[02:36] <wave_phenomena> wait do people use this
[02:37] <wave_phenomena> is this a thing
[02:37] <Kyoku> well, i asked a question over three hours ago
[02:37] <Kyoku> and you are the only person to tlak since
[02:37] <Kyoku> so.. i guess not
[03:16] <IrcsomeBot1> zparihar was added by: zparihar
 I've been on the Neon group for 2 years, but never really realized there is a Kubuntu group!
 Glad to be here
 I wanted to ask a question, for Kubntu 18.04 running Plasma 5.12.7
 Has anybody successfully setup 4 Monitors using 2 ATI cards on Plasma 5.12 before? … I'm getting a weird error of a non-right-clickable desktop on the 4th screen (sometimes alternates between 3rd screen as well)
[03:26] <keithzg-M> Closest I've done is 3 monitors with 1 AMD card, sorry
 I don't think its a driver issue.  I think it s a Plasma Issue... though could be Xorg?  But I'd have to try a few other DE's to test... but this is my workstation...
[06:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:35] <Muckmuckb4500> I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask...Is Debian Jessie end of Life????
[07:43] <jpoeta2>  Hi guys I've built a PC for the first time. Before I had an iMac. I've noticed my new built is loud all the time even when just surfing the web. Any ideas of it's possible to regulate the noise.
[07:46] <diogenes_> jpoeta2, look in bios for fan control.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:06] <IrcsomeBot1> patricia1553 was added by: patricia1553
 (Photo, 1077x559) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ENwpYtrN/file_15730.jpg hi
 @BluesKaj, Hi Blueskaj!
 Hi everybody!
[19:00] <Eric_Adams> Hi Phil
 Hi Eric!
 The Kubuntu support group is too empty!
 I hoped I could answer some questions and learn from reading conversations of others.
 😉
 @Linuxophil, i guess we gotta spread the word 😉  … I just joined yesterday
 My father will be in here from next week on. New to Linux and Kubuntu! 😊
 I've also not really experienced many issues with 18.04 yet... maybe thats why people aren't looking for support? LOL!
 @Linuxophil, Nice!
 You don't by any chance know somebody who could setup and support a  backports ppa for Kubtun 18.04 to catch all the former Win7 users when Win7 is EOL in january?
 I have 37 members of my family been using Kubuntu and Ubuntu and Linux Mint for the last 11 years
 @zparihar, That's wonderful!
 @Linuxophil, yeah... its been really easy too.... I only help them when their Printer toner runs out now, LOL
 @zparihar, LOL! Yep. very different from Win10!
 @Linuxophil, I don't understand how or what you mean that supporting a Backport PPA for Kubuntu will help?
 But I guess supporting the OS you use is always easier...
 @Linuxophil, I use Kubuntu.  But supporting Linux Mint or Ubuntu hasn't been an issue... because I never really needed to support anyone
 @zparihar, To catch the Win 7 users... we need Marketing Dollars
 I'm planning on becoming a Billionaire within the next few years, so I'll donate Marketing dollars 😉
 @zparihar, Well, Win7 users will look for a distro with a windows-ish paradigm and an all GUI tool set. They will for instance not want to use the command line for updating and installing programs. Discover in Plasma 5.12 is far too buggy. In 5.16 I hear good things...
 @zparihar, Actually, we just need current plasma on an LTS base... (and NOT Neon)
 It is hard for me to recommend someone Kubuntu atm. Too many paper cuts still in Plasma 5.12. But not in 5.16. But that will run out of support in 9 months...
 @Linuxophil, I just came back to Kubuntu from using NEON for the past 2 years.  I wouldn't suggest Neon to the Public nor would I suggest using the latest KDE Plasma.  Don't get me wrong... I loved nerding out with NEON.  But, unfortuneatly, too many bugs and mini regressions for my main workstation.
 @zparihar, My thoughts exactly.
 How do you know about 5.16 though... it hasn't been released....
 I've been using KDE since 2.2...LOL exposed my age!  I was 19 when it came out
 The ex-Win7-users need the user friendlyness of Kubuntu with the usability of current Plasma. Ideally a ppa with just the latest point releases of each plasma iteration. That would be a distro I would love to recommend to everybody and use myself!
 and my experience has been, for the best KDE experience, don't use the latest one.  We depend on the public to report bugs and regressions on the latest features of KDE
 @zparihar, I agree. I am never talking about the .1-releases.
 But 5.16 will be a plasma LTS if I am informed correctly.
 I think 18.04 is the best we can do for now.  I understand what you mean about papercuts... at least they are small... but it has been the most stable one for me.   … Unfortunately with the QT Basethat Kubuntu 18.04 is on  (i think that was the dependency) , we cannot get a newer version of Plasma past 5.12. … I'm currently on 5.12.7, i'm not sure what is taking 5.12.8 so long though?
 @zparihar, Usability and Productivity report by u/pointystick.
 @Linuxophil, I don't believe that to be the case... I was wondering that, but there has been no mention.
 @zparihar, i remember KDE team made an announcement way before 5.12 was released saying that it would be LTS
 and the LTS release coincided with the 18.04 release...
 so my educated GUESS would be 5.18 LTS with 20.04 … But lets not start rumorus 😉
 We'd have to ask Aaron on the NEON channel though
 @zparihar, I seem to remember that Rick Mills hinted that it would be possible to backport QT as well if somebody would be capable of puttign in the time...
 @Linuxophil, That would be amazing
 @zparihar, I think the same.
 @zparihar, Yeah. Unfortunately I have no way of doing that.
 the nex question would be, which Plasma would we focus on?
 I found that 5.13.5 was more stable than 5.14.0
 thats when I realized, that I couldn't continue to upgrade and expect to work smoothly
 Kubuntu needs more money...... larger team, larger marketing dollars, etc...
 Kubuntu seems to be the largest/most important Distro with the Plasma desktop. I think the KDE project would be well served to maybe extend the cooperation...
 If I do rock it in my business... I'll be injecting capital into the KDE community
 I've built my career on Linux... my business is based on it... and the KDE desktop has been my biggest tool for 18 years now...
[20:01] <dps> hello all
 @zparihar, Cool! What work do you do?
 @dps, Hello dps! Welcome to our group!