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lubot<HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 in sid tehre is already nm-tray 0.4.2, why we are behind with 0.4.1?00:45
lubot<HMollerCl> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nm-tray00:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#120901:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa414aff7f2d2: Add example on how to change theme field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa414aff7f2d201:05
guiverci think I just made a boo-boo, where should lximage-qt bugs go (upstream)?08:36
guiverc:)  I think i'm okay  (filed upstream on lxqt ; i'm wondering if it should be filed on lximage-qt elsewhere on github etc) - yell at me if I screwed up though (so I learn)08:38
lubot<kc2bez> lximage-qt is part of LXQt so they should be able to sort it out.08:41
lubot<kc2bez> If not they will let you know.08:43
guivercmerci/danke/thanks kc2bez :)08:49
lubot<aptghetto> chris It is a good bug report, great work.08:49
guiverc:) aptghetto, if only they were all like it!08:50
lubot<aptghetto> But maybe there is another bug hidden in your report. The output of `lxqt-about` shows Qt in version 5.11.3, but as far as I know, we should have Qt in version 5.12.2 in 19.1008:51
guivercaptghetto:  i got that from this (my primary) system, but it reports the same on today's daily 08:52
lubot<aptghetto> I see the same output on my 19.1008:53
lubot<aptghetto> But `dpkg -l | grep '5.11.3'` doesn't find any package08:53
lubot<aptghetto> Unfortunately I don't have time this month to dig deeper into this08:55
lubot<acheronuk> It was built with Qt 5.11.309:00
lubot* acheronuk wonders if its daft enough to report that way?09:01
lubot<acheronuk> ok. it uses qversion(), so should return the runtime Qt version09:13
lubot<acheronuk> (Photo, 691x487) https://i.imgur.com/dwbigXb.jpg10:09
lubot<HMollerCl> does someone has a look at this https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756 it's beyond my understanding, but I remember the problems we have with trus in our live-version for the installer.14:22
lubot<kc2bez> Metadata needs to be set to trusted not trust. We carry a patch to conform to the Ubuntu standard.14:24
lubot<HMollerCl> maybe you could add a commento to that discussion.14:58
lubot<HMollerCl> chris where did you put the bug for lximage-qt? I didn't found it here https://github.com/lxqt/lximage-qt/issues15:00
apt-ghetto@HMollerCL https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/172015:02
ubot93Issue 1720 in lxqt/lxqt "lximage-qt drawings not always visible" [Open]15:02
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks!115:03
lubot* HMollerCl wondering what PR means (I really don't think is Public Relations)15:07
lubot<kc2bez> pull request15:07
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks!15:07
lubot<kc2bez> If I get a chance later I will try to come up with a constructive comment to the metadata discussion.15:10
wxl@HMollerCl that's a good question about us being behind debian on nm-tray. do explain to all of us briefly how this works, @tsimonq2 (without using any links)17:41
wxlrif17:41
wxloops17:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [/me wondering what PR means (I really don't think is Public Relations)], Public relations departments are fun tho.17:54
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks wxl19:48
wxlwhat did i do, @kc2bez? :)19:49
lubot<kc2bez> You made a reply on the LXQt forum. I had a plan to do that this evening. I like your wording better than what was running through my mind.19:50
wxlah, cool :)19:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe9: Add Sddm configuration to save in non-home requires root reminder] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe920:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL052e49d8b3f7: Add note saying hiding messages may result in confusion or talking to empty…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL052e49d8b3f720:52
lubot<HMollerCl> the meeting is now or in 1 hour?20:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [the meeting is now or in 1 hour?], Three mins20:57
tsimonq2!standup21:02
ubot93@tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call!21:02
tsimonq2Hi!21:02
tsimonq2Who's here?21:02
lynorianI am here21:02
kc2bezo/21:02
lynorian\o21:02
tsimonq2I'll go first.21:03
tsimonq2I've been really out of the loop because of crazy school stuff.21:03
tsimonq2I'm back as of today-ish, Monday for sure.21:04
tsimonq2Next week from Thursday (13th) to Sunday (16th) I'll be in Charlotte, NC for SELF21:04
tsimonq2Today I started something from a discussion I had at LFNW, which is mirroring all of our repos on Launchpad as well.21:04
tsimonq2I created https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-code and a corresponding team to track that.21:05
tsimonq2I couldn't do ~lubuntu-dev directly because now that it's an uploading team, Lugito can't be in there.21:05
lynorianincluding the manual21:05
tsimonq2Right, I'm still manually importing everything.21:05
tsimonq2I'm catching up; if anyone sees something I should look at really soon, let me know.21:06
lubot<HMollerCl> o/21:06
tsimonq2Otherwise, gonrats to apt-ghetto for becoming a Lubuntu Member!21:06
tsimonq2*congrats21:06
lynorianmore mirrors is good in my opinion 21:06
tsimonq2lynorian: For sure.21:06
tsimonq2Oh, and one more thing.21:06
kc2bez\o/21:06
kc2bezCongrats21:06
lubot<HMollerCl> congrats @aptghetto21:07
tsimonq2The TB decided today that ~lubuntu-dev (and other flavor uploading teams) have to expire at least every six months.21:07
tsimonq2That only applies to wxl though, so XD21:07
lynorianbut has the automated renewal process at least21:07
tsimonq2That's about it for me. The last few weeks I've been torturing myself by running RHEL 8 on my machine, but since I've been relying a LOT on my Lubuntu VM, I plan on fully reinstalling.21:08
tsimonq2I'm playing with Ansible, it's fun.21:08
tsimonq2lynorian: Yeah.21:08
tsimonq2Currently the Lubuntu Members process is manual.21:08
tsimonq2In order to renew Lubuntu Membership, we have to just spot check you to make sure you're still active.21:08
tsimonq2Otherwise, that's about it for me. As I become more active again, I'll start pre-prepping this.21:09
tsimonq2I think lynorian got here next?21:09
lynorianok I added many more things to the manual21:10
lynorianHow to start the compton compositor just once 21:10
lynorianAdded more screenshots to the session settings21:10
lynorianI added screen blanking fade time to xscreensaver21:11
lynorianadded more toolbar customization to muon21:12
lynorianadded keyboard shortcuts to quit most of the prefrences21:12
lynorianadded customization section to scanlite21:13
lynorianalso in appendix C for how to search through man pages21:13
lynorianHow to spell check in quassel21:14
lynorianhiding join/parts/quits in quassel21:14
lynorianclarified more on changing themese and background images for sddm configuration21:14
lynorianthat is it for me21:15
tsimonq2Thanks for your work, lynorian!21:17
tsimonq2kc2bez?21:17
kc2bezWork life has been dragging me down a bit21:17
kc2bezThat and activities for my kids21:18
tsimonq2Ah, understandable :)21:18
kc2bezgood news sports for the kids has ended and I have some time off from work early next week21:18
kc2bezI plan to devote some time21:18
kc2bezquestion21:18
kc2bezbug 182980521:19
ubot93Bug 1829805 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182980521:19
tsimonq2(Moving to Telegram in about a minute, since class stats in 10 minutes.)21:19
kc2bezhas anyone else had a chance to look at it?21:19
tsimonq2Ooh, is that a Linux bug?21:19
tsimonq2Niiice.21:19
kc2bezerr or not21:20
tsimonq2I can't reproduce it here for sure, because I use my Lubuntu VM constantly.21:20
kc2bezneeds to be a frsh install21:20
kc2bezfresh21:20
tsimonq2ahh21:20
tsimonq2I'll take a look this weekend.21:20
kc2bezok every install I have tried has failed21:20
kc2bezeven on hardware21:21
kc2bezthat is pretty much from me21:22
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks!21:22
lubot<tsimonq2> Keep up the good work21:22
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl?21:22
lubot<HMollerCl> ok21:22
lubot<HMollerCl> on the taskbar icon of nm-tray, today palinek merged the solution21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.21:23
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.], Merge from Sid and then include the patch21:24
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, will try to do that.21:24
lubot<tsimonq2> I can write some docs for that21:24
lubot<tsimonq2> Not everyone can visualize it21:24
lubot<HMollerCl> on update-notifier, it's on phab repositories waiting to be packaged.21:25
lubot<tsimonq2> Sweet21:25
kc2bezAwesome Hans!21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> I just found out that there is a problem with autostart for userda that are not sudo, because pop-up wil pop and if they click upgrade will ask for sudo, so, need to fix that.21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> but I don't know how to hanlde it because i think xdg can't discriminate that21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone want's to code it. But I still believe that the short term solution  should be to use nm-connection-editor disabling nm-applet.21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> that's on my side.21:28
lubot<tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2921:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Native nm-tray connection editor: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2921:28
lubot<tsimonq2> aha21:28
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone w …], Would you be able to figure out a solution in which we would be able to trigger the GNOME config while still using the Qt panel applet?21:29
lubot<tsimonq2> I believe it could be possible21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, that should be easy21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok. Please play with it and report back if you get the chance :)21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Anything else21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> *else?21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> nope, that's it21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> EOF21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Sweet, thanks!21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Does anyone else want to go?21:30
lubot<tsimonq2> If not, I'd be curious to see if anyone knows how Discourse has been going21:31
lubot<tsimonq2> I haven't done a lot with it in the last week or two21:31
lubot<kc2bez> I think it is going well. Wxl is very on top of it.21:32
lubot<kc2bez> I read everything after he replies :P21:32
lubot<tsimonq2> Sweet!21:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks :P21:35
lubot<tsimonq2> Ttyl21:35
wxlvery on top of it except for this meeting21:35
wxli'm here, though21:35
wxlmy recent stuff:21:35
wxl   * Added information from the old GRUB theme task to the new one https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#119621:35
wxl   * Made a task to fix our archiver, specifically around DND https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8321:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#119621:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] fix archiver: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8321:35
wxlalso made a comment, mostly for posterity's sake, about the metadata::trust(ed) business on the lxqt forum https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756/34?u=wxl21:36
wxloh we don't have chris in the factoid21:37
lubot<kc2bez> He filed an upstream bug for lximage-qt21:38
wxl!standup21:40
ubot93@tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call!21:40
wxlugh oh yeah it takes a while to get to ubot9321:40
lubot<HMollerCl> for using gnome coneection editor, we need to change this config file https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/patches/generalize-terminal-for-edits.patch21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> my only problem now is how to disable nm-applet from autostart.21:43
wxlisn't there a .desktop file option for that?21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> yes it is in the network-manager-gnome package, but I don't know how to blacklist it21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> I mena, only the .desktop21:44
wxlthis might be helpful https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html21:46
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, I understand that, the thing is that then we would need to build our own network-manager-gnome modifying the nm-applet.desktop21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> (which will be in autostart)21:52
wxlmaybe one in lubuntu-default-settings21:52
wxlthat goes to home21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> sorry, I don't get it. network-manager-gnome puts nm-applet-desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart how can that be removed or modfied with lubuntu-default-settings?21:57
wxlit can't but ones in $HOME take precedence21:57
wxli.e. there could be two, but the one in $HOME would win21:57
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, so we had to had a dummy nm-applet.desktop in $HOME21:58
lubot<HMollerCl> with Hidden=true that works22:00
wxldoes that remove it from the menu? do we care?22:12
lubot<HMollerCl> no it doesn't22:18
wxlcool22:19
lubot<HMollerCl> Actually that's exactly the way it is done when you disable autostart manually22:29
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> !standup], Dude, we did that already :)23:11
wxlyou didn't read the context before it, dorko23:11
wxl!standup23:11
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.23:12
wxlthere, fixed23:12
lubot<kc2bez> @tsimonq2 [Dude, we did that already :)], But he has so much fun with it. :P23:18
lubot<tsimonq2> 😆23:18

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