[02:38] <sappheiros> I think it's amazing that you're able to make an OS for a 32-bit 12y old laptop run just as well as macOS High Sierra runs on a 64-bit 9 y old laptop ...
[02:38] <sappheiros> so i'm kinda sad support for 32-bit has ended
 @sappheiros [<sappheiros> so i'm kinda sad support for 32-bit has ended], Same here.
 tough decision, but it was very complicated to maintain a 32bit distro since no other ubuntu flavour was maintining it.
[15:21] <HEX0> hello
[15:21] <HEX0> Is LXDE going to be deprecated or is it actively developed?
[15:24] <teward> LXDE development to my knowledge has 'halted' in regards of Lubuntu supporting it, LXQT is the new focus
[15:24] <teward> at least, from my hearing from @wxl and @tsimonq2
 Correct
 Lubuntu uses networkmanager right?
[16:26] <teward> @plyr0: to my knowledge, but @tsimonq2 would be able to shed light on it better
 Is there only the cli menu based interface for managing network connections? (19.04)
[16:40] <lynorian> plyr0 nm-tray
 It's very basic. Is there any plans for a gui in 19.10? #featurerequest
[16:47] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29
 @plyr0 [It's very basic. Is there any plans for a gui in 19.10? #featurerequest], you can install network-manager-gnome and use nm-connection-editor
 and you should disable nm-applet from autostart
 @HMollerCl [you can install network-manager-gnome and use nm-connection-editor], Ok thank you
 So lxqt does not have a gui for networkmanager?
 I dont have much knowledge. Is that even how it works? Network manager is the daemon that does everything and DEs provide interface to user
 @plyr0 [I dont have much knowledge. Is that even how it works? Network manager is the da …], In simple: in lubuntu network-manager handles low level and nm-tray is the tray icon, we chose nm-tray since it is qt and not gtk. Thre isn't a qt network-connection-editor that's why nm-tray uses cli.
 network-manager-gnome has nm-applet (tray icon) and nm-connection-editor but it is tgk. There exist connman that has cmst that is qt and gui but i thakes more memory than nm-applet.
 @HMollerCl [In simple: in lubuntu network-manager handles low level and nm-tray is the tray …], Ah okay
 Manjaro lxqt has a nice connection editor. But dont know if it is gtk or qt. Will have to look more into it. If it is qt maybe lubuntu can use it as well?
 @plyr0 [Manjaro lxqt has a nice connection editor. But dont know if it is gtk or qt. Wil …], I believe that they use, conmann+cmst, that consumes more memory. you can install them inf you want.  … sudo apt install connman cmst
 but it consumes more memory than nm-tray or nm-applet
[20:50] <PDexter> nabend
[21:04] <PDexter> Hello
 Hi
 !ask
[21:06] <PDexter> our lubuntu view no panel
[21:07] <PDexter> i have not direct access i make only phone support what can we do
 which version?
[21:07] <kc2bez> Which version of Lubuntu?
[21:08] <PDexter> 15.04
[21:08] <PDexter> i try to killall lxpanel
 wow! that's old.
[21:09] <kc2bez> 15.04 is no longer supported
[21:09] <PDexter> and then
[21:09] <PDexter> lxpanel --profile Lubuntu &
[21:11] <PDexter> it an old latitude c640 for play music on outdoor parties
 did you try $lxpanelctl --restart
 ?
[21:11] <PDexter> no
[21:11] <PDexter> we will try
 besides that I don't know what else to do, is to old (more than 5 years old)
[21:13] <kc2bez> An upgrade to 18.04 would get the ability to keep packages up to date.
 I would update to 18.04.- which still is lxde.
[21:14] <PDexter> play music and to make drunk people happy in raining weather it is enough
[21:18] <antis> HMollerCI: In 18.04 you actually can install lxqt (few manual tweaks required). Not the latest version, but stable. If "stability" is not too much of an issue you can even go with more recent 19.04.
 antis: yes
 teh thing is that migrating from an lxde version to a lxqt one can be painfull
[21:22] <PDexter> the problem is i have no direct access to the faulty notebook.....because i am not in the forrest where the party is ongoing
 restarting the notebook doesn't solve the issu?
[21:23] <PDexter> no
 I'm on lxqt now, so don't even remember how lxpanel was launched. but tyou could ask the to laucnh manually and see the output.
 maybe this can help https://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[21:28] <PDexter> lxpanelctl --restart doesn´t help
[21:31] <kc2bez> Do you get any errors if you open a terminal and type lxpanel ?
[21:31] <PDexter> now they switched to an mobile phone as source......they want drink :-')
[21:39] <PDexter> http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=200318
[21:39] <PDexter> pictures from the problem
 have you tried this?:
 cp /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/panels/panel ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels … lxpanelctl restart
 that will copy the default panel config
 and restart
 (depends on version can be —restart or resrtart alone)
 <OT>was soll "Reiter" bedeuten? Mein Deustch hat nich so viel Computer Kentnisse.</OT>
[22:26] <PDexter> new tab i think
[22:27] <PDexter> i will try this tommorrow
[22:31] <PDexter> Thank you
[23:59] <antis_> PDexter: Remember to "Alt+F2" next time! Starts programs just like that - no need for lxpanel… :)