| kenvandine | robert_ancell: yes, I'll do that | 00:06 |
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| kenvandine | robert_ancell: can you please add a Trello card for me? I'm afk right now | 00:07 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 06:05 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 06:08 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:09 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:59 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:00 |
| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| oSoMoN | hi duflu | 07:10 |
| seb128 | hey again desktopers | 07:11 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:13 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, seb128 | 07:14 |
| seb128 | hey duflu didrocks oSoMoN | 07:15 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, seb128 | 07:16 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 07:16 |
| oSoMoN | morning Wimpress | 07:16 |
| duflu | Morning Wimpress | 07:19 |
| didrocks | hey Wimpress | 07:21 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress | 07:26 |
| marcustomlinson | good morning! | 07:40 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:40 |
| oSoMoN | morning marcustomlinson | 07:41 |
| marcustomlinson | hey didrocks and oSoMoN, how are you? | 07:41 |
| didrocks | I'm ok, thanks, yourself? | 07:41 |
| marcustomlinson | yeah pretty good | 07:42 |
| duflu | Hi there marcustomlinson | 07:42 |
| marcustomlinson | hey duflu | 07:42 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson | 07:42 |
| marcustomlinson | how goes it seb128 and duflu? | 07:43 |
| seb128 | good, I need to try to stop being distracted by bugs triaging and wanting to SRU more fixes to the LTS though :) | 07:43 |
| duflu | marcustomlinson, tired and aching. I am assuming that's temporary. You, marcustomlinson? | 07:43 |
| seb128 | I saw an evince bugs about annotations and now I'm going over the topic and triaging issues downstream and upstream :p | 07:43 |
| marcustomlinson | duflu: that sucks... I jut recovered from a sore back recently, was torture | 07:44 |
| marcustomlinson | So sad though, I hurt it... getting up from my chair wrong... 🤦🏻♂️ | 07:45 |
| jerbob92 | Hi! Due to recent problems with a Intel microcode update which broke booting completely, I'd like to suggest to add dis_ucode_ldr (disable loading of microcode) to boot options in recovery mode. Where should I add such suggestions? | 07:46 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: sounds like you need a long weekend to reboot ;) | 07:47 |
| seb128 | :) | 07:47 |
| seb128 | jerbob92, hey, that's not rather a desktop topic, on IRC I would suggest #ubuntu-devel. You can file a wishlist on launchpad and for discussion I would recommend https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel | 07:49 |
| jerbob92 | seb128, thanks! I'll try the mail-list! | 07:50 |
| seb128 | np! | 07:50 |
| willcooke | moin | 07:50 |
| marcustomlinson | morning willcooke | 07:50 |
| willcooke | how goes marcustomlinson | 07:50 |
| willcooke | ?> | 07:50 |
| marcustomlinson | good thanks! Yourself? | 07:50 |
| willcooke | Not too bad thanks | 07:51 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:52 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks | 07:52 |
| oSoMoN | hey willcooke | 07:53 |
| willcooke | morning oSoMoN | 07:54 |
| willcooke | duflu, thanks for pitching in on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1831514 | 07:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1798790 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Eoan) "duplicate for #1831514 Ubuntu login screen never appears when using the Nvidia driver (and setting WaylandEnable=false fixes it)" [High,In progress] | 07:54 |
| willcooke | is there something we should rollback to stop people hitting that, or is it fairly low impact? | 07:54 |
| willcooke | I know Laney is working on the fix upstream, but is there something worth doing in the meantime? | 07:55 |
| duflu | willcooke, I've been handholding that bug for a long time now. The workaround listed in the title is my only suggestion | 07:55 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 07:56 |
| willcooke | afternoon :) | 07:56 |
| willcooke | I would assume it's not blowing up for everyone with an nv card, or we would have heard more about it | 07:56 |
| duflu | willcooke, it was not anything new so I would not worry about whatever caused one or two people to only see it recently. Many people have been seeing it for a long time | 07:57 |
| willcooke | got it, thanks duflu | 07:57 |
| duflu | willcooke, I think Laney said a "race"? If so then it would come and go | 07:57 |
| willcooke | ahhh, that sounds likely | 07:57 |
| duflu | I think I saw it once or twice last week, but otherwise I do not see it. Meanwhile there are 58 people "affected" by the bug | 07:59 |
| duflu | So more in reality | 07:59 |
| popey_ | I got pinged by someone last night who was affected when the latest g-s and g-s-c landed. | 07:59 |
| popey_ | they had to hold back the packages or get black screen | 08:01 |
| duflu | In that case it would be a side-effect. The new packages are not faulty, but some slowdown (or speedup?) somewhere could make the same old bug more easily reproducible | 08:02 |
| duflu | The only condition is that we ask all users to try the workaround. If the workaround doesn't help them then they need to log a separate bug | 08:02 |
| Laney | peace | 08:03 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | it's to do with how long the wayland attempt takes to fail, yes | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey duflu | 08:04 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:06 |
| oSoMoN | morning Laney | 08:12 |
| Laney | moin didrocks oSoMoN, how's it going? | 08:12 |
| oSoMoN | night was short so feeling a bit tired, but good otherwise | 08:13 |
| Laney | :( | 08:13 |
| Laney | hope nothing too bad | 08:13 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:15 |
| seb128 | duflu, there you are assuming that their issue is the same one, but I don't think that has been backed up by fact, from what we know it could also be that gnome-shell segfault for them (we had a few segfault regression reported) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | that report the reported said he has constant failure to login, post reboots and post reinstall | 08:16 |
| seb128 | it seems different from the race to me | 08:16 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Laney | 08:17 |
| duflu | seb128, there may be other causes of the Wayland probe crashing on Nvidia, but I am not sure it's helpful to assume that's more likely. I'm also not sure we get crash reports for that -- maybe gdm catches them | 08:17 |
| seb128 | we should at least get a journal log | 08:18 |
| duflu | Yes, that might help. Otherwise just treat it as a separate bug after the big one is fixed | 08:18 |
| duflu | I think being wrong about a duplicate status is better organisation than never linking bugs at all. They are more likely to linger forever if not linked | 08:19 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, nah, just went to bed late and got up too early, that's it, no sick kids or anything like that | 08:19 |
| duflu | But there's no evidence yet that it's wrong | 08:19 |
| seb128 | duflu, I'm concerned that we overlook a regression but flagging it as "it's is old issue" | 08:20 |
| seb128 | but oh well | 08:20 |
| seb128 | we have 3 reported regresssions for sure which are new segfault/errors, so maybe that's just one of those | 08:20 |
| seb128 | the SRU is blocked meanwhile | 08:20 |
| duflu | seb128, OK no problem. If they are assigned to gdm3 and tagged 'nvidia' they also won't get lost. | 08:21 |
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| seb128 | Laney, oSoMoN, others, I've added https://trello.com/c/2aTq2RXr/167-gnome-stable-updates-srued-to-bionic to the june backlog where I listed some GNOME updates that look like that would be usefil to SRU to bionic | 08:32 |
| seb128 | that's low priority and "free to grab" for those who want to do some of them (I will pick a few) | 08:33 |
| seb128 | just pinging you as a FYI, help is welcome but I'm not assigning/forcing those on anyone | 08:33 |
| Laney | thx | 08:33 |
| oSoMoN | ack | 08:33 |
| didrocks | Laney: I'm ok (in meeting, sorry). Seems the zfs list made it to phoronix again | 08:36 |
| Laney | you celebrity | 08:37 |
| seb128 | positive echo there? | 08:38 |
| Laney | they found the todo board on github and wrote a bit around that | 08:40 |
| * Laney goes to figure out charm relations | 08:41 | |
| Laney | now you can deploy the cloud worker, and it sets up some of the units | 08:42 |
| Laney | needs to connect to rabbitmq now | 08:42 |
| * seb128 changing location, brb | 08:48 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess you got the email, but in case not the desktop list moderation queue had emails about grubzfs-testsuite failing to build in the canary ppa | 11:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: that was ~ppa1, correct? ~ppa2 passed | 12:04 |
| didrocks | (and is the one corresponding to the NEW queue) | 12:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/426755593/buildlog_ubuntu-eoan-amd64.grubzfs-testsuite_0.1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 12:04 |
| seb128 | so yes | 12:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, already handled, but thanks for the ping :) | 12:05 |
| seb128 | yw | 12:05 |
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| tkamppeter | I have prepared a debdiff for the Bionic SRU for bug 1763520, could someone sponsor the upload? Thanks. | 13:52 |
| ubot5 | bug 1763520 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Bionic) "after upgrade to bionic, printing fails without explanation / logs / debuggability" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763520 | 13:52 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, you should subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 14:00 |
| seb128 | (it's fine to ask on the channel as well, I might have a look at some point if no-one else does it before) | 14:01 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I have subscribed ubuntu-sponsors now, but I asked in the channel first in the hope to get it done with higher priority and not in the long line of non-Canonical contributors. | 14:09 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, as said it's fine to ask here, but best to also subscribe sponsors | 14:09 |
| seb128 | some of us do use the sponsoring queue as a reminder as well | 14:09 |
| tkamppeter | OK. | 14:10 |
| xnox | mvo: seb128: bionic currently uses core (and snapd from within), is it ready to switch to core18+snapd snaps? | 14:12 |
| mvo | xnox: yes, with 2.39 we should be good to move to the snapd snap | 14:15 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: hey, small question on the grub launchpad branch. I did branch ubuntu, upstream, pristine-tar. However gbp builpackage --git-ignore-branch (as I'm on the ubuntu branch) tells me "gbp:error: upstream/2.02+dfsg1 is not a valid treeish". And indeed, this tag doesn't exist, how do you build it? | 14:26 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: related to this, gbp pq rebase/import fails on the first patches with index errors. I wonder if there is something special when you work on those branches? | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: it's a git-dpm branch | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | not gbp | 14:26 |
| didrocks | ah, that explains | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | yup :) | 14:26 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: ok, thx! I will refresh with this :) | 14:27 |
| cyphermox | so to build, you may need to run git-dpm prepare (if you don't already have downloaded the tarball before), and then you could just debuild I guess | 14:27 |
| didrocks | nice! I'll see how to refresh/add patches. I hope the mapages are good enough :) | 14:27 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: what are you trying to do? I have blocked time to do the grub merge and a few changes in SB now | 14:27 |
| cyphermox | oh boy | 14:27 |
| cyphermox | no, they aren't great tbh | 14:28 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: jibel and I are adding zfs linux support | 14:28 |
| didrocks | spoiler alert on doc quality :) | 14:28 |
| didrocks | so, this shouldn't impact too much your merge | 14:28 |
| cyphermox | isn't there already some zfs support in grub? | 14:28 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: not really for multi-systems, also no snapshot/clone supports and so on | 14:28 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:29 |
| cyphermox | well, in short: | 14:29 |
| cyphermox | git-dpm checkout-patched; <do your changes>; git add <whatever you changed>; git commit <and add Patch-Name: below your description, see the other patches>; git-dpm update-patches | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | if you need to modify patches, or put it somewhere other than the end; you can 'git rebase -i upstream' | 14:30 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: wonderful, that will help. Thanks again :) | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | you really shouldn't change any patch unless you're in 'git-dpm checkout-patched' (a branch starting with patched-) | 14:31 |
| cyphermox | that is, if you care about committing and merging without a universe of conflicts | 14:31 |
| didrocks | got it. Will take care of this | 14:31 |
| cyphermox | if you run into trouble, I'm happy to do the git-dpm bits, just give me a patch and I'll figure it out ;) | 14:31 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: sure | 14:33 |
| cyphermox | essentially the end result is if you're in a patched- branch, then you have a nice git tree with everything being commits, first upstream code and then any debian/ubuntu changes | 14:33 |
| didrocks | yeah, a little bit like gbp pq with the additional branch, so not that different :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | willcooke, Laney, could you give another round of testing to update-notifier in bionic-proposed (and bug #1820259), I've updated it with a fix to hide the icon when livepatch is not in use, things seem to work fine form my testing but since you found issues in the previous round I would appreciate if you could poke again | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | bug 1820259 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Bionic) "[FFe] Add a indicator to show the status of Livepatch" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1820259 | 14:52 |
| Laney | yes sure, is tomorrow ok though? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, no problem | 14:54 |
| seb128 | thx! | 14:54 |
| Laney | basically for me: if you install it on a clean system and don't set up livepatch, do you get no indicator? | 14:55 |
| Laney | same for if you turn it on and then later disable | 14:55 |
| seb128 | yes and yes | 14:58 |
| seb128 | it hides as soon as the service is disabled | 14:58 |
| Laney | can double check though ;-) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | it probably doesn't require you guys to try it, but it doesn't hurt to have another look, you did find a problem in the previous round :) | 14:59 |
| willcooke | seb128, I've just this moment installed a fresh 18.04 on my test laptop for this :) | 14:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, woot, thx | 14:59 |
| willcooke | seb128, Laney done. All looks good to me now | 15:27 |
| willcooke | Bug updated | 15:27 |
| willcooke | The UX is good now, I like | 15:27 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thx for testing! | 16:03 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| willcooke | night all | 17:25 |
| oSoMoN | good night | 18:45 |
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