[00:29] <Thr0r> I am ripping off all my old cd's and building a library and playlists. That work goes just fine using Asunder CD ripper witch I got a  tip to use here.. But I also have alot of .wma files and itunes .mp4 files on my old win7 HD and alot of them will not play in any of my players..  Audacious gives no error, just starts and stop, Parole says “GStreamer backend error (The stream is encrypted and decryption is not supported)”  - S
[00:29] <Thr0r> ome .wma files works just fine though.. Any point in trying to get them decrypted in some player?
[00:33] <M_aD> Thr0r: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:34] <OvenWerks> Thr0r: I use the Moheli Theme which has even bigger grabbers (I think) I use the Numix style on top of that for a more obvious active window indication.
[00:34] <M_aD> with that you pull in the multimedia codecs you need to play other files 'n stuff
[00:35] <OvenWerks> That sounds right
[00:35]  * M_aD calls it a day
[00:35] <M_aD> chat later ;)
[00:35] <Thr0r> M_aD: ok - thanks
[00:35] <M_aD> yw
[00:36] <OvenWerks> .wma is a container as is mp4, it is the actual codec in side that matters.
[00:41] <Thr0r> OvenWerks: ok - I will try both the Theme and that from M_aD:  regarding the music - but I don't like to install everything without understanding what it is and that it is safe. But I have paid for all that music and I want it back..
[00:47] <Thr0r> Will this ubuntu-restricted-extras allow all my players to play these encrypted music? I read about it and I have no problem installing it - just don't know how to use it and how it works..?
[00:47] <Thr0r> btw -
[00:47] <Thr0r> i
[00:48] <Thr0r> Btw - iTunes is history now..
[00:51] <Thr0r> sorry about the latest posting - keyboard issue....
[00:57]  * OvenWerks has never used itunes
[01:04] <Thr0r> Well - I did the install "sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras" but it did not help. Don't know how to use it really - if it is a new program or not...
[01:05] <OvenWerks> not a new program, new codecs that other programs can use
[01:05] <OvenWerks> I don't know how to tell if they are working or not.
[01:06] <OvenWerks> using ffmpeg from the command line can pinpoint what codec the various parts of a file are encoded with though.
[01:07] <Thr0r> ok - I get the same error in parole when opening .vma's
[01:09] <OvenWerks> I have that as well as vcl and xine some things play on one but not others.
[01:12] <Thr0r> ok - maybe there is another # channel in here somewhere with experts on this topic. But I have some really nice music I've paid for that I would like to have..
[01:12] <OvenWerks> I understand that
[01:13] <OvenWerks> I use mecoder to transcode things to work with my DVD player which is quite picky
[01:14] <Thr0r> thanks for helping - now I will experiment with Themes and grabbing :)
[01:14] <OvenWerks> I have noticed that when it starts it gives a lot of information about the encoding used in the original.
[01:14] <OvenWerks> cool
[02:46] <Thr0r> It's often the small things... But I'd hate to think that the fact that I'm not able to grab frames of windows in order to resize them and arrange them without using a minute to do it would be the thing that led med to not using Linux. I have never had that problem in Windows - ever. Have tried different themes and all, doesn't help. (Didn't find Moheli Theme..).
[02:48] <OvenWerks> Thr0r: I am on 18.04, so maybe it has been dropped.
[02:48] <Thr0r> ok.. maybe
[02:49] <OvenWerks> I found it in settings->window manager->style->theme
[02:51] <OvenWerks> I have always found themes confusing, There is window manager theme, And there is settings-> appearance->style and icon themes
[02:55] <OvenWerks> some times the style makes no difference if the main theme does it all... also some of the gnome applications take over the window decorations with really (in my opinion) horible internal theming. The push has been towards a "phone like" experience (no thank you) so that people who have used a phone will feel at home. That is great for browsing with one window at full screen, but for some one
[02:56] <OvenWerks> doing work with as many as 10 windows per screen (and four work spoaces with as many windows each)...
[02:56] <OvenWerks> really, I need to know which window has focus and be able to move and resize easily.
[02:58] <OvenWerks> windowing originally started with all these features (see the original motif windows) where the window handles were all separated and plainly visible.
[02:58] <OvenWerks> and has gone to harder to use from there so it can be more like windows or mac.
[03:01] <Thr0r> I totally aggree! Much is going into getting it look fancyer....  But - Yess! Window manager > Style - I Find it and it's much better. There is even Greybird-accessibility, maybe that is where I am now at my age that I need that. Thanks!
[03:02] <Thr0r> ..and I'n not thaaaat old...
[03:03] <OvenWerks> I get to say I am in my 50s.... for one more year :P
[03:04] <Thr0r> I have 5 more 8-) oldie
[03:06] <Thr0r> Anyways thanks so much for help - It will help in my daily work trying to get the music to play..
[03:06] <OvenWerks> your welcome
[10:41] <M_aD> Well, i kinda explained what ubuntu-restricted-extras pulls in :)
[14:31] <studio-user014> #ubuntu-nevada
[14:31] <studio-user014> #ubuntu-nevada -help
[14:32] <Eickmeyer> studio-user014: Try using /join before that?
[14:33] <studio-user014> Thanks!
[14:34] <Eickmeyer> yw
[14:43] <studio-user014> Is there a man page or help for commands here? (Sorry. I'm new)
[14:46] <Eickmeyer> studio-user014: http://ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html turned up in a web search.
[14:46] <studio-user014> Thanks, again. I did a "man irc"
[14:47] <studio-user014>  But, it doesn't show command structure ("/")
[14:47] <Eickmeyer> It's not going to.
[14:49] <DPeer2000> Hmmm... I thought my "nick" was studio-user014
[14:49] <Mondo> test
[14:50] <Mondo> Hmmm... Nickserv says it's registered, but still lets me use it. Interesting
[14:50] <M_aD> since this isn't Ubuntu Studio related please /join #ubuntustudio-offtopic
[14:51] <Mondo> Sure thing.
[14:54] <Mondo> Nobody is awake at Ubuntu-Nevada. Could you help with a sound problem in Studio, Eickmeyer?
[14:55] <Eickmeyer> Mondo: What's up?
[14:55] <Eickmeyer> M_aD could possibly help too.
[14:56] <M_aD> depends
[14:56] <Mondo> I did something to my Ubuntu Studio and killed the sound
[14:56] <Mondo> No sound from Rythmbox, browser, etc... :(
[14:56] <Eickmeyer> Well, what did you do?
[14:56] <Mondo> Yesterday I added Clam and it found a couple of files in an old folder that I quarantined. Autoscan last night found nothing.
[14:56] <Mondo> \This morning I added KeePassXC just before I noticed the lack of sound.
[14:56] <Eickmeyer> Hmmm...
[14:57] <Eickmeyer> !sound | Mondo, try these steps before we delve deeper
[14:59] <Mondo> Thank you. I'll go through all that
[16:37] <Mondo> OK. So, I did some troubleshooting as suggested on the SoundTroubleshooting page and even aplay doesn't work. However, the top of the page says, "As of 2012, much of the information on this page is outdated. Please refer to the official sound debugging guide" so I'm not sure it works like it's supposed to in Studio. I went to the referenced Ubuntu\Support page. But, it's just several screens of advertising. No joy, yet.
[16:38] <Eickmeyer> Mondo: Try opening Ubuntu Studio Controls and click "Stop Jack". That should get things back to normal if you have started Jack for whatever reason.
[16:40] <Eickmeyer> You /may/ have to restart whatever applications you have running that play sound.
[16:43] <Mondo> Nothing. I rebooted earlier. Should I reboot again, after stopping Jack?'
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> Shouldn't need to.
[16:45] <Mondo> QasMixer says it
[16:45] <Mondo> 's 100%
[16:45] <Eickmeyer> Open pavucontrol and see what's going on there.
[16:45] <Mondo> Control settings are at 100
[16:45] <Eickmeyer> But what is the audio card selected?
[16:45] <Mondo> PS: no sound through headphones, either
[16:46] <Eickmeyer> If it says "dummy" then that helps us know what's going on.
[16:47] <Mondo> I aplay -l shows the following:
[16:47] <Mondo> As of 2012, much of the information on this page is outdated. Please refer to the official sound debugging guide
[16:47] <Mondo> Damn... can't paste that here?
[16:47] <Eickmeyer> !paste
[16:49] <Mondo> I pasted into paste.ubuntu.com
[16:49] <Mondo> Can you see it?
[16:49] <Eickmeyer> Paste the link here.
[16:49] <Mondo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ytK6n6nvd9/
[16:50] <Eickmeyer> Ok, alsa looks fine. Try typing "pulseaudio -k" in a terminal.
[16:52] <Mondo> as root?
[16:52] <Eickmeyer> No. Never as root.
[16:52] <Mondo> OK. Troubleshooting page said one test didn't work unless root.
[16:52] <Mondo> exiting root now
[16:53] <Mondo> That didn't give any results. Still no sound.
[16:54] <Eickmeyer> Open pavucontrol.
[16:54] <Eickmeyer> Make sure it's sending audio to the correct output.
[16:54] <Eickmeyer> In this case, your analog output.
[16:56] <Mondo> Output device is Port: Analog Output and Port Speakers
[16:56] <Eickmeyer> Ok. What are you using to test audio?
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> What application?
[16:57] <Mondo> RhythmBox
[16:57] <Mondo> youTube
[16:57] <Mondo> The center test in terminal
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> Ok, let's not do anything browser-based. Restart rhythmbox and try playing something again.
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> Reason: You have to fully restart anything that plays audio (including browsers) to test the audio from that application. But, I know you're connected to IRC via web, so that would defeat the purpose.
[16:58] <Mondo> It's playing. No sound. BTW, when I plug the headphones the PAVcontrol acks
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> Try rebooting. I'm out of ideas.
[16:59] <Mondo> Studio doesn't seem to have an IRC program. Did I miss it?
[17:00] <Mondo> Rebooting now
[17:02] <Mondo_> Back now
[17:02] <Mondo_> What was the terminal command for center test?
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> I don't know that.
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> Try rhythmbox.
[17:03] <Mondo_> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[17:05] <Mondo_> hello? I didn't quit... :(
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> No, your old browser session timed-out.
[17:06] <Mondo_> OK
[17:06] <Mondo_> RhythmBox no joy; VLC also no joy
[17:07] <Mondo_> Looks like I'll have to wipe/rebuild?
[17:07] <Eickmeyer> Normally, there's no reason.
[17:07] <Eickmeyer> Which version of Ubuntu Studio are you using, and have you added any extra repositories?
[17:07] <Mondo_> "Normally", unless you're a noob!
[17:08] <Mondo_> 18.04 with back ports
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> Ok, good.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> No KXStudio?
[17:08] <Mondo_> No
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> Good.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> I'm kindof at a loss. I was hoping OvenWerks was here since he has a few more tricks up his sleeve than I do.
[17:08] <Mondo_> I tried KX and AV. Couldn't get either to configure well.
[17:09] <Mondo_> OK. Thanks for all your help
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> Try #ubuntu
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> "/join #ubuntu"
[17:09] <Mondo_> I'll check back later and look for OvenWorks
[17:09] <Mondo_> OK
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> There's people active in #ubuntu now.
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> !kxstudio | Mondo_, here's our policy on KXStudio
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> Just FYI.
[17:10] <Mondo_> #ubuntu is VERY busy right now
[17:10] <Mondo_> I can't get it
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> Mondo_: Just post your question, and explain you did the steps in !sound.
[17:11] <Mondo_> Yes, Eickmeyer, I saw that when I d/l
[17:11] <Mondo_> OK
[17:11] <Mondo_> What's "!sound"?
[17:11] <Mondo_> man page?
[17:11] <Eickmeyer> That's the ! command I used to show you the initial troubleshooting steps.
[17:11] <Eickmeyer> !sound
[17:12] <Eickmeyer> Mondo_: is it not letting you join?
[17:12] <Mondo_> Ah! Koolio. Thanks, again!
[17:12] <Mondo_> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-unregged] You have been redirected to a notice-only channel
[17:12] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, you might need to register.
[17:12] <DirtyEar> Hi everybody. I want to run the "X Air Edit" software to use the Behrniger XR18. I cannot conect the Behringer with my PC. Do you have any idea of how can I Fixed it?. Thanks for any help!
[17:13] <Eickmeyer> !register
[17:13] <Mondo_> lot of join attempts right now
[17:13] <Mondo_> OK. Trying freenode
[17:13] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: I've only been able to get that to work via network.
[17:14] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer thanks to answer!. I have connected the behrnigher withe the ethernet cable
[17:14] <Mondo_> I have a Behringer Xenyx X1832 that I'm hoping to be able to use
[17:14] <DirtyEar> The "program" opens but never shows me ip or something
[17:14] <Eickmeyer> Mondo_: I have a Behringer UMC404HD that works perfectly. Tell me how the X1832 works for you. That should work via Jack.
[17:15] <DirtyEar> I had an UMC404HD and works perfectly!
[17:15] <Mondo_> once I get things running I'll let you know
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: You might have to manually enter the IP. You said it's an XAIR 18?
[17:15] <DirtyEar> Now I have the behringer XR18 and it sounds and everything, but the software X AIR EDIT does not run
[17:15] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer
[17:16] <DirtyEar> If you could help to do it, I will do! thanks bro!
[17:16] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: I find it odd that it doesn't run. I never had an issue. Did you try running it from a terminal and see what it says?
[17:17]  * Eickmeyer has used X32s via the X Edit app
[17:17] <DirtyEar> No. I just double click the file I downloaded from the Behringer webpage
[17:18] <Eickmeyer> Right. Try right-clicking the folder it's in, click "Open Terminal" and type the name of the app.
[17:18]  * Eickmeyer is on the wrong computer right now, might have to switch
[17:20] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer, thanks!
[17:20] <DirtyEar> I did waht you said, it shows me, orden does not found (but in spanish)
[17:23] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: I'm going to give it a shot. Hang on.
[17:23]  * Eickmeyer is on the right computer now
[17:23]  * Eickmeyer is running 19.04
[17:26] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: I just tried it and had no issues. I'm running v1.5 64-bit.
[17:26] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, I don't have an X-AIR to test it on.
[17:27]  * Eickmeyer would love to have one!
[17:27] <Eickmeyer> d'oh
[17:56] <DirtyEar> Hi. Excuse me I lost eh internet connection
[18:00] <DirtyEar> I tried to run in console
[18:00] <DirtyEar> Shows me. X-AIR-Edit: does not found the order
[18:04] <DirtyEar> Some other idea?
[18:05] <DirtyEar> How can I connect the XR18 manually?
[18:54] <DirtyEar> Hi. Excuse me I lost the connection again
[18:55] <DirtyEar> Some idea about how to connect manually the Behringer XR18?
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: You were having difficulty even getting the app to run last we were able to communicate.
[19:04] <DirtyEar> Hi Eickmeyer, thanks a lot bro.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> I just tried it and had no issues getting it to launch.
[19:04] <DirtyEar> I have the app working, it's running but it does not recognize the mixer
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> Connected via USB or network?
[19:05] <Eickmeyer> The only way I've ever been able to get the X32-Edit app to work is via network.
[19:05] <DirtyEar> I tried in windows 10 and the mixer sohws automatically. But in ubuntuStudio does not show me anything
[19:05] <DirtyEar> Network connection
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> Did you click on "Setup" and try to auto scan?
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> "rescan" in setup
[19:06] <DirtyEar> I am listening to music right now
[19:06] <DirtyEar> Ok
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> Moreover, I'm talking about inside the X-Air app.
[19:07] <DirtyEar> I click on setuo
[19:07] <DirtyEar> then click on rescan but it does not show me any adress or mixer
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> (BTW, this goes outside of the scope of Ubuntu Studio, so this is help as a courtesy since I'm familiar with the app)
[19:08] <Eickmeyer> Are you connected to the mixer via its access point or is it connected to your wifi?
[19:09] <DirtyEar> Excuse me about that. May you give me the correct "room" or something. ANd once again thank you for your help. I really apreciatte it
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> The only real help you're going to get is from Behringer since it's their app, but I'll help as far as I know how.
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Basically, this isn't Ubuntu Studio's fault if it doesn't work.
[19:09] <DirtyEar> I use the Ethernet option and conect directly th mixer with the pc through LAN wire or cable
[19:10] <Eickmeyer> Ok, do you know the X-Air's IP address?
[19:31] <DirtyEar> Bro excuse me once again the internet
[19:31] <DirtyEar> Really sorry
[19:31] <DirtyEar> 14:10:19) Eickmeyer: Ok, do you know the X-Air's IP address?
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> Still here.
[19:32] <DirtyEar> I supose 192.168.1.1, is it?
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> Probably, try it. Assuming it's in access point mode.
[19:34] <DirtyEar> How can I now the IP?
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> Well, the other thing is that your computer can't be connected to any other networks, at least from what I can ascertain. https://behringerwiki.musictribe.com/index.php?title=4._Network_Connection
[19:35] <DirtyEar> Do I have to put in acces point and try to enter with my cellphone?
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> That I don't know. I'm just familiar with the app, but never operated an XR18 myself. I'm more of an X32 guy.
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> What I just linked there has just about everything you can know about how to connect.
[19:37] <DirtyEar> I like the x32 but I just had money to the XR18, but of course I still working to save money for the X32
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> Right, I don't blame you. I wish I had an XR18 myself. I used to operate X32s nearly daily.
[19:37] <DirtyEar> Yes, I see some "tips" to wok with the mixer
[19:38] <DirtyEar> I see. You have the oportunity to play with X32 almost every day
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> Used to, until mid-December.
[19:38] <DirtyEar> I just used it 2 times and it is very great!
[19:39] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer, new things comes every day!
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> Yep!
[19:40] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer I will try waht the link said. If i have some issue, is it right if I post here what I get?
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> You can, but I can't guarantee I can help you since I have nothing to test on.
[19:43] <DirtyEar> Do not worry about it, I am very grateful for your help. Thanks a lot Eickmeyer!
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome. :)
[19:44] <DirtyEar> Great!
[22:20] <studio-user952> Are you still on, Eickmeyer?
[22:21] <Eickmeyer> Mondo: My time is limited. What's up?
[22:21] <Mondo> Just wanted you to know that my no sound issue is only in Studio. Works fine in Mont.
[22:21] <Mondo> *Mint
[22:22] <Mondo> You go. I'll check in tomorrow and maybe someone else has some ideas...
[22:23] <Eickmeyer> Mondo: I'd still check in #ubuntu if I were you. Ubuntu Studio /is/ Ubuntu.
[22:23] <Eickmeyer> Aside from Jack and installed software, there's no real difference.
[22:24] <Mondo> Yes. I couldn't get in there today. I'll try them first in the morning.
[22:24] <Mondo> Thanks, again, for all your help! :)
[22:24] <Eickmeyer> You're welcome.
[23:52] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: sorry I was away... but "Home directory not accessible: Permission denied" sounds like someone is trying to run something as sudo or su something. Certainly a permitions problem.
[23:53] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: we already determined he was in root mode. Didn't matter what he tried, though.
[23:54] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: once you start jack in root (or some other direct to alsa application) the device is locked period.
[23:55] <OvenWerks> need to reboot at the very least
[23:55] <Eickmeyer> Gotcha. Sounds like he followed an instruction in the wiki incorrectly.
[23:55] <Eickmeyer> He did reboot, but couldn't get anything working.
[23:55] <OvenWerks> anything in audio does not need nor should ever use root.
[23:55] <OvenWerks> audio is always userland
[23:56] <Eickmeyer> Right, that's one reason I said "never as root".
[23:56] <OvenWerks> The secret command is: cd /tmp && wget http://jackaudio.org/downloads/adevices.sh && bash ./adevices.sh
[23:56] <OvenWerks> (all one line
[23:57] <OvenWerks> and paste the output
[23:58] <OvenWerks> It (just like aplay/record -l) displays all the devices but it also shows what process is using the device and who the user is.
[23:58] <Eickmeyer> If we were to make that a ! command, what would we call it?
[23:58] <Eickmeyer> I mean, for the channel here.
[23:58] <Eickmeyer> Seems extremely useful and something I'd forget easily.
[23:59]  * OvenWerks has a file with just that command line in ~/Documents/Audio/ :)