=== akem_ is now known as akemhp [00:28] Should I be using apt or apt-get to install new software? [00:29] both are fine; apt upgrade's behaviour is the perfect mixture of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, so I recommend using apt upgrade instead.. but really, my fingers learned apt-get twenty years ago, it's hard to learn to type just apt [01:10] Hi. I just lost power on my laptop during an apt-get upgrade. After rebooting everything works and Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-arm/Packages' as repository 'http://winswitch.org bionic InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'arm' [01:10] Argh sorry [01:11] I lost power on my laptop during apt-get upgrade. After rebooting all is ok and dpkg doesn't want to finish configuring anything. But apt-get update gives a bunch of errors saying that repos dont support the architecture arm [01:11] I am very confused, as I am on an x64 machine [01:11] I checked my sources.list and one entry has [arch=arm] against it (mysteriously). I removed that but it did not change anything [01:12] Can anyone point me to a reason why apt thinks I want arm packages? [01:17] Hello everyone. I'm running libvirt, with my VMS using a bridge adapter. I'm having a problem. To allow proper routing I net to disable ntefilter, Ideally I would just write the settings in /etc/sysctl.conf, and so I did, but every time I rebooted It wasn't working, and I had to manually run sysctl -p. [01:18] munchausen, i can't see how power-loss would cause a change in a file that is only read; so I'd boot a 'live' system and `fsck` your disk/sdd/.. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest76887 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:18] And I just read an article and confirmed the reason is, that my bridge isn't up before sysctl -p is ran at boot. [01:18] Therefore so far I have to run sysctl -P every time i reboot my computer [01:19] reinstall ? [01:19] I'm running 19.04 [01:21] guiverc I've just been checking the apt logs, and it was updating apt-utils and apt-transport-https [01:22] It had not yet configured apt-utils, but dpkg-reconfigure apt-utils has not helped [01:23] guiverc I'd have thought that fsck would have been run on boot anyway due to the rootfs not being unmounted [01:24] munchausen, you'd hope it would, but power-loss may have left it in an state it didn't recognize as needing it; so I always `fsck` manually on theory better safe-than-sorry [01:27] guiverc yeah ok "Last checked: Sat Oct 27 21:37:03 2018 [01:28] brb then [01:31] hi! I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with an i3wm. Cant figure out which process turns off my pulseaudio each time i start from boot. How can i trace it? [01:50] who is able to edit this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenStack/CloudArchive [01:51] ah never mind all good [01:52] So somehow arm was list as an architecture under "apt-config dump" [01:52] "dpkg --remove-architecture arm" has resolved the issue [01:53] 'somehow' ? [02:04] how do I upgrade my mdadm, on the livecd its 3.3 and on my install its at 3.2.5 [02:08] OerHecks well power was lost while upgrading apt-utils, libapt-pkg, apt, and apt-transport-https. I can only assume a configuration issue occurred that led apt to enable the arm architecture. I have no idea of the exact mechanism [02:12] I did not at any time add the arm architecture. And just before apt-get upgrade was executed (which did not finish due to power loss) apt-get update was executed and did not report that "repository does not support architecture arm". Rebooting after power loss this was reported for most if not all repos [02:13] So 'somehow' is as pretty much as mysterious to me as it is to you [03:00] is there anything wrong with 4.2.0's raid support? [03:00] i'm at my wits end [03:00] ive tried everything to get this raid to boot [03:01] last thing I'm going to try is to copy the partition onto a non raid drive [03:02] i put /boot on a seperate drive, it still won't mount the array as / mounts fine in a livecd recovery mode though [03:06] what its doing somehow is trying to mount one of the raid1's drives while its in an array, and well, that doesnt work. Ends up triggering a resync. grub and initramfs are all correct as I can tell, its set to use the array as / and this time the non raid drive as /boot [03:18] I'm trying to set my systems locale to C.UTF-8 by "locale-gen C.UTF-8", but am getting a message that "Error: 'C.UTF-8' is not a supported language or locale" even though it's being offered up in "locale-gen C.UTF-8". How do I get this to behave itself? [03:21] how are you setting you locale at the moment? [03:25] is it possible to pair galaxy buds with ubuntu? [03:26] devslash, why not? [03:26] i cant get ubuntu to discover them [03:54] should non OS, internal drives, be owned by root or user? === [b0b] is now known as b0b [04:00] kinghat: While the device is owned by root - it is up to you who owns the files and directories in the file system. Generally for "you" to have ownership. set that at the mountpoint. [04:01] i just changed the drive ownership to myself and that didnt make a difference. [04:01] well my drive is showing up as a removable device rather than internal drive [04:12] kinghat: Well, where and how are you setting the mount point ? [04:12] i dont think i can go any further. im on kde neon. [04:13] when not mounted in fstab under /mnt/, yes it is removable /media/ [04:17] i have another SSD that is not OS and it mounts w/o fstab and not removable just fine. [04:21] kinghat: We can not offer support for Neon. [04:21] ya i know [04:41] Anyone else had issues with an iMac running ATI GPU? [04:58] archuserau: elaborate 'issues' please? [05:04] lotuspsychje: GPU Drivers that dont work with the built in screen. They work fine with an external monitor though [05:04] Unless i use nomodeset in kernel options [05:04] archuserau: are you currently at this imac? [05:04] Yes [05:05] archuserau: could you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a [05:05] Give me a few minutes. [05:05] sure [05:06] Do you know a way to make programs start on the secondary display? [05:09] I have a monitor connected but all i can see on it is a mouse pointer. I cannot even right click or anything. [05:11] archuserau: try to get in your system with !nomodeset === TheMesquito is now known as CodeLyoko [05:15] I cannot even edit grub when it boots. Would those details from a live usb be helpful? [05:16] archuserau: well the live has an older kernel, so best to try to debug on your real install [05:17] archuserau: can you see anything on your mac screen? [05:17] Nope Its just black. WhenI boot it with the other monitor attached I get some really thing green lines scrolling down the screen. [05:18] It will only boot from the usb if i use the failsafe mode. [05:18] archuserau: wich ubuntu version is that? [05:19] 19.04 [05:19] archuserau: try a 18.04.2 iso or a 16.04 as a test please [05:19] ok [05:19] one sec [05:20] I had a 12.04 iso and that worked. [05:21] Downloading 16.04 now [05:22] Yo, I'm telling you, you ubuntu devs need to remove Firefox from unattended-upgrades. This is so annoying as it auto updates in mid-work and suddenly all the tabs stop working. Happened to me like 5 times in the past 2 months times the number of computers I own. [05:23] archuserau: could be 19.04 kernel that doesnt like your graphics or so [05:24] airwind: this is not the complain channel, if you have a suggest, please use a !bug wishlist [05:24] I know 18.04 doesnt work. Will try the 16.04 [05:24] archuserau: did you try recently? or recall wich kernel 4.15 or 4.18 hwe? [05:25] I dont recall. [05:25] ok np [05:25] It was recently though [05:25] archuserau: then it will be 4.18 on current iso [05:25] I think it is a GPU driver problem. But the official AMD driver no longer supports this card. [05:26] archuserau: normally ubuntu tries to load the best driver, but in some cases it might indeed fail [05:26] archuserau: wich mac model is this? [05:26] I think it is a 2009 imac 27 inch. [05:27] I have found a few other report of the same issue on the internet but cannot see a solution anywhere. [05:27] hmm.. that pretty weird, cause i tested alot of mac succesfully with 18.04 archuserau [05:27] including 2009 and 2011 moels [05:27] models [05:27] It is driving me crazy. Such a nice screen it is wasted if i am stuck with nomodeset [05:28] archuserau: you say you can reach desktop on a live, with nomodeset? [05:28] https://0bin.net/paste/GJhR5EiALzFg0rBP#dGvxr3WyycXm81302hOO5k4ivnUbWu-r05NKc3VyPXP [05:28] anyone seen this with latest kernel update? [05:28] pihahiroth: do you have external ppa's added to your system? [05:29] Yes lotuspsychje [05:29] archuserau: if 16.04 doesnt work, we could try debug a bit from a 18.04.2 live perhaps [05:29] Ok. [05:29] lotuspsychje: negative [05:29] I am juwst writing to usb stick now [05:30] pihahiroth: could you pastebin the whole apt output that caused that please? [05:30] archuserau: allrighty, good luck [05:30] lotuspsychje: Thanks. [05:31] I was thinking i might try openbsd with it if i cant get it to work under linux [05:31] lotuspsychje: https://0bin.net/paste/FJ4UvQyB8fmVqeo+#C7wtkom6gy2wHPjoiXxOgCMuHFzf0GpzTS4TXlSZx5j [05:32] going to hop to another instance and try it to see if it is isolated to this one [05:33] pihahiroth: thats a pretty weird behaviour indeed, hmm [05:34] I'm struggling with writing a few aliases. When I do $ source .bashrc after updating the file with my new aliases the output indicates that source thinks it's a command and when it doesn't find out produces the error. Here is the aliases pasted the way they are now. I've tried servceral variations that can be seen here: https://pastebin.com/cd8Xh23n any guidance woutd be greately appreciated. Ty [05:35] lotuspsychje: yep, its isolated to that instance, so something is borked, other instances are fine [05:35] probably just need to respawn it and move on [05:35] pihahiroth: is your /boot full or something? [05:35] nope [05:36] checked that first [05:36] pihahiroth: maybe you can try clean out things with bleachbit, then try again [05:37] actually, may have just found it, the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions is indeed scrambled [05:37] going to copy it from another instance [05:38] lotuspsychje: ok i got it booted up. I am using 16.04 with the external monitor. Will this do for trouble shooting? [05:38] archuserau: if you can access a terminal in there sure [05:38] I can. What was that command you wanted me to run again? [05:39] archuserau: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a [05:40] https://bpaste.net/show/5f47dba7535f [05:40] There you go [05:44] Setting up linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-51-generic (4.15.0-51.55) [05:44] and 2 lines on .. Setting up linux-headers-generic (4.15.0.51.53) [05:44] archuserau: radeon driver seems loaded, but seems like an older card to me [05:44] It is older. But I would not have thought the linux kernel would just drop support? [05:44] some wonky version mismatch [05:45] archuserau: drivers lists gets updated & cleaned out to move on [05:45] lotuspsychje: Is there a way to activate the old ones again [05:46] archuserau: maybe you could try something lightweight like xubuntu or lubuntu [05:46] I might just give openbsd a try. They would use different drivers right? [05:47] archuserau: *if* the drivers have dropped support for your card (and that's a big if), you basically need to run older software to get it going again [05:47] archuserau: actually a 2009 mac, i would consider creating a !bug [05:48] archuserau: which release are you on? [05:48] ducasse: he tryed 19.04 18.04 and 16.04 [05:48] I was on 19.04 but i installed it from the usb in safe mode and then it would not boot. [05:49] I have tried lots of distro. It does boot it just doesnt display anything on the built in screen. [05:49] archuserau: i would try 14.04 (even though it's eol) to verify if it's a problem of dropped support [05:49] https://askubuntu.com/questions/990858/imac-how-to-make-ubuntu-work-properly-with-imac-graphics-card [05:49] or something even older [05:49] This seems to be the same issue. [05:49] It works with 12.04 [05:50] ok, then that points to the driver being dropped :( [05:51] ducasse: what about if he installed ubuntu-server and installed like a simple desktop, would that work? [05:52] lotuspsychje: no, not if the problem is the driver [05:52] right [05:52] It was working on archlinux with nomodeset but it was very slow. Couldnt even watch a youtube video [05:53] I guess I need to figure out how to get OSX back on it after i nuked the HDD lol [05:53] archuserau: maybe like ducasse says, older version and pick a lubuntu or xubuntu, then just dont connect it to the internet due to security [05:53] lol [05:54] ok bye [05:54] Sorry. I accidently closed the window [05:56] you could try one or more of the bsd's, as you suggested [05:57] I am going to try openbsd. Shame there are no live usb for any of the bsds that i can find. [06:00] sure, give that a shot [06:00] there are also other linux distros built for older hardware [06:01] ducasse: Could yo ugive me a few of their names? [06:02] sorry, no, i really don't know which are any good, but i suggest you ask in ##linux [06:03] THanks. I will :) [06:03] ok, good luck, sorry i can't help [06:05] Its ok. I think apple has done something to this GPU. [06:05] I reckon if i had one in a windows pc it would work fine. [06:26] hi! I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with an i3wm. Cant figure out which process turns off my pulseaudio each time i start from boot. How can iace whatprocesses are causing it or turn it onby default? [06:58] Can't get my varaiable to work. It's driving me nuts. It's modeled (syntactically) like another, working variable. I get the following out put when running $ git $variable | ${variable} | $(variable) : "fatal: Failed to resolve 'initial-commit' as a valid ref." [06:59] plongshot: what are the contents of $variable [06:59] plongshot: did you try "$variable" ? [06:59] with the quotes [07:05] EriC^^: I made this to show you: https://pastebin.com/tdWpUUHB [07:06] $ git "$initialcommit" [07:06] git: 'tag -m 'Initial Commit' initial-commit' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. [07:08] I was having problems with a dash earlier. I had a dash in the variable name and everything was borked. I removed that and madeitoneword. Now the source command isn't puking up complaints when I run it on my file (.bashrc) but the use of it is not working. [07:09] But a as used in git tag -m "commit message" tag-name works fine when issued directly on the command line but will not work as a varialbe. [07:09] (there is nothing agains using a dash in a tag name) [07:11] echo ${readme} [07:11] tag -m 'Readme File' readme [07:11] shows looking correct. Same with the other two [07:12] Hello. I just upgraded to 18.04 LTS. What does "E: Package 'pdftk' has no installation candidate" mean? How to reinstall it? [07:15] Is there no one who would help me get this solved? [07:15] I'm sorry it's so dam funny to see someone screw up ths bad [07:15] I need the thing [07:17] vlt, it was removed due to a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdftk/+bug/1764450 >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdftk/+bug/1757314 [07:17] Launchpad bug 1764450 in pdftk (Ubuntu Bionic) "[needs-packaging] pdftk missing in 18.04 (bionic) and later releases" [Undecided,New] [07:17] Launchpad bug 1757314 in sdaps (Ubuntu) "remove pdftk (relying on gcj) and dependencies" [Undecided,Fix released] [07:17] with some workarounds, manually installing stuf, or sudo snap install pdftk >> https://snapcraft.io/pdftk [07:18] !info pdftk bionic [07:18] Package pdftk does not exist in bionic [07:18] last one will give updates [07:19] Why is it that when I show up with simple questions people don't always want to help? I've been using ubuntu and ocmint to irc for almost 10 years now and it has been somehting that bothers me (noticeable difference in how I'm responded to). I need the variable to work. I don't have month or weeks to learn evryting about bash I'm asking for help here for the last several hours, some try to help but nothing is working. Can somoen [07:19] please post the correct way to do this? [07:19] vlt: pdftk was removed from bionic, i do not recall why [07:19] I need the thing and I don't have someowhere alse to go to get help [07:20] plongshot, meh, what a rant, i answered your questions before.. and if i do not know the answer .. so be it [07:20] !patience [07:20] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [07:21] there's also #bash and #git [07:21] plongshot: if you have a bash question, i suggest you take it to #bash [07:21] OerHeks: There are 1263 other nicks on here beside me and you. What I'm asking is not that difficult. Noone has any problem helping one another as long as it isn't me I guess. Why would someone have to ask and beg and plead for hours hoping to get help with a simple example [07:21] ???????? [07:22] You don't have to be rude OerHeks [07:22] We been cool w/ each other before [07:22] Why would someone be allowed to humiliate themself asking for help? [07:23] plongshot: putting a bunch of metadiscussion into this channel is only gonna make it harder for you and others to get help. please don't. [07:23] OerHeks: Thank you. [07:23] as we said already, there are also other channels you can ask for help with bash and/or git in, if this one is not helpful to you. [07:24] nothing is gonna change people's attitude toward me. I get pissed. Real pissed. I SEE them helping each other with the same shit I ask about [07:24] It is personal [07:24] I don't matter? [07:24] plongshot: drop it. [07:24] I know the anwer to that [07:25] plongshot: If what you're asking is not that difficult you could be the one to answer it. [07:27] plongshot: Use functions or arrays instead. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/050 [07:37] I'm trying to set up an apache web server on ubuntu 1st time. Nearly got it to work with dokuwiki in a vhost but the redirect from dir to dir/index.php isn't working. I have a DirectoryIndex directive. What gives? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vNVdmxgsQ5/ [07:41] After an update last night, my ubuntu 19.04 install won't boot and locks up even before I can reach grub to change kernel, does anyone have an idea of how to fix it [07:43] Zorbeltuss, if it dies before grub, i'd suspect hardware issue. i'd not try and boot your system, try to boot a 'live' system (eg. install media) and try and validate your hardware health (sdd, hdd, memory etc) [07:43] Zorbeltuss: I'd boot from a USB install media. [07:43] I am on a live media currently [07:43] it reports no issues [07:45] Zorbeltuss, did you validate memory (memtest), check smart status of drives etc? validation of a system takes some time (how old is it?, should I do a cap-check? etc.. ) i'm not asking you these questions, more what I'd ask myself in your shoes [07:51] smart status on the drive isn't availible to test (nvme samsung 960 pro and unless my settings on the hardware level got removed when changing to ubuntu it should have extra space allocated for switching or what it's called to reduce error rates), memtest is good, I'm on a ryzen system at a bit more than two years [07:51] Zorbeltuss, also go into bios/uefi & check settings all look good, that you didn't suffer a dead/battery-failure & settings are now wrong & trying to boot a non-existing device etc.. [07:54] I did, grub starts to load though so the wrong disk isn't the issue, I get a loading screen or a non updating character input sign terminal (not blinking) when trying to reach grub, also in both cases I get a frozen mouse pointer which is way earlier than it has been arriving during normal operations [08:00] is there a way to save and restore volume and channel settings through pulse? [08:01] I don't know is there? I am unfamiliar with pulse [08:02] oh right, I am stupid sorry [08:02] I was thinking you were answering me and I was thinking of snap >.< === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [08:08] Good day, I am in the process of running a md5sum to verify the hash on my usb, but when I run the command in the terminal to check the hash on the usb drive I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3ttTQ3mdHc/ [08:09] Its something so simple and I don't know why its not going through, I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM [08:12] Bluewolf: the error is pretty clear though, isn't it? ;) [08:13] also, are you certain you want sdc1 and not sdc? [08:15] ppf_: My computer was telling me sdc1 - I might be doing strange things [08:15] 'your computer'? [08:15] ppf_: Yeah, not me :D [08:15] tab to autocomplete? [08:16] right ;P [08:16] Its reading a flash drive that isn't there [08:16] Bluewolf: you'll have to sudo that dd, you can't read from raw devices unless you're root [08:16] but I think you wanted sdc yes, not sdc1 [08:17] blackflow: Alright let me give it a go quick [08:19] Hi all whats a good music manager app for mp3, ogg, wma etc. [08:20] blackflow: The command is running. You're not gonna believe me here, but when I open the 'Disks' manager - there is a ghost thumb drive reading as sdc, but I don't have any other drive in other than the one I'm running the md5sum [08:20] In the manager it reads as sdc1 [08:21] sdc is the device, sdc1 is the first partition [08:22] I've just installed Gparted to check whats going on - Seems I'm having another isse with thumb drives not allowing anything to be copied on or changed [08:22] Bluewolf: what ppf_ said. however, you need the whole device if you want to compare with the ISO. iirc you might need to limit that dd to the exact number of bytes the ISO has, if the drive is bigger [08:23] blackflow: Yeah I read that in the guide [08:23] The command is running as we speak [08:30] got smartmontools to report on my nvme drive, does anyone know hat arguments are reasonalbe to get readable information for "nvmelog,N,Size" as in what should N and Size be? [08:31] s/hat/any === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit === export_ is now known as export === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [09:08] hi al what webcam app does Ubuntu come with. [09:09] !info cheese | HiDeHo [09:09] HiDeHo: cheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 137 kB, installed size 448 kB [09:09] HiDeHo: what do you mean by "webcam app"? [09:10] SwedeMike, what is a webcam used for? [09:12] a webcam is used for taking videos and photos of a user. [09:12] i am not talking about video calling etc. [09:13] lotuspsychje, thanks. cheese is usually my first app. though it has limited features. [09:15] if recording for youtube or for streaming for a streaming service like twitch, obs should work but I've never used it with a webcam on either windows or linux [09:25] Zorbeltuss, thanks [09:26] i am looking for an app that can record and edit videos. atm i am installing cheese to record and kdenlive etc to edit. [09:29] Hi TJ,just had a look at the link you posted for the tuto for the fulldisk-encryption,looks awesome!! [09:30] will give it a try today! [09:33] HiDeHo openshot is a pretty decent editor [09:33] cinelerra is the super(over?)powered alternative [09:33] cfhowlett, openshot is installed here by default [09:34] as well as kdenlive. [09:35] cfhowlett, whatr i want to do is try to record myself playing different parts of songs. bass, ukulele guitar, keyboard, etc. and have them all showing at same time. [09:36] picture in picture? [09:39] HiDeHo: then what you want is a video recording application that can talk to whatever video device your hardware driver presents to the OS. Being snippy about "what is a webcam used for" is just uncalled for. You did not specify what you needed, and you chose to be an ass about it. [09:40] SwedeMike, i was not trying to be like that. sorry it came across like it. [09:41] i see so many people with videos on youtube like this but they have windows or mac computers mainly. [09:41] Hi, I've an issue where my USB drive has suddenly become a read only drive and won't allow me to format it. I don't know how to resolve this issue, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome [09:42] HiDeHo: what you're looking for is video recording software that'll record video to a file on disk, and then video editing software to put it all together. [09:43] HiDeHo: you can do this from any video device in linux probably, meaning it doesn't matter if it's a USB camera, a PCI-E video-in device or whatever other source of video [09:43] I'm getting these errors in Gparted - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gZbCmqSp6M/ [09:45] HiDeHo: it would have been a completely different program needed if you wanted to live-stream the output from the same usb-camera, for instance a stream with your picture as picture-in-picture with another stream. That's why I asked. [09:45] Bluewolf: you messed up the filesystem [09:45] ppf_: How though, all I tried to do was format it and I wouldn't allow it? [09:46] I mean it set itself to a read only state, how? [09:46] i have no idea what you did, i can't really tell you ;) [09:46] I've seen this with failing USB Bluewolf [09:46] Bluewolf: remove the partition table and start from scratch [09:47] Bluewolf: check "dmesg" for errors. [09:47] cfhowlett: So all my usb drives are falling then - Even new ones? :D [09:48] ah, that's different? I thought you mentioned only the one [09:48] ppf_: It won't allow me to remove the partition - because its read-only? [09:48] Bluewolf: rewrite the _table_ [09:48] cfhowlett: Yeah currently its one, but my other usb have similar issues. When I was able to format them, they were fine after. [09:49] Bluewolf: does the usb have some sort of read only switch [09:49] ppf_: I'm not sure how to do that. [09:49] Device>Create Partition Table [09:49] EriC^^: Not that I'm aware of [09:49] Bluewolf: pastebin "sudo parted -ls" [09:50] EriC^^: see the errors he posted [09:50] ppf_: What partition table type? [09:50] dont have scrollback here [09:50] fat [09:51] *msdos [09:51] EriC^^: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. [09:52] EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MH3qchmrhr/ [09:52] hardware fail is possible, but i'm betting on a user error :) [09:52] sounds like he's trying to mount the disk or omething [09:52] ppf_: Probably yes [09:52] try sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt [09:53] EriC^^: he said it's gparted output [09:53] ppf_: And yes, the new partition failed again - read-only [09:53] how do you determine 'read-only' [09:53] Bluewolf: what does "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd count=1" give? [09:53] can you back up a little and tell us what it is you're actually trying to do [09:54] ppf_: Its the error that keeps popping up when ever I try alter something [09:54] EriC^^: dd: failed to open '/dev/sdd': Read-only file system [09:54] Bluewolf: type "dmesg | grep sdd" and paste [09:55] EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JMxTvZQTDh/ [09:56] I don't understand how it set itself to a 'Read-only file system' [09:57] [sdd] Write Protect is on [09:57] sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdd to make it writable again, but you might want to retrace your steps to see how you enabled it [09:59] ppf_: Well that's just it. I don't know what's causing it. I'd put data on, next day, BAM! - 'Read-only file system' :D [10:00] Bluewolf: How old is the SSD? [10:01] jeremy31: Hm, I'd say about a year. Sat for about 6 months without being used. Then I started using it abit. [10:01] Age likely a part to play? [10:01] With all my USB's - Even a new one? [10:01] Bluewolf: open the Disks program, see what SMART results show [10:02] jeremy31: it won't allow me access to the SMART option [10:03] Bluewolf: this can often happen if the link to the device is iffy and commands get dropped or timeout, is it ocnnecte via USB<>SATA ? [10:03] Bluewolf: grr typo! /connected/ [10:05] TJ-: Ah USB, not sure through SATA though [10:05] Don't think so [10:05] Oh, dah - Its with USB thumb drives [10:06] Bluewolf: the device is an SSD you said; that usually implies (but not exclusively) it has a native SATA interface. When connected via USB often-times the USB part has a USB<>SATA bridge-chip that converts commands from the USB to SATA and back [10:07] Bluewolf: if is is 'just' a USB Flash device (thumb-drive as they're often called) then its a USB<>Flash controller. ) [10:07] Bluewolf: these latter would not be expected to have SMART functionality [10:08] TJ-: So far its only been with my USB thumb Drives. So faulty connections is what you're suggesting, from the physical merging? [10:09] TJ-: The SMART functionality are not available through the Disks program [10:09] On both the USB Drives/Thumb Drives I have in [10:10] Nor is the format option [10:10] Bluewolf: The quality of USB Flash devices can be poor. E.g. I'ev seen many, many times where they've failed when subjected to sustained writes. The underlying reason is the USB<>Flash NAND controller chip in them overheats and either temporarily causes glitches (including data corruption) like you've seen, or permanently kills the device [10:11] but multiple usb failures?? [10:11] TJ-: Is there a way I can check that? [10:12] Bluewolf: if you can burn your fingers on it when it's being actively used :D [10:12] Perhaps there is an issue with the hardware travelling to my motherboard? [10:12] No fingers are not burning :D [10:13] Bluewolf: if your issue is 'just' this read-only attribute being set, then that is more likely a problem with the physical connection, or some other hardware issue causes commands to the device to be lost/fail/timeout etc. [10:14] Bluewolf: in which case the device makes itself read-only to protect data integrity [10:15] TJ-: Well let me shed some more insight - I'm using the front usb ports on my desktop, which appear to be working. However the microphone and volume imputs stopped working a while back and I have failed to get them working - So is it safe to assume that the wires to the board are the issue then? [10:16] Perhaps the mystery to the silent usb drives is finally solved :D [10:17] Bluewolf: Now, usually, if a command fails the Linux kernel will report an I/O error in the kernel log (viewed via dmesg, or captured in the kernel logs). E.g. "journalctl -k -p warning | grep "I/O" will usually find related messages [10:17] Bluewolf: that sounds like a good hypothesis [10:18] TJ-: So should I try this command: journalctl -k -p warning | grep "I/O [10:19] Now I need help! Suddenly, since last evening, in terminal I'm getting a lot of "fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable " when trying to run some, but not all, commands! E.g. it just happened trying "man journalctl" [10:19] As is? [10:19] Bluewolf: put a closing " at the end :) [10:22] TJ-: Done. And no feedback :( [10:23] Bluewolf: right; consider the actual failure that caused the read-only could have been some time ago; when did you last use that USB device when you could write to it? [10:24] TJ-: About a month or so - Decided to let it 'pickle' before trying something again or until I had the motivation to try fix it :D [10:25] Oh by 'pickle' I mean I left it in a draw untouched [10:25] Bluewolf: right, so the messages may no longer be saved in the logs :) [10:25] Bluewolf: but the iffy front sockets does sound to be the prime suspect [10:26] TJ-: Okay so if I've narrowed it down to that, how do I format or fix this usb drive if none of the programs will allow access - zeroing it? [10:27] Note to others!! MegaRaid Storage Manager, started with the confusingly named /etc/init.d/vivaldifameworkd, spins up a JRE with some kind of Popup.jar notification agent, that has just used up all available threads, resulting in the "fork failed: Resource temporarily available" message [10:28] I only installed MegaRAID to help a user last week diagnose issues in starting/using it, forgot it was installed, and had a reboot for the first time last night that would have triggered the service to start [10:32] Hmmm, and the uninstaller.sh script does nothing. [10:34] TJ-: Ah "uninstaller.sh script" ? [10:36] Bluewolf: hehehe, yes, this MegaRAID Storage Controller I installed to help another user last week. The Linux 'package' is not exactly amazing :) [10:37] just running rm in a shell script is too difficult? [10:37] akik: apparently :) [10:38] akik: the uninstaller sources an env files which calls a 'hidden' empty .___uninst.sh shell script! [10:39] it also uses some foreign tool so the service name is actually 'vivaldiframeworkd' - not really obvious that is related to LSI/MegaRAID [10:39] it also writes it's shell env as /etc/init.d/msm_profile, rather than put it in /etc/default/ [10:39] which brings back memories about steam: rm -rf "$STEAMROOT/"* [10:40] akik: that was similar was it? Scary how life outside Debian Policy can get ! [10:41] TJ-: no it just made me wonder if the people are not able to write a uninstall script, they could as easily put into it rm -rf "$STEAMROOT/"* and not check if $STEAMROOT is empty [10:42] https://github.com/valvesoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 [10:42] akik: Ahhh... I've not touched steam so not very familiar with it. I only recall users's reporting it installed everything under the $HOME [10:44] Is there any reason to run a new version of syncthing (1.1.4) vs 0.14.18 ? :) (smileyface cos it seems like a ridiculous question) [10:45] Lope: i mean ... ^^ [10:45] is there any reason not to run ubuntu 9.04? [10:45] Lope, please .. crossposting in 3 channels.. what did you find yourself? [10:46] OerHeks, it's not crossposting if you're asking for an opinion [10:46] an opinion type question is likely to get various conflicting answers because everyone has a different perspective. [10:46] we don't do opinions here though! [10:46] !9.04 | ppf_ [10:46] ppf_: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. [10:47] It's not like a fact based question where someone has to go research the answer. [10:47] cfhowlett: :p [10:47] ppf_, okay so you won't be giving your opinion then, cool. [10:48] Lope= please restrict opinion queries to #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for dedicated tech support [10:48] ^ [10:48] cfhowlett, oh, I see, thanks. [10:48] TJ-: So and I'm pretty much in the dark here. "sudo -H nautilus" should allow me to change owner ship of the drive and change the read-only state or have I fallen off the wagon here? :D [10:48] happy2help! Lope [10:48] Bluewolf: yeah that's something else [10:49] Bluewolf= sudo -H does not change ownership of anything. [10:49] !permissions | Bluewolf [10:49] Bluewolf: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [10:49] Bluewolf: no, at the drive level you need "blockdev --setrw /dev/sdX" or "hdparm -r 0 /dev/sdX" [10:50] Bluewolf: these commands are to remove the Write Protect flag reported by the kernel as "[sdd] Write Protect is on" [10:50] Bluewolf: try and see if that same stick works on another computer [10:51] my default assumption is user error, but if all your devices have that same issue that's a bit too unliekly [10:51]