[01:56] <duflu> robert_ancell, could you explain to people in bug 1825544 what's happened?
[01:56] <ubot5> bug 1825544 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Switch User menu item gone after upgrade to Ubuntu 19.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825544
[03:06] <robert_ancell> duflu, I don't know of anything that might be causing that!?
[03:07] <duflu> robert_ancell, I thought user switching was intentionally removed?
[03:07] <robert_ancell> duflu, no, that still shows if you click your name in the top-right menu.
[03:07] <duflu> Oh, guest mode. I am confused
[03:10] <duflu> robert_ancell, It's guest mode we knowingly can't support right now, right?
[03:10] <robert_ancell> duflu, correct
[03:10] <robert_ancell> the other removed option was a suspend menu entry
[03:12] <duflu> Suspend? You can still hold down the power button in the GUI right?
[03:12] <duflu> Yes, confirmed
[04:55] <didrocks> good morning
[05:17] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[05:23] <didrocks> hey duflu
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[06:45] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Friday!
[06:48] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[06:49] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:49] <oSoMoN> ça va?
[06:51] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:51] <didrocks> ça va oSoMoN, et toi ?
[06:58] <Wimpress> o/
[07:05] <oSoMoN> didrocks, très bien, plutôt en forme pour un vendredi :)
[07:05] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:05] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress
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[07:16] <duflu> Hi Wimpress
[07:52] <Gargoyle> Hi all. On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam under the contributing section, the "Work on bitesize..." and "Help with work items.." links are both dead.
[07:56] <oSoMoN> Gargoyle, good catch, thanks!
[07:56] <oSoMoN> not sure what has replaced these things, let's see if we can find replacement links
[07:59] <oSoMoN> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Harvest suggests harvest.ubuntu.com has been offline since 2016
[08:00] <marcustomlinson> morning all
[08:00] <oSoMoN> morning marcustomlinson
[08:01] <marcustomlinson> happy friday!
[08:02] <Gargoyle> oSoMoN: NP. I'll keep an eye out for updated links. Want to start contributing! :-)
[08:02] <Laney> booooooooooooooooooooom
[08:03] <willcooke> toot toot - morning all
[08:04] <Laney> moin willcooke
[08:04] <Laney> brb trying to find the deep heat
[08:04] <willcooke> ruh roh, that sounds bad
[08:04] <willcooke> climbing injury?
[08:05] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney, willcooke
[08:06] <willcooke> aye up oSoMoN
[08:06] <Laney> moin oSoMoN
[08:06] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN Laney willcooke and Gargoyle :)
[08:07] <Laney> i went to a morris dancing practice on wednesday
[08:07] <willcooke> hi marcustomlinson, how's the frozen north today?  We're promised thunderstorms down here, but doesnt feel like it will come to much at the moment
[08:07] <Laney> and it injured me
[08:07] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson
[08:07] <willcooke> Laney, bad luck, but also, I love it
[08:07] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: nah, sunny here
[08:09] <Laney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ-VZpuxOCI
[08:09] <Laney> this is them
[08:09] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: I think the "bad weather in Scotland" is just a conspiracy created to keep the English from moving in ;)
[08:09] <willcooke> marcustomlinson, :DD good idea
[08:09] <oSoMoN> Gargoyle, I removed the dead links for now, couldn't find any suitable replacements right away
[08:09] <willcooke> Laney, awesome!  I like the modern twist
[08:10] <oSoMoN> Gargoyle, but you're in the right place if you want to start contributing
[08:11] <Gargoyle> oSoMoN: OK. Thanks. I've added it my auto join. Dual booting between windows, so will pop in and out! :-)
[08:11] <willcooke> welcome Gargoyle!
[08:12] <oSoMoN> cool, welcome to the desktop team's lair :)
[08:12] <didrocks> hey Laney, willcooke, marcustomlinson
[08:12] <marcustomlinson> yo didrocks
[08:13] <willcooke> hi didrocks
[08:14] <Laney> willcooke: yeah, it's quite cool, looking forward to assembling one
[08:14] <Laney> if they don't cripple me first
[08:14] <Laney> hey didrocks, happy friday to you
[08:18] <oSoMoN> I added a link to discourse on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam
[08:19] <Laney> nice one
[08:19] <Laney> maybe trello?
[08:19] <Laney> if there's a useful index to actually link to
[08:19] <oSoMoN> ah, that would be useful too, indeed
[08:21] <oSoMoN> can't see an index of all desktop-related boards, we would have to link to individual boards, and update the page at the start of every cycle when we add a new board
[08:23] <Laney> sounds error prone
[08:23] <Laney> you can make collections but i can't see how you can link to one of those
[08:24] <Laney> and it might even be private anyway since we use the company account now
[08:25] <oSoMoN> there's https://trello.com/ubuntudesktop
[08:26] <Laney> ya, the one we used before starting to use the company one
[08:26] <Laney> BUT there's a link to make it join the enterprise group, whatever that is
[08:26]  * Laney clicked it
[08:27] <Laney> maybe if that's good we could move the boards back there
[08:57] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson, willcooke, Laney, others?
[08:57] <marcustomlinson> others is on holiday today
[08:57] <marcustomlinson> :)
[08:58] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu
[09:01] <Laney> there's a Didier
[09:01] <Laney> hey duflu
[09:01] <Laney> and presumably a Till hiding away somewhere too
[09:01] <Laney> maybe even a Marco who I believe is back in Europe now
[09:02] <willcooke> afternoon duflu
[09:04] <duflu> Maybe too early if Marco is back to normal
[09:04] <didrocks> yeah, was supposed to swap today but $something_happened with the house builder
[09:07] <Laney> :(
[09:22] <marlinc> Are there known issues with the 4.15.0-51 kernel release? It can't unmount the LUKS encrypted volume on boot. Booting to 4.15.0-50 works fine
[09:26] <lis> didrocks: hi :)
[09:28] <lis> didrocks: where's your house gonna be?
[09:31] <didrocks> lis: hey! Staying new Lyon, just a little bit outside of the city
[09:32] <lis> didrocks: very nice.  building your own house is very grown-up :)
[09:39] <willcooke> marlinc, try in #ubuntu-kernel, I think you'll have more luck in there
[09:55] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah... Eeupean Marco here too
[09:56] <oSoMoN> hey there European Marco!
[09:57] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: hi Oliver!
[09:57] <oSoMoN> +i :)
[10:00] <Laney> hey Eurovinho
[10:00] <Laney> not back in your actual home though are you?
[10:11] <duflu> Is there such a thing?
[10:12] <duflu> Home is where the heart is
[10:12] <duflu> or whichever country Marco has spent a lot of time in recently
[10:13] <Trevinho> Laney: nope, in Madrid right now
[10:13] <Trevinho> duflu: home is where my thinkpad is :-D
[10:13] <duflu> Ha
[10:16] <duflu> Home is where I will be crashing for the night when I finish this MP
[13:26] <xnox> didrocks:  jibel: is it intentional to have custom livecd-rootfs in the canary ppa? and is it intentional that it is out of date with eoan? E.g. the one in the eoan archive doesn't have "add_package minimal zsys-install openssh-server"
[13:26] <xnox> didrocks:  jibel: it would be nice to merge all the canary stuff into archive livecd-rootfs, to avoid pointless merging all the time.
[13:30] <didrocks> xnox: it's a different package set to have curtin + some ppa experimental zfs packages in. We did diverge when disco was frozen (and didn't want to ask for FFe for those, as it's not going to impact). Indeed, we know that it's out of date and we will fix this in a new upload soon (after pushing most of the stuff in the archive anyway)
[13:30] <didrocks> xnox: this is orthogonal though to the breakage we discussed, I think, as the package is out of date?
[13:49] <xnox> didrocks:  it is orthogonal, just mentioning it.
[13:49] <xnox> didrocks:  if you want to keep livecd-rootfs as a delta; you could setup a ppa daily build recipy to pull in/merge lp:livecd-rootfs and do a daily build into canary ppa. that may work to keep things up to date, most of the time automatically.
[14:03] <didrocks> xnox: thx for the tip, but we'll go the easy path: uploading to distro I guess
[14:07] <xnox> i think i diagnosed this, but not sure how to best fix it
[14:14] <xnox> didrocks:  jibel: email sent
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[14:32] <didrocks> xnox: thx, will read this on Tuesday (Monday is off and we are fighting with tests right now)
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[16:15] <oSoMoN> okay, that's all folks for this week, have a good week-end and see you on Wednesday (I'm off Monday and Tuesday)!
[17:00] <willcooke> night all
[17:00] <willcooke> have a good (long) weekend
[18:35] <Irc2k_> Hello Everyone :)
[18:35] <Irc2k_> I had a quick question.
[18:35] <Irc2k_> IS anyone around?
[18:37] <sarnold> Irc2k_: irc works best if you just ask questions :)
[18:37] <Irc2k_> Lol Thanks
[18:38] <Irc2k_> Sarnold does Ubuntu still collect data from the computer in the background? Even when privacy is turned off?
[18:38] <mdeslaur> Irc2k_: collected data?
[18:39] <Irc2k_> Yes I just read an article on this a while back
[18:39] <Irc2k_> on OMGubuntu
[18:40] <Irc2k_> so was concerned
[18:40] <Irc2k_> I left windows for this
[18:40] <mdeslaur> could you point to the article? I'm not sure what data you're referring to
[18:40] <mdeslaur> right after install, it asks you if you want to submit some hardware information, but it's optional
[18:41] <Irc2k_> Yes even I thought like that I also watched a video on this
[18:41] <Irc2k_> one moment
[18:41] <Irc2k_> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-data-collection-opt-out
[18:42] <mdeslaur> Irc2k_: this channel is about desktop development, this isn't really the place to ask questions. You can try #ubuntu
[18:42] <Irc2k_> Thank you
[18:42] <mdeslaur> Irc2k_: yes, it still does that.
[18:42] <mdeslaur> Irc2k_: check the "no" box if you don't want it to
[18:44] <Irc2k_> I know but in the video they mention that still in the backgroud they do collect I'm kind of concered about this and will seek help in the channel ubuntu
[18:45] <mdeslaur> if you check "yes", it will collect hardware info in the background, if you check "no", it won't
[18:45] <mdeslaur> it's as simple as that
[18:46] <Irc2k_> got it thanks