[00:01] TJ-, yes, the file is just copied "grub-install : information : copying `/usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed' -> `/boot/efi/EFI/@dingo/shimx64.efi'. [00:01] " [00:02] when I "md5sum /boot/efi/EFI/@dingo/*" or "md5sum /boot/efi/EFI/@cuttlefish/*" the md5sum are the same expect for grub.cfg [00:02] but it's always "/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg" that is taken anyway [00:02] so it means it's hardcoded [00:03] TJ-, I know there something about signed images, but I don't see how to not use that [00:03] don't know how [00:05] mirak: are you using Secure Boot? [00:05] mirak: "apt list --installed grub*signed* " [00:08] TJ-, grub-efi-amd64-signed/disco,now 1.115+2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2 amd64 [installé, automatique] [00:08] it's installed [00:09] mirak: there's the cause then, when you do grub-install all it does is COPY the binary from that package which obviously has the same path [00:10] mirak: just watch "grub-install -v ..." [00:10] TJ-, yes, obviously [00:11] mirak: to work around it you'd have to add your own Machine Owners Key (MOK) to the system, build your own grub core.image files and sign them [00:11] TJ-, however what doesn't make sense is that you can't really prevent ubuntu from changing things that don't break your setup [00:12] TJ-, if it was automated it would be be ok, but I guess it's not [00:12] mirak: yes you can; only all grub-install to run in ONE ubuntu install and then let GRUB's own menu pick up the other OSs using os-prober functionality [00:12] s/only all/only allow/ [00:13] TJ-, the other solution, would be that ubuntu and grub, doesn't change EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg . This way it could point to another grub.cfg [00:14] that grub.cfg would boot core.img from other partitions [00:14] that's what I do on bios systems [00:14] mirak: that's what I said if you build your own core.image [00:15] TJ-, but each time the system update-grub, it will mess [00:15] I am not sure what is your idea here [00:16] mirak: but to do that you have to either 1) disable secure boot and remove the grub-signed package 2) enroll your own MOK, remove the grub-signed package, and sign your own core.image or 3) only allow ONE GRUB to do grub-install/update-grub for all Ubuntu installs, and rely on os-prober in that install to build a menu that includes all versions [00:17] TJ-, as far I remember, grub-install can only be run manually, so it's ok [00:17] mirak: my idea is, if you DO NOT use the grub-signed package, then you get to build your own custom core.image every time you run grub-install, so it'll take and honour the options you give it, like --bootloader-id=XXXX [00:17] however update-grub is run at each kernel upgrade [00:18] and it seems update-grub is calling efibootmgr [00:18] mirak: "sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/sbin/update-grub.divert --rename /usr/sbin/update-grub; sudo rm /usr/sbin/update-grub; sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub" [00:19] mirak: do that ^^^ in all but 1 of the Ubuntu installs [00:19] TJ-, it seems it doesn't touch efibootmgr, sorry [00:20] mirak: grub-install calls efibootmgr [00:20] only grub-install does [00:20] you'd want to dpkg-divert /usr/sbin/grub-install too as a precaution [00:20] I see [00:21] that way any scripts/tools that do call those 2 get a /bin/true reply and assume it worked [00:21] and any package upgrades only change the diverted+renamed file [00:21] in fact there is no way to avoid grub-install to modify EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg [00:22] that would do the trick, if I put the multiboot info straigth into EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg [00:22] mirak: there isn't for the *signed* core.image, but there is for the regular unsigned custom-built-linked version [00:22] and if it doesn't change efibootmgt, because as you say, you still need to run grub-install to build the core.img [00:23] TJ-, what is the trick ? sorry, i missed it [00:23] I kind of get it [00:24] without the grub-signed package, setting GRUB_DISTROBUTOR= should be sufficent to handle both update-grub and grub-install using a different path in /EFI/${GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR_/ [00:24] My typing is going AWOL; too tired [00:26] but what I did on my bios install was a grub .cfg with multiple entries like "multiboot /@dingo/boot/grub/core.img" . When I want to add a new system, I just create another line. And create the core.img with grub-install when chrooting the new system [00:26] TJ-, ok thanks [00:26] TJ-, but will my windows 10 still boot ? [00:27] mirak: BUT it doesn't (at least on 18.04) - must be a bug there somewhere [00:27] TJ-, ha [00:27] mirak: this won't affect Windows, assuming it also boots using UEFI (unless Windows insists on Secure Boot and you've gone the disable-secure-boot route) [00:31] ok [00:31] good night [00:31] thanks [00:37] mirak: OK, I was wrong, GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="xxxx" does work BUT xxxx cannot contain anything but the ASCII chars A-Z (I had a space in it!) [00:41] and they get converted to lower-case for use [00:46] I'm trying to intall the `hstr` package, following the instructions here: https://github.com/dvorka/hstr/blob/master/INSTALLATION.md#ubuntu I'm getting an error: https://pastebin.com/XiT3qWYd Not sure if it's a good idea to force-download it, with `trusted=true` or something...anyone know how to fix this? :) [00:46] install* [00:49] i read unicorn ... Ubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn ? [00:49] man, what a mess with ppa's and foreign debian stuff [00:55] remove that apt.typesafe.com, and https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/toolchain does not have bionic packages [00:56] :-) [01:01] i need help creating a grub iso to boot a physical partition. i have a linux dual boot with windows using grub-efi. windows, linux, and efi partitions are all on the same drive. i also want to boot the linux partition as a guest under vmware in windows. vmware can't open the efi partition (which is in use by windows), so i need to make a new grub iso and put it in a virtual optical drive. how do i do ... [01:01] ... this? tutorials i've seen tell me to use files from under /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/, but my system doesn't have that, as it doesn't use BIOS grub, it just uses efi grub. i have /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi and /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi-signed. here's one such tutorial: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-dual-boot-and-virtualize-the-same-partition-on-y-493223329 [01:02] are there screensaver settings in ubuntu? === zbenjamin is now known as Guest18813 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === westor{off} is now known as westor [01:05] I'm having problems with tracker package. Every time I start downloading with qBittorrent, tracker starts up and eats A LOT of CPU. [01:05] When I stop download, tracker also stops. [01:07] The process name is tracker-extract and tracker-miner-fs [01:08] And I cant even delete the tracker package bc ubuntu desktop depends on it [01:08] Very frustrating, please tell me what to do [01:09] tracker is a search indexer. bit torrent does a lot of writes all the time. [01:09] you can probably set up tracker to exclude specific directories. [01:10] the maintainers of the qbittorrent package should have added that exclusion for where ever qbittorrent downloads to. [01:10] you should contact them and complain. [01:10] note: complain the maintainers of the ubuntu package, not of the qbittorrent software source code [01:11] I honestly dont think tracker should reindex the whole file every time a single byte is written. [01:12] neither do i [01:13] cheater: you could create a second EFI-SP and copy the GRUB boot files into it, and attach that to your VMware guest [01:13] TJ-: i'm not sure how to do that. i wouldn't like to fuck with EFI since it's fragile as it is. i'd much rather set up a bios grub that i can boot from. [01:13] cheater: GRUB's core image (grubx64.efi) rarely needs to change so it would be pretty reliable [01:14] TJ-: i'd still like to use a BIOS grub, just to be happy [01:14] Ubuntu bug tracker is a mess, I wish someone would direct me to where do I post my complaint. [01:14] And I'm much more interested in disabling this thing. [01:15] Disabling usage history in setting did not help. [01:16] cheater: create an additional (small) partition (by small I mean between 2 and 64MB) then format it "mkfs.vfat -F 16 /dev/sdX9", mount it: "sudo mkdir /mnt/efi; sudo mount /dev/sdX9 /mnt/efi; sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/EFI/ubuntu; sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/* /mnt/efi/EFI/ubuntu/; sudo umount /mnt/efi " [01:16] fastfresh: i don't think it's about usage history [01:17] TJ-: thanks. i'll copy that to my notes and if i can't figure out how to get a bios grub happening, i'll use your method. [01:17] cheater: if you want to do BIOS boot you could create a 2MB partition (rarely needs more than 1MB) in any spare space on the disk (type EF02) and "grub-install /dev/sdZ9" it from "grub-pc" package [01:18] type EF02 (in gdisk tooling speak) is a BIOS_BOOT GPT type [01:19] cheater: that's allow a VMware BIOS to boot GRUB [01:19] cheater: but as I said, you'd need to use 'grub-pc' package to do the grub-install correclty for BIOS mode boot [01:20] TJ-: could i do the following? 1. boot vmware using ubuntu iso placed in a virtual cdrom, the physical linux partition on my ssd, and a vmdk for grub. i'm booting ubuntu in live mode. 2. somehow install grub in live mode to the small additional partition, and make its menu boot the physical ubuntu? [01:21] cheater: e.g. to create the partition "sudo sgdisk --new=0:0:0 --typecode=0:EF02 /dev/sdZ" will find the largest remaining free space on sdZ and use it for the next partition number that is available [01:21] cheater: the Ubuntu ISOs have hybrid boot capability; however, in BIOS mode they use Syslinux NOT GRUB. GRUB on those is only used for UEFI mode boots [01:22] right, but even if they use syslinux, can i still install grub-pc on the live system to use it as you described? [01:22] OerHeks was that meant for me? [01:22] cheater: correct [01:23] ok, great! let me try that and see what happens :) thank you [01:23] cheater: your plan sounds feasible [01:23] cheater: try to do a walk-through without writing any files to disk initially though! [01:23] thanks. how do you do that? [01:24] cheater: um! tell vmware everything is read-only maybe? Or just don't take any steps that'll write into the SSD, only into your vmdk file [01:24] oh right, yeah [01:24] well, i've checked writing to the ssd, and that works [01:25] i wrote a directory [01:25] (there was an issue where virtualbox couldn't do it) [01:25] cheater: yes, but I'm referring to writing a partition :) [01:25] cheater: if you made a mistake that could mess the partitioning up seriously [01:25] funnily enough virtualbox can access the efi partition, but not write to the linux partition. vmware can write to the linux partition, but not access the efi partition. i like this more [01:26] cheater: I'd highly recommend you save a backup of the current partition tables before doing anything [01:26] oh, no, i'm not repartitioning my disk drive at all [01:26] i'll not even be using sgdisk. i'll use cfdisk instead. i prefer it much more. [01:26] cheater: if you're working with GPT I'd recommend using the *gdisk versions (g = GPT ) [01:27] cheater: so cgdisk [01:27] cfdisk does support gpt though [01:27] cheater: not as well! [01:29] OK thanks for the warning [01:29] let me reboot and try this now :) [01:33] Hey. I have an wacom intuos s (small) wired version (non-bt) and the tablet works in 18.04 for the most part, but doesn't show in the device settings applet. Wouldn't be a thing but I have multiple monitors so without that I'm either doing xsetwacom shenanigans to map to one monitor [01:34] Any tricks for getting the control panel to recognize that it's a wacom? [01:36] Hello. I want to use VeraCrypt to encrypt a Samsung EVO SSD (enclosed in a USB3.0 case). Need to know how do I (or do I need to), run FSTRIM on it? Thanks ... [01:36] Ubuntu 18.0.2 is my Operating System [01:40] I used to be able to double-click an icon on the tray at the top to bring the application back, now it doesn't do that anymore. [01:40] How can I get that back? [01:40] Mr_Cyclops: I answered this for you yesterday 20 seconds after you left! [01:40] 20:36 FYI: Mr_Cyclops enquiry. for LUKS, in crypttab, supprting FSTRIM with the "discard" option. For cross-platform cryptsetup can support veracrypt [01:41] Why would GNOME remove a feature like that? [01:41] gnome exists to remove user features [01:42] I really hate gnome and wish there was something better. [01:42] * styledash laughs in KDE Plasma [01:42] Can you double click icons in the tray to bring them back to view in KDE plasma? [01:43] Right now that's all I want. [01:44] So, anyone have ideas how to stop tracker without crashing pc with a hammer? I'm frighteningly close to that point. [01:45] You might be interested in Tails OS [01:46] No im not. I wonder if everyone else is having this issue without realizing it. [01:47] TJ-, aha! :) Thanks buddy ... I am gonna try it out on an SSD with dummy data tomorrow [01:48] TJ-: are you sure the syntax is grub-install /dev/sdZ9? [01:48] TJ-, Sorry I missed the info yesterday, I realized I rebooted my computer, which took away the session I guess [01:49] leonardus, may I suggest Ubuntu Budgie. Ever since I put that on an year ago, never looked back at anything else. You could try it out on one of the virtualization softwares, like Virtual Box (which is free) [01:50] TJ-: i ask because this seems to use a different syntax and i'm not sure why. https://askubuntu.com/a/757130/854479 [01:50] Mr_Cyclops: So in ubuntu budgie you can double click icons in the task tray to bring the applications back? [01:50] tracker, this centos post says something about tracker-preferences .. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/481206/tracker-extract-high-cpu-usage [01:50] fastfresh ^ ^ [01:50] yes @leonardus .. single click actually [01:50] Looks like I'll be using Ubuntu Budgie. [01:50] cheater: yes, but of course you change sdZ9 for your actual device name [01:50] Ubuntu budgie takes its desktop environment from popular Solus OS [01:51] I'm on "a start job is running for "Raise network Interface"... [01:51] I remember a hotkey to get past this wait... [01:51] I can send you a screenshot if you like to get you a glimpse of how it looks [01:51] but can't seem to figure it out. Any clue? [01:51] cheater: if you're executing grub-install from somewhere other than the installed OS, then you will need additional arguments since grub cannot figure out many settings [01:52] TJ-: yes, i am executing it from the live dvd, not from the installed os. i can't boot the installed os without grub, which is why i'm making grub. [01:52] TJ-: so i use a syntax like there, where /mnt is my installed os on my ssd? [01:52] cheater: OK, time to explain a bit more then ... [01:52] go on! [01:52] thanks [01:53] OerHeks: thanks, will try [01:53] btw, the live dvd comes with grub-install, but it's from the grub2 package, not grub-pc. is that fine? [01:54] cheater: grub2 is grub-pc [01:54] its fine [01:54] ty [01:58] TJ-: in case you're typing something, i'll brb (need to go to the kitchen) [01:59] cheater: ... assuming your OS is in /dev/sdZ4 and it includes the /boot/ directory and content (as in, you're NOT using a separate partition/file-system just for /boot/) and your separate 'device' (the vmdk?) for GRUB is /dev/sdY ... so you do "sudo mkdir /target /mnt/boot; sudo mount /dev/sdz4 /target; sudo mount /dev/sdY /mnt/boot; sudo grub-install --verbose --root-directory=/target [01:59] --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ --recheck /dev/sdZ " ... and I'm not 100% sure I have all the options on grub-install you may need there [02:00] how do i mount /dev/sdY? how do i make it mountable? [02:00] thank you btw [02:01] cheater: although I think I missed steps there since /dev/sdY may need to be partitioned, and certainly needs a file-system format with "mkfs.ext4 ..." [02:01] cheater: I'm assuming you're inside the VMware guest and you've added a GRUB vmdk file as an additional device? [02:01] cheater: so you replace sdY with the actual device name that device has [02:02] yes, it's a vmdk [02:02] can you mount unformatted drives without a partition table, or do i need to give it a partition table and format it somehow? [02:03] i know how to mount a formatted partition, but not a whole drive [02:03] cheater: if it needs partitioning you can do "sudo sgdisk --new=:0:0:0 --typecode=0:EF02 /dev/sdY" which will assign all its space to a single partition [02:04] cheater: I'm struggling to figure out what actually you're expecting to put on the vmdk 'sdY' - is it grub's bootstrap + core.image, or does it also want the grub modules (in which case it needs a 2nd partition formatted with mkfs.ext4 ) [02:04] cheater: if the vmdk is supposed to be for 'all' of grub then we need to revise things a bit [02:04] TJ-: i'm not even at the stage where i'm trying to understand that yet [02:05] TJ-: the way i have it right now is there's one partition on it. the vmdk is /dev/sda, and the partition is /dev/sda1. but why did you tell me to mount the whole disk? is that possible? [02:05] cheater: "sgdisk --new=1:0+2MB --typecode=1:EF02 --new=2:0:0 --typecode=2:8300 /dev/sdY" then "mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdY2" [02:05] eeek, typo! [02:06] cheater: I missed a colon out. "sgdisk --new=1:0:+2MB --typecode=1:EF02 --new=2:0:0 --typecode=2:8300 /dev/sdY" then "mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdY2" [02:06] can you describe what this command does? i'd like to create it with cgdisk, which i trust more than using a cli [02:07] cheater: then you could do "mount /dev/sdY2 /mnt/boot; grub-install --root-directory=/target --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdY" [02:07] cheater: creates 2 partitions, first is bios_boot of 2MB, second is linux using remaining space [02:08] how much remaining space do i need? [02:08] cheater: for the 2nd partition that'll contain grub modules? no more than 15MB :) [02:08] thanks! why does the second partition contain linux? [02:09] cheater, "linux" is the typecode name for 8300 [02:09] cheater: do "sgdisk -L" to see the typecodes and their friendly names [02:09] ah, i thought you meant "bios_boot" was a label. it's the type, right? [02:09] correct [02:10] bios_boot is EF02 [02:10] great! [02:11] grub-install will read the files it needs from the existing OS mounted on /target and write the files to /mnt/boot as well as writing its core.image into /dev/sdY1 and its bootstrap into sector 0 of /dev/sdY [02:13] re - I ended up finding a solution that works for the intuos S (aka CTL-4100) https://github.com/linuxwacom/wacom-hid-descriptors/issues/41 [02:13] cheater: what you then need to take care of is generating a correct /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg for which you'll likely need to use a chroot of /target with /mnt/boot/ over-mounted on /target/boot :P [02:13] huh? [02:13] seems that ubuntu doesn't have the updated input db packaged. [02:14] cheater: grub-install only writes the executable parts of GRUB; it doesn't handle the config script /boot/grub/grub.cfg [02:14] cheater: and that is generated by update-grub running in the OS [02:15] oh... so... what do i do then? [02:15] sorry about being so clueless about this [02:16] cheater: so you'd need to do something like "mount --bind /mnt/boot /target/boot; for n in proc sys dev etc/resolv.conf; do mount --rbind /$n /target/$n; done" then "chroot /target" and "update-grub" to write it, then "exit" to leave the chroot, then "for n in etc/resolv.conf dev sys proc; do umount /target/$n; done; umount /target/boot" [02:16] I'm a little confused about how I should be using this to install a wifi receiver. https://github.com/mathew19/rtl8814AU [02:17] I believe I've used it in the past and that, when my kernel was updated, I lost whatever clever thing I did last time. [02:17] But I can't seem to reproduce. [02:17] mustmodify: did you use DKMS to install it? [02:17] let me try that, thank you [02:17] Hm... [02:17] #linux [02:18] mustmodify: it might be there but failed to build? "dkms status" might help [02:18] Well dkms isn't in my path, but let me dig a little more. [02:18] mustmodify: OK, if 'dkms' tool isn't installed then presumably you haven't used it [02:19] Well there was a catastrophic failure at some point in the past, and that may have been after I was using this. [02:19] mustmodify: do you want to install it again now? [02:19] Drat. So now I have no internet connection. [02:19] and I need to install something. [02:19] Ugh. [02:19] ok I'll have to work that out and I'll get back with more questions. Thanks. [02:19] if i write a windows iso to usb in ubuntu using the format dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M the resulting usb drive doesnt boot windows. is there something i need to do to make it bootable [02:20] devslash: that looks correct to me [02:20] devslash: did you 'sync' after doing the 'dd' to ensure the data was flushed from cache to the device? [02:20] no [02:21] devslash: also, you'll find 'dd' a lot faster with a larger blocksize; For USB2 I'd recommend bs=50M [02:21] & for usb3? [02:21] devslash: sky's the limit :) [02:22] devslash: "dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=100M status=progress conv=fdatasync,fsync" will write it fast, tell you what its doing, and sync data and metadata to the device [02:28] devslash: i dont think windows iso is bootable, if you want to use it with uefi you could create a fat32 partition and put the contents of the iso there [02:28] otherwise you'll need some sort of program that makes it bootable [02:29] maye rufus or something like that could help? [02:29] maybe [02:29] not bootable? really, did that change? [02:29] I recall helping a friend with Windows 7 I think it was, and that definitely bootable [02:29] i mean, why else is there win-usb [02:29] dunno [02:30] how would Windows install if the ISO/DVD wasn't bootable ? or are we referring to something else with "windows.iso" ? [02:30] I'm assuming we're talking about the windows *installer* ISO of course [02:32] win7 iso isnt efi and the computer has efi enabled [02:34] win7 x64 did [02:35] TJ-: i dont think its dd ready dunno about win7 but win10 for sure [02:35] (it doesnt have a bootloader in the mbr) [02:35] this program used to be a thing but its not maintained anymore [02:35] !winusb [02:35] Ubuntu does not have a recommended tool for preparing bootable Windows installation USBs. If you need one, consider using Microsoft's media creation tool from a Windows computer (see ##windows for support). If this is not an option, there are third-party unsupported tools like WoeUSB ( https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB , sudo snap install --edge woe-usb ) that might work. [02:39] EriC^^: that'd only affect BIOS mode if it has no bootstrap code, but I'm pretty sure (from having slipstreamed Windows installers) it does have the bootstrap code. [02:44] EriC^^: ahhh, the reason is, the Windows 10 ISO is a pure ISO9660-El-Torito boot mode, it isn't hybrid [02:44] anyone using multiple monitors and have night light enabled? [02:45] Win10_1903_V1_English_x64.iso.part: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CCCOMA_X64FRE_EN-US_DV9' (bootable) [02:45] kinghat: wha'ts night-light, the red-tinge adjustment? [02:45] ya [02:46] kinghat: I used to have something like that on 1 of my PCs, but don't recall its name now. I found it made things worse :) [02:49] I just killed my server with a stupid mv command and need help fixing [02:50] I was reading on how to mv all the subdirectories in a directory, and didn't read it close enough and ran "sudo mv /*/ ../../folder" [02:50] I realized after a few error messaged the mistake and ctrl^c, but it was too late [02:53] I need to mv /dev/ and /bin/ and /lib/ and /etc/ and /boot/ and /home/ back, but the mv command no longer works [02:54] any ideas? [03:07] Anyone? [03:08] !patience | qwebirc15353 [03:08] qwebirc15353: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [03:11] qwebirc15353: When you say server - leaves a lot out ... raid ? LVM ? EXT4 file system ? depending on what we know is how we can help. [03:13] i swear there was a usb writer that came with ubuntu(usb iso) but now that i have it installed i cant find one. [03:13] kinghat: the ubuntu usb creator? [03:14] ya [03:14] kinghat: its the icon, with a harddisk and ubuntu logo and green arrow [03:14] "startup disk creator" [03:14] ya i guess its not installed for me.. [03:14] kinghat: your ubuntu release? [03:15] fresh install of 18.04.2 [03:15] kinghat: ubuntu-desktop? [03:15] just used the store to install it now [03:15] ya [03:15] then it has to be there [03:17] i literally just had to install it [03:18] Bashing-om:Yes, LVM and Ext4. No raid. [03:18] I can run most commands by using the full path to the newly placed bin directory, but mv fails now due to permission [03:19] that's becasue etc was moved and I now get "sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?" [03:20] qwebirc15353: I can not assist with LVM ,, a lack on my part :( encryption ? But I would think one could mount the individual partitions from an extermal source and copy the data back - somehow. [03:20] so I can't move etc back withoud sudo/ID working, and I can't get sudo/ID working without moving etc back [03:21] Yeah, my searching is suggesting booting to a live USB and moving back that way [03:21] but it's a headless server, so I'm not sure what to do about that... except unplug it and take it somewhere with a monitor and keyboard [03:21] qwebirc15353: Yeah .. why you work from say a liveUSB. [03:22] I could configure the liveUSB from my laptop, but still not sure if it would boot once I plug it into my server... I guess I'll just need to try that before getting a monitor and keyboard hooked up [03:23] I was just hoping there was some way to could switch to root or something. I still have an SSH session open, but it isn't letting me establish new sessions [03:24] su root gets me "su: Cannot determine your user name." [03:29] is there a lightweight live distro you can recommend for live booting to do this task? [03:30] OK, I've installed dkms. [03:30] Now, how do I get the rest of this working? [03:30] https://github.com/mathew19/rtl8814AU [03:30] I tried `sudo make install` and that seemed to work, but then I restarted and no network connection. [03:34] mustmodify: Something like ` sudo dkms install rtl8814AU ' . Assumming that is the correct driver for your card. [03:37] ok, working on that and I got something surprising. "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 4.15.0-45-generic cannot be found. Please install ... or use --kernelsourcedir [03:37] So I'm assuming I must have it installed ... if that's what I'm using, right? [03:37] So I just likely need to point it to where the kernel lives... [03:40] mustmodify: Don't know much, but, ' dpkg -l | grep linux- 'show the needed package as installed ? === [b0b] is now known as b0b [03:56] I can't get past the network connections page of the LiveUSB "Network configuration timed out". I've tried DHCP and static [03:56] how long did you wait? [03:56] until the timeout message came up === mundus2018 is now known as mundus [04:10] what is LTS after 18? [04:10] kinghat: 20.04 [04:11] so 18.10, 19.04, 19.10, 20? [04:11] kinghat: .04 april .10 october [04:11] Frisky Feline [04:12] 20.04 april next year? [04:12] kinghat: yes [04:12] wasnt sure if you were talking about the 19 series.. [04:13] Eoan Ermine is such a bad name tho... [04:13] !lts | kinghat [04:13] kinghat: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [04:14] kinghat: 19.04/19.10 are just regular releases [04:25] can you make an app open on a specific desktop? [04:27] kinghat: check out devilspie [04:28] (and gdevilspie) [04:34] i need help creating a grub to boot a physical partition. i have a linux dual boot with windows using grub-efi. windows, linux, and efi partitions are all on the same drive (drive 0, /dev/sda; linux is on /dev/sda5). i also want to boot the linux partition as a guest under vmware in windows. vmware can't open the efi partition (which is in use by windows), so i need to make a new grub and put it on a ... [04:34] ... virtual drive (drive 1, /dev/sdb). I want to use a vmdk attached as a separate virtual scsi drive. i'd like to boot into a ubuntu live dvd, and use that to put a bios version of grub on /dev/sdb that will let me boot /dev/sda5. there is /boot on /dev/sda5, including the vmlinuz image. how do i do this? I spoke to TJ- earlier but I wasn't able to follow his advice, as several points were not clear ... [04:34] ... to me and some of the steps yielded errors. [04:49] ducasse: https://hastebin.com/cawugetuna.rb [04:54] kinghat: If ' dpkg -l gdevilspie ' shows installed ,, 1) I expect the g is for Graphic such that there is an icon ,, and 2) I would expect also that trminal command `gdevilspie` will also start the tool . [04:56] no packages found [04:57] !info gdevilspie bionic | kinghat [04:57] kinghat: Package gdevilspie does not exist in bionic [04:58] !info devilspie bionic | kinghat [04:58] kinghat: devilspie (source: devilspie): find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.23-2build1 (bionic), package size 45 kB, installed size 227 kB [05:04] cheater, i'm having trouble following your requirements there. but it sounds like you need to chroot and run grub-install ? [05:12] !ping [05:12] pong! === onohiroko is now known as sarashina_ [06:52] Hi all. I am trying to see which versions of gcc and cmake ubuntu has by browsing https://packages.ubuntu.com/ [06:52] Strangely enough, when I select any branch: xenial, bionic, cosmic - all are marked as dev. Which of them is stable branch? I am a bit lost. [06:55] !info | bs0d [06:55] 'bs0d' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed [06:55] !info gcc | bs0d [06:55] bs0d: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.176ubuntu2.2)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:7.4.0-1ubuntu2.2 (bionic), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB [06:56] Version 4:7.4.0 means gcc 7.4.0? [06:56] !info cmake [06:56] cmake (source: cmake): cross-platform, open-source make system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.2-1ubuntu2 (bionic), package size 3362 kB, installed size 18363 kB [06:57] looks good to me. I am looking for an OS for my container to run a recent C++ toolchain. If I may ask a stupid question - which distro is stable and which is development? [06:58] bs0d= LTS is the most "stable" and longest supported. non-LTS has the latest/greatest shiny stuff. not knowing the details of your use case, can't advise. personally: LTS only. [06:59] bs0d: the 4: is a 'epoch' purely for packaging purposes, so yes, the upstream version follows the : [07:00] bs0d: non-lts means you need to upgrade every 6-9 months, lts you can go for 5 years [07:01] thanks a lot. Now the list of distros makes sense :) xenial and bionic are LTS. cosmic, disco and eoan are non-LTS [07:02] exactomundo! [07:18] hi everybody, is there any security tools in ubuntu like netstat, tracert and so on, obviously i haven't got the tools as i tried in the shell [07:19] tuxi: try 'apt install inetutils-traceroute' - all these tools can be installed [07:20] ducasse thank you very much [07:20] hm does not work in the terminal as root, though :-( [07:22] tuxi: there is also 'apt install traceroute' - unsure what the difference between the two are, but look at the package descriptions [07:23] ah sorry it worked i made an error [07:33] Hi. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and in Software & Updates I have checked "Automatically check for updates:" = "Never" and "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" = "Never". Yet each time I restart it checks for updates. [07:33] I would like to make it check manually only. [07:34] I mean when I restart it checks and then opens a new dialog box "there are new updates". I don't want that, which is why I checked those settings in the dialogs. [07:34] hey TJ- [07:34] oh, i was in scrollback, TJ isn't here [07:34] cheater: TJ- is afk for now [07:34] yup [07:35] nblade42: disable the startup service or uninstall update-manager [07:45] lotuspsychje: How? I tried the command systemctl list-unit-files --type=service | grep -i update [07:45] But I didn't see anything interesting. [07:46] nblade42: type this in terminal: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop [07:46] nblade42: then check your startup services icon === rkta_ is now known as rkta [08:08] When i tried to boot kdeneon from usb on new laptop [08:08] i had to add 'acpi=off' to the grub on boot [08:08] what's acpi? [08:09] !acpi | Jonopoly [08:09] Jonopoly: to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI [08:09] ah a bios thing! okay [08:12] i've just got an asus (gaming) laptop the other day and i wanna put linux on it.. for development i want windows too because i need windows for gaming/VR [08:13] just for safety would it be advised to back up my entire windows? as it contains some ASUS files 'controlling fan' etc.. before proceeding to dual boot? [08:14] Jonopoly: its always adviced to make a backup of your data [08:14] lotuspsychje: would that backup include windows etc..? 'bootloader' [08:14] just worried i'd get stuck with grub if i had to revert [08:15] Jonopoly: to backup windows you can sk in ##windows [08:15] ask [08:16] !uefi | Jonopoly [08:16] Jonopoly: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [08:16] !dualboot | Jonopoly [08:16] Jonopoly: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [08:16] !neon | Jonopoly [08:16] Jonopoly: KDE Neon ( http://neon.kde.org/ ) is a KDE project to package the latest stable and development versions of KDE software on top of an Ubuntu base. As it is not an official Ubuntu or Kubuntu project, please use #kde-neon for discussion and support. [08:16] wow thanks [08:19] hello. how to "dmesg -T" but also showing last 1000 lines? it shows not enough by default. or how to check the log with human readable timestamps otherwise etc [08:21] ansyeb, dmesg -T|tail -n1000 [08:28] lotuspsychje: What do you mean by the startup service icon? [08:28] nblade42: are you on ubuntu-desktop with gnome? [08:33] Yes, it is standard Ubuntu 18.04. With the standard GNOME desktop. [08:33] nblade42: ok, then you have a startup applications icon (purple with greeg arrow to the left) [08:33] green [08:35] Yes I checked that list and it does not mention anything about updates. [08:36] nblade42: did you enter that command i gave you? [08:38] nblade42: i see the service here, check for updates [08:58] lotuspsychje: I see in /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop it is set with property NoDisplay=true. I changed that to NoDisplay=false as you suggested (but not for all .desktop files). And now I can see it in startup applications list and can uncheck it. [08:58] +1 nblade42 [09:03] Thanks it is better now. === EriC^^ is now known as ME === ME is now known as EriC^^ [09:11] anyone know where I can get a very low res tux penguin icon? [09:11] eg one for a brand on a directory? === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [10:36] Hi! I want to install ubuntu desktop on mdadm raid0, i want to raid 3 ssds together into one. [10:36] I managed to install ubuntu on it, but cannot get grub to work. My setup uses EFI. [10:37] halvors: do you have a fat32 partition with grub on it? [10:37] Yeah that is what i am trying to do. [10:39] But then metadata needs to be on the end right? [10:40]