| Keres | hi | 00:28 |
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| Keres | i am trying to generate a MIDI arpegiator... keyword GENERATE. that means, no midi input. all the arpgeiators that i have tried require a midi input device with someone playing notes. | 00:29 |
| Keres | it looks like alsa modular synth is what i need | 00:29 |
| Keres | this PD thing doesn't work out of the box and crashes | 00:29 |
| Keres | tried to compile alsa modular... first it tels me that i dont have asound | 00:30 |
| Keres | then it tells me that i don't have jack. | 00:30 |
| Keres | what is going on? seems like this app should be included in this distro. | 00:30 |
| OvenWerks | which app? | 00:31 |
| Keres | alsa modular studio | 00:31 |
| OvenWerks | It appears not. | 00:31 |
| OvenWerks | Not everything that is an audio or video or graphics app is included.... there does try to be one of everything though | 00:32 |
| Keres | why does it say i dont; have jack installed? | 00:33 |
| OvenWerks | just as an example, if drumgismo came with drum kits the iso size would double. | 00:33 |
| Keres | clearly i am using jack | 00:33 |
| OvenWerks | that is a good question. it may be that the depends is for jackd1 rather than jackd2 | 00:33 |
| Keres | is there a forum that deals with this issue? | 00:33 |
| Keres | is there a distro specific package for alsa modular? | 00:34 |
| OvenWerks | what is the package name? | 00:34 |
| Keres | alsa modular synthesizer | 00:34 |
| OvenWerks | oh, are you trying to build it? | 00:34 |
| Keres | is there any other way? | 00:34 |
| OvenWerks | the package you are probably looking for is libjack-jackd2-dev | 00:35 |
| OvenWerks | when building packages on debian based distros, you generally need the packages for the lib that is libname-dev for building | 00:36 |
| OvenWerks | I was pushing to have libjack-jackd2-dev included in the distro, I thought it made it.I guess not | 00:37 |
| OvenWerks | too many people install libjack-dev which uninstalls half the audio packages :( | 00:37 |
| Keres | so now it is this: configure: error: clalsadrv is required | 00:38 |
| Keres | what is that? | 00:38 |
| Keres | same problem? | 00:38 |
| OvenWerks | That one does n't seem to be there at all | 00:39 |
| OvenWerks | (that I can find) | 00:39 |
| OvenWerks | BTW, I personally do not trust the software application and always install synaptic instead | 00:40 |
| Keres | im using apt-get install whatever you say | 00:40 |
| Keres | i got past the jack2-dev thing | 00:41 |
| OvenWerks | atp-get is great | 00:41 |
| OvenWerks | libclalsa-dev | 00:41 |
| Keres | Unable to locate package libclalsa-dev | 00:42 |
| Keres | that one is not in my lists | 00:42 |
| OvenWerks | sorry libclalsadrv-dev | 00:42 |
| OvenWerks | that is the lib for clalsadrv | 00:42 |
| OvenWerks | it will probably install libclalsadrv2 as well | 00:43 |
| Keres | hopefully this is all it needs. | 00:43 |
| Keres | i have desperately needed a replacement for my windows softsynth for years | 00:43 |
| OvenWerks | This is why I use synaptic, it has a nice search. | 00:43 |
| Keres | it works under wine, spare MIDI | 00:43 |
| OvenWerks | I am not the person to ask about synths... I am more guitar/bass/mandolyn based rather than kb | 00:44 |
| Keres | checking for Qt4... no configure: error: cannot find Qt4 library >= 4.2 | 00:44 |
| OvenWerks | You may wish to ask what are good linux soft synths in #ardour | 00:45 |
| Keres | well i am the guy who has to record you so, i need good tools | 00:45 |
| OvenWerks | It is oof topic, but there are a number of people who do all electronic music too. | 00:45 |
| Keres | i do both | 00:45 |
| Keres | i have old tape machines | 00:45 |
| OvenWerks | I play a little kb.... I have an old DX7, but I am far from being a synth conisour | 00:46 |
| Keres | what is QT4? | 00:46 |
| OvenWerks | QT4, is old. let me check | 00:47 |
| Keres | i have been able to use ardor in realtime to process sounds with custom plugins in sunvox | 00:47 |
| Keres | ardor is pretty nice | 00:47 |
| Keres | my next task is to see if i can record multitrack with it using some behringer gear | 00:48 |
| OvenWerks | libqt4-dev | 00:48 |
| Keres | i just shelved an old Alesis XD32 | 00:48 |
| Keres | when you record mandolyn, do you use a mic or do you have a pickup installed? | 00:50 |
| OvenWerks | I have both. I use the PU live, but I would like to try a ribon mic for recording... if I get that far | 00:50 |
| Keres | yeah mics are great with the right pre-amp | 00:51 |
| Keres | its all subjective tho | 00:51 |
| Keres | you can get great sounds from really cheap gear | 00:51 |
| Keres | or medi-ochre sounds from expensive stuff | 00:52 |
| OvenWerks | My condencer mic is cheap, but sounds tinny to me. It is small diaphram. The ribon doesn't have the same high end but sounds more natural to me. | 00:52 |
| OvenWerks | The manolyn pu actually sounds pretty good (for a stick on), but the preamp is key for that. | 00:54 |
| Keres | well make gave me errors: | 00:56 |
| Keres | _vocoder.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void M_vocoder::generateCycle()’: m_vocoder.cpp:298:52: error: incompatible types in assignment of ‘float’ to ‘fftw_complex’ {aka ‘double [2]’} | 00:56 |
| OvenWerks | That is probably a c++99 to c++11 error | 00:56 |
| OvenWerks | you can try using a cast | 00:57 |
| Keres | will it crash the whole app or just that module? | 00:57 |
| Keres | because i dont need a vocoder right now | 00:57 |
| Keres | it would be cool to have one | 00:57 |
| OvenWerks | I don't know in that case... if the build wants to build it all that would be a problem | 00:58 |
| OvenWerks | yeah they are nice to have | 00:58 |
| Keres | why o why. | 00:58 |
| OvenWerks | For example a build all. | 00:59 |
| OvenWerks | not knowing the sw at all, I can't tell. | 00:59 |
| Keres | it wont make install | 00:59 |
| Keres | ok, so this app is off the list. | 00:59 |
| OvenWerks | There may be a compiler or configure opyion that would fix it too. | 01:00 |
| Thr0r | OvenWerks: & Keres: Hi. I'm going to rip off all my old CD's and store them on my computer. I was told to use Asunder to get the music and I am using Parole to play it. Is that a good choice of tools or is it just the same what one use to create a library of ones old music? Talking about quality in both end - the copying and playback. What do you use? You seem to have some knowledge when it comes to sound and quality.. I have Ubunt | 01:14 |
| Thr0r | u studio 19.04 on the pc I'm using for that work. | 01:14 |
| OvenWerks | both are as good as the underlying codec | 01:15 |
| OvenWerks | Are you saving them as flac? | 01:15 |
| Thr0r | No - Wav uncompressed.. | 01:17 |
| OvenWerks | that is as good as you will get for quality. | 01:17 |
| OvenWerks | flac should be the same in less space, but I don't know if flac has metadata | 01:17 |
| OvenWerks | ogg is lossy, but better than mp4 quality wise | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | ogg does have meta data for sure | 01:18 |
| OerHeks | tons of compression settings in asunder | 01:19 |
| Thr0r | Ok - I don't know either - just want to make sure it's the best quality. Want it to last "into the unknown future".. | 01:19 |
| OerHeks | just test 3 songs in different settings | 01:19 |
| OvenWerks | a wav is the same, bit for nit as what the CD has on it. | 01:20 |
| Thr0r | ok. And the tools I'm using is also ok? Asunder and Parole? | 01:21 |
| OerHeks | asunder .. never tried something else, actually | 01:22 |
| Thr0r | ok | 01:22 |
| OvenWerks | seems ok, I would tend to use audacious for playback, but parol has never been a problem for me either | 01:22 |
| Thr0r | ok thanks | 01:23 |
| OvenWerks | parol is a video player, audacious is audio only and may have more options. | 01:23 |
| OerHeks | mpv and clementine, are my players. | 01:23 |
| OerHeks | there are differences in players, i selected on fast handling large collections | 01:24 |
| Thr0r | Ok - I have taken notes of this advice and I will check them out. | 01:25 |
| * OvenWerks doesn't a large collection :) | 01:26 | |
| OerHeks | 150k songs, maybe not that large .. | 01:26 |
| studiobot | graziano_palamara was removed by: graziano_palamara | 01:26 |
| OerHeks | and in those music folders hidden a ton of music clips .. | 01:27 |
| Keres | is there anyone here who is good with PD?? | 01:35 |
| OvenWerks | probably not. | 01:36 |
| Thr0r | It's really cool to go thru the old cd collection :) Lots of memories, and I even find CD's that my (now adult) children burned when they was small... | 01:36 |
| OvenWerks | you may find a better responce on the LAU mailing list. | 01:36 |
| Thr0r | And don't hit me with that Off Topic - I know it was | 01:38 |
| Keres | yeah if you want to back up your CD's you use .wav | 01:56 |
| Keres | .flac is pretty good tho... if i were just backing up some CD's from the 1990s i would just use that. | 01:57 |
| Keres | ogg format is the best tho for portability | 01:57 |
| Keres | ogg is incredible | 01:57 |
| Keres | but ogg, you will notice the sound quality difference. | 01:58 |
| Keres | ogg is more for like... programmers to put into game soundtracks | 01:58 |
| Thr0r | Ok - I saw the .ogg files where really really small so something must be lost I figure.. | 01:59 |
| Keres | as far as players for ubuntu studio, i am using mvp | 02:00 |
| Keres | vlc crashed on install here | 02:00 |
| Keres | think it might work now, but not willing to crash other sound apps to test it. | 02:00 |
| Keres | as far as rippers go... i havent used one in a while but an app called SoundJuicer comes to ming | 02:01 |
| Keres | mind | 02:01 |
| Thr0r | I checked out Audacious as player - it has a lot of settings i have to check out but so far I think Parole plays the songs best. On my system anyways. I'm using a samsung monitor with the sound there (it's no good) but I hear difference. Dire Straits/Love over Gold/ and the song Telegraph Road is a good song to test a thing or to with sound, especially the first minutes.. | 02:39 |
| Keres | no, i havent seen audacious | 02:43 |
| Keres | the only thing i have done with media on here is firefox with tv.youtube.com into a live dsp effect | 02:44 |
| Keres | and catching up on the HBO Chernobyl | 02:44 |
| Keres | which... Parole failed in seeking back to where it crashed at so i installed mvp player | 02:44 |
| Keres | but the ability to remix audio from a live source is awesome | 02:45 |
| Thr0r | I will check this mvp player aswell - enjoy HBO "Chernobyl" | 02:47 |
| Thr0r | ... mvp player is not in the Ubuntu SW shop | 02:55 |
| Eickmeyer | !info gnome-mpv | 03:16 |
| ubottu | gnome-mpv (source: gnome-mpv): simple GTK+ frontend for mpv. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 143 kB, installed size 657 kB | 03:16 |
| Keres | mpv | 03:20 |
| Keres | sorry was watching basketball | 03:20 |
| Thr0r | ok - I'll Try. | 03:24 |
| Thr0r | Sorry for bothering you guys with all my Q's but this Linux thing and ubuntu studio really triggered something in me which I should have done years ago. The music, the sound. There's alot(!) of applications in ubuntu studio - so just be prepared for more Q's :) | 03:29 |
| Thr0r | Hmm.. Some say MPV is malware, some say it should not be listed, some like it.. I don't know. This is info from the Ubuntu shop.. | 04:24 |
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