 wxl @tsimonq2 in sid tehre is already nm-tray 0.4.2, why we are behind with 0.4.1?
 https://packages.debian.org/sid/nm-tray
[01:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1209
[01:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa414aff7f2d2: Add example on how to change theme field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa414aff7f2d2
[08:36] <guiverc> i think I just made a boo-boo, where should lximage-qt bugs go (upstream)?
[08:38] <guiverc> :)  I think i'm okay  (filed upstream on lxqt ; i'm wondering if it should be filed on lximage-qt elsewhere on github etc) - yell at me if I screwed up though (so I learn)
 lximage-qt is part of LXQt so they should be able to sort it out.
 If not they will let you know.
[08:49] <guiverc> merci/danke/thanks kc2bez :)
 chris It is a good bug report, great work.
[08:50] <guiverc> :) aptghetto, if only they were all like it!
 But maybe there is another bug hidden in your report. The output of `lxqt-about` shows Qt in version 5.11.3, but as far as I know, we should have Qt in version 5.12.2 in 19.10
[08:52] <guiverc> aptghetto:  i got that from this (my primary) system, but it reports the same on today's daily 
 I see the same output on my 19.10
 But `dpkg -l | grep '5.11.3'` doesn't find any package
 Unfortunately I don't have time this month to dig deeper into this
 It was built with Qt 5.11.3
 ok. it uses qversion(), so should return the runtime Qt version
 (Photo, 691x487) https://i.imgur.com/dwbigXb.jpg
 does someone has a look at this https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756 it's beyond my understanding, but I remember the problems we have with trus in our live-version for the installer.
 Metadata needs to be set to trusted not trust. We carry a patch to conform to the Ubuntu standard.
 maybe you could add a commento to that discussion.
 chris where did you put the bug for lximage-qt? I didn't found it here https://github.com/lxqt/lximage-qt/issues
[15:02] <apt-ghetto> @HMollerCL https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1720
 thanks!1
 pull request
 thanks!
 If I get a chance later I will try to come up with a constructive comment to the metadata discussion.
[17:41] <wxl> @HMollerCl that's a good question about us being behind debian on nm-tray. do explain to all of us briefly how this works, @tsimonq2 (without using any links)
[17:41] <wxl> rif
[17:41] <wxl> oops
 @HMollerCl [/me wondering what PR means (I really don't think is Public Relations)], Public relations departments are fun tho.
 Thanks wxl
[19:49] <wxl> what did i do, @kc2bez? :)
 You made a reply on the LXQt forum. I had a plan to do that this evening. I like your wording better than what was running through my mind.
[19:50] <wxl> ah, cool :)
[20:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe9: Add Sddm configuration to save in non-home requires root reminder] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaf1acbd2dbe9
[20:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL052e49d8b3f7: Add note saying hiding messages may result in confusion or talking to empty…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL052e49d8b3f7
 the meeting is now or in 1 hour?
 @HMollerCl [the meeting is now or in 1 hour?], Three mins
[21:02] <tsimonq2> !standup
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Hi!
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Who's here?
[21:02] <lynorian> I am here
[21:02] <kc2bez> o/
[21:02] <lynorian> \o
[21:03] <tsimonq2> I'll go first.
[21:03] <tsimonq2> I've been really out of the loop because of crazy school stuff.
[21:04] <tsimonq2> I'm back as of today-ish, Monday for sure.
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Next week from Thursday (13th) to Sunday (16th) I'll be in Charlotte, NC for SELF
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Today I started something from a discussion I had at LFNW, which is mirroring all of our repos on Launchpad as well.
[21:05] <tsimonq2> I created https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-code and a corresponding team to track that.
[21:05] <tsimonq2> I couldn't do ~lubuntu-dev directly because now that it's an uploading team, Lugito can't be in there.
[21:05] <lynorian> including the manual
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Right, I'm still manually importing everything.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> I'm catching up; if anyone sees something I should look at really soon, let me know.
 o/
[21:06] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, gonrats to apt-ghetto for becoming a Lubuntu Member!
[21:06] <tsimonq2> *congrats
[21:06] <lynorian> more mirrors is good in my opinion 
[21:06] <tsimonq2> lynorian: For sure.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> Oh, and one more thing.
[21:06] <kc2bez> \o/
[21:06] <kc2bez> Congrats
 congrats @aptghetto
[21:07] <tsimonq2> The TB decided today that ~lubuntu-dev (and other flavor uploading teams) have to expire at least every six months.
[21:07] <tsimonq2> That only applies to wxl though, so XD
[21:07] <lynorian> but has the automated renewal process at least
[21:08] <tsimonq2> That's about it for me. The last few weeks I've been torturing myself by running RHEL 8 on my machine, but since I've been relying a LOT on my Lubuntu VM, I plan on fully reinstalling.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> I'm playing with Ansible, it's fun.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Yeah.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> Currently the Lubuntu Members process is manual.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> In order to renew Lubuntu Membership, we have to just spot check you to make sure you're still active.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, that's about it for me. As I become more active again, I'll start pre-prepping this.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> I think lynorian got here next?
[21:10] <lynorian> ok I added many more things to the manual
[21:10] <lynorian> How to start the compton compositor just once 
[21:10] <lynorian> Added more screenshots to the session settings
[21:11] <lynorian> I added screen blanking fade time to xscreensaver
[21:12] <lynorian> added more toolbar customization to muon
[21:12] <lynorian> added keyboard shortcuts to quit most of the prefrences
[21:13] <lynorian> added customization section to scanlite
[21:13] <lynorian> also in appendix C for how to search through man pages
[21:14] <lynorian> How to spell check in quassel
[21:14] <lynorian> hiding join/parts/quits in quassel
[21:14] <lynorian> clarified more on changing themese and background images for sddm configuration
[21:15] <lynorian> that is it for me
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Thanks for your work, lynorian!
[21:17] <tsimonq2> kc2bez?
[21:17] <kc2bez> Work life has been dragging me down a bit
[21:18] <kc2bez> That and activities for my kids
[21:18] <tsimonq2> Ah, understandable :)
[21:18] <kc2bez> good news sports for the kids has ended and I have some time off from work early next week
[21:18] <kc2bez> I plan to devote some time
[21:18] <kc2bez> question
[21:19] <kc2bez> bug 1829805
[21:19] <tsimonq2> (Moving to Telegram in about a minute, since class stats in 10 minutes.)
[21:19] <kc2bez> has anyone else had a chance to look at it?
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Ooh, is that a Linux bug?
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Niiice.
[21:20] <kc2bez> err or not
[21:20] <tsimonq2> I can't reproduce it here for sure, because I use my Lubuntu VM constantly.
[21:20] <kc2bez> needs to be a frsh install
[21:20] <kc2bez> fresh
[21:20] <tsimonq2> ahh
[21:20] <tsimonq2> I'll take a look this weekend.
[21:20] <kc2bez> ok every install I have tried has failed
[21:21] <kc2bez> even on hardware
[21:22] <kc2bez> that is pretty much from me
 Thanks!
 Keep up the good work
 @HMollerCl?
 ok
 on the taskbar icon of nm-tray, today palinek merged the solution
 since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.
 @HMollerCl [since we are behind sid, I don't know how should we proceed on packaging it.], Merge from Sid and then include the patch
 ok, will try to do that.
 I can write some docs for that
 Not everyone can visualize it
 on update-notifier, it's on phab repositories waiting to be packaged.
 Sweet
[21:25] <kc2bez> Awesome Hans!
 I just found out that there is a problem with autostart for userda that are not sudo, because pop-up wil pop and if they click upgrade will ask for sudo, so, need to fix that.
 but I don't know how to hanlde it because i think xdg can't discriminate that
 and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone want's to code it. But I still believe that the short term solution  should be to use nm-connection-editor disabling nm-applet.
 that's on my side.
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29
[21:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Native nm-tray connection editor: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29
 aha
 @HMollerCl [and finally on task 29, I added info of pyhton3-networkmanager in case someone w …], Would you be able to figure out a solution in which we would be able to trigger the GNOME config while still using the Qt panel applet?
 I believe it could be possible
 yes, that should be easy
 Ok. Please play with it and report back if you get the chance :)
 Anything else
 *else?
 nope, that's it
 EOF
 Sweet, thanks!
 Does anyone else want to go?
 If not, I'd be curious to see if anyone knows how Discourse has been going
 I haven't done a lot with it in the last week or two
 I think it is going well. Wxl is very on top of it.
 I read everything after he replies :P
 Sweet!
 Thanks :P
 Ttyl
[21:35] <wxl> very on top of it except for this meeting
[21:35] <wxl> i'm here, though
[21:35] <wxl> my recent stuff:
[21:35] <wxl>    * Added information from the old GRUB theme task to the new one https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1196
[21:35] <wxl>    * Made a task to fix our archiver, specifically around DND https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1196
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] fix archiver: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:36] <wxl> also made a comment, mostly for posterity's sake, about the metadata::trust(ed) business on the lxqt forum https://forum.lxqt.org/t/offline-remotely-changing-trust-of-desktop-file/756/34?u=wxl
[21:37] <wxl> oh we don't have chris in the factoid
 He filed an upstream bug for lximage-qt
[21:40] <wxl> !standup
[21:40] <wxl> ugh oh yeah it takes a while to get to ubot93
 for using gnome coneection editor, we need to change this config file https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/patches/generalize-terminal-for-edits.patch
 my only problem now is how to disable nm-applet from autostart.
[21:43] <wxl> isn't there a .desktop file option for that?
 yes it is in the network-manager-gnome package, but I don't know how to blacklist it
 I mena, only the .desktop
[21:46] <wxl> this might be helpful https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
 yes, I understand that, the thing is that then we would need to build our own network-manager-gnome modifying the nm-applet.desktop
 (which will be in autostart)
[21:52] <wxl> maybe one in lubuntu-default-settings
[21:53] <wxl> that goes to home
 sorry, I don't get it. network-manager-gnome puts nm-applet-desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart how can that be removed or modfied with lubuntu-default-settings?
[21:57] <wxl> it can't but ones in $HOME take precedence
[21:57] <wxl> i.e. there could be two, but the one in $HOME would win
 ok, so we had to had a dummy nm-applet.desktop in $HOME
 with Hidden=true that works
[22:12] <wxl> does that remove it from the menu? do we care?
 no it doesn't
[22:19] <wxl> cool
 Actually that's exactly the way it is done when you disable autostart manually
 @wxl [<wxl> !standup], Dude, we did that already :)
[23:11] <wxl> you didn't read the context before it, dorko
[23:11] <wxl> !standup
[23:12] <wxl> there, fixed
 @tsimonq2 [Dude, we did that already :)], But he has so much fun with it. :P
 😆