create the symlink then?
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> these are the steps I intented to follow:
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> sudo depmod
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> sudo modprobe tty0tty
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> sudo chmod 666 /dev/tnt*
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> ls -n /dev/tnt0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
[14:20] <acebrianjuan> ^ this last command is supposed to create the symlink
[14:23] <anddam> howdy, does Ubuntu support rebooting into recovery image via reboot(2) ?
[14:23] <anddam> namely I wonder if there is an additional argument to 'systemctl reboot' that will reboot straight into recovery
[14:27] <EriC^^> anddam: i think you can use some grub program to choose which entry it'll boot the next time (as a one time boot option)
[14:27] <anddam> grub program?
[14:27] <EriC^^> anddam: "man grub-reboot"
[14:27] <anddam> oh I see, thanks
[14:27] <xamithan> Can't you just systemctl rescue
[14:28] <xamithan> or is that another distro I'm thinking of
[14:28] <EriC^^> np
[14:28] <anddam> yep, it is a systemctl legit command
[14:28] <anddam> xamithan:^
[14:28] <tomreyn> but this wont reboot
[14:29] <anddam> tomreyn: is it a runtime thing?
[14:29] <xamithan> Oh,  well then you'd have to add it to grub as target
[14:29] <anddam> like changing old runlevels
[14:31] <tomreyn> anddam: it switches to a different target, similar to old sysv-rc runlevels, yes
[14:39] <anddam> I see
[14:39] <anddam> thanks
[14:41] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: ok, it worked
[14:42] <isomari> greetings, I have telnet running on my server but I can't telnet into it even from itself. I get the error: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:42] <isomari> there are no iptable rules blocking port 23
[14:43] <Harlin> isomari: do you see port 23 open if you do: sudo lsof -i :23
[14:44] <isomari> Harlin: lsof -i :23 return nothing.
[14:44] <Harlin> isomari: if that checks out, you may want to make sure it is bound to a local ip (I've not heard of telnet using UNIX sockets but you never know)
[14:45] <Harlin> isomari: ok, then it sounds like it's not running or remote possibility it's not binding to an ip
[14:45] <Harlin> I'd go with not running :)
[14:45] <cpcat> hi
[14:46] <Harlin> 'ello cpcat
[14:46] <isomari> Harlin: unfortunately, I have no choice. :-((
[14:46] <cpcat> I want to migrate a Mac OSX Server running Open Directory with LDAP on Ubuntu.
[14:46] <Harlin> isomari: no, I'm saying, I think it's not running ;)
[14:47] <Harlin> cpcat: good for you man
[14:47] <isomari> Harlin: I can see it's running with systemctl status inetd
[14:47] <Harlin> isomari: is it running on a non-standard port then?
[14:48] <isomari> I'm assumingthat would only happen by human intervention.
[14:48] <Harlin> isomari: were you trying: telnet localhost  ?
[14:48] <isomari> I tried that also.
[14:48] <Harlin> isomari: you get the same?
[14:48] <isomari> yes
[14:49] <Harlin> isomari: i assume if you ping localhost, you get favorable output? :)
[14:49] <isomari> yes
[14:49] <ioria> isomari, what kind of telnet server did you install ?  (considering that on ubuntu it's not installed by default)
[14:51] <Harlin> i find it strange that lsof doesn't see the port open
[14:52] <ioria> Harlin, he probably installed openbsd-inetd
[14:52] <Harlin> ioria: yeah
[14:52] <Harlin> ioria: since that's inetd, it's going to be an on-demand service iirc
[14:53] <ioria> Harlin, i just remember that it's a mess
[14:53] <Harlin> ioria: i remember they did that with ftp too.
[14:53] <ioria> yeah
[14:53] <Harlin> hmm let me do some googling isomari
[14:54] <isomari> Harlin: thanks
[14:54] <Harlin> isomari: have a look at: https://it.toolbox.com/question/telnet-unable-to-connect-to-remote-host-connection-refused-122607
[14:54] <Harlin> You may have to go into the xinetd configs and make sure it's enabled.
[14:54] <isomari> thanks, I'll check it right now.
[14:54] <Harlin> It sounds like it's not
[14:55] <Harlin> np
[14:55] <Harlin> you're welcome.
[14:55] <Harlin> It's been a while (since 2008ish) since I've fooled around with inetd/xinetd
[14:56] <Harlin> once I discovered ssh, I left that stuff alone but I realize some shops may require telnet for some weird legacy scripts (who knows)
[14:56] <Harlin> at my place of work, we still use ftp -- which I don't care much for but I'm just a worker bee :)
[14:56] <isomari> Harlin: Yes, I haven't touched telnet in donkey years myself. Unfortunately I was aleady on that page. No Help for me there.
[14:56] <Harlin> ah ok
[14:57] <Harlin> isomari: so are you sure you've enabled it in inetd config files?
[14:57] <Harlin> it really sounds like it's just not turned on. Until I could confirm that it *is* running, I would keep assuming that it's not running.
[14:57] <isomari> Harlin: I'm going over everything with a fine tooth comb as we chat?
[14:57] <Harlin> fair enough.
[14:58] <Harlin> Heck, i might even do an nmap on my local server and see if there are any weird ports opened up
[14:59] <Harlin> and then do  ... telnet localhost [weird port]
[14:59] <Harlin> food for thought.
[14:59] <Harlin> ok, and on that note .... coffee for thought :) brb
[15:32] <Pricey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates#Using_the_.22unattended-upgrades.22_package does not work for me... "sudo unattended-upgrades -d" works fine. Looking at
[15:32] <Pricey>                    /var/log/unattended-upgrades I can see that cron is starting it but "o=Ubuntu,a=bionic-updates" is missing from the allowed origins when run from systemd? Why would manual runs be
[15:32] <Pricey>                    different?
[15:33] <woenx> I am using a bluetooth trackpad, but every now and then it loses connectivity for a few seconds. I am trying to find out why, but I don't know where to start
[15:33] <woenx> on the bluetoothctl command i can see when it connects and disconnects
[15:34] <woenx> [CHG] Device [MAC address] Connected: no followed immediately by [CHG] Device [MAC address] Connected: yes
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: /var/log/syslog is a good place to look. Also, make sure the bluetooth devices are decent distance away from things like Microwaves, wifi routers, mobile phones, or other wireless devices.
[15:35] <woenx> I am using three bluetooth devices at the same time, and the only one that disconnects is the trackpad
[15:35] <woenx> (it's an Apple' s Magic Trackpad)
[15:35] <woenx> but yeah, all these devices you mentioned are several meters away, in other rooms
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: For the moment remove/turn off all other bluetooth devices and only use the trackpad. If the issue persists, then you've identified the issue is with the trackpad. If it stops, then one of your other devices are interferring.
[15:37] <OerHeks> 3 devices .. every now and then ..
[15:37] <woenx> I'm seeing some related messages on /var/log/syslog
[15:38] <TJ-> woenx: the most likely issue is that some wifi device on 2.4GHz is causing problems for it; do you also have 2.4GHz 802.11bgn wifi close by (Access Point or stations) ?
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: If you see something in the logs, please paste it (plus about 5 lines above and below) to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:38] <woenx> Ok, One bluetooth keyboard, one bluetooth mouse, and the bluetooth trackpad (which suffers this probleem). Every now and then is every 20-40 minutes.
[15:38] <woenx> Ok
[15:38] <woenx> the disconnection lasts about 5 to 15 seconds
[15:38] <woenx> It comes back automatically, I don't have to do anything
[15:39] <OerHeks> I think the mouse and trackpad blash, while switching..
[15:39] <woenx> btw, is it safe to paste the MAC addresses of bluetooth devices, or should I redact them?
[15:39] <TJ-> woenx: a related issue: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7695222
[15:39] <OerHeks> c/clash
[15:39] <TJ-> woenx: it's safe, as it is for Ethernet devices
[15:39] <woenx> Ok
[15:40] <woenx> This is the error in Syslog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WxK56rz3GW/
[15:40] <woenx> (all previous and next lines are unrelated)
[15:41] <woenx> ignore the indicator-sysmonitor.desktop stuff, it has nothing to do
[15:42] <woenx> (btw, it's an apple trackpad, but the computer is just a regular laptop made by xiaomi, not Apple)
[15:45] <woenx> i could try if the problem is also present in Windows... but that would mean that I would need to use windows for at least 40 minutes!
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: The best way to troubleshoot is to eliminate variables. If the device works without issue in Windows, then you've narrowed it down to a Linux/Ubuntu problem. If the device works without issue without other bluetooth devices active, then you've narrowed the problem to be specific to the trackpad and not something interferring. The process is all about finding ways to elinimate variables that could be potentially causing
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> your problem.
[15:48] <woenx> Yep. That makes sense. This is why I think it's a problem with this device, not my laptop's bluetooth. (because the keyboard and mouse,e ven if they are the cheapest ones in amazon, work fine)
[15:50] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: It could be anything at this point. To some, bluetooth is like the "wild west" ... there are rules, but they're not enforced and not every manufacturer follows them. Apple devices are well known to fall into out-of-compliance category, since Apple only expects their hardware to be connected to other Apple hardware
[15:50] <woenx> Aha
[15:51] <woenx> It's a pity, because the device works quite well in ubuntu out of the box
[15:51] <ioria> for me sounds kike an udevd problem not an apple one
[15:51] <ioria> *like
[15:51] <woenx> and much better than in windows, where I went crazy trying to find third party drivers to enable gestures
[15:53] <woenx> Could it be related to this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1788018
[15:53] <ioria> woenx, yeah, that
[15:53] <woenx> (I do not experience high cpu, but the binding and unbinding happens, and it's related to bluez)
[15:54] <ioria> woenx, try some of the worarounds in there
[15:54] <woenx> I will
[15:56] <woenx> Well, at least it seems i'm not alone
[15:56]  * leni1[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tTQjXKVsLRXuAmNbZoFjNNrV >
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> !paste | leni1[m]
[15:58] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: that's a message not a traceback or anything. Will remember to break my sentences up in future :) Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
[15:59] <woenx> I also find annoying that bluetooth keyboards and mice stop working after a few minutes of inactivity in order to save power, and they take a few seconds to come back to life. Such is life.
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> leni1[m]: Do you have your server setup to listen to only ipv4 addresses?
[16:01] <leni1[m]> It's my local computer so I think by default that's what it should do
[16:01] <leni1[m]> I could be wrong though :P
[16:02] <lawdalasoon> Hi, I'm trying to install some softwares on Ubuntu 18.04 via terminal and the download speeds are painfully slow. Any way I could fix this? Thanks!
[16:02] <leni1[m]> By local, I mean its using Ubuntu client software and I don't run it as a server with a public facing IP address.
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> leni1[m]: Does your "<VirtualHost " definition have an IP address defined or is it "<VirtualHost *:80>"
[16:02] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: the latter
[16:05] <lawdalasoon> I also tried disabling IpV6
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> leni1[m]: Do you have any "require ip" defined in your configes? specifically in the site-enabled directory?
[16:08] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: no I don't.
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> leni1[m]: Is ufw enabled?
[16:09] <leni1[m]> I only have the default.conf file and that doesn't have an ip address config
[16:09] <leni1[m]> I think so. I reinstalled everything afresh and I saw it being enabled as part of setup.
[16:10] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: no it isn't
[16:10] <leni1[m]> just checked using `sudo ufw status` and the response is inactive
[16:11] <pragmaticenigma> leni1[m]: Does the page load if you attemp 127.0.0.1 ?
[16:12] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: nope. Gives me the Unable to Connect page
[16:12] <leni1[m]> Same when I swap that out with localhost.
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> something feels off... but I'm not sure what it is
[16:13] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: your connection in general is ok with other downloads, yes?
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908: I think you highlighted the wrong person
[16:14] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908: Yes.
[16:15] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: Have you tried changing the Ubuntu repository to a mirror closer to you?
[16:15] <leni1[m]> pragmaticenigma: is there a way to reset everything back to the way it was just after installation?
[16:17] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908: I'm not sure how to do that.Can it be done via terminal?
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> not really, you could "sudo apt purge apache2; sudo apt install apache2" which would remove the config files
[16:18] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: Are you on a Desktop? If so, I would actually recommend the GUI ("Software & Updates") in this one case.
[16:19] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: Otherwise, something like this should work: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-select-the-fastest-apt-mirror-on-ubuntu-linux
[16:20] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: E.g. if you're in Asia, you could try a mirror in that region.
[16:20] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: In my experience Ubuntu mirrors have always been very fast (in Europe).
[16:22] <ioria> lawdalasoon, occasionally, also a full cache might slow down things:     sudo apt-get clean
[16:22] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908: I'm on my laptop.Yea I'm in Asia. I'll try updating through GUI.
[16:24] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: Yes, through GUI via "Software & Updates" (at least that's what it used to be called, might be different now) and then selecting a download server in your region. There's an automated test too that supposedly helps find a fast mirror. Not sure how reliable that is.
[16:31] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908:Thanks! I ran that automated test to find the fastest server and have selected it.I'm trying to install texlive-latex-extra but can't seem to find its APT repo link.
[16:33] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: you might have to enable the "universe" repository, you can do that form the same GUI where you selected the apt mirror.
[16:34] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/texlive-latex-extra
[16:38] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908: Yes, the universe repo is checked. Though the Add source button is grayed out when I'm trying to "Add " the repo link.
[16:39] <adrian_1908> lawdalasoon: No idea then, but generally that's how you'd enable it. And then `sudo apt update && sudo apt install texlive-latex-extra`
[16:42] <lawdalasoon> adrian_1908: Although while I plug-in this example link 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic main'' it isn't grayed out.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> woenx: check my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe/+bug/1822770
[16:43] <woenx> lotuspsychje: I am not sure it- s the same thing. It worked out of the box for me, didn't need to install any drivers, and works immediately after I turn it on.
[16:43] <woenx> it's a magic trackpad 1, not the 2, though.
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> woenx: wich ubuntu version/kernel ?
[16:44] <woenx> ubuntu 18.04 x64 4.15.0-50-generic
[16:44] <woenx> with Gnome desktop
[16:45] <woenx> I use the blueman applet to pair and connect my devices, I am not sure if that was the default program for bluetooth management
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> woenx: yeah i also had to install blueman, default bluetooth on gnome wasnt playing well
[16:46] <woenx> yeah. I don't know why, but i had some bluetooth problems months ago with another device, and I installed blueman.
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> woenx: every reboot i also had to click desktop, to make it pair
[16:47] <woenx> You have to pair it everytime?
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> woenx: blueman has an auto pair, but i had to click few mouseclicks to make it recognize
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> every boot
[16:47] <woenx> aha, that's weird
[16:48] <woenx> do you dual boot with windows?
[16:48] <woenx> I had to edit some files so both OS use the same keys
[16:48] <woenx> otherwise i had to pair them manually everytime I switched OS
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> woenx: no was a single bionic on an imac 2011
[16:48] <woenx> lotuspsychje: do you have the samee problem with other bluetooth devices?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> woenx: it was on a customers imac, so i didnt test other BT devices, just the apple2 mouse
[16:49] <woenx> oh, ok ok
[17:30] <EriC^^> !ping
[18:27] <goddard> how do i install this?
[18:27] <goddard> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/pyside2
[18:30] <sarnold> goddard: apt-get install pyside2-tools looks like a good starting point
[18:30] <goddard> not seeing that package
[18:30] <goddard> im on 18.04
[18:30] <goddard> sorry should of said that
[18:31] <OerHeks> then no, do not mix versions..
[18:32] <goddard> OerHeks: you think it would be safe to install it with pip then?
[18:32] <goddard> pip3 install --user PyQt5
[18:32] <goddard> need it for Qt
[18:33] <goddard> dont wanna mess up my system
[18:36] <OerHeks> not sure about that, if that uses python3
[18:45] <Oderus> is kubuntu an unofficial derivative?
[18:46] <lordcirth_> Oderus, no, it's official
[18:47] <sarnold> this suggests it's fully official https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
[18:49] <Oderus> lordcirth_: sarnold: thank you
[18:49] <Oderus> I keep having kglobalaccel5 crash every time i log in to kubuntu.
[18:54] <the2048> well unattended-upgr seems to cause issues
[18:54] <the2048> might have to write a script to do sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade
[18:54] <xamithan> What issues
[18:55] <the2048> on GMA hardware (i915) and 16.04.2 (for me) unattended-upgr causes the GMA to throw a fit and display visual puke on the internal LCD of my laptop
[18:56] <xamithan> Is that when it dkms a new video driver
[18:56] <the2048> I don't know, haven't tested. however the system does lock up when this happens
[18:56] <the2048> no ping response, ssh doesn't work
[18:57] <the2048> I'll upgrade to 18.04 because that's more stable for older hardware, it seems
[18:59] <sarnold> the2048: it doesn't matter how you get the updates whether they are installed by unattended-upgrades or installed by hand. if there's bugs then there's bugs.
[19:01] <the2048> sarnold it's only happened with unattended-upgrades for some reason, not apt
[19:02] <the2048> especially on 16.04
[19:02] <xamithan> Are you using livepatch too
[19:02] <the2048> doubt it, I'll check.
[19:02] <xamithan> If not,  you just haven't ran into the package when you were using apt by hand
[19:02] <the2048> where would that be in settings? haven't looked around for livepatch on my systems really
[19:03] <xamithan> Don't remember,  if you df and there is lots of small mounts it's probably enabled
[19:04] <the2048> only  7 mounts
[19:04] <the2048> udev, tmpfs, /dev/sda1, and 4 more tmpfs
[19:05] <xamithan> It's not then,  it would say /snap/canoical-livepatch etc.
[19:05] <the2048> which version was livepatch introduced in?
[19:07] <ioria> !livepatch
[19:07] <sarnold> livepatch was supported in 14.04 LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features/Historical
[19:08] <the2048> that'll do it, I'm running x86
[19:08] <ioria> the2048, what's the problem exactly with unattended-upgrades ?
[19:09] <xamithan> Apparently their system locks up
[19:09] <ioria> ah
[19:09] <the2048> displays visual puke
[19:09] <ioria> the2048, can you define ' visual puke' ?
[19:10] <the2048> I have a photo on my Google Drive, just have to sign in
[19:10] <ioria> ok
[19:12] <the2048> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-M3yP68CC8K1NZVLNOCsZLDvvmB0rpIC
[19:12] <the2048> this was last night
[19:12] <the2048> was worse today, but it hasn't happened
[19:12] <the2048> it's gotten way further than it would with unattended-upgrades
[19:14] <ioria> the2048, i'd say it's a graphic issue ... why do you think it's related to unattended-upgrades ?
[19:15] <the2048> it's only happened when I run unattended-upgrades. running anything else doesn't cause the issue.
[19:15] <the2048> maybe it's just one of those issues that you can't explain
[19:15] <ioria> the2048, i doubt the culprit is unattended-upgrade (unless you have modified  /e/a/a.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades  )
[19:16] <the2048> I haven't modified that file to my knowledge
[19:16] <lordcirth_> the2048, doing apt updates / upgrades normally doesn't cause it?
[19:16] <the2048> it doesn't do it
[19:16] <Edu4rdSHL> Hello, quick question, what's the username of tor service in ubuntu?
[19:16] <ioria> the2048, can you paste     lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D'
[19:17] <the2048> can do
[19:17] <Edu4rdSHL> In ArchLinux it's tor, in Debian it's debian-tor.
[19:17] <Edu4rdSHL> Ubuntu use the same user than debian?
[19:18] <the2048> it gave me a fair bit of info. I'll paste it line by line
[19:18] <ioria> Edu4rdSHL, how did you install it ? from snap ?
[19:18] <the2048> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:18] <lordcirth_> the2048, please don't
[19:18] <lordcirth_> the2048, use a pastebin
[19:18] <the2048> will do, that was my original idea
[19:18] <ioria> the2048,    lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D'   | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:19] <the2048> that'll work, forgot what the command was to automatically put something on a pastebin
[19:19] <Edu4rdSHL> ioria, I don't use ubuntu but I've a software that need to know the UID of thr tor user, then I can get it via `id -u $tor_user`, only need to know what's the name assigned when installed from normal repo
[19:19] <the2048> https://termbin.com/4zi2
[19:19] <the2048> there we go
[19:19] <Edu4rdSHL> s/thr/tor
[19:22] <ioria> the2048,   what's your kernel ?  uname -r
[19:22] <the2048> 4.15.0-33-generic
[19:23] <ioria> the2048,   it's an old kernel... what if you run   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:23] <lordcirth_> Edu4rdSHL, I just installed from torbrowser-launcher. It's debian-tor
[19:23] <Edu4rdSHL> lordcirth_, thank you!
[19:24] <the2048> ioria, will do after dist-upgrade finishes. did apt update literally 5 minutes ago lol
[19:25] <ioria> the2048,  ok (it would not be needed then)
[19:26] <the2048> this is taking a while, unpacking all the dist-upgrade stuff might go in to the night. at least I know the laptop isn't going to crash lol
[19:26] <the2048> it's gone way farther than unattended-upgrades EVER did
[19:26] <sarnold> unatteneded-upgrades should only do security updates
[19:26] <sarnold> so doing updates by hand would also get plain bug fixes too
[19:27] <the2048> yeah that would get them too
[19:27] <sarnold> (of course you can configure unattended-upgrades to also get plain updates)
[19:27] <Steven_> hello everyone, does anyone have any experience modifying the ubuntu installer to prompt a user to decrypt a file with passwords and other settings to be used for the installation?
[19:27] <the2048> I think it tries to get regular updates too
[19:27] <the2048> it was like that out of the box
[19:27] <sarnold> iirc it'll download but not install the regular updates
[19:28] <the2048> yeah that might be it
[19:28] <the2048> right now my laptop's chugging real hard, it's unpacking libreoffice-common
[19:29] <sarnold> heh that's a big one :)
[19:29] <the2048> big enough to max out the CPU for sure, but it isn't big enough to max out my phone if it ran ubuntu
[19:30] <the2048> good old snapdragon 435, the hottest charging CPU in the race (we'll exclude the snapdragon 801, that thing gets hot enough at idle to kill itself)
[19:36] <blackandblue> I hate ubuntu dist-upgrades
[19:36] <blackandblue> it breaks system
[19:36] <blackandblue> 18.04 didnt have gobuster package. upgraded to 19.04 and it broke
[19:37] <lordcirth__> blackandblue, that's a release-upgrade, not a distupgrade
[19:37] <lordcirth__> blackandblue, what exactly broke?
[19:43] <the2048> well we got to the end of the dist-upgrade, ioria. time to do full-upgrade
[19:43] <ioria> the2048,  it will give '0'
[19:43] <the2048> just waiting on the setup of the packages to end. worth a try even if it returns 0
[19:44] <the2048> wait what
[19:44] <the2048> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
[19:45] <ioria> the2048,  usually it's not fatal
[19:45] <the2048> haven't even finished the dist-upgrade, however it should continue
[19:45] <sarnold> still running?? cripes how many packages is it grabbing?
[19:45] <blackandblue> lordcirth__: it wouldnt boot. grub broke etc.
[19:45] <the2048> setting up packages
[19:45] <blackandblue> I wish ubuntu would be painless to not only use but to upgrade as well
[19:46] <lordcirth__> blackandblue, it usually is. BIOS or EFI? What partitioning scheme?
[19:46] <the2048> wow it's trying to get flash player
[19:46] <blackandblue> lordcirth__: BIOS
[19:48] <the2048> why the hell is my PC trying to get flash player
[19:48] <the2048> it's the plugin but still
[19:48] <ioria> the2048,  'cause you have it installed
[19:49] <the2048> didn't know that it was installed
[19:49] <ioria> the2048,  *already
[19:49] <the2048> whatever, shouldn't remove it because if I do something might break
[19:49] <the2048> safe to say I won't need it because HTML5 is literally the most common way of things now, but
[19:50] <OerHeks> indeed, the dvd package is more important than flash
[19:50] <sarnold> dvd?
[19:51] <untakenstupidnic> does the package vim for you?
[19:51] <OerHeks> libdvd-pkg
[19:51] <untakenstupidnic> does the package vim work for y'all?
[19:52] <EriC^^> untakenstupidnic: what's the problem?
[19:52] <untakenstupidnic> no executable.
[19:52] <the2048> myname_@myname-Satellite-A100:~$ vim
[19:52] <the2048> The program 'vim' can be found in the following packages:
[19:52] <the2048> vim isn't installed for me
[19:52] <sarnold> these are the vim packages I've got installed vim vim-common vim-doc vim-runtime vim-tiny
[19:52] <sarnold> works great
[19:52] <OerHeks> 'vi' in Ubuntu already starts 'vim'
[19:53] <lordcirth__> but iirc 'vim' doesn't work until you install vim-common?
[19:53] <timClicks> the2048: what does this command say? apt list | grep ^flash | grep installed
[19:53] <OerHeks> something like that, indeed lordcirth__
[19:54] <EriC^^> untakenstupidnic: the executable should be /usr/bin/vim.basic
[19:55] <EriC^^> untakenstupidnic: for me /usr/bin/vim has a bunch of symlinks ending up at /usr/bin/vim.basic
[19:55] <OerHeks> oh, i thought vim-tiny makes 'vi' work
[19:55] <sarnold> there's a handful of vim packages, depending upon which features you want enabled
[19:56] <the2048> flashplugin-installer/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 32.0.0.192ubuntu0.16.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
[19:56] <lordcirth__> blackandblue, so in what way did grub break? dropped to rescue shell?
[19:56] <EriC^^> OerHeks: yeah i mean vim not vi
[19:56] <the2048> vim is literally terrifying for me
[19:56] <OerHeks> nano, gedit, you have choice
[19:56] <the2048> given that vim-tiny is installed on my system
[19:57] <lordcirth__> the2048, 'vimtutor'. Or just use nano, it's fine.
[19:57] <the2048> yeah nano is what I usually use, just launched vim out of the blue because boredom
[19:58] <EriC^^> OerHeks: oh actually vi also ends up at /usr/bin/vim.basic for me
[20:54] <onizu> hi
[20:54] <onizu> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/install-and-configure-samba#3
[20:54] <onizu> I followed this tutorial
[20:54] <onizu> but I can't connect to the shared samba folder in my LAN from either Mac or Windows
[21:00] <akem> onizu, you can try to add a share by using a command like this one: net usershare add -l MyShare /home/onizu your_comment Everyone:R guest_ok=y
[21:01] <akem> Then refresh on your mac or windows and check if you can access MyShare/ .
[21:01] <gp5st> hello. where would I look to find a soundcard where I could reassign which of the tip, rings, or sleeve do?
[21:01] <onizu> akem: I added it in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:02] <akem> onizu, then check manually from command line, there is maybe an issue with the config file.
[21:02] <onizu> akem: check what?
[21:02] <akem> onizu, that your smb share is working.
[21:03] <onizu> akem: how to check?
[21:03] <onizu> akem: I also added the user as sudo smbpasswd -a onizu
[21:05] <akem> onizu, do you see the shares when you type: "net usershare list" in your terminal?
[21:05] <onizu> akem: no
[21:05] <akem> Then that's the problem.
[21:06] <akem> Try to add one share manually from the terminal, and see if it works from your windows or mac.
[21:07] <akem> like "net usershare add -l MyShare /home/onizu your_comment Everyone:R guest_ok=y" (if your home is /home/onizu)
[21:07] <akem> then try to list again.
[21:07] <onizu> what is Everyone:R ?
[21:07] <akem> onizu, it won't ask for a password.
[21:07] <onizu> should I remove the entry from the /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[21:07] <akem> onizu, everyone read, just for testing.
[21:08] <akem> onizu, no just ignore smb.conf for now.
[21:08] <onizu> ok
[21:08] <akem> Then try again "net usershare list", it should display "MyShare".
[21:09] <akem> Then look on Windows if you can access it.
[21:09] <onizu> what's MyShare? the shared directory in /home/onizu ?
[21:09] <akem> onizu, the name of the share that you will see on windows, it points to /home/onizu, so you should see the content of your home directory.
[21:10] <akem> You can change it to whatever you want, but /home/onizu must be valid, or change it to another directory if you prefer, it is just for testing.
[21:10] <onizu> ok so this name can be different than the name of the actual directory shared
[21:10] <akem> Yes.
[21:11] <onizu> ok
[21:12] <onizu> akem: and the directory to be shared is /home/onizu ?
[21:12] <akem> onizu, yes.
[21:13] <onizu> ok
[21:14] <courrier> How do you copy as exactly as possible all partitions of a disk at once when dd fails because of a few missing Bytes on the target drive?
[21:14] <onizu> akem: your_comment can be a text? within quotes?
[21:15] <akem> onizu, it should but i'm not sure, just don't touch that.
[21:16] <akem> It should work as long as the pointed directory is accessible, and will create a read only share visible to everyone on the local net.
[21:16] <EriC^^> courrier: how many bytes and what partition table type
[21:17] <onizu> it's not working
[21:17] <onizu> the command
[21:17] <akem> onizu, do you have any errors?
[21:19] <onizu> net usershare add: malformed acl quest_ok=y (missing ':').
[21:20] <akem> onizu, ok there is an issue with the syntax, paste me the command you typed.
[21:20] <onizu> net usershare add -l onizu-local /home/onizu/shared Everyone:R quest_ok=y
[21:20] <onizu> the <comment> is optional
[21:20] <onizu> I saw in the man
[21:20] <akem> it's guest, not quest
[21:20] <onizu> page
[21:21] <onizu> oh god :/
[21:21] <onizu> ok, still the same error
[21:21] <onizu> net usershare add: malformed acl guest_ok=y (missing ':').
[21:22] <akem> try onizulocal instead of onizu-local maybe?
[21:22] <akem> without the -
[21:22] <onizu> ok
[21:22] <akem> Because otherwise i don't see why this error :/
[21:22] <onizu> same error
[21:26] <crimson_king> When lspci returns "Kernel driver in use: amdgpu", is it the proprietary AMDGPU-PRO or the free AMDGPU? I'm expecting AMDGPU-PRO to be in use. How do I make sure it is?
[21:26] <crimson_king> (I installed AMDGPU-PRO)
[21:27] <akem> onizu, add the 'your_comment' it's mandatory
[21:27] <akem> onizu, i have the same error without it.
[21:27] <onizu> " <comment> is the optional comment for the new share."
[21:28] <onizu> ok let me try
[21:28] <akem> net usershare add -l onizulocal /home/onizu/shared your_comment Everyone:R guest_ok=y
[21:28] <akem> It works here.
[21:28] <courrier> EriC^^ 16088301568B to be copied to a 15931539456B disk, as for the table type, how can I guess from my .img file?
[21:28] <onizu> oh, worked now
[21:28] <onizu> damn.. what a misguiding info on the command in ubuntu
[21:29] <akem> yeah now try: net usershare list
[21:29] <onizu> net usershare add [-l|--long] <sharename> <path> [<comment>] [<acl>] [<guest_ok=[y|n]>]
[21:29] <akem> It should list it.
[21:29] <onizu> everything in square-brackets is optional
[21:29] <onizu> ok trying
[21:29] <akem> Yeah there is a problem with the man page probably.
[21:29] <onizu> yeah now it shows
[21:30] <akem> onizu, cool now try to access it from your windows.
[21:30] <akem> Be sure to put some files in shared/ so you see them
[21:30] <akem> It's read only btw from the outside.
[21:31] <EriC^^> courrier: you'll have to shrink the partitions, then make a new partition table manually on the output disk and copy the partitions individually, that's the easiest optio
[21:31] <EriC^^> by shrink the partitions i really mean shrink the filesystems, then the partitions
[21:32] <onizu> yea it shows
[21:33] <onizu> how do I make it password protected?
[21:33] <akem> onizu, great so your samba is working, btw you can remove a share with: net usershare delete name_of_share
[21:33] <onizu> ok
[21:34] <akem> onizu, just change "Everyone" to your nickname
[21:34] <onizu> ok
[21:36] <akem> onizu, now i don't know why the config file is not creating them for you...maybe some syntax issue. But you still have the CLI way as workaround for now. Personnaly i just use a script with my samba shares.
[21:36] <onizu> I figured out .. I made a mistake in the conf file
[21:40] <courrier> EriC^^ Can I copy a single partition with dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 even if sdb1 does not exist? Or should I create sdb1 somehow first?
[21:41] <EriC^^> courrier: you have to create sdb1 first using gdisk/fdisk
[21:42] <courrier> Ah :( That was the big advantage of copying everthing, you make a full identical copy in a single commande line. Maybe too much identical though
[21:42] <EriC^^> (if the disks are both in good shape i'd use a higher block size for dd so the transfer is quicker)
[21:43] <EriC^^> courrier: it's really easy to create the partition, technically you dont really need to create it, you could just use of=/dev/sdb but you run the risk of some OS thinking it's empty and creating a fresh partition table on it etc
[21:45] <courrier> EriC^^: "you could just use of=/dev/sdb" ;... but that wouldn't work if there are severla partitions, right?
[21:45] <EriC^^> courrier: correct
[21:45] <EriC^^> that's just if it's the only data you want on the disk and nothing else
[21:47] <EriC^^> i'd just get the partitions/partition table etc in order and transfer
[21:48] <onizu> akem:
[21:48] <courrier> In a general way, if a disk is supposed to be duplicated several times on several others with different models of close size, is it a good idea to shrink the partition of about 1GB, make the copy with dd and ignore the "No space left on device" warning, because the data that can't be copied will be void anyway?
[21:48] <EriC^^> courrier: what's it look right now? pastebin "sudo parted /dev/sdb print"
[21:49] <onizu> now I fixed the entry in the conf file , and it shows now in the network. But net usershare list does not show anything
[21:50] <EriC^^> courrier: well, if you do that you wont have the backup headers for gpt in case you ever need them
[21:50] <EriC^^> i dont remember if mbr stores backup information at the end of the disk, it could i guess
[21:50] <courrier> http://paste.debian.net/1085911/ EriC^^
[21:50] <akem> onizu, that's good if it shows on the network, but i have no idea why it would shows in the usershare list :/
[21:51] <EriC^^> courrier: if you save the partition table somewhere safe, you could work around that i guess
[21:51] <akem> not
[21:52] <onizu> :/
[21:52] <courrier> EriC^^: I see. There are backups in the middle of the disk as well, aren't they?
[21:52] <EriC^^> nope i dont think so courrier
[21:52] <onizu> this is the correct command: net usershare list ?
[21:52] <EriC^^> courrier: i think you're thinking of the backup sectors of the filesystem
[21:53] <EriC^^> such as 32768 etc for ext4
[21:53] <akem> onizu, yes but maybe it does not display the ones created via the config file for some reason, or there is maybe an option to specify i can't tell.
[21:54] <EriC^^> courrier: i mean the backup superblocks
[21:54] <onizu> ok
[21:55] <EriC^^> courrier: if it's not that huge, just 16gb, you could make the img as a file, and mount it and work on it as you wish, then dd it over perfectly fit for the sdb
[21:56] <EriC^^> you'd copy a perfectly fit for 16gb disk image with proper partition table size and everything included
[21:57] <courrier> EriC^^: Do you mean I would modify my .img so that it's a bit smaller in size with no missing backup?
[21:58] <EriC^^> courrier: yeah, dd to an .img, then use fdisk/gdisk to recreate the partition table with the same starting sectors for the partitions
[22:03] <EriC^^> courrier: it really depends if you want the backup and the partition table giving the right sizes when you do 'parted -l' or whatever plus potentially, maybe, some programs whining about how there's a mismatch between partition table info and actual disk size
[22:04] <jwash> hi everyone. I have a pc which was locking up every 30-45 min on Ubuntu 18.04 x64. I reseated the ram this morning and under test it ran for 5 hours flawlessly. I looked at the logs and dmesg after it was running but didn't see anything abnormal. It's been about 3 months since the last use. I'm hesitant to put it back for general use, what do you think?
[22:04] <EriC^^> pretty sure they'd whine a little
[22:06] <OerHeks> jwash, run a memtest86 test, 24 hrs, and go
[22:09] <jwash> OerHeks, good idea, TY
[22:10] <onizu> akem: I'm not able to write to that directory from the network
[22:11] <akem> onizu, if you let the R in Everyone:R it means read only, you need to change it to RW, but if it's from the config file i don't know.
[22:12] <onizu> akem: ok
[22:13] <onizu> akem: when we add a new share using net command, the smbd doesn't neet to be restarted?
[22:13] <akem> onizu, no you can add and remove them on the fly from the CLI.
[22:14] <onizu> akem: ok
[22:27] <onizu> akem: net usershare add -l onizuLocal /home/onizu/shared comment onizu:RW guest_ok=n  --- is not working. "net usershare add: malformed terminating character for acl onizu:RW  "
[22:29] <akem> onizu, try F instead of RW, F for full i think.
[22:31] <onizu> akem: yeah, that worked
[22:32] <onizu> akem: what is the -l for?
[22:32] <hggdh> AFAICR the permissions should be R (only read, no write), or D (deny), or F (full). You can also 'man net', and search for 'usershare add'
[22:35] <Oderus> hi all. everytime i log in, kglobalaccel5 crashes. i want to submit a crash report or bug report, but the option to report is greyed out. I have tried to remove my global shortcuts that I have made, and this does not work, it tells me I can't remove an active shortcut even if i have set the key combo to none. I am at a loss. I want to use global shortcuts, but it consistently crashes every single login
[22:36] <akem> onizu, -l is maybe not necessary it was just specified in my script when i looked at it.
[22:36] <onizu> ok
[22:39] <akem> onizu, -l directly prints information of the share.
[22:40] <onizu> akem: ok
[22:41] <onizu> akem: btw, after adding a usershare via that command, is there a way to list it with details? (net usershare list only lists the name)
[22:42] <akem> onizu, You can try: net usershare info
[22:42] <akem> Maybe with the name of the share in the end not sure.
[22:42] <onizu> akem: yes, thanks.
[22:43] <onizu> do you know how to create a file with some content in it, on the fly? I know 'touch filename' creates it, but if I want to add some text to it too?
[22:43] <onizu> in the same command
[22:44] <akem> onizu, echo something > filename.txt
[22:44] <jack> echo > yourfile "bla"
[22:45] <onizu> does that file need to exist beforehand?
[22:45] <dax> no
[22:45] <jack> nope
[22:45] <akem> No it will create it.
[22:45] <onizu> ok
[22:45] <akem> and if you use 2 >> it will append to the file.
[23:13] <sarnold> Oderus: ubuntu-bug kglobalaccel ought to help you file a bug report
[23:13] <seven-eleven> hi
[23:13] <seven-eleven> i have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1766377
[23:14] <Oderus> sarnold:  just google that or?
[23:14] <sarnold> Oderus: run that in a terminal
[23:15] <seven-eleven> the solution for the bug is to disable TSO with ethtool. my system runs VMs, now I wonder should I disable TSO just for the hypervisor or for all guests too?
[23:16] <sarnold> seven-eleven: my guess is that disabling it on the hypervisor should be enough *unless* you're using sr-iov
[23:17] <Oderus> sarnold: ty
[23:17] <seven-eleven> sarnold, nope, simply using bridges
[23:17] <sarnold> seven-eleven: cool; so, that's just a guess, but it sure seems likely
[23:18] <seven-eleven> mhm
[23:18] <seven-eleven> well i think i'm not breaking anything by disabling it on the guests
[23:18] <seven-eleven> i have just 2 guests, so I'll add it just to be save? :-)
[23:19] <sarnold> sure, I can't imagine that'd cause problems
[23:21] <Younder> Guest accounts should be disabled in my book, it is just a back door for hackers
[23:21] <seven-eleven> Younder, guests to hypervisor, that is vms
[23:22] <Younder> If you must allow this sor of thing it should be on a separate virtual machine.
[23:22] <Younder> seven-eleven, yes, my point
[23:22] <JoeLlama> okay I have an issue that is pissing me off big time...  I used complex passwords that are hard to type in manually.  When I go to some websites I cannot copy/paste passwords when I log in.  I know there must be a simple fix or program to use.  Anyone?
[23:22] <seven-eleven> Younder, https://www.techopedia.com/definition/26629/guest-virtual-machine-guest-vm
[23:23] <JoeLlama> they block copy/paste on some websites :(
[23:23] <xdunal3306_> have you tried a password manager?  I use TrueKey and it autofills for me
[23:23] <hggdh> JoeLlama: some sites have been programmed to block copy & paste of passwords In Name Of Security. Sigh.
[23:23] <sarnold> JoeLlama: strongly recommend complaining to those sites and include as many references to password managers from luminaries as you can find
[23:23] <JoeLlama> yes hggdh they do...  there must be a way to defeat that
[23:24] <xdunal3306_> stores the passwords within a secure environment and its the click of one button to load the site and enter your credentials
[23:24] <JoeLlama> I do sarnold
[23:24] <hggdh> JoeLlama: the only way is for the page to be changed. Apart from that...
[23:25] <JoeLlama> hrm o k well...  I'll just stay pissed off for the momeny until I can do some research
[23:25] <JoeLlama> well hggdh if I used a keyboard emulator that will fix the problem
[23:25] <sarnold> you might be able to configure noscript to block the specific script
[23:25] <JoeLlama> but I don
[23:25] <JoeLlama> I don't have a keyboard emulator... anyone know of a solution to emulate the kb?
[23:26] <Younder> There is a firm in San Francisco working on a universal access to the net which is secure and does not require passwords.
[23:28] <JoeLlama> squirrel Younder?
[23:28] <JoeLlama> steve gibson?
[23:28] <JoeLlama> ok I wander off now... thanks :)