[00:00] <FaTaL_G> Is there a way to prevent this? I mean, can't apt get upgrade virtually try or at least save menu.lst grub conf etc, so if it fails, it can revert?
[00:01] <FaTaL_G> its insane that a machine will just hose its boot partition willingly
[00:01] <sarnold> it depends upon the error in question
[00:07] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: Out of disk space ? what shows ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[00:10] <FaTaL_G> Bashing-om, It has been before... more than once
[00:11] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: this should handle keeping N kernels /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[00:11] <FaTaL_G> more times that not, it isnt, regardless, it fails to rebuild initramfs or grub2
[00:11] <MarkB2> sarnold: I think I fixed it.
[00:12] <MarkB2> brb.. afk for a few minutes.
[00:12] <sarnold> MarkB2: oh yes? what di dyou do?
[00:12] <FaTaL_G> its so infuriating... anything that touches the actual BOOT partition should act like flashing a bios.... and only delete or overwrite things once it knows its good
[00:19] <MarkB2> FaTaL_G: I agree.  But the idea of a "root" user having "supreme power" over an OS means it thinks root is Ghod and it will do whatever Ghod says to do.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: When unattended-upgrades is enabled - the default action is to keep the last "working" kernel.
[00:21] <MarkB2> sarnold: Installed Firefox 67.0.1 fresh.  Opened the Library and did a "Restore" from the old profile's bookmarkbackup directory.
[00:22] <MarkB2> It issued a warning something like, "Do you really want to do this?"  Left-clicked yes and it did it.
[00:22] <MarkB2> But saved passwords weren't restored.
[00:22] <MarkB2> looked on the net.
[00:22] <MarkB2> copied the key3.db and key4.db files to the new profile.
[00:23] <MarkB2> One other file needed to be copied... one moment
[00:24] <sarnold> cookies.sqlite or places.sqlite perhaps?
[00:24] <FaTaL_G> I generally do the updates myself. They arent unattended,but some updates spam the screen a bit over the top, and I might miss the error
[00:25] <MarkB2> Am I allowed to post a URL here?
[00:25] <FaTaL_G> I dont always check to make sure it rebuilt without error... but, even if it didnt, it would only require the methods of the tools to do preparation steps first, and upon success, then make changes. Far less likely to ever have a problem
[00:26] <FaTaL_G> its not ghods fault per-se, its the order of operations on the tools we use to update
[00:26] <sarnold> MarkB2: sure
[00:26] <MarkB2> sarnold: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1229346
[00:27] <sarnold> MarkB2: that's a nice page, thanks
[00:28] <MarkB2> You're welcome.  All I wanted was the last collection of saved bookmarks and the password files.
[00:29] <MarkB2> There was a note in another Mozilla support site saying that while exporting bookmarks is right there, there is no option to export the associated password file.
[00:30] <sarnold> I've used sqlite to read through my places.sqlite before.. that's my most important file in that directory, by far
[00:30] <sarnold> (and honestly, most of the friction in me trying other browsers.. life without that thing would be really hard)
[00:32] <solidfox> are there any issues in ubuntu 19.04
[00:32] <MarkB2> Oh yeah.  A fresh install turns on all the telemetry to Daddy.  I never thought I'd be referring to the Mozilla.org crowd as "Daddy" (like Google is Chrome's daddy)... but, darn it, I dislike having my browsing monitored.
[00:32] <solidfox> yeah thats probably a bit of an issue
[00:33] <solidfox> but im more worried about like memory leaks
[00:33] <solidfox> in gnome
[00:33] <solidfox> MarkB2: can that be disabled or opt-out of?
[00:34] <MarkB2> solidfox: You can turn off all kinds of things in Edit-->Preferences.  But I'm still seeing error messages saying that a connection back to Daddy timed out.
[00:34] <sarnold> solidfox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/
[00:34] <MarkB2> Ah yes... and 67.0.1 has happily reverted its brains to refuse to work properly with Yahoo.
[00:35] <MarkB2> "A web page is slowing down your browser.  What would you like to do?"  Options are "Stop it" and "Wait".  How about "Show URL of messed up web page" ?  Naw, that would be easy.
[00:35] <solidfox> sarnold: ah i see
[00:35] <Bashing-om> solidfox: See too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes >> Known issues ,
[00:36] <solidfox> Bashing-om: thanks
[00:39] <solidfox> can ubuntu be put onto a usb with dd?
[00:39] <sarnold> yup
[00:39] <Sysifoss> Hey, new question. I noticed my tty's have oddly shaped and large text. I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and then logged into tty and ran setupcon but nothing changed.
[00:39] <solidfox> ok i've always used unetbootin for some reaosn
[00:41] <TJ-> jeremy31: thanks! After swapping out the wifi card for one that didn't work at all (!!) and putting it back, returned to AP and finally discovered that it was set to 802.11n mode only, setting buried 6 pages in, and off the bottom of the screen!
[00:42] <sarnold> TJ-: behind locked doors, and a hungry leopard? :)
[00:44] <TJ-> sarnold: it did feel that way; only wasted about 4 hours trying to get the darned thing on the 'net!
[00:45] <Sysifoss> Maybe im in in a lower bit mode?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: Would help you if you told the terminal emulator that you are running in the TTY .
[00:54] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: How do I find that out?
[00:55] <sarnold> TJ-: ouch :(
[00:55] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: I'm using standard ubuntu. Pressed ctrl+alt+f3. Anything thats been changed is accidental and likely the result of following bad forum advice and not realizing i messed up
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: universally to see is terminal command ' echo $TERM ' .
[00:58] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: it said "linux"
[00:59] <Bashing-om> messing up is the way we learn .. ubuntu: break it and you do get to keep the pieces :)
[00:59] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: Humm .. not what i expected .. As I do not run stock ubuntu I can not relate here .
[01:00] <MarkB2> It feels very strange, Bashing-om, to be considered a beta test site by Canonical.
[01:01] <Sysifoss> That's what I like about open source! I have learned slowly through osmosis and messing up hard lol
[01:02] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: Someone must test :) I did at one time do a lot of testing :P
[01:02] <MarkB2> Bashing-om: Indeed.  What kind of regression testing would you do on Ubuntu?  Or any Linux for that matter?
[01:03] <sarnold> MarkB2: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: I do not mind poking at this - if you can live with my fumbling - still with basb as your default shell ? ` echo $SHELL ` .
[01:04] <sarnold> MarkB2: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/qa-regression-testing/+git/qa-regression-testing/+ref/master
[01:04] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: Install bleeding edge something .. and get it to work ,, and/or holler for help when it breaks :)
[01:05] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: I dont mind fumbling. Whenever I'm helping friends convert to linux I fumble alot but I learn a ton trying to solve problems.
[01:05] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: yeah it says /bin/bash
[01:06] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: it takes fubling to figure anything out with systems as complex as these dang computers nowadays
[01:10] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: Thing is - I do not run standard; so I can not verify what is defaults in a standard install.
[01:11] <Sysifoss> Bashing-om: ah, gotcha. Ive been trying to google that and it's been surprisingly hard
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Sysifoss: Let's see what ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ' will do for you. It would guide you through the steps to choose a font and font-size.
[01:17] <Bashing-om>  the new settings will be effective after reboot.
[01:37] <TJ-> oh, I've just killed a new install in the most spectacular way
[01:39] <Bashing-om> TJ-: But no magic smoke ?
[01:40] <TJ-> that too! tiredness kills... disks
[01:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Ouch ! Such fun recovering data :(
[01:43] <TJ-> disk had Windows on with 1=recovery,2=windows,5=data partitions. I used gparted earlier to remove 5 to make space above 2 for Linux... then like a berk went and installed Ubuntu into 2, wiping out Windows! So I thought I'll remove 1 (Recovery) since I found that was broken anyhow, put a Linux part in its place and copy the Linux in 2 down into it. 2 has LVM so easy, I make a snapshot of 2's rootfs LV and copy
[01:43] <TJ-> it down into the new partition. HOWEVER I used sgdisk to --sort the partition numbers so the running 2 isn't the same as 2 on the disk until a reboot, and did "dd if=/dev/mapper/VG-snapshot_root /dev/sda2" ... and overwrote the running Linux!!!
[01:44]  * TJ- starts a fresh install with a strong mug of coffee
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Coffee and smarts cures all ubuntu ails :D
[02:22] <solidfox> hello, i am wondering why some people say w3m doesn't show images in gnome-terminal, and some say it does.
[02:22] <solidfox> it does not for me
[02:23] <sarnold> solidfox: install w3m-img and try again
[02:23] <solidfox> sarnold: yes i have w3m-img and it works in xterm
[02:23] <sarnold> oh!
[02:23] <solidfox> i'm using ubuntu 19.04
[02:29] <jack> solidfox: might be some setting, in gnome-terminal
[02:30] <solidfox> jack: yeah maybe
[02:32] <solidfox> i really like ubuntu 19.04 though, its pretty great
[02:39] <jack> solidfox: same here
[02:39]  * jack pets his discodingo
[02:40] <jcotton> they tend to bite
[02:50] <TJ-> Hmmm, why is 19.04 desktop installer setting GRUN_TIMEOUT=0 ?
[02:53] <BenderRodriguez> Help
[02:53] <BenderRodriguez> I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 18.04 LTS
[02:54] <BenderRodriguez> but it doesn't detect the link state on a connected interface
[02:54] <BenderRodriguez> as such I cannot get past the network configuration stage
[02:54] <BenderRodriguez> what do I do
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> BenderRodriguez: join to #ubuntu-server plz
[02:54] <BenderRodriguez> ugh
[02:55] <jack> i'd try something newer
[02:55] <jack> 19.04 or so :P
[02:56] <BenderRodriguez> but this is a server distro
[02:56] <jack> so?
[02:57] <jack> "lts"...how much does that weigh
[02:57] <jack> we have 2919 now!
[02:58] <jack> erm, 2019
[02:59] <TJ-> BenderRodriguez: determine what the NIC is and if it needs firmware support
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> TJ-: the NIC itself is detected
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> the ports show up in the interface list
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> the problem is a connected link doesn't show as up
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> and DHCP negotiation also fail
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> alright, you know what, why am I bothering with this
[02:59] <BenderRodriguez> I'll try CentOS
[03:01] <TJ-> BenderRodriguez: link state could be due to a firmware issue, or possibly a power-save feature, what type of NIC is it? what does lspci report?
[03:06] <TJ-> BenderRodriguez: I found the ID of that device appears to be 14e4:163a, in which case the driver is 'bnx2' and that lists several possible firmwares required. "modinfo -F firmware bnx2" lists them. They should be under /lib/firmware/
[03:06] <h3rb_> Hello
[03:08] <h3rb_>   I'm currently trying to install ubuntu along side windows 10. I wanted to encrypt my ubuntu os in the partition screen. Can some one please help me with this
[03:08] <h3rb_> I selected something else option.
[03:08] <h3rb_> Im stuck on this screen
[03:09] <TJ-> h3rb_: you're in luck! I just finished writing a guide for that... take a look see if it helps you.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[03:10] <TJ-> h3rb_: be aware though, my guide is written for the scenario of using the entire disk (erasing whatever is on there) so you'll have to modify the steps to your scenario, but it is entirely do-able
[03:10] <h3rb_> Ok Im trying to install along side win 10
[03:11] <h3rb_> I have already set aside 100gb for this
[03:11] <h3rb_> I clicked on something else option and on that partition screen
[03:11] <h3rb_> I have legacy boot
[03:12] <h3rb_> Nice article but why does encryption have to be soo complicated
[03:13] <TJ-> h3rb_: as I said, see my guide, it deals with how to prepare for that. You've got to go through pre-install preparation before starting the installer
[03:13] <h3rb_> I'm not an expert with linux but I know my way around.
[03:14] <TJ-> h3rb_: it's not complicated, it's just different. The installer can do it for an empty disk but due to some subtle interactions it doesn't attempt it if there's another OS on the target device
[03:15] <h3rb_> I have os installed on my target drive.
[03:16] <h3rb_> Its a very well written article TJ but this is just too much to do. How about I create partitions from the "something else" partition screen
[03:17] <h3rb_> Will that work?
[03:18] <h3rb_> There is a use as option, in that there is use as encrypted volume
[03:19] <h3rb_> Do I have to manually create swap, / and /boot encrypted?
[03:19] <h3rb_> From gui partition screen
[03:20] <TJ-> h3rb_: no, it won't
[03:20] <h3rb_> :( why not?
[03:20] <TJ-> h3rb_: as I said, you've got to pre-prepare the encrypted devices before entering the installer
[03:21] <h3rb_> Ok cool TJ but everything on the article is for uefi
[03:21] <h3rb_> And for single boot
[03:21] <h3rb_> I have multi boot
[03:21] <TJ-> h3rb_: no, it isn't, the article was written using a BIOS install
[03:22] <TJ-> h3rb_: but I made it so it will work for either BIOS or UEFI
[03:22] <h3rb_> Ok awesome let me try it out
[03:23] <TJ-> h3rb_: as long as you don't sgdisk --zap-all and wipe out your existing OS you can follow those instructions to create the partitions you DO want rather than the ones I detail
[03:23] <h3rb_> So If I follow these steps I ll lose my win10 ?
[03:24] <TJ-> h3rb_: once you've got your partition(s) created, and LUKS them, and open them, you can add LVM or not (I always recommend it) and once you've followed those steps the installer will pick up the /device/mapper/XXXX devices you have to install into
[03:24] <TJ-> h3rb_: If you follow them religiously without thinking - I spell it out there: "First we'll wipe out the existing partitioning metadata from the device DO NOT DO THIS if you are installing alongside existing partitions!"
[03:25] <h3rb_> Ok cool Thanks TJ really appreciate it!
[03:27] <TJ-> h3rb_: I kept it to a single scenario because trying to deal with others would just confuse people as to which instructions applied to them
[03:28] <TJ-> h3rb_: it's my intention to delveop other similar tutorials in the future for other scenarios
[03:28] <h3rb_> Thanks man this was really helpful
[03:34] <h3rb_> TJ is I dont have libreboot doing all this is pointless correct?
[03:34] <h3rb_> Hackers can still access my encrypted drive if they wanted to right?
[03:35] <h3rb_> I just got to know about this from the trisquel irc chat room
[03:40] <TJ-> h3rb_: are you encrypting /boot/ where the kernel and initrd are stored, as in my guide/
[03:40] <h3rb_> Yes
[03:41] <TJ-> h3rb_: you have to trust at some point; the libreboot point is talking about the PC's firmware being malicious. If that is in your threat model you wouldn't use an IBM PC compatible, you'd use something else possibly based on an ARM SoC or MIPS or PowerPC
[03:43] <h3rb_> Like Raspberry pi?
[03:43] <TJ-> h3rb_: yes that is one example :)
[03:45] <TJ-> for most people the threat is theft of, or interference with, a PC, so LUKS encryption protects it whilst it is powered off. If you need to protect files whilst it is running you need file-system level encryption such as ecryptfs or encfs
[03:47] <afidegnum> hello after installing winehq, while running an applicaiton, i m having this error https://kopy.io/i0REg
[03:51] <h3rb_> (Y)
[03:51] <h3rb_> :)
[03:57] <mallu> i have ubuntu 18.04 server. Trying to enable apparmor but getting error "ERROR: Cache read/write disabled: interface file missing. (Kernel needs AppArmor 2.4 compatibility patch.) Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted? Use --subdomainfs to override."
[03:57] <mallu> ANyone seen this error?
[03:58] <afidegnum> anyone familiar with wine?
[04:00] <newbie-chan> hello everyone :)
[04:00] <newbie-chan> i need purple screen help for Ubuntu 19.04
[04:00] <strixdio> not sure if it's ubuntu or just xubuntu, but does anyone know the default screen magnifier package?
[04:01] <jack> xmag or so
[04:03] <TJ-> mallu: are you running a custom built kernel?
[04:03] <mallu> TJ-: no I am not
[04:03] <newbie-chan> any suggestion for me ?
[04:03] <TJ-> newbie-chan: is the purple screen at boot and nothing else?
[04:03] <newbie-chan> yeah
[04:04] <mallu> TJ-: Linux ubuntu18-test 4.15.0-51-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 15 14:27:21 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:04] <TJ-> newbie-chan: sounds like an Intel microcode update bug a few people have been caught by, let me see if I can find the info on the workaroudn
[04:04] <TJ-> !mds
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !details | newbie-chan
[04:05] <TJ-> newbie-chan: hmmm, we do have info somewhere on the workaround, I think it's in a bug whos number I cannot recall!
[04:05] <newbie-chan> i'm able to login via shift + F3 key help :)
[04:05] <TJ-> newbie-chan: you are? oh, then your issue isn't the one I'm thinking of
[04:05] <newbie-chan> Linux waeyo 5.0.0-16-generic #17-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 15 10:52:21 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:06] <newbie-chan> yeah it show boot process on hold before xD
[04:07] <newbie-chan> !paste
[04:08] <TJ-> mallu: oh, have you installed a snap ? I see those errors caused by server service snaps
[04:08] <newbie-chan> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MnCRRB8KPb/
[04:08] <mallu> TJ-: I didn't have SNAP installed and was getting an error so I installed it
[04:09] <mallu> TJ-: I can purge snapd if you think thats the root cause
[04:09] <TJ-> mallu: I'm looking at a similar issue but not sure how it relates to your situation: https://askubuntu.com/questions/790969/how-do-i-remove-an-incomplete-or-broken-snap-installation-of-nextcloud-on-a-rasp
[04:10] <mallu> TJ-: Let me uninstall snapd
[04:10] <TJ-> mallu: are you working in a container or on a regular host?
[04:11] <mallu> TJ-: VMware.. no container
[04:11] <newbie-chan> did u check my paste ? maybe it can help :)
[04:11] <TJ-> mallu: because it looks like a privilege issue typical of being confined/restricted
[04:11] <mallu> TJ-: # aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/* Profile for /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions not found, skipping Profile for /etc/apparmor.d/apache2.d not found, skipping Setting /etc/apparmor.d/bin.ping to complain mode.  ERROR: Cache read/write disabled: interface file missing. (Kernel needs AppArmor 2.4 compatibility patch.) Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted? Use --subdomainfs to override.
[04:12] <TJ-> mallu: it's a weird one; not something I can recall ever seeing
[04:12] <mallu> TJ-: There is a lxc dir in /etc/apparmor.d/. Should I remove that dir?
[04:13] <TJ-> mallu: I doubt that'll help; that'll be for lxc to drop in required rules for its tooling
[04:14] <mallu> TJ-: getting the same error for # aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.traceroute
[04:15] <TJ-> mallu: you said its VMware; does the hypervisor provide the kernel from outside the guest (like kvm/qemu can do) or is it part of the guest itself
[04:15] <newbie-chan> TJ- i checked ur link and found i've latest packages that are listed :)
[04:15]  * newbie-chan fresh install power xD
[04:16] <mallu> TJ-: It is part of the guest itself
[04:16] <TJ-> newbie-chan: I stay away from those 'optimus' low/high powered GPU systems; they cause nothing but trouble
[04:16] <newbie-chan> i was using Intel Driver on windows :/
[04:17] <TJ-> mallu: OK, so we aren't dealing with some weird kernel issue. I keep finding those errors only in relation to containers/confinement . just found a report inside Docker
[04:17] <mallu> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gd6Dw7Jthb/
[04:17] <mallu> strace
[04:18] <newbie-chan> ubuntu additional driver show nothing :/
[04:20] <newbie-chan> i remember i did some update which updater give me :/
[04:20] <newbie-chan> maybe that is how i killed my ubuntu ;(
[04:21] <mallu> TJ-: nothing stand out from strace. I see quite a few complaining about this error but haven't stumbled upon a fix yet
[04:22] <mallu> TJ-: take a look at this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401927/enabling-apparmor-in-linux
[04:23] <mallu> you think adding CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE=1 bootloader might fix this issue?
[04:27] <the2048_> So I had to power off my laptop and now my packages are broken. Yay.
[04:27] <the2048_> "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:27] <the2048_>  python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat : Conflicts: packagekit but 1.1.9-1ubuntu2.18.04.5 is to be installed
[04:27] <the2048_> E: Broken packages"
[04:28] <TJ-> mallu: not sure, but in your strace this stands out as the source of the following errors: "openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.traceroute0n_1ibop~""
[04:28] <the2048_> Might have to boot my live USB, which is always fun.
[04:29] <TJ-> mallu: so I'd check the permission on that directory and files there; compare them with a working installation, see if there are differences
[04:29] <the2048_> Is there any way to unbreak my packages?
[04:29] <the2048_> One thing I noticed is that I'm still on xenial yet apt is retrieving packages for bionic, which is always a bad sign
[04:30] <mallu> TJ-: I was only trying to enable usr.sbin.traceroute
[04:30] <mallu> all the files are owned by root
[04:30] <mallu> Unfortunately this is the first sever in which I am trying to enable apparmor
[04:30] <mallu> so no server to compare with
[04:31] <newbie-chan> TJ-  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in my grub thing if i kill it via  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" may help in my issue?
[04:31] <TJ-> mallu: Hmmm, let me see if I have one lying around with it enabled :)
[04:32] <newbie-chan> i think my issue related to my kernal thing
[04:34] <newbie-chan> gonna try \o/
[04:34] <newbie-chan> cya later
[04:34] <TJ-> mallu: the thing that gets me is "lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR)                   = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)" fd 3 is the orginal usr.sbin.traceroute file but it's been unlinked due to "rename("/etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.traceroute0n_1ibop~", "/etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.traceroute") = 0" ... so not sure what is going on
[04:36] <TJ-> mallu: actually no! there's a "close(3)" there before the rename, then there's pipe2([3,4],...) - it looks like the fds are confused, or at least I am!
[04:36] <TJ-> mallu: how many CPUs/cores has the guest got?
[04:37] <mallu> TJ-: I think it is working now!! I updated bootloader to automatically enable it
[04:37] <mallu> # apparmor_status apparmor module is loaded. 63 profiles are loaded. 25 profiles are in enforce mode.
[04:37] <TJ-> mallu: urgh? you mean the systemd unit for it?
[04:39] <mallu> in the grub I appended apparmor=1 security=apparmor GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="ipv6.disable=1 audit=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor"
[04:40] <mallu> TJ-: can I ignore this ERROR: /etc/apparmor.d/lxc-containers contains no profile
[04:47] <TJ-> mallu: I think so, it seems to be suggesting an empty directory
[04:49] <mallu> thanks TJ-
[07:08] <jack> is there any other burning app besides k3b, brasero, xfburn?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !burn
[07:09] <jack> uh, thx
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> jack: maybe you can search snaps too, havent test myself
[07:10] <jack> i rarely dealt with snaps so far
[07:19] <devslash> a few days ago I did apt-get update and noticed that Xorg was being updated. After I rebooted, I was stuck at 1024x768 resolution i installed nvidia-nkms-390 and was able to increase the resolution to 1900x1080 but my steam games like hotline miami which has very low video requirements lags really really bad and my desktop looks like ubuntu 15 or so not the maroon ubuntu 19 desktop
[07:20] <devslash> it has a mac like dock at the bottom
[07:20] <devslash> when I logged in, I logged in under Gnome on Xorg
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> devslash: wich kernel and chipset please?
[07:26] <devslash> one second please i am trying to install update nvidia drivers
[07:32] <devslash> gtx750 ti
[07:32] <devslash> im using nvidia 430 drivers went back to 1024x768 res.
[07:35] <devslash> lotuspsychje,
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> devslash: i think for a 750 ti the 430 driver is a bit high, wich driver does ubuntu reccomend? ubuntu-drivers list?
[07:38] <devslash> so i rebooted and the resolution is fine now
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:38] <devslash> stupid question but is unity the name for the desfault maroon colored ubuntu desktop ?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> devslash: unity is the DE for ubuntu 16.04
[07:39] <devslash> 19.04
[07:39] <devslash> i mean for 19.04
[07:44] <devslash> what is it called
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> devslash: im not sure what you talk of?
[07:44] <devslash> when you install ubuntu 19.04 what is the default de
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> devslash: gnome3
[07:45] <devslash> ok
[07:45] <devslash> at the login theres gnome and gome on xorg right ?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> devslash: thats gdm login yeah?
[07:46] <devslash> well my desktop doesnt look like that
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> devslash: can you screenshot perhaps?
[07:46] <devslash> it lookslike the old ubuntu with the dock at the bottom
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> devslash: have you been upgrading since 16.04 with unity perhaps?
[07:47] <devslash> i dunno
[07:47] <devslash> it used gnome 3 before
[07:47] <devslash> thats how it looked
[07:47] <devslash> before this issue happened
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> devslash: there was a recent gnome-shell bug actually, maybe you are on gnome fallback or something?
[07:47] <devslash> i dunno how can i tell
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> devslash: screenshot please
[07:50] <devslash> imgur.com/a/CEYN7Mr
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> devslash: seems like gnome3 on 19.04 to me
[07:51] <devslash> but my other computer running gnome3 looks totally different
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> devslash: gnome3 on 18.10 and higher changed alot from 18.04, theme-wise
[07:53] <devslash> https://imgur.com/a/NgDqXXL
[07:53] <devslash> just a slight difference
[07:53] <devslash> my desktop used to look like this
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> devslash: thats just another wallpaper and the dock placed left..
[07:55] <devslash> but how do i change the dock back it didnt look like this previously  the
[07:55] <devslash> i tried the gsettings command and logged out but it didnt do it
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> devslash: in your systemsettings
[07:56] <devslash> ok thanks
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> devslash: are you saying an update placed your dock at bottom?
[07:56] <devslash> somehow yes it changed my desktop
[07:57] <devslash> it went back to 1024x768 resolution
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> devslash: do you have gnome extensions installed?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> devslash: and the update changed wallpaper too?
[08:22] <chaos7> Quit
[08:23] <chaos7> Quit leaving
[08:39] <bryanroderyck> hello can someone help me my laptop is not  shutting down
[08:41] <EriC^> bryanroderyck: try pressing esc and see what its hanging on
[09:06] <bryanroderyck> EriC^  i press esc nothing yet
[09:09] <bryanroderyck> EriC^
[10:13] <cfhowlett> ping!
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !ping
[10:36] <ldz27> hi, i had two gcc compilers (7 and 4.8.5). I installed 4.8.4 from source and changed the symlink. after changing the symlink back to gcc 7 the gcc version is still 4.8.4. please see https://pastebin.com/4FFH33H4 how to change back to gcc7?
[10:41] <blackflow> ldz27: installed how and where?
[10:43] <ldz27> blackflow: through gcc sources with ./configure and make
[10:43] <blackflow> ldz27: under which prefix? where in the filesystem did you install it? As root under /usr/bin?
[10:49] <ldz27> blackflow: sorry, I am no sture. my knowledge about gcc is low. my goal was to get a specific version. I would say inside /usr/local/bin. I set the symlinc to /usr/local/bin/x86_64...gcc-4.8.4. please see https://pastebin.com/3K87ET33
[10:49] <ldz27> *not sure
[10:51] <ldz27> I din't set the prefix explicitly
[10:53] <blackflow> ldz27: well then you possibly broke your system. if it installed anything to a location outside of /usr/local/ you'll need to figure out what, and how to restore from packages. meanwhile, the symlink from /usr/bin/gcc should be to gcc-7 (in the same dir), on Ubuntu Bionic, I'm not sure at the moment what other versions are currently actively supported.
[10:54] <blackflow> and then check what gcc --version says, along with `which gcc` to see which one in the PATH is being used. The supported, packaged, gcc on Ubuntu is /usr/bin/gcc as symlink to specific packaged version
[10:58] <ldz27> blackflow: not sure I can follow you. the symlinc is set to gcc-7 but gcc -v shows the 4.8.4. Could you judge how broken the system is? I mean could be enoguht to reinstall the compilers with apt-get?
[10:59] <blackflow> ldz27: `which gcc`
[11:01] <ldz27> blackflow: ?
[11:01] <ldz27> the default one
[11:01] <blackflow> ldz27: that's the command you should run. `which gcc`. it shows the effect gcc according to precedences in $PATH
[11:02] <ldz27> blackflow: /usr/local/bin/gcc
[11:04] <ldz27> is there a easy way to swich to /usr/bin/gcc :)?
[11:04] <blackflow> ldz27: right. /usr/local/bin takes precedence in default $PATH on ubuntu. you should remove the gcc installed there. I don't remember the gcc Makefile targets OTOH. Either there's a `make uninstall` target, or you'll have to remove files manually.
[11:43] <blackflow> ldz27: of course you can always use the full path to /usr/bin/gcc but that's not gonna help with scripts and Makefiles that don't do that
[12:42] <Sysifoss> Hi, I'm trying to change the ubuntu lockscreen background. A tutorial I found said to edit /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/ubuntu.css but the first line of that says "generated. DO NOT EDIT" Where is this generated from and how can I generate a new one pointing to a different background image?
[12:43] <ioria> Sysifoss, no need to do that: SystemSettings > Background -
[12:48] <Sysifoss> ioria: Looking at that is says my background and lockscreen are set to the image I want but when I boot the login screen is just purple
[12:49] <Sysifoss> ioria: I realize I said lockscreen originally, whoops, meant loginscreen
[12:49] <ioria> Sysifoss, login screen is different from the lock screen ( i guess)
[12:49] <ioria> ah, ok
[12:50] <Sysifoss> if its not something readily known I dont need to change it. its just aethetics not function
[12:50] <Sysifoss> or easily done*
[12:50] <ioria> Sysifoss, no i think you cannot do it (unless you modified some .css system file, but it's generally not recoomended)
[12:51] <Sysifoss> ioria: gotcha! I definitely dont want to modify stuff that says explicitly not to modify it haha
[12:52] <ioria> Sysifoss, 1) those files will be resetted the next gnome-shell upgrade 2) could make your Desktop session not starting at all
[12:54] <Sysifoss> ioria: good to know. I broke plymouth yesterday and look a while to fix it and only just got my grub/plymouth/tty resolution set properly so I'm not looking to wreck my system.
[14:24] <the2048> I've learned something now
[14:25] <the2048> If you leave tilda full-screen for too long, it might break and leave you unable to access your desktop until tilda is killed
[14:53] <the2048> Oh wow, it's quiet in here!
[14:54] <Biessie> thats bcause the support guys here do an awesome job they taught everyone everything htey need to know
[14:54] <the2048> Yeah that's a 100% correct thing
[15:01] <ray02>  hello hello
[15:01] <ray02> i have just created a live-usb
[15:01] <ray02> of ubuntu 19
[15:01] <ray02> but all the time crash
[15:01] <ray02> my machine is a DELL - G5 15 5587
[15:02] <ray02> there is a set up for the machine that i'm forgetting to do?
[15:02] <ray02> is the first time i have this kind of problem
[15:08] <ioria> ray02, haw did you create the media ?
[15:13] <ray02> ioria:  i have another laptop with linux
[15:13] <ioria> ray02, so... with dd ?
[15:13] <ray02> yes i have run this: sudo dd bs=4M if=ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb conv=fdatasync
[15:14] <ioria> ray02, ok, you early said 19
[15:14] <ioria> but ok
[15:14] <ray02> i have tried with 19.04 and 18.0.4
[15:15] <ioria> ray02, at what stage does it crash ? do you get to the main menu ?
[15:15] <ray02> the 19 it load the try mode
[15:15] <ray02> but once there i can't do nothing
[15:15] <ray02> the mouse is not moving
[15:15] <ray02> and either the trackpad
[15:16] <ioria> ray02, what video card ?  gtx1060 ?
[15:16] <ray02> with 18 i'm arrived to install it on the machine
[15:16] <ray02> but when i do the log in  it crash
[15:16] <ray02> it has gtx1050i
[15:17] <the2048> ray02, run memtest86. Might not fix your issue, however bad RAM can cause issues like crashing and stuff
[15:17] <ray02> ok
[15:17] <ray02> let me try
[15:17] <the2048> So it's worthwhile to leave it run memtest86 for about a full day, because it'll take a good while
[15:17] <the2048> It's on the live USB if I remembered right
[15:18] <ioria> ray02, can you quickly try with the 'nomodeset' option ?  press F6
[15:18] <ray02> whad should do the nomodeset?
[15:19] <ray02> *what
[15:19] <ioria> ray02, it helps with the nvidia cards
[15:19] <ray02> ioria: ok
[15:20] <ray02> ioria:  after press F6 now after the login the mouse i moving but is still crash
[15:21] <ray02> before i have installed on this machine linux mint
[15:21] <ioria> ray02, you press F6 and select 'nomodeset'
[15:21] <ray02> ah no
[15:21] <ioria> not just press F6
[15:21] <ray02> there was no menu
[15:23] <ioria> ray02, ok, select 'try mode' then  press 'e'
[15:24] <ioria> ray02, sorry, what login ?  we are talking about installing right ?
[15:25] <coconut> ray02 she's talking about a boot option
[15:25] <ioria> ray02, or you already have installed ubuntu ?
[15:25] <ray02> ah sorry i didn't get it
[15:26] <ioria> ray02, did you install it or not ?
[15:26] <ray02> i have already try to install ubuntu 18 on my machine
[15:26] <ray02> but when i do the log in it crash
[15:26] <ioria> ray02, do you see the grub screen at start ?
[15:26] <ray02> no
[15:27] <ray02> is to fast
[15:27] <ioria> ray02, reboot, press left shift (or esc), and you'll see something like this : https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itdhs1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en
[15:29] <ray02> ah cool
[15:30] <ray02> just a sec
[15:33] <ioria> ray02, highlight  'Ubuntu', press 'e', find the 'linux' line and after 'quiet splash' you add 'nomdeset'; then press F10
[15:33] <ray02> ioria: ok
[15:33] <ray02> is it permanent ?
[15:33] <ray02> or after reboot i will loose it?
[15:33] <ioria> nope
[15:34] <ioria> yes
[15:38] <coconut> ray02 did it work now?
[15:39] <ray02> i'm working on it sorry :p
[15:39] <coconut> that's ok you can take your time
[15:39] <ray02> so i have  add 'nomdeset';
[15:39] <ray02> now i'm try to login
[15:40] <ray02> no nothing is change
[15:40] <TJ-> typo from ioria there! :D ray02 it's "nomodeset" not "nmdeset"
[15:40] <TJ-> i mean, not "nomdeset" even!
[15:40] <ioria> TJ-, right, right tx
[15:41]  * TJ- stamps on his dyslexic fingers
[15:41] <TJ-> ray02: it is just the phrase "no mode set" without spaces
[15:41] <ray02> good i still  have hope :d
[15:42] <ioria> TJ-, i posted a link anyways
[15:42] <ioria> !nomodeset
[15:42] <ray02> ioria: yes i have also see it :d
[15:42] <ioria> ok
[15:43] <ioria> ray02, but honestly i think is a failed installation, not a graphic issue
[15:44] <ray02> ok
[15:44] <ray02> ah
[15:44] <ray02> it worked
[15:44] <ioria> ray02, if it has worked, open a terminal so you can paste some infos
[15:45] <ioria> ray02, ctrl+alt+t
[15:45] <ray02> yes
[15:45] <ray02> ioria:  i'm listen you
[15:46] <ioria> ray02,  type 'uname -r' and paste here the output
[15:46] <ray02> 4.18.0-21-generic
[15:47] <ioria> ray02,  are you chatting from the ubuntu box at the moment ?
[15:47] <ray02> i can't really copy/paste because i'm on another machine but i will try to don't make typo :p
[15:47] <ray02> no no
[15:47] <ioria> ray02,  install a chat client : sudo update && sudo aprt install hexchat
[15:47] <ioria> ray02,  install a chat client : sudo apt update && sudo aprt install hexchat
[15:47] <ioria> omg
[15:48] <ioria> ray02,   sudo apt update && sudo apt install hexchat
[15:49] <ioria> brb
[15:51] <coconut> ray02 next you ask ria how to make this setting permanent
[15:52] <Biessie> WHy would it tell me i have 12 items upgradable but they are being kept back?
[15:52] <ray02> just a sek
[15:53] <coconut> Biessie might be held back because of the category dist-uprade
[15:56] <niXta> My ubuntu server locked up today, I'm not sure how to debug the error. Any ideas?
[15:57] <niXta> I looked at the syslog and didn't see any glaring errors
[15:59] <ioria> ray02,   if you don't want to install a client, you'll need to paste the returned links :   run this : lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'   | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:01] <i7ch> hey guys, having a bit of an issue here with front (heaphones) / back audio out selection. sound work alright, but i would like to keep my headphone always plugged-in in front panel, and then just select which of front or back output to use. right now it work like A) either have the back muted always when headphones are plugged in or B) have both front & back playing at the same time
[16:01] <i7ch> any idea how i could use just one of the at a time? (without unplugging headphone) ?
[16:04] <the2048_tower> While updating my laptop with sudo apt upgrade, it decided to regen the font cache. About 1 minute after it appears to have crashed
[16:04] <the2048_tower> What in the world
[16:07] <ray02> ioria:  now i can't rember my pwd of freenode
[16:07] <ray02> :p
[16:07] <ioria> ray02, tryn to login on #ubuntu
[16:07] <coconut> ray02 can i recommend keepassxc for that?
[16:07] <ray02> i can't if had an unregistred account
[16:10] <ioria> ray02,   can you join #ubuntu-discuss ?
[16:11] <ray02> no same reason
[16:12] <ioria> ray02,   can you join #pippo ?
[16:12] <ray02> to log in i just need to make " /msg NickServ identify [mypasshere]  no?
[16:12] <the2048_tower> Quick question; is it normal to have your PC/laptop hang while it regenerates font cache?
[16:13] <ioria> ray02,   yes,  /msg NickServ identify  <password>
[16:13] <ioria> ray02,   ok, good we chat here and you paste on #pippo, ok ?
[16:14] <ray02> perfect
[16:14] <ioria> ray02,    lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'   | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:15] <ioria> ray02,   you run this in terminal ....
[16:15] <ray02> yes yes
[16:16] <ray02> i just use it for copy and paste
[16:16] <ray02> it give me back a link
[16:16] <coconut> ray02 /msg nickserv help sendpass
[16:16] <ioria> ray02,   sure: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:19] <ray02> it's working
[16:19] <ray02> 73%
[16:19] <ray02> coconut:  ah nice, i will use it later
[16:19] <ray02> now i can't because i'm already logged here
[16:20] <ioria> ray02,   sorry, i have to go away from kb: when the upgarde is done, run 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' and reboot; if it fails you boot again with 'nomodeset'
[16:20] <ray02> ok
[16:20] <ray02> i will use the other chat for share the command
[16:22] <ray02> so all the problem are generedated by the graphic card right?
[16:22] <ray02> ioria:  thansk for the help
[16:23] <ray02> i'm rebooting after install the driver
[16:23] <ray02> let's see
[16:24] <davidystephenson> Hello, I am having trouble booting. I am running 19.04 with kernel 5.0.0-16-generic. I have a Nvidia 1070 graphics card. After an update, I was unable to boot after "bpfilter started". The only solution I could find was to remove all nvidia drivers (after trying 430, 418, 410, and 390) use only X. I am aware of the "disable wayland in gdm" fix, which I believe I have already implemented in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf with no succ
[16:26] <ray02> ioria: it worker very well , thanks for the help
[16:27] <coconut> nice to hear ray02!
[16:27] <ray02> coconut:  but do you think will be risky update the driver of the graphic card?
[16:38] <coconut> sorry, don't know that ray02
[16:39] <ray02> i will not risk again
[16:40] <ray02> i'm in this situation because i have tried to update the driver
[16:40] <ray02> and i ended up with a black screen on the login :D
[16:40] <ray02> so for the moment i'm happy like this
[16:40] <ray02> :d
[16:41] <coconut> have fun ray
[16:41] <ray02> have a good weekend :D
[16:42] <coconut> ty
[16:43] <compdoc> rays, coconuts. i feel like Im at the beach
[16:43] <ray02> compdoc: ahah
[16:43] <ray02> we are almost in summer time no? :D
[16:43] <compdoc> close. hot today
[17:04] <ioria> ray02,  glad to hear
[17:25] <qwebirc55495> I'm not able to use "sudo"
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> elaborate qwebirc55495
[17:26] <solidfox> hello im having a little bit of trouble with my weechat.desktop file, it shows up in the gnome application list but its not launching. https://hatebin.com/bwjqwvjtjp
[17:26] <solidfox> i'm using ubuntu 19.04
[17:27] <qwebirc55495> I accidently did something with the ubuntu permission structure, and now whenever I try to run "sudo", I get this error "sudo: /usr/local/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set"
[17:27] <z3309> qwebirc55495 |-> sudo adduser <username> sudo              #to add new users
[17:28] <qwebirc55495> Well I can't use sudo
[17:28] <qwebirc55495> it gives me this error
[17:28] <z3309> I saw your message too late sorry
[17:28] <solidfox> z3309: that doesn't look like a terminal, that looks more like an address bar like in firefox
[17:28] <OerHeks> solidfox, ugly .desktop file, wrong order, missing path, .. check out https://gist.github.com/ak5/632751af081dad3e0e28
[17:29] <solidfox> OerHeks: what's the difference
[17:29] <OerHeks> solidfox, i am not fgoing to copy paste differences
[17:29] <OerHeks> good luck
[17:30] <qwebirc55495> No prob, do you know what should fix this problem, I tried to search it on the internet and I get 2 results, either reinstall the ubuntu (which I don't want to do) or run some commands in the recovery mode (which I don't think I did correctly)
[17:30] <akik> qwebirc55495: edit your PATH not to use sudo from /usr/local/bin
[17:31] <akik> qwebirc55495: or just run /usr/bin/sudo
[17:31] <qwebirc55495> akik: got same error
[17:32] <ikonia> doubtful
[17:32] <ikonia> as the path is different
[17:32] <solidfox> OerHeks: Path is not required by the spec
[17:32] <solidfox> OerHeks: i've updated it, i'll send you the link
[17:33] <solidfox> its still not working
[17:33] <qwebirc55495> I have a option to reinstall but my laptop is provided by my company and it has multiple user accounts, so I can't just flush those accounts
[17:34] <solidfox> here is my changes https://hatebin.com/alkljijsgi
[17:34] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: past the error after you type /usr/bin/sudo ls
[17:34] <solidfox> here *are my changes
[17:34] <solidfox> OerHeks: i followed all the rules, i think
[17:35] <qwebirc55495> "/usr/bin/sudo" works now how do I give ownnership of "/usr/local/bin/sudo" to root
[17:36] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: you don't
[17:36] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: how did you get a binary /usr/local/bin/sudo ?
[17:36] <solidfox> OerHeks: excuse me, sir... i cannot use the file you sent _exactly_ as it is BECAUSE ITS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM
[17:36] <solidfox> 1 missing e it seems.. there's is some gui program, probably that chinese chat program called wechat. i'm using weechat
[17:36] <solidfox> its a terminal chat client
[17:37] <solidfox> theirs*
[17:37] <qwebirc55495> ikonia: I really don't know
[17:37] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: then stop using it
[17:38] <qwebirc55495> I know I shouldn't use unless it required, but this OS is messed and I don't want mess it up more than it already is
[17:38] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: you shouldn't use it at all
[17:38] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: it's not meant to be there, so don't touch it and stop using /usr/local/bin/sudo
[17:39] <qwebirc55495> but it's required in the project and without "sudo" project will not run
[17:39] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: no it's not
[17:39] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: use /usr/bin/sudo
[17:40] <qwebirc55495> Are you saying that I won't be able to change "/usr/bin/sudo" back to just "sudo"
[17:40] <qwebirc55495> in my commands
[17:40] <ikonia> qwebirc55495: change your path as someone said earlier
[17:40] <akik> qwebirc55495: if you remove /usr/local/bin/sudo, the situation resolves itself
[17:40] <qwebirc55495> Could you please guide me with this, cause I'm a newbie?
[17:41] <qwebirc55495> akik: that means, I'll be able use "sudo"
[17:41] <the2048_tower> So I got updated to 18.04 properly and all, now MATE has a broken theme and such. Should I just reinstall after backing up?
[17:41] <ikonia> echo $PATH then change the order so that /usr/bin is before /usr/local/bin , eg: PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
[17:41] <qwebirc55495> ok
[17:41] <qwebirc55495> let me try
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: updated from wich release?
[17:43] <the2048_tower> lotuspsychje, 16.04.6
[17:43] <the2048_tower> It had some issues, like broken packages after doing do-release-upgrade
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: can you pastebin what happened please?
[17:44] <the2048_tower> This was over 24 hours ago that I had broken package issues; they're resolved but MATE is now a little broken.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: does apt spit out errors at this moment?
[17:45] <the2048_tower> No, not that I know of yet. I'll see if it does
[17:46] <the2048_tower> I'll install a program to see (installing tint)
[17:47] <the2048_tower> Nope, no errors.
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: try switching themes?
[17:47] <the2048_tower> Appearance won't even open because MATE settings daemon isn't starting
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> 2012
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> now:
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't find
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> how to make my mouse work without restarting pc
[17:48] <RonaldsMazitis> USB
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: ask questions all in one line please
[17:49] <the2048_tower> Not to mention my CPU is pegged at 100% and caja won't open so it's hard to back up what little files I had on my PC
[17:49] <solidfox> OerHeks: thanks man i appreciate the help anyways.
[17:49] <RonaldsMazitis> lotuspsychje: You should be glad I asked it in 5
[17:50] <RonaldsMazitis> I have to restart PC to make my mouse work, but after 2-3 minutes, my mouse stops working
[17:50] <RonaldsMazitis> all this kernel staff is too complicated, I thought there would be a GUI in 2019
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: pastebin your dmesg please
[17:53] <qwebirc56060> ikonia: are you here?
[17:53] <the2048_tower> Can I get that as termbin?
[17:54] <solidfox> how do i debug/troubleshoot my .desktop file?
[17:54] <the2048_tower> https://termbin.com/47r2
[17:55] <solidfox> https://hatebin.com/alkljijsgi
[17:55] <qwebirc56060> Where do I change my PATH variable
[17:56] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: hi.
[17:56] <solidfox> 1 sec
[17:56] <the2048_tower> lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/47r2
[17:57] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: you can add this to the end of your ~/.bashrc export PATH="$PATH:/your/additional/entry"
[17:59] <solidfox> hmm sorry maybe you don't need the word "export" there
[18:00] <akik> solidfox: his PATH already contains /usr/local/bin. isn't that the ubuntu default?
[18:00] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: Could you help me with my problem, Where do i find PATH variable?
[18:00] <solidfox> akik: i didnt realize he was trying to add /usr/local/bin. you are correct
[18:01] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: echo $PATH
[18:01] <akik> solidfox: the problem is that he has non working sudo in /usr/local/bin
[18:01] <solidfox> yeah that sounds like a virus
[18:01] <solidfox> unless he did the damage himself
[18:01] <qwebirc56060> solidfox, akik: I may have damaged something
[18:02] <akik> qwebirc56060: if you need it in /usr/local/bin you need to adjust its permissions to match /usr/bin/sudo
[18:02] <akik> qwebirc56060: and be wary that it might use another sudoers config
[18:02] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: tell me the output of ls -la /usr/local/bin/sudo
[18:02] <qwebirc56060> ok
[18:02] <cnnx> hi everyone
[18:03] <qwebirc56060> solifox: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 149080 Jun  8 19:27 /usr/local/bin/sudo
[18:03] <RonaldsMazitis> so how do I restart USB mouse
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: do you have external ppa's added in your system?
[18:03] <RonaldsMazitis> modprobe would not work
[18:03] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: it looks like its missing the setuid permission
[18:03] <the2048_tower> lotuspsychje, I believe I do
[18:03] <RonaldsMazitis> I have googled all over the internet and can't find a solution
[18:03] <cnnx> is there any thing I could use a computer running ubuntu to earn some income?
[18:03] <the2048_tower> I'll re-install, given my install is pretty well broken right now
[18:04] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: "sudo: /usr/local/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" this is the error, hope you get to the solution
[18:04] <RonaldsMazitis> cnnx: find a job and make a CV on libre office
[18:04] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 157192 Feb 19 03:30 /usr/bin/sudo
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: try to !ppapurge your ppa's and packages then update again
[18:04] <cnnx> RonaldsMazitis: I have a job, looking for secondary income.
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: seems like your mate-settings are infinity looping
[18:05] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: chmod u+S /usr/local/bin/sudo
[18:05] <RonaldsMazitis> cnnx; use Your ubuntu to program lights for your tomatoes
[18:05] <RonaldsMazitis> and sell tomatoes
[18:05] <cnnx> RonaldsMazitis: huh?
[18:05] <the2048_tower> There's  nothing of value on my system anyways, so re-installing with fresh 18.04.2 would be a decent idea imo
[18:05] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: i dont understand why you would need to do all this. you should reinstall ubuntu
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> the2048_tower: the suers choice
[18:06] <the2048_tower> Maybe I'll put 19.04 if it exists on it
[18:06] <cnnx> RonaldsMazitis: I prefer to put a light deep in my greek pita.
[18:06] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: invalid mode: 'u+S', can't do that
[18:07] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: yes,  I should but I can't cause it has multiple user accounts so I just can't remove them by reinstalling the ubuntu
[18:07] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: sorry it was lowercase s afterall
[18:08] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/sudo
[18:08] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: I thought that too, but it says Operation not permitted
[18:08] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: who is the administrator?
[18:08] <solidfox> is it you?
[18:09] <qwebirc56060> solidfox: my account was created as an admin
[18:09] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: do you know the root password?
[18:09] <akik> qwebirc56060: you probably need to use /usr/bin/sudo in front of that command :)
[18:09] <qwebirc56060> soliddfox: no
[18:10] <akik> qwebirc56060: didn't you say /usr/bin/sudo is working for you?
[18:10] <qwebirc56060> akik: oh, I thought he was asking about the first owner of the ubuntu
[18:10] <solidfox> yeah try that /usr/bin/sudo chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/sudo
[18:11] <solidfox> this seems nefarious
[18:11] <solidfox> but i do not know
[18:11] <akik> i usually don't ask why people do what they do. they must know better
[18:12] <akik> and environments have different requirements
[18:12] <solidfox> akik: in linux, any program with setuid permission can become root, without the password
[18:12] <qwebirc56060> akik, solidfox: it solved, now I can use "sudo" alone, but I shouldn't for every command
[18:13] <solidfox> ok now for MY problem
[18:13] <solidfox> my weechat.desktop file is not working, i don't understand what is wrong. https://hatebin.com/alkljijsgi
[18:13] <EriC^^> qwebirc56060: why are you using a local version of sudo? sorry just curious
[18:13] <solidfox> it shows up in the menu but it wont launch
[18:13] <qwebirc56060> akik, solidfox: Thank you soooooo much, I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
[18:13] <solidfox> how can i troubleshoot this
[18:13] <akem_> Hey, i just installed lighttpd from apt on Ubuntu 18.04, i didn't change any configuration, just started the binary and i got a bad error: https://pastebin.com/WakhQYwb
[18:14] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: i'm here merely because of my passing whim
[18:14] <solidfox> qwebirc56060: but it is a good channel. glad you solved it
[18:14] <akem_> I think the package is broken.
[18:14] <EriC^^> solidfox: is that a custom .desktop file?
[18:14] <solidfox> EriC^^: yes sir
[18:15] <EriC^^> solidfox: did you +x the file?
[18:15] <solidfox> EriC^^: no
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> akem_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/1453463
[18:15] <EriC^^> solidfox: try to +x it
[18:16] <EriC^^> solidfox: actually nevermind
[18:16] <EriC^^> solidfox: where is the file placed?
[18:16] <solidfox> EriC^^: i tried, it still won't launch
[18:16] <solidfox> EriC^^: /home/eric/.local/share/applications
[18:16] <akem_> lotuspsychje, yes it's the same bug.
[18:16] <akem_> lotuspsychje, thanks.
[18:16] <EriC^^> solidfox: which terminal do you usually use?
[18:17] <solidfox> EriC^^: gnome-terminal
[18:17] <solidfox> i removed xterm
[18:17] <EriC^^> solidfox: try Exec=gnome-terminal -e "/usr/bin/weechat"
[18:18] <ankk> ignore how¿
[18:18] <ankk> wrong place
[18:18] <solidfox> EriC^^: an error flashes then the terminal closes now
[18:18] <solidfox> i cant read it
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> akem_: was your system up to date?
[18:19] <EriC^^> solidfox: try Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/usr/bin/weechat; bash'"
[18:20] <akem_> lotuspsychje, Yes, i installed gamin as they say in the comments and that fixed the issue.
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> akem_: weird, as last comment says fix released
[18:22] <solidfox> EriC^^: it says -e is depracted
[18:22] <solidfox> EriC^^: im on ubuntu 19.04
[18:23] <EriC^^> solidfox: try "man gnome-terminal"
[18:23] <solidfox> haha ok
[18:23] <EriC^^> see what it says about -e
[18:23] <EriC^^> i'm on 16.04 its still there for me :D
[18:24] <solidfox> its still in the manual
[18:24] <solidfox> but it yells at me anyways :<
[18:24] <EriC^^> solidfox: try replacing -e with --commend="bash -c....
[18:24] <solidfox> i'll try -x
[18:25] <EriC^^> *--command=
[18:25] <ioria> solidfox,  you want a weechat launcher ? try this maybe : https://termbin.com/lyl3r
[18:25] <ioria> solidfox,  just add your icon path
[18:26] <solidfox> ok let me try it with weechat close
[18:26] <solidfox> ioria: thanks it works
[18:27] <ioria> ok
[18:27] <solidfox> i wish i could have it stay in its icon though
[18:27] <solidfox> it moves to terminal icon
[18:28] <ioria> solidfox,  it display the wrong icon ?
[18:28] <EriC^^> solidfox: i think that's cause the window manager organizes all similar ones to the same tab
[18:29] <solidfox> EriC^^: yes
[18:29] <solidfox> ioria: the launcher is the correct icon
[18:29] <EriC^^> solidfox: i think if you make a custom profile for it in the terminal or something, you could get the window manager to differentiate between the 2 terminal instances
[18:29] <solidfox> if terminal can have an icon that would be good
[18:29] <Gallomimia> how can i share my wireless connection to my other computer, connected by ethernet?
[18:30] <solidfox> nah guess it cant be done
[18:30] <ioria> solidfox,  beacuse it's grouped
[18:30] <solidfox> ioria: yes
[18:30] <ioria> solidfox,  you in the dock, right ?
[18:30] <EriC^^> solidfox: it can be , but it needs some work
[18:30] <solidfox> ioria: yes
[18:30] <Gallomimia> anyone? connection sharing? what happened to that feature?
[18:30] <ioria> yeap, old problem
[18:30] <solidfox> EriC^^: i dont see any icon in profile preferences
[18:31] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: in network manager edit the connection and where it says dhcp automatic put shared to other computers
[18:31] <solidfox> ok im going to play a game
[18:31] <solidfox> afk
[18:33] <Gallomimia> i'm not seeing that EriC^^ is it gone from 19.04??\
[18:34] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: no idea, i dont imagine so
[18:34] <ioria> solidfox,  you need a --class=Weechat and a StartupWMClass=Weechat in .desktop, but in this moment i don't remember the details
[18:34] <Gallomimia> oh i'm seeing it in nm-connection-editor
[18:34] <Gallomimia> uh, do i put that in the wired connection, or the wifi link to the router?
[18:34] <EriC^^> i remember it being counterintuitive, so put it in the wired connection
[18:35] <Gallomimia> that sounds right
[18:35] <Gallomimia> the connection method shouldn't change for the wifi
[18:36] <EriC^^> yeah but it says 'connection share to other computers"
[18:37] <EriC^^> it's kinda odd, you'd imagine you want the wifi to be 'shared to other computers'
[18:37] <Gallomimia> it's european. forgivable :P
[18:37] <EriC^^> did it work using the wired?
[18:37] <Gallomimia> yeah. but if i change the settings for wifi, it should kick me off here right?
[18:37] <Gallomimia> no it's still not quite... happening
[18:38] <EriC^^> does 'ping 8.8.8.8' work on the other pc?
[18:39] <Gallomimia> uh. whoa it does
[18:39] <Gallomimia> but not dns
[18:39] <Gallomimia> host google.com fails
[18:39] <Gallomimia> no longer fails. working fine i guess
[18:39] <Gallomimia> here i had feared another feature had been removed in the name of "progress" thanks
[18:40] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ah great, np
[18:41] <ioria> solidfox,  ok:  Exec=/usr/bin/weechat --class=foo  %u     ; and  at the end : StartupWMClass=foo
[19:00] <solidfox> ioria: foo?
[19:00] <ioria> foo foo
[19:00] <solidfox> ???
[19:01] <solidfox> ioria: lol idk what to do
[19:01] <ioria> foo means whatever
[19:01] <solidfox> what does it do?
[19:02] <ioria> solidfox, detaches from the terminal icon
[19:02] <solidfox> ok let me try it
[19:02] <solidfox> brb
[19:03] <solidfox> ioria: it works perfectly
[19:03] <solidfox> thank you
[19:03] <ioria> solidfox, ok, no prob
[19:04] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello. Need a suggestion for encrypting my SSD Drives on Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks LUKS or Veracrypt? or something else?
[19:04] <Mr_Cyclops> Need to ensure I can use FSTRIM and that data doesn't go bad
[19:04] <solidfox> Mr_Cyclops: idk what FSTRIM is but i have been using LUKS and it works great
[19:05] <solidfox> SSD is still screaming-fast
[19:05] <Mr_Cyclops> solidfox, I have been a LUKS user myself, but on regular SATA Drives. FSTRIM is what clears unused blocks on the SSDs so that it doesn't slow down trying to find new blocks for storage
[19:06] <solidfox> that shouldnt be a problem
[19:06] <solidfox> did you notice a performance cost?
[19:07] <Mr_Cyclops> nope, but it's not about performance only. I am looking for cross-platform options too. So that my wife can used the drive on her Windows laptop as well, LUKS is only Linux
[19:07] <Mr_Cyclops> so many reasons why I am looking for alternatives
[19:07] <Mr_Cyclops> tx
[19:08] <solidfox> Mr_Cyclops: you can mount the drive in linux server vm, and then sftp in with something easy like winscp
[19:10] <solidfox> or just use veracrypt yeah
[19:10] <solidfox> or gpg
[19:11] <solidfox> bitlocker is only windows
[19:11] <solidfox> APFS encrypted is only apple
[19:11] <solidfox> aka FileVault
[19:11] <solidfox> yeah man you know what to do though
[19:12] <solidfox> verycrypt gpg
[19:14] <Mr_Cyclops> solidfox, thanks :) but like I said, its my wife who is not technical, need a simpler way. But I do appreciate your time and suggestions a lot. Cheers! :)
[19:36] <TJ-> FYI: Mr_Cyclops enquiry. for LUKS, in crypttab, supprting FSTRIM with the "discard" option. For cross-platform cryptsetup can support veracrypt
[19:44] <curlyears> heigh hough
[19:44] <curlyears> help, please?
[19:46] <OerHeks> ask, wait and see, curlyears
[19:47] <curlyears> ptop to Ububtu 18.04.2, buht I have been tryig since last night, and IaNNT GET THE Dmned file to downloasd to completio.  It keeps stopping partway there (nom not  in the same place eaCH TIME)o
[19:48] <curlyears> damn, I hate tis notebook
[19:50] <curlyears> unfortunnately, I zam forced to exist on this POS, since my desktop went comatgose after a SECURITY UPDate from canonical.  Finished with no  indicated errors, told ,e to reoot.   I did, and nnow thr systemwon't even oot into its BIOS  (??)O
[19:51] <curlyears> anyone have aNY ADVIXCE?  i'D HATE TO PAY A $50 minimum bench fee if I don't HAVE to
[19:51] <solidfox> curlyears: you need to check your bios, but an internal tool will not due, since i fake bios can lie about itself
[19:52] <curlyears> how to check, and fr what>   Also the bios has een working fine for  over a year, now, after this update, suddenly it's "fake?"
[19:52] <solidfox> curlyears: yes
[19:53] <ikonia> curlyears: ubuntu can't touch your bios
[19:53] <ikonia> curlyears: so you'd do better to try to look at what can and has touched your machine
[19:53] <solidfox> ikonia: learn about flashrom
[19:53] <ikonia> or if it's as simple as a fatal hardware failure triggered on reboot
[19:53] <ikonia> solidfox: I'm aware of flashrom
[19:53] <solidfox> ikonia: ok
[19:53] <ikonia> ubuntu doesn't ship those updates though from the main repos
[19:54] <solidfox> ikonia: oh yes you are correct
[19:54] <solidfox> ubuntu does not touch the bios
[19:54] <solidfox> by itself
[19:54] <curlyears> ikonia: so I thought.   But thingds were running hunky-dorey until I put on that security update from canonical
[19:55] <ikonia> curlyears: the security update from canonical does not touch your bios
[19:55] <ikonia> curlyears: it can be as simple as a hardware failure triggered by the reboot
[19:55] <curlyears> Ikonio"  since MI can't get it to reboot to BIOS, how am I going to do that?
[19:56] <ikonia> curlyears: take it to a professional if it won't post
[19:56] <ikonia> but if it won't post no operating system support channel can help
[19:56] <solidfox> curlyears: do you have a soldering iron?
[19:56] <curlyears> $59h bench fee, here I come.
[19:57] <OerHeks> power off the machine, unplug powercord, hold power button for 10-30 sec, then enable powercord and see if you can boot into bios
[19:57] <solidfox> OerHeks: good advice
[19:57] <curlyears> No, I do not have a soldering iron anymore, and I am NOT taking any sokldering tool to the motherboard.   My hands are too shakey, and my eyes too blurry for that to be a good idea
[19:57] <NGRhodes> Try booting without the hdd plugged in, wonder if its a TPM thing ?
[20:01] <curlyears> nope, no difference,OerHeks.   OH!  on the lower right corner of the screen,  DEW TWEXT DIGITS SHOW UP.  sTOPS CHANGIG AT 99, AND NEVER DOES nything else.  this it used to do before, but it always booted to BIOS after that
[20:01] <curlyears> wo text digits.
[20:01] <curlyears> two
[20:02] <ikonia> try the guys in ##hardware
[20:03] <OerHeks> oh, micro code update, perhaps?
[20:05] <OerHeks> bug 1829620
[20:05] <OerHeks> but this is -edge, not that many people know about this HWE
[20:05] <ikonia> it's not getting that far according to curlyyears
[20:05] <ikonia> he was saying it's not posting
[20:05] <ikonia> he's gone now
[20:07] <OerHeks> oke
[20:08] <OerHeks> ikonia, but if you ruun into that issue, see bug 1831789 with solution  Add "dis_ucode_ldr" to linux boot options
[20:08] <solidfox> what could a fake bios even do?
[20:08] <OerHeks> to disable microcode, but indeed he does not get this far
[20:09] <ikonia> OerHeks: he can't even get to a boot option though
[20:09] <OerHeks> uhuh, and resetting hard does not fix this bios thingy.. odd
[20:22] <lbracher> Hi there! I would like to change the directory where windows partition is mounted. Currently is OS1 and I would like to change do OS. I didn't find the entry on fstab, so I'm clueless on how Ubuntu does that. Thanks in advance!
[20:24] <OerHeks> maybe the windows partition name is OS1 ?
[20:24] <Gallomimia> where is your windows partition mounted now? how do you mount it?
[20:24] <OerHeks> that would be logical, mounted on /media/
[20:25] <Gallomimia> well it won't be in fstab then
[20:25] <lbracher> Is mounted on /media/user/OS1. Ubuntu installer found it and mounted automatically since installation.
[20:25] <Gallomimia> you'll have to add it
[20:26] <lbracher> Gallomimia, i'll do that. Thank you!
[20:26] <OerHeks> ubuntu sees that partition, but does not mount it. it is just available in 'files'
[20:26] <Gallomimia> odd that it mounts auto
[20:27] <Gallomimia> things in /media/user are mounted usually by some other process than fstab. usually by something in the GUI
[20:27] <Gallomimia> such as inserting a disk or thumbstick
[20:27] <lbracher> Do I need to get the UUID partition in order to put in on fstab or can I do that in old fashion way, just typing the name of partition?
[20:27] <Gallomimia> no. uuid's are just safer
[20:28] <lbracher> And how can I get it?
[20:28] <Gallomimia> uh.... a tool? read it off from disks GUI or
[20:28] <Sorin84> Hello! Can I use unsupported scanner in a Windows virtual machine that runs in Ubuntu?
[20:28] <Gallomimia> sorry i can't remember the command
[20:28] <Gallomimia> lsblk might help
[20:29] <lbracher> Gallomimia, I'm really lost, a lot of things changed in last 10 years. I'll try lsblk. Thank you! :)
[20:29] <Gallomimia> yeah me too
[20:29] <Gallomimia> i'm actually here to ask about cloning a partition on a hard drive, sucking it into my LVM container
[20:30] <Gallomimia> the partition is currently booting the system. the one i have tethered to this one
[20:30] <Gallomimia> last time i tried to dd a bootable partition it yelled at me
[20:31] <Gallomimia> oh. so yeah. i have two bootable partitions that i want to dd to another drive(set)
[20:32] <Gallomimia> on each of these machines. this one has win7 on a platter drive, and a brand new SSD that i want used for dual boot
[20:32] <Gallomimia> maybe i should reinstall windows from a dvd
[20:35] <NGRhodes> @Gallamimia Id boot from a live USB and dd the unmounted partition
[20:36] <Gallomimia> in the case of the windows machine, that gives me an error of 4.1gb copied, no room left on device
[20:37] <Gallomimia> google searches say things about not being able to copy onto an existing partition
[20:37] <de-facto> How would I open the same PDF twice in two independent windows? Evince seems to know that i should not do this :((
[20:37] <de-facto> I need this for comparison
[20:37] <de-facto> different paragraphs from same pdf
[20:38] <Gallomimia> you could always dupe the file and name it something else
[20:38] <Gallomimia> a simple hack to sidestep your problem
[20:38] <de-facto> yeah i could trick gnome not to know better than myself, but it does not feel right to always do such plays
[20:39] <Gallomimia> depends how often you do this yes
[20:39] <thsnr> there should be a "Open a Copy" option under the hamburger menu
[20:39] <Gallomimia> are there reader programs that show multiple views?
[20:40] <de-facto> ah i thought it would not work (because it shows just background) but once i begin scrolling in that "ghost" window it seems to begin to show content... thanks
[20:44] <curlyears> hellko aGAIN.  XCan someone please o
[20:44] <Gallomimia> o
[20:45] <curlyears> point me ti a RELIABLE downloAD SITE FRO 18.04.2?\
[20:46] <curlyears> IS THEERE NO 18.10?
[20:46] <de-facto> http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/
[20:47] <curlyears> DE-FA:  YEAH.  tHAT OE HAS DROPPED MY CONNECTION AFTER 1/3 TO 1/2 OF THE DOWN.OLAD BEING OMPLETE ABOUT 6 TIMERS TODASY
[20:47] <jeremy31> curlyears: 18,10 is only supported until August
[20:47] <curlyears> damned capslock key
[20:47] <de-facto> uhm http can resume via byte range requests
[20:47] <de-facto> or use the torrent
[20:47] <curlyears> I don't have a torrent client.
[20:48] <Gallomimia> but. you have the internet
[20:48] <de-facto> get one and resume the download via http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[20:48] <Gallomimia> firefox and chrome both support download resumes
[20:49] <curlyears> I am attempmting to update this PO HP pROBOOK TO LINUX, SO i CAN ACTUALLY use IT
[20:49] <curlyears> i DON'T HAVE FIREFOX, THOUGH i SUPPOSE i COUDFL dl AND INSTALL IY.  bUY ON wINDOWS?
[20:49] <Gallomimia> the edge browser doesn't support resumed downloads?
[20:49] <curlyears> ut on Windows?
[20:50] <coconut> curlyears would you mind to disable your shift?
[20:50] <curlyears> Gallomimia: apparently not.  I can't et it to actually resume, in any case
[20:50] <Gallomimia> at any rate, i strongly recomend against flashing an OS install disk using winblows
[20:50] <Gallomimia> freedom haters, that company
[20:50] <curlyears> coconut: WOULD YOU MID EXPLAINGIN TO ME HOW TO DO THAT UNDER Win10?
[20:51] <curlyears> damned shift key
[20:51] <Gallomimia> grab a butter knife, jam it under the shift key, and pry
[20:51] <Gallomimia> disabled.
[20:52] <curlyears> Gallomimia: threnn how in hell am I supposed to get linux on this omputer?
[20:53] <curlyears> Gallomimia: it is too well glused, or how ever they retain their keycaps>  I have tried to pry it can't find a way to do it without ruingin the keyboard
[20:53] <Gallomimia> before putting the shift key back on, clean underneath with a vacuum, air duster, and alcohol on a Q-tip
[20:53] <Gallomimia> a lappy? be real gentle. usually the bottom side is best to pry at
[20:54] <de-facto> curlyears, if you want to install linux first calm down and try to think (you gonna need not to mess up harddisk partitions etc later). Then make sure you get a proper download either by resuming HTTP download and recheck integrity with the md5 checksum or use torrent client if your internet connection really is that choppy
[20:54] <curlyears> I;ve tried
[20:54] <Gallomimia> seems to me that there's a copious quantity of tea and crumpets under that one
[20:54] <Gallomimia> check for free space on your disk
[20:55] <Gallomimia> if it keeps cutting off at the same area, sounds like full disk error
[20:55] <curlyears> well, I note that whe I walkaway and come back to my keyboard an hour or so later, my IRC connection has been dropped at least several times while I was gone
[20:56] <Gallomimia> wifi?
[20:56] <Gallomimia> WOW you wait for an hour to download an OS image??
[20:56] <curlyears> Gallomimia: yeah, but fro my own Wifi router/switch
[20:57] <Gallomimia> the connection drops from interference
[20:57] <Gallomimia> wire it up
[20:57] <de-facto> curlyears, well it seems that your internet connection is not reliable and drops TCP connections (IRC, HTTP) hence i suggested torrent
[20:57] <Gallomimia> turn off your microwave
[20:57] <curlyears> Gallo:  no, usua.ly only 30 minutes or so...it *IS* 1.9GB ya kw
[20:57] <Gallomimia> turn off your cordless phone
[20:57] <Gallomimia> yeah. that's a 5 minute download with modern speeds
[20:57] <curlyears> I don't use a cordless phone
[20:58] <curlyears> Gallo:  according the pectrum, my D/L speed shuld be 200Mbps
[20:58] <Gallomimia> hah. i'm about to hook up a cordless phone next to mine and get the same problem!
[20:58] <curlyears> Spectrum (my ISP)
[21:00] <Gallomimia> well. grab a cat5e cable and plug it in. see if that fixes
[21:00] <lbracher> Gallomimia, disk's UUID are in /dev/disk/by-uuid . I just discovered that.
[21:00] <Gallomimia> ohhhh yeah
[21:00] <Gallomimia> but does it tell you which is which
[21:00] <curlyears> ppoe that might help
[21:00] <Gallomimia> no.
[21:00] <curlyears> yeah, I sup[p[ose
[21:00] <lbracher> Gallomimia, yes. There are soft links to the partitions
[21:00] <Gallomimia> pppoe is for a DSL connection or something
[21:00] <Gallomimia> okay so just an ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[21:01] <curlyears> KOK, thanks, fwellows
[21:06] <Gallomimia> groan. the LVM tools available these days are all paid?
[21:07] <signalsout> :D
[21:07] <OerHeks> no.
[21:10] <semchapeu> I have two linux machines each with a directory with mostly the same content. However both have some files that the other does not. I want to copy the missing files from each machine to the other over the network, what would be a simple way to do this?
[21:10] <OerHeks> semchapeu, rsync, and grsync as a gui perhaps
[21:11] <OerHeks> !info rsync
[21:12] <de-facto> rsync + ssh is really awesome for such tasks
[21:13] <semchapeu> thanks OerHeks, de-facto
[21:18] <de-facto> semchapeu, make sure to read the manual and try with --dry-run first :)
[21:24] <lbracher> Gallomimia, I just fixed that problem on directory mount. I discovered a OS directory in /media/user, deleted it and rebooted. Everything is on place now.
[21:29] <semchapeu> de-facto: so how do I know my dry run would have done what I wanted?
[21:30] <de-facto> it should print out what it would do
[21:30] <de-facto> if you dont suppress logging of course
[21:30] <semchapeu> it does, it lists all the files it would copy I guess
[21:31] <semchapeu> it's a bit more than I thought
[21:31] <semchapeu> but I guess it looks correct
[21:32] <de-facto> thats why I suggested  --dry-run first, so you dont mess up with one-shot :) make sure its sane...
[21:33] <de-facto> the manpage has a lot of tweaking options to help with deciding which files should be synced
[21:35] <semchapeu> I used grsync to "generate" the command for me, however grsync doesn't ask me for my ssh creds so I took the command to run it in the terminal, so I think all the flags should be correct
[21:38] <curlyears> j
[21:38] <curlyears> has nayone inn here heard of or seen anything on "Xtra-PC?"
[21:38] <de-facto> well i guess so, just make sure it really will do what you intend with --dry-run :)
[21:56] <semchapeu> de-facto: thanks again
[22:38] <JoeLlama> Ready to Laugh?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlaWGd1cUms
[23:38] <JimBuntu> JoeLlama, This channel is for support requests or replies. Your info is very welcome on #ubuntu-offtopic though, really
[23:41] <JimBuntu> Seriously JoeLlama , please repost in #ubuntu-offtopic as it's a funny clip
[23:41] <muniter> Hey guys, does anybody know what wikisoftware does https://wiki.ubuntu.com run on. MediaWiki, Dokuwiki?
[23:41] <muniter> guys and girls*
[23:41] <JimBuntu> Thanks muniter
[23:50] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[23:50] <JoeLlama> sorry (:
[23:52] <JimBuntu> Never be sorry JoeLlama
[23:53] <JimBuntu> It's slow, we get to say that :)
[23:57] <superboot> Hi all. I'm writing a simple netplan YAML config: http://sprunge.us/lFMjAG
[23:57] <superboot> I'm getting error: Error in network definition //etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml line 8 column 14: expected mapping