[00:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 in sid tehre is already nm-tray 0.4.2, why we are behind with 0.4.1?
[00:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nm-tray
[01:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1209
[01:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa414aff7f2d2: Add example on how to change theme field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa414aff7f2d2
[08:36] <guiverc> i think I just made a boo-boo, where should lximage-qt bugs go (upstream)?
[08:38] <guiverc> :)  I think i'm okay  (filed upstream on lxqt ; i'm wondering if it should be filed on lximage-qt elsewhere on github etc) - yell at me if I screwed up though (so I learn)
[08:41] <lubot> <kc2bez> lximage-qt is part of LXQt so they should be able to sort it out.
[08:43] <lubot> <kc2bez> If not they will let you know.
[08:49] <guiverc> merci/danke/thanks kc2bez :)
[08:49] <lubot> <aptghetto> chris It is a good bug report, great work.
[08:50] <guiverc> :) aptghetto, if only they were all like it!
[08:51] <lubot> <aptghetto> But maybe there is another bug hidden in your report. The output of `lxqt-about` shows Qt in version 5.11.3, but as far as I know, we should have Qt in version 5.12.2 in 19.10
[08:52] <guiverc> aptghetto:  i got that from this (my primary) system, but it reports the same on today's daily 
[08:53] <lubot> <aptghetto> I see the same output on my 19.10
[08:53] <lubot> <aptghetto> But `dpkg -l | grep '5.11.3'` doesn't find any package
[08:55] <lubot> <aptghetto> Unfortunately I don't have time this month to dig deeper into this
[09:00] <lubot> <acheronuk> It was built with Qt 5.11.3
[09:01] <lubot> * acheronuk wonders if its daft enough to report that way?
[09:13] <lubot> <acheronuk> ok. it uses qversion(), so should return the runtime Qt version
[10:09] <lubot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 691x487) https://i.imgur.com/dwbigXb.jpg
[14:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> does someone has a look at this https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756 it's beyond my understanding, but I remember the problems we have with trus in our live-version for the installer.
[14:24] <lubot> <kc2bez> Metadata needs to be set to trusted not trust. We carry a patch to conform to the Ubuntu standard.
[14:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> maybe you could add a commento to that discussion.
[15:00] <lubot> <HMollerCl> chris where did you put the bug for lximage-qt? I didn't found it here https://github.com/lxqt/lximage-qt/issues
[15:02] <apt-ghetto> @HMollerCL https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1720
[15:02] <ubot93> Issue 1720 in lxqt/lxqt "lximage-qt drawings not always visible" [Open]
[15:03] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!1
[15:07] <lubot> * HMollerCl wondering what PR means (I really don't think is Public Relations)
[15:07] <lubot> <kc2bez> pull request
[15:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!
[15:10] <lubot> <kc2bez> If I get a chance later I will try to come up with a constructive comment to the metadata discussion.
[17:41] <wxl> @HMollerCl that's a good question about us being behind debian on nm-tray. do explain to all of us briefly how this works, @tsimonq2 (without using any links)
[17:41] <wxl> rif
[17:41] <wxl> oops
[17:54] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [/me wondering what PR means (I really don't think is Public Relations)], Public relations departments are fun tho.
[19:48] <lubot> <kc2bez> Thanks wxl
[19:49] <wxl> what did i do, @kc2bez? :)
[19:50] <lubot> <kc2bez> You made a reply on the LXQt forum. I had a plan to do that this evening. I like your wording better than what was running through my mind.
[19:50] <wxl> ah, cool :)
[20:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe9: Add Sddm configuration to save in non-home requires root reminder] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe9
[20:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL052e49d8b3f7: Add note saying hiding messages may result in confusion or talking to empty…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL052e49d8b3f7
[20:56] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the meeting is now or in 1 hour?
[20:57] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [the meeting is now or in 1 hour?], Three mins
[21:02] <tsimonq2> !standup
[21:02] <ubot93> @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call!
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Hi!
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Who's here?
[21:02] <lynorian> I am here
[21:02] <kc2bez> o/
[21:02] <lynorian> \o
[21:03] <tsimonq2> I'll go first.
[21:03] <tsimonq2> I've been really out of the loop because of crazy school stuff.
[21:04] <tsimonq2> I'm back as of today-ish, Monday for sure.
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Next week from Thursday (13th) to Sunday (16th) I'll be in Charlotte, NC for SELF
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Today I started something from a discussion I had at LFNW, which is mirroring all of our repos on Launchpad as well.
[21:05] <tsimonq2> I created https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-code and a corresponding team to track that.
[21:05] <tsimonq2> I couldn't do ~lubuntu-dev directly because now that it's an uploading team, Lugito can't be in there.
[21:05] <lynorian> including the manual
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Right, I'm still manually importing everything.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> I'm catching up; if anyone sees something I should look at really soon, let me know.
[21:06] <lubot> <HMollerCl> o/
[21:06] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, gonrats to apt-ghetto for becoming a Lubuntu Member!
[21:06] <tsimonq2> *congrats
[21:06] <lynorian> more mirrors is good in my opinion 
[21:06] <tsimonq2> lynorian: For sure.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> Oh, and one more thing.
[21:06] <kc2bez> \o/
[21:06] <kc2bez> Congrats
[21:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> congrats @aptghetto
[21:07] <tsimonq2> The TB decided today that ~lubuntu-dev (and other flavor uploading teams) have to expire at least every six months.
[21:07] <tsimonq2> That only applies to wxl though, so XD
[21:07] <lynorian> but has the automated renewal process at least
[21:08] <tsimonq2> That's about it for me. The last few weeks I've been torturing myself by running RHEL 8 on my machine, but since I've been relying a LOT on my Lubuntu VM, I plan on fully reinstalling.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> I'm playing with Ansible, it's fun.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Yeah.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> Currently the Lubuntu Members process is manual.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> In order to renew Lubuntu Membership, we have to just spot check you to make sure you're still active.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, that's about it for me. As I become more active again, I'll start pre-prepping this.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> I think lynorian got here next?
[21:10] <lynorian> ok I added many more things to the manual
[21:10] <lynorian> How to start the compton compositor just once 
[21:10] <lynorian> Added more screenshots to the session settings
[21:11] <lynorian> I added screen blanking fade time to xscreensaver
[21:12] <lynorian> added more toolbar customization to muon
[21:12] <lynorian> added keyboard shortcuts to quit most of the prefrences
[21:13] <lynorian> added customization section to scanlite
[21:13] <lynorian> also in appendix C for how to search through man pages
[21:14] <lynorian> How to spell check in quassel
[21:14] <lynorian> hiding join/parts/quits in quassel
[21:14] <lynorian> clarified more on changing themese and background images for sddm configuration
[21:15] <lynorian> that is it for me
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Thanks for your work, lynorian!
[21:17] <tsimonq2> kc2bez?
[21:17] <kc2bez> Work life has been dragging me down a bit
[21:18] <kc2bez> That and activities for my kids
[21:18] <tsimonq2> Ah, understandable :)
[21:18] <kc2bez> good news sports for the kids has ended and I have some time off from work early next week
[21:18] <kc2bez> I plan to devote some time
[21:18] <kc2bez> question
[21:19] <kc2bez> bug 1829805
[21:19] <ubot93> Bug 1829805 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829805
[21:19] <tsimonq2> (Moving to Telegram in about a minute, since class stats in 10 minutes.)
[21:19] <kc2bez> has anyone else had a chance to look at it?
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Ooh, is that a Linux bug?
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Niiice.
[21:20] <kc2bez> err or not
[21:20] <tsimonq2> I can't reproduce it here for sure, because I use my Lubuntu VM constantly.
[21:20] <kc2bez> needs to be a frsh install
[21:20] <kc2bez> fresh
[21:20] <tsimonq2> ahh
[21:20] <tsimonq2> I'll take a look this weekend.
[21:20] <kc2bez> ok every install I have tried has failed
[21:21] <kc2bez> even on hardware
[21:22] <kc2bez> that is pretty much from me
[21:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[21:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Keep up the good work
[21:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl?
[21:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok
[21:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> on the taskbar icon of nm-tray, today palinek merged the solution
[21:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.
[21:24] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.], Merge from Sid and then include the patch
[21:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok, will try to do that.
[21:24] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I can write some docs for that
[21:24] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Not everyone can visualize it
[21:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> on update-notifier, it's on phab repositories waiting to be packaged.
[21:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Sweet
[21:25] <kc2bez> Awesome Hans!
[21:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I just found out that there is a problem with autostart for userda that are not sudo, because pop-up wil pop and if they click upgrade will ask for sudo, so, need to fix that.
[21:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but I don't know how to hanlde it because i think xdg can't discriminate that
[21:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone want's to code it. But I still believe that the short term solution  should be to use nm-connection-editor disabling nm-applet.
[21:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that's on my side.
[21:28] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29
[21:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Native nm-tray connection editor: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29
[21:28] <lubot> <tsimonq2> aha
[21:29] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone w …], Would you be able to figure out a solution in which we would be able to trigger the GNOME config while still using the Qt panel applet?
[21:29] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I believe it could be possible
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes, that should be easy
[21:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ok. Please play with it and report back if you get the chance :)
[21:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Anything else
[21:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> *else?
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> nope, that's it
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> EOF
[21:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Sweet, thanks!
[21:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Does anyone else want to go?
[21:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> If not, I'd be curious to see if anyone knows how Discourse has been going
[21:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I haven't done a lot with it in the last week or two
[21:32] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think it is going well. Wxl is very on top of it.
[21:32] <lubot> <kc2bez> I read everything after he replies :P
[21:34] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Sweet!
[21:35] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks :P
[21:35] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ttyl
[21:35] <wxl> very on top of it except for this meeting
[21:35] <wxl> i'm here, though
[21:35] <wxl> my recent stuff:
[21:35] <wxl>    * Added information from the old GRUB theme task to the new one https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1196
[21:35] <wxl>    * Made a task to fix our archiver, specifically around DND https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1196
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] fix archiver: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:36] <wxl> also made a comment, mostly for posterity's sake, about the metadata::trust(ed) business on the lxqt forum https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756/34?u=wxl
[21:37] <wxl> oh we don't have chris in the factoid
[21:38] <lubot> <kc2bez> He filed an upstream bug for lximage-qt
[21:40] <wxl> !standup
[21:40] <ubot93> @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call!
[21:40] <wxl> ugh oh yeah it takes a while to get to ubot93
[21:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> for using gnome coneection editor, we need to change this config file https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/patches/generalize-terminal-for-edits.patch
[21:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> my only problem now is how to disable nm-applet from autostart.
[21:43] <wxl> isn't there a .desktop file option for that?
[21:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes it is in the network-manager-gnome package, but I don't know how to blacklist it
[21:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mena, only the .desktop
[21:46] <wxl> this might be helpful https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
[21:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes, I understand that, the thing is that then we would need to build our own network-manager-gnome modifying the nm-applet.desktop
[21:52] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (which will be in autostart)
[21:52] <wxl> maybe one in lubuntu-default-settings
[21:53] <wxl> that goes to home
[21:57] <lubot> <HMollerCl> sorry, I don't get it. network-manager-gnome puts nm-applet-desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart how can that be removed or modfied with lubuntu-default-settings?
[21:57] <wxl> it can't but ones in $HOME take precedence
[21:57] <wxl> i.e. there could be two, but the one in $HOME would win
[21:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok, so we had to had a dummy nm-applet.desktop in $HOME
[22:00] <lubot> <HMollerCl> with Hidden=true that works
[22:12] <wxl> does that remove it from the menu? do we care?
[22:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> no it doesn't
[22:19] <wxl> cool
[22:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Actually that's exactly the way it is done when you disable autostart manually
[23:11] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> !standup], Dude, we did that already :)
[23:11] <wxl> you didn't read the context before it, dorko
[23:11] <wxl> !standup
[23:12] <ubot93> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.
[23:12] <wxl> there, fixed
[23:18] <lubot> <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 [Dude, we did that already :)], But he has so much fun with it. :P
[23:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> 😆